Comments by "No Fate But What We Make" (@SonoftheAllfather) on "Venezuelan Nationalists Attempt to Bomb Supreme Court Using Stolen Helicopter" video.
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Again, you are wrong, Dan. They were compelled to implement large social welfare systems because they gained wealth and prosperity from capitalism, diversified their economies, and implemented social programs that were somewhat sustainable IN THOSE COUNTRIES FOR A TIME. All they are doing currently is enjoying the fruits of prior prosperity and deferring an unsustainable future to the next generation. It is deferred gratification. They enjoy social programs now while the system gets increasingly unsustainable, government gets increasingly more inept and burdensome, and more and more idiotic fiscal and immigration policies are implemented with no regard for future outcomes. A socialist like system is only a "healthy mix" if ALL THINGS REMAIN CONSTANT, and at that point the system must revert back the fiscal sanity and less socialism. Of course things aren't remaining constant in Europe and many of these countries will decline because of their retarded social, immigration, and border policies. You obviously have a very myopic and simplistic understanding of this. Just because something works in Sweden or Canada does not mean it can be applied in the U.S. and be sustainable. The U.S. federal government spends massively on social programs as it is. 91% of the mandatory budget and 21% of the discretionary budget in 2015 (About 2/3 of the total annual budget of 3.8 trillion dollars, or 2.53 trillion/year). The U.S. has a larger population than the top 15 social welfare spending states COMBINED. (France, Finland, Belgium, Italy, Denmark, Austria, Sweden, Greece, Germany, Norway, Spain, Portugal, Slovenia, Netherlands, Luxembourg). Educate yourself, FFS.
https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/
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Really, Dan? Welfarism is not socialism. The Nordic Model is not socialism. Germany, the Nordic countries, France, Canada, Australia...not socialism. I'll bet every single country you're thinking of is a mixed market economy that is more capitalist than socialist. I'd also wager that every country you're thinking of has only a fraction of the population of the U.S. and significantly less immigrants, poor, and elderly. Even Germany has less than 1/4 of our population. You cannot take the European/Commonwealth welfare state model and apply it to a population of 330-350 million and growing. It doesn't fucking work. The U.S. only spends 3% less (19%) of our GDP on social programs than Norway, who are second in the world at 22% and have the second highest GDP-per-capita ratio in the world. We have over 10 times the population of Norway just in elderly people on Medicare. All of those European countries are just now starting to feel the burden of mass immigration, an aging population, and a low birth rate amongst the productive classes, and they already have 40-50% average tax. You talk about elitists and wealth and power disparity as if they haven't existed in every single real-world practical application of a socialist system. Every socialist regime has produced an elite class as well, they are just government and military people that take all the wealth and power instead of a corporate oligarchy. The elite within a Marxist/Leninist regime have their own military, police and intelligence apparatuses to crush any dissidence. Yay. I could "hand-pick" several countries that have failed under socialism. Venezuela was moving further and further towards the proverbial socialist cliff and they collapsed under the massive weight of their unsustainable central bureaucracy. You don't have to be a Green party supporter to fucking get that pure unbridled socialism or capitalism both don't fucking work.
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Dan Mannington You should revoke your American citizenship and immigrate to Canada since it's so much greater than your own country, Dan. You can have incredibly high taxes, shitty sorta free healthcare, and go on welfare and live in a government subsidized housing project full of other immigrants to include imbedded terrorists that the Trudeau administration protects. Since the wealth mobility is second to none, you shouldn't be there long, Dan. But then you'll realize that all the real estate in the urban centers is being bought by wealthy Asians and you won't be able to afford anything decent, so you'll be forced out of the city core. With real estate and rental prices skyhigh, your only choice will be to buddy up to some wealthy liberal government elite that can crony you out and give you a fat paying public sector job like a good little socialist. Then on your way to the office, you can share your 100% taxpayer subsidized salary with the thousands of homeless drug addicts littering the streets that shitty Canadian social programs couldn't save. Make sure you don't criticize Islam or call someone by the wrong pronoun while you're up there, you can get legally prosecuted for that, Dan! Everything will seem fantastic, until you realize debt is skyrocketing and will continue to skyrocket far into the foreseeable future with no sane plan or method to pay for it. Your pension will depend on that system, Dan, but unfortunately immigrants are sucking all those benefits dry. Looks like you're back in the subsidized housing project Dan, but oops, that depends on the taxpayer too, and since you're White you'll be at the bottom of the list. No pension, no housing, no welfare...hmmm...I guess you'll be out on the street with the rest of the bums, Dan. But at least you'll have free healthcare if you get frostbite on your feet...oh wait...it isn't free...it depends on taxpayers too. Go for it, Dan!
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