Comments by "Randy Schissler" (@randyschissler5791) on "Why People Think the World is Flat" video.
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@larebear1902 You have it all backwards. Most of the pressure is at the bottom (at the earth's surface), so as the elevation rises towards the start of the vacuum, it becomes less and less, until the pressure gradient eventually makes it negligible. Mountain climbers ascending Mt. Everest confirm this. The higher in elevation you go, the thinner the atmosphere becomes, less air particles means less pressure, and when the pressure gradient reaches the vacuum level, even the vacuum has air particles. It becomes such a mix at that point, that there is no differential between air and vacuum. Keep moving away from the earth, and the vacuum counts fewer and fewer air particles in it, that it eventually becomes 99.99% vacuum. Even the moon has a few air particles moving around.
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You are talking about Reference Publication 1207, that flat earthers claim is saying that the earth is flat and non rotating, when it doesn't say that at all. It’s a reference document for a computer aircraft flight simulation written in 1988. In order for the computer to crunch the numbers more quickly, they left out all factors which had a negligible effect. Such as the curve and rotation of the earth. If the earth was in fact flat and non-rotating, they wouldn’t have had to make note of this. But it is in fact spherical and rotating, so they included the fact that the computer program did not take these factors into account, so that everyone was on the same page. The equations that have been derived in the report are based on the assumption of a “rigid aircraft of constant mass,” which doesn't happen in reality, as aircraft burn fuel while they fly and change mass. Just like “flying in a stationary atmosphere,” which doesn’t happen in reality, as there is always wind. So, the equations in the report are based on the assumption of an ideal craft that burns no fuel, flying in air that has no wind, over a non-rotating flat earth.
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Ridiculous. Anyway, here is a partial list of some of the best. Not CGI, Photoshopped, or composite. All shot on celluloid film.
AS17-148-22725 to 22751, that's 26 photos.
AS08-14-2383 to 2394, that's 12 photos.
\AS08-15-2535 to 2580, that's 46 photos.
AS08-16-2588 to 2609, that's 22 photos.
AS11-44-6668 to AS11-44-6696, that's 29 photos.
AS11-36-5293 to 5309, that's 17 photos.
AS11-36-5317 to 5381, that's 65 photos.
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@rayburnyarborough4695 There isn't anything Biblical about flat earth. There isn't one verse in the Bible that says the earth is flat. In fact, not one real Christian church supports or promotes a flat earth and dome. Out of the thousands of Christians I have met, only two were flat earthers. However, they believed in every cockamamie conspiracy theory there is, so it was no wonder to know that they were flat earthers too.
It's funny how you mention the Gleason map, which is a projection of the earth as globe. Flat earthers can't even come up with a map of their own, instead using a globe based map. That surely doesn't say much positive about flat earthers, right?
Go to the beach someday, over an open ocean. Watch the sun thoughout the course of a day, including sunset. That alone, proves the earth a rotating globe, and not flat.
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@Globeisahoax
I've seen the flat earth theory of the sun going around in a big circle.There are a few flaws with it though. Number one, is that the sun would not maintain the same size throughout a day. The sun would be closer, then farther away, which would cause it to get bigger, then smaller. But of course, in observable reality, that doesn't happen, as the sun is always the same size thoughout the course of a day. Another problem is that the sun going in a big circle on your flat earth, would always be visible, whether night or day. I know, you will liken it to a flashlight, just lighting a small portion of the earth at a time, but a flashlight can be seen at great distance, even in darkness. Yet, in observable reality, we don't see that tiny pinpoint of light from the sun in darkness, do we? The sun we see everyday, works the way we see it, only if the earth is a globe. Impossible on a flat earth.
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@fanbutton5360 You're such a liar. Notice how the sun maintains the same size throughout the day, whether it be sunrise, mid day overhead, or sunset, when it rather abruptly slides down below the horizon. Even at that point of sunset, still keeping the same size as it was earlier in the day. That alone, proves the earth a rotating globe, and not flat. On the usual flat earth model of the sun going around in a circle above the earth, the sun would have to start out as a tiny little dot since it would be very far away, gradually getting larger and larger as it came closer to you, until its largest size of the day at mid day. Then, it would have to get smaller and smaller as it moved away from you, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light at sunset. Yet, that doesn't happen with the sun we see in reality. The sun in reality, doesn't get smaller and smaller. Doesn't get so small, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light, as it moves away from you. Instead, in reality, it maintains the same size throughout the course of a day, thus, the earth is a rotating globe orbiting the sun.
