Comments by "Clint Holmes" (@clintholmes2061) on "AOC Shares 'Close Encounter', Rips Apart GOP 'Cowards' During Livestream" video.

  1. I am with Jimmy dore who says that the dems are as well. Republicans don't have a monopoly on evil.
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  2. She's just another fraud who talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.
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  3.  @d.rabbitwhite  She just voted for POS pelosi for speaker and got nothing for her vote despite it giving her and other progressives great leverage.
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  4.  @darrenbutler9819  Regarding, "corporate media and MOC would say MM4A doesn't work and it would be a loss." If I waited for corporate media and the MIC to play nice I'd never get the chance to fight for nice things. But since we are bringing up the corporate media one of their favorite talking points is m4a is "pie in the sky" "unattainable" "fantasy." Well it would be a lot harder for them to continue with that BS if m4a was something people in our government were actually voting on. It you seriously want m4a you want this fight. You know you have the best of it. If you are just pretending that you support m4a you make excuse for not fighting. But they are all pathetic and terrible and wreck of being reverse engineered to come to the conclusion they want of not fighting for m4a. Stop it.
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  5. Are there innocents working at the capital? Or just warmongers?
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  6. Then she votes for that shit power and gets nothing for it.
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  7.  @darrenbutler9819  Regarding, "So what? just reject them" Or you could just ignore poor behavior the way trump fans do. Regarding, "lose all ground we gained with these progressives?" What are you talking about? I'm saying actions speak louder than words. I'm saying if someone doesn't act like a progressive we treat them like they aren't a progressive. Regarding, " It's not like we can just draw up another leftist to run and they win just like that" I'm hardly talking about the next election. We just had elections for fucks sake. I'm saying that I'm going to call them frauds when the act like frauds. I do the same for EVERYONE. Regarding, "for all we know they foresaw something bad coming from rejecting Pelosi and forcing the vote." LMFAO. It's like you want to be lied to. I use occam's razor. It leads me to the conclusion that they suck. Actions speak louder than words. ESPECIALLY when it comes to politicians. Regarding, "But sure let's destroy the left." If you are standing in the way of m4a you aren't the "left." And if you are standing in the way of m4a you are part of the problem. In a world where practically nothing is simple this kinda is.
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  8. Keep licking that boot that had the chance to fight for m4a but instead voted for pelosi.
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  9. She's just another fraud and is arguably worse than the rest of the swamp. At least you understand the others are swamp creatures but you have your pom poms out for her.
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  10. She is a fake who just sold out m4a to vote for pelosi.
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  11. And she simps for mama bear.
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  12.  @why-even-try-brotendo  Regarding, "You guys are complete idiots" Funny coming from a bootlicker. Regarding, " let's get a loss on M4A" Fighting for m4a is a loss? In what world? Regarding, "It was always going to end with Pelosi as Speaker." Yup. But they had leverage to get something for it and used squandered that leverage because they are frauds. Regarding, "You were holding NOTHING over their heads." They needed those votes for pelosi as speaker. Just lying like this doesn't help your case. It just means you are a liar who isn't really to be taken seriously. Regarding, "You are just a bunch of whiners stomping your feet." I don't pretend I was the one with any real power. AOC did. You are just bootlicker making idiotic excuses for her failure and her selling the people out.
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  13.  @josh420masterB  Regarding, "How many times have you personally made attempts to reach out to AOC to try and change her mind on forcing the vote?" I was on her mailing list and responded to about 6 emails she sent me all with a message that she needs to force the vote or be forever dead to me. And the notion that I need to get her to do the right thing is asinine. STOP DEFENDING HER. STOP ACTING LIKE IT'S MY FAULT SHE DIDN'T DO THE RIGHT THING!
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  14.  @josh420masterB  FYI after her vote for pelosi I sent her a last email calling her a fraud and removing myself from her mailing list. But good news that means you can blame me for everything since I'm done trying to reach out to her. It will forever be my fault when she doesn't do the right thing.
