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Comments by "lostlogic69" (@lostlogic6911) on "Mykolaiv Hit With Kalibr Missiles, Russia Mocks Kyiv’s Kinzhal Claim, US’ Patriot System “Damaged”" video.
Damaging just one part of the Patriot system doesn't destroy the Patriot system, it can still operate with its remaining rocket system. And to damage just one of them with 6 multi-million dollar missile is already a huge loss for Russia.
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@kyleiki2473 Denial of the truth doesn't help your case.
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@carlosbanosoliva4226 Yes, but the thing is, the Kinzhal hit the Rocket platform of the Patriot and not its radar system. You can even see the missile leaving the area where the Kinzhal supposedly hit, so I don't know where you got the Idea that the Russian hit the Radar platform. I already made the calculation, and 6 Kinzhal costing 10 million equals 60 million versus 6 Patriot missiles costing 4 million equals 40 million, difference of 20 Milliont. Enough money to equip Russian soldiers with basic necessities, but Putin blew away on a white elephant. The Russians wasted 60 million to slightly damage the Patriot.
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Shooting 5 out of 6 Kinzhal down ain't bad considering that before the Patriot, Ukraine has no answer for the Kinzhal. Now that percentage jump from 0 to 98%.
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@ritabratagoswami7724 Yes, I've heard of the BetaB-500 which is among the wreckage and the most prominent in the photo evidence, but its just one bomb among the wreckage. If you look closely on the video when Klitschko was posing with the BETAB, you can see the remain of the Kinzhal in the background. Irrelevant if the Kinzhal is flying at mach 10, it has a predictable flight path which any rocket irregardless of speed with an ai can calculate thus hitting the area where the Kinzhal will pass. Didn't you learn how a Patriot system work? Patriot rockets are much cheaper compared to Kinzhal and the more Kinzhal wasted, the better.
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@carlosbanosoliva4226 Where did you get the estimate for 30 Patriot rockets? It was never stated that Patriots were the only air defense system in Kyiv. There is also the Gepard, the NASAMs, etc. You're making assumptions base on no facts.
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@nicholassimorangkir9093 Can you prove in court that this coutry has indeed lied? Anyway, doesn't matter if US lied or not, the result speaks for itself. And the result shows that Russia is still losing.
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@nicholassimorangkir9093 Yes, because Russia is advancing in a much slower pace now than compared to 2022 and losing more men and equipment in the process. that kind of advancement is unsustainable in the long run. Who will they take to defend all those territories if all their soldiers are dead after taking those territories?
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@nicholassimorangkir9093 Man power is useless if you don't have the equipments, guns and tanks for that. What they gonna do? Jam up the tank treads with their bodies?
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@francissantos7448 Potato, Potatoe, you're arguing over semantics. Irrelevant what percentage the Patriot system hit is, the fact that it is effective. I just exaggerated the claim a little. Sometimes even reaching a 100% that one time.
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@AK-qe3pz Yes, I have seen it, but what is the point? And I was not referring to the BETAB that Klitschko was posing with, I was referring to the White missile on the background that highly resemble the Kinzhal albeit with its pointed head, but you clearly see the upper half and lower half with the fins.
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Funny because you keep saying "shovels" as if it was funny.
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Yeah no. Keep those Russian meats coming, we don't want to waste time hunting you all down.
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@ritabratagoswami7724 Don't you understand basic physics? The faster you are the harder it is to turn. Even if the Kinzhal can zig zag in flightpath, it still can't turn as sharply as it needs to do to avoid the PAC-3 which is although supersonic, is not as fast as the Kinzhal thus more maneuverable. Again denial of truth is not helping your case. You're just shoving your face into the sand hoping the cold hard facts would go away. But it doesn't, and so does the truth that the Russians have lost this war.
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@gerard02700 you forgot the 5 other Kinzhal that they used just to kinda damage the rocket launcher of the Patriot system.