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@RaptureHermit Too bad you are deceived by flat earther priests, and can't interpret the Bible correctly. Firmament means the expanse of the universe, the heavens, the sky, and sometimes our atmosphere, but never a flat earth and impenetrable dome. The Bible is filled with metaphors, hyperbole, similes, poetic verse, figures of speech and parables. Why don't you know that? The "earth has a foundation" is a reference to God is in control, and holds the power over the earth. There isn't one real Christian church that supports or promotes a flat earth and dome.
Also, rockets curve because they are going into orbit. Talking about the Bermuda Triangle just shows your silly ignorance about the real world. 1000mph at the equator shows how you can't comprehend how huge the earth is. That's still only one rotation in a 24 hour period. The hour hand on an analog clock moves twice as fast as the earth rotates.
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@nimblejack Did you not see my post above? Here, I'll repeat it.
Because you have no idea what a flight model is. NASA Reference Publication 1207: Derivation and Definition of a Linear Aircraft Model, is a prime example of how flat earthers like yourself, cherry pick a couple words to try and say that NASA and the military state that the earth is flat and motionless. This document and others like it, don't say that at all. 1207 is a reference document for a computer aircraft flight simulation model written in 1988. In order for the computer to crunch the numbers more efficiently, they left out all factors which had a negligible effect on the model. Such as the curvature and rotation of the earth. If the earth was in fact flat and non-rotating, they wouldn’t have had to make note of this. But it is in fact spherical and rotating, so they included the fact that the computer program did not take these factors into account, because they are insignificant to the model. Notice how the document also states that the equations that have been derived based on the assumption of a “rigid aircraft of constant mass.” Which doesn't happen in reality either, as aircraft have flaps and ailerons, and burn fuel while they fly thus changing mass. Just like “flying in a stationary atmosphere,” which doesn’t happen in reality, as there is always wind. So, the equations are based on the assumption of an ideal craft that has no flaps to change position, burns no fuel, flying in air that has no wind, over a non-rotating flat earth.
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@vahagnmelikyan2906 If you looked at the sun all day long, why didn't you notice that it doesn't change size at all during the day, thus proving the earth is a rotating globe and not flat.
To prove the earth a globe, all you have to do is observe the sun, throughout the course of a day. Notice how it maintains the same size throughout the day, whether it be sunrise, mid day overhead, or sunset, when it rather abruptly slides down below the horizon. Even at that point of sunset, still keeping the same size as it was earlier in the day. That alone, proves the earth a rotating globe. On your flat earth model of the sun going around in a circle, the sun would have to start out as a tiny little dot since it would be very far away, gradually getting larger and larger as it came closer to you, until its largest size of the day at mid day. Then, it would have to get smaller and smaller as it moved away from you, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light at sunset. Even in darkness, that tiny little pinpoint of light, would still be visible. Yet, that doesn't happen with the sun we see in reality. The sun in reality, doesn't get smaller and smaller. Doesn't get so small, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light, as it moves away from you. Instead, in reality, it maintains the same size throughout the course of a day, even at sunset. Thus, the earth is a rotating globe.
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@REALStinkyCash To prove the earth a rotating globe, all you have to do is observe the sun, throughout the course of a day, preferably over an open ocean on a clear day. Notice how it maintains the same size throughout the day, whether it be sunrise, mid day overhead, or sunset, when it rather abruptly slides down below the horizon. Even at that point of sunset, still keeping the same size as it was earlier in the day. That alone, proves the earth a rotating globe. On your flat earth model of a local sun going around in a circle, the sun would have to start out as a tiny little dot since it would be very far away, gradually getting larger and larger as it came closer to you, until its largest size of the day at mid day. Then, it would have to get smaller and smaller as it moved away from you, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light at sunset. Even in darkness, that tiny little pinpoint of light, would still be visible. Yet, that doesn't happen with the sun we see in reality. The sun in reality, doesn't get smaller and smaller. Doesn't get so small, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light, as it moves away from you. Instead, in reality, it maintains the same size throughout the course of a day, even at sunset. Thus, the earth is a rotating globe.