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  15.  @why-even-try-brotendo  Regarding, "I probably got a little too aggressive myself but Jimmy Dore just makes my blood boil." You are getting mad a guy trying to force our shit politicians to do the right thing. It's messed up. Your priorites are messed up. You should be getting mad at the politicians standing in the way between you and m4a. But you are mad at Jimmy? Regarding, "He has never once admitted to being wrong about anything." I've disagreed with jimmy about plenty but I don't care about this. Not sure why you do. I'm talking about m4a. You are talking about jimmy. Regarding, "He isn't honest" And still you have yet to offer a single thing that he has said that is dishonest. Regarding, "He even said he made AOC. Wow! Just wow." It was clearly hyperbole meaning that he helped her and helped giver her exposure. He did. Kyle could say the same thing if he wanted but likely wouldn't. But this has NOTHING to do with m4a. It's like you want to talk about anything other than that.
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  16.  @why-even-try-brotendo  Regarding, "The loss OBVIOUSLY being the vote." Which is moronic. Regarding, "did you think it would pass?" No. I didn't. That's not the only way you "win." It ALREADY was a success. It exposed AOC. I fucking loved her before this. Now I know she is a fraud as is anyone who opposed a no-brainer idea like this. Regarding, "Did you think the House would just go on without a Speaker if they "forced the vote?" " I think that pelosi would cave and grant the vote if she was actually pressured. But AOC and frauds like her didn't even try. Stop defending their actions with your nonsense.
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  17.  @josh420masterB  Regarding, "Telling someone that they need to do what you say or you'll hate them forever isn't necessarily the most persuasive argument," I tried to sugar coat it and be persuasive at the time. But you just keep blaming me. It's clearly all my fault. I suck. If only I were better we could have nice things. Regarding, "I am not laying any blame on you." Of course you are. "How many times have you personally made attempts to reach out to AOC to try and change her mind on forcing the vote?" This sure as shit isn't blaming AOC. It's blaming me. Don't pretend otherwise.
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  18. They are frauds. I'm done like them.
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  19. AOC is a fraud who voted for Pelosi and got nothing of value for it when she could have demanded a vote on m4a. She is a fraud. Never forget.
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  20. It was set up to give slave states more representation than they deserved.
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  21.  @haraldisdead  Regarding, "no, it wasn't." Yes. It was. Regarding, "states with large populations with those of small ones" Small ones? Like states that included 3/5ths people helping make them "small" or at least significantly smaller than their actually population because of 3/5ths people? You are actually proving my point but are too stupid to realize it.
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  22.  @haraldisdead  Regarding, "I have a degree in history" What school so I can make sure to avoid it?
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  23.  @haraldisdead  Regarding, "it wasn't instituted because of slavery." I'm not saying it was "instituted" because of slavery but slavery had HUGE effect. So much so that without it the EC may very well not have been the compromise. Remember the bar was, "The electoral college had nothing to do with slavery" not "the ec was instituted because of slavery." Regarding, "It was about population." And slavery had huge direct effect on POPULATION. Regarding, "you can be a condescending, insufferable asshole all you want" Correct. I'm right because I have the facts on my side. You can offer up the logical fallacy of authority but that doesn't make you correct. Regarding, "I'm not sure why you're even being so fucking aggressive about this." I fucking hate the EC. It is a POS that takes a system that is as best as it can possibly be and makes it worse so that some votes are more valuable that others. It sucks. And the BS that are spewing is only used to defend the archaic EC that should never have been started much less continued.
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  24.  @haraldisdead  Regarding, "I'm not saying it didn't benefit slave States" Your OP, "The electoral college had nothing to do with slavery." Regarding, "I have a degree in history" But you don't understand why people lying about history is a bad thing? Well like I said your lies are used to try and keep the POS EC around. Even if that weren't the case the fact that you are spreading lies about history should be more than enough for you to understand why what you are doing bothers me. A person with a degree in history should understand better than most why people lying about history is a bad thing.
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  25.  @haraldisdead  FYI I've never known anyone to try and bring up your talking point unless they were fans of the EC who were trying to justify it and rationalize it. That also likely has something to do with my hostility. And this is the time of year that I'm always willing to take a piss on the EC and point out the many, many, many ways it is terrible if you want. I don't only want to trash it when it causes the person with less votes to "win." So if you want to debate the EC and it's merits because you are a fan of it I welcome a debate on the topic. (full disclosure: I can be a condescending dick but you already know this). I mean maybe you were just taught bullshit (FYI I was taught in school that slavery did have an effect because, like you mentioned, it was about population) and thought you were setting the record straight and have no love of the EC. If that's the case just ignore this offer. But if your OP came from a place of love for the EC I welcome you to try and justify that love. The EC is garbage.
