Comments by "Clint Holmes" (@clintholmes2061) on "Democratic Convention To Spotlight Republicans Over AOC" video.

Republicans are welcome in the "democratic" party. Progressives are not.
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@maximus012 Shame! Shame! Shame! (ding ding, ding ding)
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@lynnrussell467 And I'm of the opinion that corporate dems have no place in the party. That's why they will never get my vote, including biden.
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ss Regarding, "can anyone seriously risk having another four years of Trump." Stop acting like trump is some sort of unique evil who is waiting for his second term to end the country. I'm actually of the belief that it would be best if trump wins. Not because of 2020-2024 which is going to suck regardless of who is president but because of 2024. If trump wins he and the "right" is blamed and the country looks to the "left" in 2024. If Biden wins the "left" is blamed in 2024 and the country looks to elect trump 2.0. I think the country is best if trump wins in the long run. But I don't vote for evil and terrible and neither should you, even if you think it's the "lesser" evil. It's still evil.
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@cloudyskiesnow Damn right. Neither are even close to being decent enough to be considered for my vote.
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ss Regarding, "The way to change the Democratic Party, is from within." If you actually want the party to change maybe don't support the corrupt version of the party like you are. Why would they ever change when you enable them? Why would they ever change when they know you are going to vote for them regardless of how terrible they are? If you really want them to change don't enable them while they are terrible.
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Nah. But I understand why you might think and say that.
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@Bluebelle51 Regarding, "They're trying to lose is why I say that" Except they are trying to win. Regarding, "they offer nothing" Nothing good but that is a different topic. They are trying to win. Now is winning their number one priority? Nope. If it were they might offer more. But they do want to win. To suggest otherwise is silly. Would corporate dems prefer trump be president or Bernie? Trump. But that doesn't mean they want to lose. Corporate dems want biden to win versus trump. That means they don't want to lose.
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If you vote for terrible you are part of the problem. Vote for good.
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@sgutie517 I'm not telling you or anyone to vote for biden. I actually tell people he is terrible, just like I do trump. Don't vote for terrible or you are part of the problem.
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It's not alright and people are going to watch it. Wishful thinking isn't the same thing as reality.
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The public has been brainwashed into thinking there are only 2 parties that matter and the entire system has rigged the game against 3rd parties. So...
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Sounds like someone needs a nap.
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@mikegriggs4572 Do you not have any fear about what happens after Biden if you get your wish? How does the story play out long term? Joe Biden wins in 2020. Nothing fundamentally changes in a world that is crumbling and DESPERATELY needs change. How doesn't that lead to Trump 2.0 after Biden? How does doing the exact same thing again lead to change? Instead of a repeat of history.
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@mikegriggs4572 Regarding, "I worry more about the harm trump can do to our Country, our Democracy, and our people over another 4 years" If that's the rationale you want to use to support evil and terrible so be it. You are hardly alone in your thinking. There are plenty of people on the right who think Trump is fucking terrible. That he sucks and doesn't deserve their vote. But they vote for the clown anyways just like you are voting for biden. And you all rationalize your voting for terrible by pointing at the other side and getting so scared you abandon any values and principles you might have had as you cast your vote for a disgrace to your species. You cite trump as your reasoning. They will cite Biden, or hillary, or pelosi as their reasoning. You are all sheep voting for clowns for terrible reasons. You are why Hillary used the pied piper strategy to prop up trump in 2016. And while you do what you do you ensure that every other politician will keep using that strategy because it clearly works on you.
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@goblinobz Especially while living in Alabama maybe vote for someone who actually deserves your vote? I live in a swing state and there is no way I'm voting for either Biden or Trump. I don't vote for dogshit.
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Let's say I agreed with this: Why does a republican have a lot more power and pull inside the "democratic" party than AOC?
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@BRCBrick Regarding, "he served in the House for almost 20 years," So his FORMER service is more important that AOC's CURRENT service in government? Regarding, "rubbed a lot of elbows with the higher ups" It funny that you are defending this clown and corrupt party but what you are actually saying is more of an indictment of them really. "Rubbed elbows" is just polishing a turd known as insider horsetrading. Regarding, "is much better connected with major figures than" But why is the guy who doesn't hold political office and holds ZERO tangible power "more connected." Shouldn't the powers that be care more about AOCs actual power? Since she is the only one of the two who has any? Or at least should? Regarding, "It's a numbers game" It's a corruption game. Try not to lie to yourself about it. Regarding, "who you know" People don't know who AOC is? Do you always say exclusively ridiculous shit?
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ss Regarding, "Change is happening with the success of progressive candidates over old party hacks." None of this has anything to do with Trump or Biden. It's merely a deflection. Regarding, "I don't like the DNC as much as you do" I doubt it. If you didn't like the DNC as much as me you would refuse to keep enabling them and supporting their clown candidates. Regarding, "dire circumstances like Trump, removes the luxury of a protest vote." I'll just wait for the unimportant presidential election to vote my values then. Oh wait... they are all important. You never addressed my real point. I'm looking to the future and 2024 while being convinced the next 4 years are going to be a depression. Am I wrong to think Trump 2.0 is inevitable after Biden's inevitable presidency failure? Because that's how I see things playing out.
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@Bluebelle51 Regarding, "People have been trying this "from within" crap for decades" Yup. And it hasn't worked. But it can. The key is getting a progressive nominee of the party. Corporate dems can be purged from the party the same way progressives have been in the past. The nominee is given crazy power to shape the party. They can, for example, ban that dirty money the corporate dems love so much. That would change the party overnight. There are no easy solutions. They all suck. All are not fair. But hostile takeover of the party is still the best, easist and best way to get the change this country needs. But don't mistake that for good or easy. I know it won't be. I know the establishment won't go down without a crazy fight.
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@Bluebelle51 One more thing regarding, "People have been trying this "from within" crap for decades" People have also been trying to run 3rd party and build 3rd parties for decades.
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@Bluebelle51 Regarding, "I'm more willing to vote for what I want and not get it than to vote for what I don't want and get that" Damn right. Winning is important but it isn't everything. Especially if "winning" means getting dogshit corporate dems. That's really just losing. Don't get me wrong I'm under no illusion that the party is going to change but I'm going to fight for the change I want anyway. And I'm not backing corporate dems. Justice democrats for the win.
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ss Regarding, "I don't support DNC candidates, where did I say that?" It seemed pretty implied when you were saying, "can anyone seriously risk having another four years of Trump" This seemed like you were clearly making the case for voting for Biden who is a DNC clown candidate. Feel free to correct me if you would like but that was the impression I got and it still seems understandable. Regarding, "My concern right now, is for the future of the Republic itself." Why exactly? The US is the greatest sponsor of terror around the globe. It's the greatest threat to world peace. It's government is filled with corruption. It doesn't guarantee health care to it's citizens. It locks up more of it's citizens by total and by percentage of population and it isn't even close. Why is saving this country really so important to you? Are you really sure it's worth saving as it is? Regarding, "Trump threatens its very existence." He is a clown and a symptom of greater problems. The US will persist. That said I'm not sure it should.
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