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"NASA's Mr. Blue Marble, Robert Simmons says all those images you see of earth are fake"
Totally false. The composite images of Blue Marble are from 2002 and later. The Original Blue Marble was from 1972 and not composite. Of course, anyone who knows anything about photography, knows that composite images are made from real images. Anyway, here is a partial list of some of the best non fake images of the earth. Not CGI, Photoshopped, or composite. All shot on celluloid film.
AS17-148-22725 to 22751, that's 26 photos.
AS08-14-2383 to 2394, that's 12 photos.
AS08-15-2535 to 2580, that's 46 photos.
AS08-16-2588 to 2609, that's 22 photos.
AS11-44-6668 to AS11-44-6696, that's 289 photos
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"Not sideways, you didn't fall up onto the ground like you would have to in Antarctica. "
It's called gravity. But I know, as a flat earther, you are required under penalty of death or whatever, to believe that gravity is fake. On a globe earth with gravity, there is no sideways or upside down. Everywhere you are standing, is right side up. Mass creates gravity, and the earth is very, very, very big, so it has a lot of mass. In fact, the earth is so big that you have this false notion that if it looks flat, it must be flat. Right? It looks flat because the curvature is so miniscule that your eyes can't perceive the extremely slight curvature. Also, you seem befuddled by "1000mph spinning ball." Another factor to how you can't comprehend how huge the earth really is. The earth makes one measly rotation in a 24 hour period. That's as slow as can be, hardly moving, though it is.
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@1OnlyOneOnlyOne1 In other words, you never paid attention while watching the sun.
To prove the earth a globe, all you have to do is observe the sun, throughout the course of a day. Notice how it maintains the same size throughout the day, whether it be sunrise, mid day overhead, or sunset, when it rather abruptly slides down below the horizon. Even at that point of sunset, still keeping the same size as it was earlier in the day. That alone, proves the earth a rotating globe. On your flat earth model of the sun going around in a circle, the sun would have to start out as a tiny little dot since it would be very far away, gradually getting larger and larger as it came closer to you, until its largest size of the day at mid day. Then, it would have to get smaller and smaller as it moved away from you, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light at sunset. Even in darkness, that tiny little pinpoint of light, would still be visible. Yet, that doesn't happen with the sun we see in reality. The sun in reality, doesn't get smaller and smaller. Doesn't get so small, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light, as it moves away from you. Instead, in reality, it maintains the same size throughout the course of a day, even at sunset. Thus, the earth is a rotating globe.
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"Tell me at what scale does"
At a very large scale that you can't seem to understand. No flat earthers can. Flat earthers can't comprehend how huge the earth really is, in regards to human activity. They think if something look flat, it must be flat, thought it isn't. Measuring curvature on small bodies of water is worthless, because the curvature is so miniscule, that it is insignificant.
Also, why would you use the term "spinning?" The earth makes one measly rotation in a 24 hour period. That's as slow as can be, slower than the hour hand of an analog clock, slower than watching paint dry, while flat earthers love to use the term spinning. Why is that?
Here is something to think about, in terms of scale of how huge the earth is. If the earth was the size of a basketball, the depth of the billions of tons of water would only be a quarter of a millimeter in thickness. Now, a millimeter isn't much, but imagine only a quarter of a millimeter, in thickness of all that water! Wow, that doesn't seem like so much water for gravity to hold to the earth, does it?
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@super_ficial
"On a spinning globe the transition from day to night would be instantaneous."
Ridiculous. You talk about spinning, when the earth only makes one measly rotation in a 24 hour period. Also, you talk about the sunlight becoming smaller, when you should be talking about the sun becoming smaller. On flat earth, with the sun itself moving away from you, it would have to get smaller, but it doesn't in reality. Observe the sun, throughout the course of a day, preferably over an open ocean. Notice how it maintains the same size throughout the day, whether it be sunrise, mid day overhead, or sunset, when it gradually slides down below the horizon. Even at that point of sunset, still keeping the same size as it was earlier in the day. That alone, proves the earth a rotating globe, and not flat. On the usual flat earth model of the sun going around in a circle above the earth, the sun would have to start out as a tiny little dot since it would be very far away, gradually getting larger and larger as it came closer to you, until its largest size of the day at mid day. Then, it would have to get smaller and smaller as it moved away from you, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light at sunset. Yet, that doesn't happen with the sun we see in reality. The sun in reality, doesn't get smaller and smaller. Doesn't get so small, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light, as it moves away from you. Instead, in reality, it maintains the same size throughout the course of a day, thus, the earth is a rotating globe orbiting the sun.