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@ritabratagoswami7724 A quick google search shut down your argument. The Kinzhal cost 10 million meaning those 6 rockets cost 60 million and let's say the Patriot send 6 rockets to intercept those Kinzhal, that's 24 million versus 60 million.
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This is the difference between Russia and the West. The West never assumes their weaponries were invulnerable, they let it prove in the battlefield. The boastful is always found out.
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@ritabratagoswami7724 The US already confirmed that the damaged sustained by the missile launcher platform of the Patriot was indeed damaged albeit minimal, and considering that the Kinzhal was packing warhead that can level buildings, I'm beginning to suspect that the Patriot has indeed hit the Kinzhal, detonating its payload but was still hit by the force of the blast. You can't rush investigations, Ukrainians are unlike the Russians. They coordinate first with their Western counterpart for the best course of action. They don't rush headlong without a plan.
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@AK-qe3pz Lol, it's already been shown in all Western Media left and right, where have you been hiding? Best AD system? A lone "Ukrainian" drone exploded on top of the Kremlin, where's your AD then? Granted, it's a false flag, but it does put to question whether what you claim is actually true or full of shit. Saw Macgregor, Scott Ritter, and the rest. They've been saying that Ukraine is nearly defeated since 2022, and soon the war will be over. It's 2023, and I'm getting tired of their same old claim that "Ukraine is finish".
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@liongordel9088 And the Officials at the Pentagon saw it as it is, a Kinzhal. Either they're lying of you're just in denial, and I take the offical stance if there is no other evidence to the contrary.
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@ritabratagoswami7724 Still much cheaper than the Kinzhal. let's say we take your average of 7 Million x 6 rockets equals 42 million, then take the highest price of the Pac-3 4 million x 6 rockets equals 24 Million. 42 -24 equals 18 Million, Still a steep price. 18 targets consisting of Kinzhal, Shaheds, Kalibr, Orlans. Patriots took care of the Cruise and Hypersonic missiles while the Shahed hunters took care of the Shaheds and Orlans. The US confirmed that the PAC-3 missile platform was damaged although minimally and was not destroyed as Russia claims.
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@ritabratagoswami7724 I am saying that for 6 Kinzhal missiles, 6 Patriot missiles are used. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that 6 is equal to 6. It is you that needs to prove that Ukraine used more than 6 Patriot missiles for 6 Kinzhal.
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@ritabratagoswami7724 Apparently so, seeing as there were no reported casualties or destruction in Kyiv apart from the damaged Rocket platform. You said it yourself, we have no data on how much Patriot Missile were used to down those Kinzhal, so we go back to the previous incident where the Patriot did hit a Kinzhal. And calculating from that engagement, I deduced that the rate in which Patriot missile is able to hit a Kinzhal is 1:1. Meaning my assestment is much more probable than yours.
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@obisanchez5286 Unless you have a picture or an official statement from the US showing that the Russians did managed to destroy a Patriot, i'll assume you're living in Fantasyland.
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Yet I still see the destroyed Kinzhal in the background. Denial of the truth is the reason why Russia is losing.
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Go back to RT then. Maybe they won't hurt your delicate constitution.
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@rasheedh7043 That's still 0 Kinzhal destroying Patriot system, and now 6 Kinzhal destroyed by Patriot system. 70 million down the drain.
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@rasheedh7043 Still got no argument? It seems like you've given up already. I expected you'd put up more resistance than this.
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@nicholassimorangkir9093 I don't need to prove anything because they're Official US statements. It is actually you who needs to prove to me that they are wrong.
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@bekeneel They're so desperate for a good news, they'll take this as a win, without realizing that it cost Russia 60 million dollar to slightly damage one Rocket platform.
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@nicholassimorangkir9093 Lol, you still have no refutation to my arguments. It just means you can't refute my truth and are just denying yourself from it.
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@wolfthorn1 a quick google search says the Patriot unit cost 6 millioon dollars. Much cheaper than a Kinzhal, and far, far effective. You are so full of copium, you forgot to research
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