Comments by "Robert Marshall" (@robertmarshall2502) on ""Gender Dogma is Dangerous" - Kellie-Jay Keen (4K) | heretics. 26" video.

@AceTurbo59 Do you mean, adult human female? Because that's the most important one in any legal context. I also think the fact the ppl who hate her have an incredibly nebulous or nonsensical or inconsistent definition of woman isn't actually a plus.
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@rgghjs9270 I found these videos incredibly biased and not grounded in reality. If he'd have documented the actions and members of trans activism, many now or ex-prisoners then fair enough. But he decided his angle before he started and made a number of dodgy claims. The gist, as always, is Nazi by adjacency. It never involves actually listening to what someone says. If I play that game then trans activists come out much much worse. Plus we've already seen this happen to Rowling, Stock, Joyce etc and it just reeks of misogyny at this point. Call them names but don't deal with their arguments has gotten tired. There are no good arguments for destroying single sex spaces or female sports. The weight of the evidence is heavily against affirmative care in children. I seriously doubt Shaun would ever do an interview nor interview someone he disagrees with. Maybe I'm wrong.
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@rgghjs9270 Of course Shaun doesn't do interviews. No one with his views on trans and women's issues does.
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Would you actually be open to reading crime stats on self-id trans women? We have them from across the Western world. Please note that in the UK the average number of trans ppl murdered per year is less than 1. The number murdered for being trans is flat zero. I think you can make an argument about some benign group of trans ppl but only if you at the same time separate out the self-id predators which ultimately means keeping males out of women's spaces.
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@rgghjs9270 Tbf you've got a point there but what India's views are now I'm not sure, what India said 5 years ago and now are different and I can't keep up. I don't think they're views either entirely in step with the trans activists or coherent. I don't think India is likely to sit down with someone like Helen Joyce or Kathleen Stock. Deirdre Mccloskey did a "debate" with Stock. The arguments from Deirdre were a mess and Stock apologetically dismantled them as is her style.
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@rgghjs9270 Kathleen Stock and Helen Joyce can't exactly be accused of saying ignorant things about trans ppl or gender identities. I've heard India say some incredibly ignorant things, mainly about women. But like I say, it depends, because I think she used to say more reasonable things like males in women's sport makes no sense and then I think she went more ideologue. I might be wrong. When you say "genuine" what do you mean? Like I say I don't remember well but I don't think India had a gender dysphoria diagnosis as a child.
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@connor5669 Whats your source for your claim about trans women getting s assaulted? If you look at rorschach test wings over Scotland then you'll see that 40% is a low estimate. In every country in the Anglosphere self-id "trans women" vastly disproportionately women in sexual and violent crimes. If we can't draw conclusions about them then we can't draw conclusions about female prisoners because there are so few of them. In many Western countries there are now enough self-id "trans women" to be housed in their own special prison. There are hundreds of them in the UK alone yet only a few thousand trans women with a gender recognition certificate. Why not make the more reasonable argument that the problem is self-id? That we can't differentiate between "true" and "fake" trans ppl and therefore we can't let any males into female spaces?
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Is your opinion that ppl with AGP can't be trans? If so how can ppl actually tell the difference? It feels like a lot of the trans movement is now led by agp males.
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What exactly do you disagree with the guests about trans issues?
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@5thejurassic a) They don't always turn up, they turned up in Australia in a place that she was banned from going on. b) She was warned they might turn up because they often turn up at TRANS events. c) If I apply this stupid argument to trans activists then I get things like why do pdf files and s offenders LEAD the damn things This guilt by being near someone who you explicitly disagree with us utterly stupid but if we do it fairly then damn it's bad for the trans activists
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Haven't you heard? Eunuch is now considered a gender. What "progressive" times
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@Ψυχήμίασμα l unfortunately I think you're right. I notice most of them have never made a single comment before on the channel and never respond again. I've also noticed they never ever want to read about crime stats. I think they already know what they'll find.
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 @JB.zero.zero.1 Don't you think males committing r--- in women's prisons and surgeries on children is worth at least some of our attention?
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@miriamlana833 In the UK we desperately need them to define sex legally and gender separately. Male and female are incredibly easy to define. There is no third sex in humans. People seem to be mindlessly claiming that this is all a mystery or arbitrary. It is only gender which doesn't have a good definition. That's partly because almost nothing legally needs doing based on your gender. Much of this problem is about ppl using gender to gain access to sex-based rights through loopholes and nonsensical claims. Female-single sex rights need protection now more than ever. S assaults are on the rise. Apparently crime committed by "women" has doubled. I wonder if there's something this new criminal class of "women" has? Oh, it's that they're male.
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Saying female refers to gender is a bit of a silly position. The dictionary definition of female doesn't agree with you. It requires you then to define gender. I think that's possible but never see anyone do it. I think because it would automatically exclude ppl. Why not go more middle ground and say we essentially have to two definitions one based on sex and one based on gender?
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@Susanmugen @Susanmugen Yes Wikipedia, which can be edited by anyone and claims we're all assigned sex at birth even though my national health service literally doesn't do that does say nonsense. The rule with Wikipedia is don't look up anything you're qualified in because it will be massively wrong. I studied History, the historical pages on Wikipedia are absolute garbage. It also clearly has a biological explanation of what female is you daft twonk governed by chromosomes. It also doesn't say trans women are women. It says trans women have a gender identity different to their male sex and at no point claims they're female. I enjoyed you telling me to look up definition when you didn't do that lol
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