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@yestervue4697 I've hardly said a word. You're the one blathering on and on about nothing, except for your little pity party.
But, if by chance you want to know one thing that proves a globe earth, all you have to do is look at sunrise and sunset. On our globe earth, the earth makes one rotation in a day. It is so slow in making that one measly rotation in a 24 hour period, that we don't even feel the earth moving. When the earth rotates, as we're sitting at whatever place we are, we can see the sun come up from the horizon, then after a few hours appear overhead, only to eventually disappear over the opposite horizon and plunge wherever we are, into total darkness.
Now, since we're all in different locations on earth, the times we see the sun at sunrise, at it's peak, or sunset, will be at different times than in other locations. Thus, the reason why we have timezones, and this all works perfectly on our globe earth.
However, on a flat earth, all that I have laid out above, is impossible. On a globe earth, while it is daylight in China, it is nighttime in New York City. On a flat earth, this is impossible. On a flat earth, the sun would have to be visible everywhere on flat earth at the same absolute time, and at night, everywhere on flat earth would be in darkness at the same absolute time. Yet it's not, so the earth can only be a globe.
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@faithismespeaks6848 "So you're saying trillions of tons of curved water are being held down"
Here is something to think about. If the earth was the size of a basketball, the depth of the trillions of tons of water would only be a quarter of a millimeter in thickness. Now, a millimeter isn't much, but imagine only a quarter of a millimeter, in thickness of all that water! Wow, that doesn't seem like so much water for gravity to hold to the earth, does it?
One of the biggest problems flat earthers have, is they can't comprehend how huge the earth really is. That's why they think water looks flat, though it isn't. Their scale of reference of what their eyes can see, is extremely small, compared to the hugeness of the earth, and they can't understand that. We truly are like ants, on a great big world.
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@aquavideoman All you have to do, to prove the earth a globe, is observe the sun, throughout the course of a day, preferably over an open ocean. Notice how it maintains the same size throughout the day, whether it be sunrise, mid day overhead, or sunset, when it rather abruptly slides down below the horizon. Even at that point of sunset, still keeping the same size as it was earlier in the day. That alone, proves the earth a rotating globe, and not flat. On the usual flat earth model of the much smaller and much closer sun, going around in a circle above the earth, the sun would have to start out as a tiny little dot, since it would be very far away, gradually getting larger and larger as it came closer to you, until its largest size of the day at mid day. Then, it would have to get smaller and smaller as it moved away from you, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light at sunset. Yet, that doesn't happen with the sun we see in reality. The sun in reality, doesn't get smaller and smaller. Doesn't get so small, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light, as it moves away from you. Instead, in reality, it maintains the same size throughout the course of a day, thus, the earth is a rotating globe orbiting the sun.
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@ELZI_the_Light "people that believe the sun goes up and down.. you guys are tripping"
If your flat earth was true, then the sun would have to get smaller and smaller and smaller, until it was eventually a tiny pinpoint of light. Yet, that isn't what we see in reality, is it? In reality, we see that the sun maintains the same size throughout the course of a day, whether it be sunrise, mid day overhead, or sunset, before rather abruptly going over the horizon. You should try watching a sunset someday, on a clear day over the ocean.
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Here is a partial list of photos of the earth from space. Not CGI, Photoshopped, or composite. All shot on celluloid film.
AS08-13-2369 to 88, that's 19 photos.
AS08-14-2507 to 80, that's 73 photos.
AS08-16-2619 to 58, that's 39 photos.
AS08-16-2587 to 609, that's 22 photos.
AS11-40-5923 to 24, that’s 2 photos.
AS14-64-9189 to 97, that’s 9 photos.
AS17-134-20383 to 84, that’s 2 photos.
AS17-134-20387, that’s 1 photo.
AS17-137-20910-11, that’s 2 photos.
AS17-162-24047 and 48, that's two photos.
AS17-162-24066 to 73, that's seven photos.
AS17-148-22669 to 71, that's three photos.
AS17-148-22679 to 86, that's seven photos.
AS17-148-22699 to 702, that's three photos.
AS17-148-22717 to 51, that's 34 photos.
