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Comments by "Clint Holmes" (@clintholmes2061) on "Warren And Meghan McCain Clash Over Fox News" video.
This is it bobby. This is her "broken clock" moment. Meghan is correct that Warren should be willing to go on fox. It's literally everything else that she says that is wrong.
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I sure as fuck don't care about Meghan McCain's opinion but strangely enough she is correct about this. Warren is very, very, very wrong to not be willing to even attempt to reach fox viewers.
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@whyme777x Regarding, "McCain is only incidentally correct." So what. She is still correct the same way Trump is correct when he says CNN sucks. Maybe they both say what they do for the wrong reasons but ultimately what they are saying is correct on the surface. And if she is correct that means warren is wrong right? Because she is? And isn't that what is really what is important? Her opinion and not Meghans? Regarding, "She's only using an attack..." So what. It works. Because ultimately she is correct and Warren should be going on fox. Regarding, "You'll never hear a story from corporate media" Corporate media is shit. This isn't about that. This is about what is the best strategy to confront the corrosive influence of corporate media. And just ignoring it and hoping it goes away while you ignore it is dumb as fuck. You shine light on that shit. You tell them why what they are saying is dumb. You do everything you can to burst their bubble and confront the ideology. That is why Warren is wrong and McCain is right for once in her pathetic life. Fuck Warren for making me take that cunts side on something.
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@ciamciaramcia99 Regarding, "Ofcourse Fox is worst than CNN and MSNBC. That doesn't mean they're better." Actually that would mean you think they are better.
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I agree with everything you said other than about love for Warren. I used to love her but have since come to see her as a fake progressive.
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You can't agree with them both anymore then you can agree with any two people with polar opposite views. Even if both made "good cases" to you ultimately one of them is right and one of them is wrong. You can't have it both ways and think they are both right.
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Imagine thinking Trump is a crazed lunatic and also voting to give Trump more money for bombs then even he wanted. Oh wait.. I don't have to imagine... I can just look at Warren.
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And while McCain is a total nincompoop she is actually correct about this.
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@jameshumphrey9939 Regarding, "people don't generally think anything really" Nope. People like you are not the norm.
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@ciamciaramcia99 Regarding, "Better means more of a good thing" No. It doesn't. Open a fucking dictionary. We don't get to have our own independent meaning of words. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/better
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This. It's such a no brainer. Sad the "smart" side is having trouble with it.
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@bobbygrewal5547 Regarding, "I don't think Warren will budge" Which makes it yet another reason why she isn't worthy of support. Not that I needed another one. She was pretty much dead to me the day she voted to give Trump, a person she thinks is a psycho, more money for bombs then even he wanted.
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@bobbygrewal5547 Warren is overrated. I used to really like her. I wanted her to run in 2016. But she didn't. She instead chose to step aside and make room for Hillary. She could have backed a true progressive in Sanders after he surged. She didn't. And since then she has been a constant disappoint to me. From her lack of support of DAPL protestors, to voting give trump more money for bombs she gives me reason to question her. And now it's 2020 and this is the time when she chooses to run for president. Now that the progressive movement has a clear leader. Now that a progressive is the most popular politician in the country. Now she thinks it's time for HER. When she should be doing anything and everything to help Sanders for the country. We know the establishment is going to try to fuck him and she is lubing his ass for them. Seriously... fuck her. Her campaign seems like an effort to try and siphon votes from Sanders and make it more likely for an establishment shill like Biden to win and nothing more.
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She is fucking terrible. But don't be close minded yourself. She is actually correct about this. Warren is very wrong to not be willing to go on fox.
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So much defeatist attitude. No wonder the left loses so much. They would rather feel superior then win elections too often it seems.
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@Dauntress- Regarding, "we reach too far." What is this suppose to mean? Regarding, "My point is that Trumps policies are a far cry from some one like Bernie’s." I'm not going to lie I don't see this point in your original comment anywhere. Regarding, "And assuming that people actually vote on policy" Which is not a good assumption. Don't get me wrong it's what they should be voting on but if you are just going to assume it's what everyone does you would be wrong. And part of the problem with fox is that they don't give a clear and accurate picture of reality. They are being force-fed bullshit. Part of the reason they eat it is because they don't know different. You have the chance to try and break them from this. To give them real facts and knowledge. Some of them are going to eat it (real facts and knowledge). But not if you never even try. Regarding, "there are far more reachable groups" Preaching to the choir only gets you so far. Regarding, "people who think that Fox News is the end all be all of info sources" Americas are busy working their asses off. They are trying to pay the bills and put food on the plate. Lots of them are too fucking busy to spend the amount of time consuming and analyzing the news and politics the way you or I might do. But they might put the news on for an hour at the end of a long day to try and be informed. Maybe they trust fox for whatever terrible reasons. Let's not right them all off shall we? Let's not paint with huge brushes and assume all fox viewers are a monolith and all think exactly the same. Give them the benefit of the doubt and some of them are going to come to your side. But first you need to at least try to give them a reason to and calling them all dipshits who aren't worthy of even the effort is a ensuring defeat. You do want to win right?
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She is a terrible person. But that doesn't mean she is wrong here.
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