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  26.  @haraldisdead  "disagrees with you" You were lying about history. You weren't "disagreeing with me." Regarding, "it still wasn't about slavery." Do you not realize you are just moving the bar around or do you not care that you are just moving the bar around. This was not your OP. Your OP was, "The electoral college had nothing to do with slavery" And your OP is factually incorrect because slavery had direct effects on population. And you know the EC was largely about states population. Do you think that slave states failed to understand how the EC was affected them? Even though I can clearly understand and tell you how it was very important and directly linked? But maybe they didn't realize that back in the day even thought they OBVIOSLY did and it OBVIOUSLY had to do with slavery. Regarding, " it had an effect on everything." Most importantly it had an effect on POPULATION right? But that didn't stop you from an OP that was nonsense right? You can either think, "(the ec) had an effect on everything (or more specifically the EC had an effect on population)." or you can think "The electoral college had nothing to do with slavery." You only get one lane to pick but you are trying to drive in both.
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  27.  @haraldisdead  Regarding, "I despise the electoral college" We agree on this. Which makes your decision to try and reinvent history to make it seem like slavery wasn't a big factor in the founders decisions really baffling.
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  28.  @haraldisdead  Regarding, "you could say that the invention of the steam Locomotive was "about slavery."" That would be far more accurate than saying, "The locomotive had nothing to do with slavery." But it still seems more than a little misleading and wrong. If you want to be completely accurate and keep it simple I'd suggest something like, "Slavery had an effect on the locomotive." This to me would be most accurate and check all the right boxes if you care about facts and being factual correct. And I do care about that. You should to.
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  29. Yup. A brilliant fraud.
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  30. Better yet, AOC to get primaried.
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  31.  @IMSiegfried  I accept that type of "logic" coming from you as much as I would accept it coming from a trump supporter defending the orange clown. I don't.
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  32. She lost all my respect when she sold out m4a to vote for mama bear.
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  33.  @nogoodtsunax  "Then you aren't really for M4A" Yeah that makes no sense. The person not for m4a is AOC.
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  34.  @pennywells9824  Regarding, "I think innocent is those that are violently attacked while doing their job." Even when that job involves something like, for example, warmongering they are still "innoncent?"
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  35.  @alanhyt79  Yeah. Good news. They have excellent health insurance while millions of people lose theirs.
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  36.  @alanhyt79  The "democratic" party controls everything and they won't even vote on m4a.
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  37.  @pennywells9824  Regarding, "If you read my comment I did say those that supported trump were not." Huh? I don't care if you are a trump supporter or not? I haven't even brought up the orange clowns name. Regarding, "Read before you get sarcastic or snarky." Is this your idea of not being sarcastic and snarky? LFMAO
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  38. Better yet let's cancel the POS politician who voted for pelosi and sold out m4a?
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  39.  @why-even-try-brotendo  Regarding, "Tucker Carlson considers Jimmy an ally." AOC considers Nancy Pelosi an ally. I wonder why that is 🤔
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  40.  @josh420masterB  "I've clearly wasted too much time on this conversation already." Yeah. By making excuses for AOC and trying to shift the blame to me. Do better going forward.
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  41.  @why-even-try-brotendo  Regarding, "You are CLEARLY the unreasonable one here. The world has ended" I never said "the world has ended." Not even close. Cool strawman argument. Very "reasonable" of you.
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  42.  @why-even-try-brotendo  Regarding, "I thought it was just hyperbole. Like Jimmy saying he made AOC." Fair enough. Thanks for making my point for me 🤡
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  43. Yup. It's her votes that are the problem. Fraud squad. Never forget.
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  44.  @Etaoinshrdlu69  I don't care about your perceived "team." I care about m4a.
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  45.  @Etaoinshrdlu69  "Stop it with the entitlement. " Better yet... you stop it with the bootlicking.
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  46.  @Etaoinshrdlu69  I have nothing but contempt for the orange clown but don't let that stop you from deflecting from your hero the same way trumpanzee's do when the topic is their clown.
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  47.  @Etaoinshrdlu69  You are clearly a sycophant. Just like trump supporters.
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  48. Brave AOC, to completely betray all your stated beliefs and sell them out to support me took amazing courage. I don't know how you did it. Thank goodness you were here for me and turned your back on the people who supported you and got you were you are. Sincerely, Nancy Pelosi.
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