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The earth makes one measly rotation in a 24 hour period. I'd hardly call that spinning. The hour hand on an analog clock moves twice as fast as the earth rotates. If you were on the moon, looking back at the earth, you would might not think it was moving at all, though it is. Also, realize that if the earth was the size of a basketball, the vast deep oceans would be less than a quarter of a millimeter in thickness. Now, a millimeter isn't much, so imagine only a quarter of a millimeter of water on a basketball sized earth. In that comparison, it doesn't seem like gravity would have to work that hard to keep the water to the earth. The biggest problem you and most flat earthers have, is that you can't conceptualize how huge the earth really is. With the earth so large, the curvature is miniscule and water looks flat, though it's not.
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@Brian-di2yd Since you want to talk about the sun now, it's more proof of a rotating globe earth. Notice how it maintains the same size at sunrise, still the same size at mid day overhead, and still the same size at sunset, as it appears to, rather abruptly, slide down below the horizon. This would be impossible on a flat earth, can only happen if the earth was a rotating globe.
I know your flat earth model, where you think the sun moves around the flat earth in a circle. If that was true, your view of the sun would start out in the morning as a tiny little dot, that gradually gets bigger and bigger as it moves closer to you, reaching its maximum size at mid day overhead, then gradually getting smaller and smaller in the evening, shrinking even more until just a tiny dot as it moves away from you. A tiny dot that would always be visible with magnification, never actually set, as it circles back around again. Yet, in reality, none of this happens, proof that we are not on a flat earth.
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"Why are there NASA documents in which they're doing tests on a flat and motionless plane?"
You think Reference Publication 1207 is saying that the earth is flat and non rotating, when it doesn't say that at all. It’s a reference document for a computer aircraft flight simulation written in 1988. In order for the computer to crunch the numbers more quickly, they left out all factors which had a negligible effect. Such as the curve and rotation of the earth. If the earth was in fact flat and non-rotating, they wouldn’t have had to make note of this. But it is in fact spherical and rotating, so they included the fact that the computer program did not take these factors into account, so that everyone was on the same page. The equations that have been derived in the report are based on the assumption of a “rigid aircraft of constant mass,” which doesn't happen in reality, as aircraft burn fuel while they fly and change mass. Just like “flying in a stationary atmosphere,” which doesn’t happen in reality, as there is always wind. So, the equations in the report are based on the assumption of an ideal craft that burns no fuel, flying in air that has no wind, over a non-rotating flat earth.
"Why'd Buzz Aldrin say they never went to the moon? "
He never said that. Notice the question Zoey asks: "Why has nobody been to the moon in such a long time?" Long time means from the last time since going to the moon. Buzz answers appropriately, "We didn't go there" during the long time since the last time going to the moon. Please pay close attention to what he said immediately after, as it's very telling as to why no one has gone back to the moon since the last time going to the moon. It's not that hard to understand. Also, if you watch the first part of the interview he talks about going to the moon. And at the end of the interview, he talks about going to the moon.
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@sandmanbeaches565 As usual, Bart Sibrel lied! Why haven't you figured out yet that Sibrel is a lying con? Sibrel’s shortened version of the video is recut out of sequence: the unedited footage simply shows the astronauts preparing for TV transmissions and testing the camera settings. This is evident by listening to their communications in full, as available in the Apollo Flight Journal (Day 1, part 4: Navigation and Housekeeping and Day 2, part 2: TV Transmission), instead of taking selected quotes out of context. These communications report that the pictures show the eastern Pacific Ocean, the west coast of North America and the southern coast of South America (north is down and to the left).
Moreover, the camera trick alleged by Sibrel wouldn’t have worked even if the astronauts had tried it. If the Apollo spacecraft had been in low orbit around the Earth, with its TV camera peeking through a circular mask at a small portion of the planet below, the footage would have shown ever-changing clouds and parts of the planet rolling by as the spacecraft rapidly circled the globe. The uncut, less grainy version of the video presented by Sibrel instead shows exactly the same unchanging cloud patterns for as much as fifteen minutes.
In order to provide 1969 TV viewers back on earth with the best possible view of earth from space, it was necessary to eliminate the glaring reflected light and direct sunlight that was streaming into the spacecraft and interfering with the shot. The official Apollo 11 mission documentation from 1969 contains astronaut Michael Collins' own discussion of these lighting problems and the difficulties he experienced with the window shades in the Apollo spacecraft. Unfortunately for Bart Sibrel, he is obviously unaware of astronaut Mike Collins documented statements, or just lied as he does. The astronauts shuttered most of the capsule windows with special shades that blocked most of the glaring direct and reflected sunlight coming off of the bright, shiny Lunar Module which was docked in close proximity to the location of the windows.
