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Comments by "Clint Holmes" (@clintholmes2061) on "Bernie Strong-Arms McConnell To Force A Vote On $2000 Payments" video.
They are bribed.
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@georgelilly1847 Regarding, "you kinda gotta blame the voters as well," No. You don't. You can claim they are wrong but you can't blame them. You blame the actual wrongdoers and the perps and the makers of what is. The peasant voters are not that. They are VICTIMS in this scenario. They deserve the blame no more than a women who is raped deserves blame even if she was wearing something slutty. You only blame wrongdoers, and never blame victims. Even if the victims are arguably being acting stupidly.
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@georgelilly1847 Regarding, "do those that support trump have no responsibility for bringing him into power" Yes. They can hold responsibility without holding blame. Regarding, "poverty and right wing propaganda have lead them there" You clearly understand that they are victims. Don't BLAME victims. It's really as simple as that.
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@georgelilly1847 Regarding, "I find the rape comparison both disingenuous and wildly offensive to rape victims." We are talking about victims right? That's the similarity that both share. My comparison is perfectly apt. Again... you seem to understand on some level they are victims. "years of poverty and right wing propaganda have lead them there" You can't just ignore this and then blame them for the circumstance when you should be blaming, "years of poverty and right wing propaganda have lead them there."
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@georgelilly1847 Do better please.
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@georgelilly1847 Regarding, "I think you are overly concerned with a single word rather than the obvious meaning based on the context of the rest of my comment." I don't care about semantics. I care about a concept. It's pretty simple. It goes. Don't blame victims. Do you have a problem with the concept and my point? If so how? You demonstrate with your own words that the people you are talking about are victims. "years of poverty and right wing propaganda have lead them there" We both seem to agree about this. This makes them both victims in our minds. So how do you justify blaming them? Shouldn't you be blaming "years of poverty and right wing propaganda have lead them there" instead of them? And if so how and why do you get there?
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@georgelilly1847 Regarding, " I also think the rape comparison is still mad fucked up." Then you need to demonstrate how one or the other isn't a victim. Instead you prove the opposite with your own words. Regarding, "Say that a woman got raped cause she wore a short skirt" Nobody gets raped because of what they wear. That's blaming the victim mentality and it happens all to often on every topic imaginable where there is a victim. No matter what that topic someone always, invariably tries to blame the victim, just like you have, and they are ALWAYS wrong.
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@georgelilly1847 Regarding, "The difference in case you don't see it is that rape victims had there own agency violently ripped from them, and voters didn't, its pretty simple" LMFAO. So the voters were asking for poverty and propaganda over time? It's there fault? Or maybe, just maybe, you should blame, "years of poverty and right wing propaganda." It's pretty simple. Blame the poverty and propaganda.
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Your comment is funny because you are clearly trying to assassinate the character of Jimmy Dore. Are you always such a blatant hypocrite?
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@jontomas2271 Hypocrites always have idiotic excuses for their hypocrisy.
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@jontomas2271 Regarding, "There you go again. - You double down on your idiocy" So you being a hypocrite is me being an idiot? Just STFU. Or are you trying to make everyone dumber with every stupid thing you say?
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@jontomas2271 Does your hypocrisy not bother you? Or do you really not understand why what you are doing is hypocritical? FYI I have zero interest in ANYTHING you have to say that isn't just an answer to these questions so do me a favor and spare me from any other drivel you want to spout. Thanks.
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@jontomas2271 On second thought I actually don't care about anything you have to think or say. Just go back to being a hypocrite who is too stupid to understand what is wrong with being a hypocrite.
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@jontomas2271 You have your hands full being an idiot and hypocrite. That's why I think it's best to leave you alone.
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@jontomas2271 I have to admit I was pretty stupid for taking you seriously at all.
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