Comments by "Kristopher Driver" (@paxdriver) on "Ben Shapiro vs Destiny Debate: Politics, Jan 6, Israel, Ukraine u0026 Wokeism | Lex Fridman Podcast #410" video.

  1. My bias is much closer to destiny, but I'm not a fan of either unilaterally. That said, this is precisely the kind of conversation and style I absolute love listening to because it makes me think and feel at the same time. This one of my favourite episodes even though it aggregates me tremendously listening to them lol. This is important, please do more of this, you both did very well articulating and keeping pace. Ben often tries to inundate opposition with uzi fire like Jim Jordan school of pseudo rhetoric. Destiny made him actually argue coherently by challenging him on the same level, and Lex kept things from getting too scattered without getting in the way. This is a fantastic conversation. Thank you all.
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  2. 1:44:56 don't forget Jeff sessions, and bill Barr, and mark meadows's intern who testified, and FBI chair Jim Comey? ... The list of people Trump extorted with his positions if authority range from sexual assault (which à judge agreed with, btw, not slander), all the way to fraud and abetting insurrection. The perfect call quid pro quo, the Georgia call, the private Putin meetings and Kim Jun ung love letters? The bathroom to secret files, the tax fraud, the non-payment to contractors, lawyers and fixes - which part of this wouldn't worry a competent and informed voter? You'll sacrifice your life to defend the national core values of democracy and commerce, but extortion by the commander in chief doesn't even phase you, Ben? That kind if incoherence is way beneath him but he's doubling down on an embarrassing narrative he knows full well is bs. He's either ignorant, dumb or corrupted. There isn't a subjective way to read the facts in this case, it's not at all nebulous.
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  3. 1:04:01 - no Destiny, people will say they support Hamas because their lives have been ruined by oppression, not because they want to actively submit their children to commit and / or succumb to violent murder over politics. No parent wants that for their kids, but all angry humans will say they support the pain of their oppressors. Like you said 5 mins earlier, you can't look at regional political contention through the lens of American comforts. Watching murder from afar is not the same as volunteering your family to condone guerilla warfare in your home neighborhood. That's insane. Go travel and meet people if you believe humans anywhere on earth are cool with their kids going to war. Even when culture demands a warrior spirit and the parents say the right things, that's a coping mechanism for their sorrow. I can't imagine a human who is true to themselves being truly endorsing sending their kids to war and risking their lives, homes, and futures for racism or politics unless they are a minority of mentally disabled adults. Our genes are not wired to sacrifice our families gleefully. It's just not biologically possible for that to be the case so you're both wrong. War is not inevitable or genuinely condoned by the people of Palestine or Israel, it's manipulated, ignorant, racist and/or malevolent politics that make this terrorism-turned-genocide happen. Words have meanings, looks up the definitions.
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  4. 1:29:12 naaailed it! Mic drop minute lol
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  5. 2:02:56 then Ben nails academic accreditation to the floor lol I'll stop spamming the comments now, great great episode, this was awesome. Please do this more often.
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  6. 44:16 Yemen? Jamal Kashoggi? The Afghanistan exit plan was Trump too. Palestinians probably didn't think Israel's occupation was "good". Lebanon collapsed; coups exploded across the sahel, al shabob and bolo haram ran rampant, turkey had a coup and Iran nuclear inspections were scrapped for... No better alternative agreement. We stopped a nuclear non-prolifération agreement for nothing under Trump. 48:16 that "rag tag group of Houthis" landed on a moving craft with a special forces team in a chopper... Ben is really choosey with his citations lol
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