What one actually witnesses in the video are not cutouts or templates passing between the earth and the TV camera, it is the communications headset wiring, arms and body of astronaut Michael Collins as he reaches over to remove the shade blocking one of the spacecraft windows. As soon as the shade is removed, the video shows the cabin immediately illuminating with glaring reflected sunlight. We also see that Collins is the one opening the window shade and that another member of the crew is obviously handling the camera from the vicinity of the foot area of the crew couches. Sibrel expressed the impression that the hand-held Westinghouse TV camera was hard-mounted to the face of the cabin window, which was totally false.
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@RCTurbo79 All you have to do is go outside some day, and observe the course of the sun. Preferably, at the ocean on a clear day. Observe the sun at sunrise, mid day overhead, and sunset. Pay close attention at how the sun maintains the same size throughout the day, whether it be sunrise, overhead at mid day, and sunset, before rather abruptly going over the horizon. Remember, the sun stays the same size throughout the day, that is the key thing to think about.
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"Do you know all flight models for all air forces are based on a flat stationary earth."
Because you have no idea what a flight model is. NASA Reference Publication 1207: Derivation and Definition of a Linear Aircraft Model, is a prime example of how flat earthers like yourself, cherry pick a couple words to try and say that NASA and the military state that the earth is flat and motionless. This document and others like it, don't say that at all. 1207 is a reference document for a computer aircraft flight simulation model written in 1988. In order for the computer to crunch the numbers more efficiently, they left out all factors which had a negligible effect on the model. Such as the curvature and rotation of the earth. If the earth was in fact flat and non-rotating, they wouldn’t have had to make note of this. But it is in fact spherical and rotating, so they included the fact that the computer program did not take these factors into account, because they are insignificant to the model. Notice how the document also states that the equations that have been derived based on the assumption of a “rigid aircraft of constant mass.” Which doesn't happen in reality either, as aircraft have flaps and ailerons, and burn fuel while they fly thus changing mass. Just like “flying in a stationary atmosphere,” which doesn’t happen in reality, as there is always wind. So, the equations are based on the assumption of an ideal craft that has no flaps to change position, burns no fuel, flying in air that has no wind, over a non-rotating flat earth.
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@libertypltd4198 That's ridiculous. You've never seen a sunset over an open ocean on a clear day, obviously. I've seen your phony videos, they are nothing like we see in the real world. Have you ever noticed how your videos never show the sun in darkness?
To prove the earth a globe, all you have to do is observe the sun, throughout the course of a day. Notice how it maintains the same size throughout the day, whether it be sunrise, mid day overhead, or sunset, when it rather abruptly slides down below the horizon. Even at that point of sunset, still keeping the same size as it was earlier in the day. That alone, proves the earth a rotating globe. On your flat earth model of the sun going around in a circle, the sun would have to start out as a tiny little dot since it would be very far away, gradually getting larger and larger as it came closer to you, until its largest size of the day at mid day. Then, it would have to get smaller and smaller as it moved away from you, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light at sunset. Yet, that doesn't happen with the sun we see in reality. The sun in reality, doesn't get smaller and smaller. Doesn't get so small, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light, as it moves away from you. Instead, in reality, it maintains the same size throughout the course of a day.
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@isaaclaumbach2522 When the Apollo program was cut, all the funding for future moon missions stopped. All the infrastructure, engineers, spare parts, assembly jigs, etc., weren't needed anymore, so they went away as well. The Saturn V and Apollo spacecraft were one use only, so they didn't build anymore of them. All that is the technology that's being referred to, that was lost, destroyed, or whatever word you want to use. It cost an incredible amount of money to go to the moon, so it's not that easy to start things up again.
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@jaydawg7200 Because all you have to do, to prove the earth a globe, is observe the sun, throughout the course of a day, preferably over an open ocean. Notice how it maintains the same size throughout the day, whether it be sunrise, mid day overhead, or sunset, when it rather abruptly slides down below the horizon. Even at that point of sunset, still keeping the same size as it was earlier in the day. That alone, proves the earth a rotating globe, and not flat. On the usual flat earth model of the sun going around in a circle above the earth, the sun would have to start out as a tiny little dot since it would be very far away, gradually getting larger and larger as it came closer to you, until its largest size of the day at mid day. Then, it would have to get smaller and smaller as it moved away from you, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light at sunset. Yet, that doesn't happen with the sun we see in reality. The sun in reality, doesn't get smaller and smaller. Doesn't get so small, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light, as it moves away from you. Instead, in reality, it maintains the same size throughout the course of a day, thus, the earth is a rotating globe orbiting the sun.
Also, the reasons why you don't feel anything is because one, the earth is hardly moving. One measly rotation in a 24 hour period. The hour hand of an analog clock moves twice as fast as the earth rotates. Try standing, and taking 24 hours to complete one revolution in the same spot. You won't feel a thing from the movement, and will likely fall asleep before the 24 hours are up.
Also, second reason, the earth is rotating at a constant speed. You only feel acceleration not a constant speed. An airplane travels at 500mph constant cruising speed, but you won't feel it, only the speed change, ascension, descension, and air turbulence.
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@bigtalk2598 "How can you not see that you are being deceived and that the earth is flat?"
Because all you have to do, to prove the earth a globe, is observe the sun, throughout the course of a day, preferably over an open ocean. Notice how it maintains the same size throughout the day, whether it be sunrise, mid day overhead, or sunset, when it rather abruptly slides down below the horizon. Even at that point of sunset, still keeping the same size as it was earlier in the day. That alone, proves the earth a rotating globe, and not flat. On the usual flat earth model of the sun going around in a circle above the earth, the sun would have to start out as a tiny little dot since it would be very far away, gradually getting larger and larger as it came closer to you, until its largest size of the day at mid day. Then, it would have to get smaller and smaller as it moved away from you, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light at sunset. Yet, that doesn't happen with the sun we see in reality. The sun in reality, doesn't get smaller and smaller. Doesn't get so small, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light, as it moves away from you. Instead, in reality, it maintains the same size throughout the course of a day, thus, the earth is a rotating globe orbiting the sun.
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@christianpulido8360 "The Sun disappears from your line of sight."
That's nonsense. You've never seen any sunset then. All you have to do, to prove the earth a globe, is observe the sun, throughout the course of a day, preferably over an open ocean. Notice how it maintains the same size throughout the day, whether it be sunrise, mid day overhead, or sunset, when it rather abruptly slides down below the horizon. Even at that point of sunset, still keeping the same size as it was earlier in the day. That alone, proves the earth a rotating globe, and not flat. On the usual flat earth model of the sun going around in a circle above the earth, the sun would have to start out as a tiny little dot since it would be very far away, gradually getting larger and larger as it came closer to you, until its largest size of the day at mid day. Then, it would have to get smaller and smaller as it moved away from you, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light at sunset. Yet, that doesn't happen with the sun we see in reality. The sun in reality, doesn't get smaller and smaller. Doesn't get so small, until just a tiny little pinpoint of light, as it moves away from you. Instead, in reality, it maintains the same size throughout the course of a day, thus, the earth is a rotating globe orbiting the sun.
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@yestervue4697 Pilots on planes don't fly by straight lines, they fly by altitude. That's why they don't have to "dip" flying over the globe.
I'd still like to get back to sunrise and sunset, where you think the sun just goes out of the eye's range, and that's what you call sunset. Yet, like I said, on your flat earth, the sun would have to get smaller, and smaller, and smaller, to where it was just a tiny, tiny pinpoint of light in the sky. But that doesn't happen, doe it? The sun maintains the same size at sunrise, mid day, and sunset, almost no change in size through the whole course of a day.
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The earth makes one measly rotation in a 24 hour period. I'd hardly call that spinning. The hour hand on an analog clock moves twice as fast as the earth rotates. If you were on the moon, looking back at the earth, you would might not think it was moving at all, though it is. Also, realize that if the earth was the size of a basketball, the vast deep oceans would be less than a quarter of a millimeter in thickness. Now, a millimeter isn't much, so imagine only a quarter of a millimeter of water on a basketball sized earth. In that comparison, it doesn't seem like gravity would have to work that hard to keep the water to the earth. The biggest problem you and most flat earthers have, is that you can't conceptualize how huge the earth really is. With the earth so large, the curvature is miniscule and water looks flat, though it's not.
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