Comments by "JBird" (@jbird4478) on "Western media’s embarrassing failings covering the violence in Amsterdam | The Listening Post" video.

He just filmed what he witnessed, which was one of numerous incidents that happened throughout the city. What is a shame is that some people use this to present a narrative as if that somehow proves that everything else that went on didn't happen.
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Correct. It is worrisome that all media seems to be biased, and this is dividing people even further. People have a fundamental weakness that when they see one story is biased, they are inclined the blindly believe the opposing narrative.
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Wishful thinking. Those politicians are who people vote for. While it is impossible to tell exactly, the party that supports Israel the most is also the largest party, most large parties have a more nuanced view on it, but the parties that are most critical of Israel are all small.
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Him filming one incident does not "debunk" the numerous other incidents that were going on in the city. Unbelievable that people think that's how the world works.
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@pipo4158 No, it's called reality. But people on this channel seem largely not interested in that. Or do you really think those 10 minutes of footage is somehow all that happened in Amsterdam throughout the night?
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Not to mention that AJ has also been spreading verifiably false information from Amsterdam surrounding these events, including a blatantly obvious made up translation of the mayor of Amsterdam.
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What about your own errors? Or are those not errors but deliberate?
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@BarbaryLion85 Yes. I counted them as having a more nuanced view. They advocate and have always advocated for a two state solution, and respect for international law. This has also always been the position of the Dutch government. Contrast this to DENK that advocates for a single state of Palestine, and speaks of the Israel officials as war criminals without there being a conviction in international court. That party has only 3 seats.
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@notaspeck6104 We have never lived in a world where those things don't happen.
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"But mommy, they started it". Seriously, though. Tell me exactly how hooliganism justifies people driving around and attacking anyone who they perceive as jewish.
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Be wary however that the one pointing out bias is not necessarily unbiased either. "The truth" is complex and nuanced.
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If that's the case how come all the people that ended up in the hospital were Israeli?
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@Tin-j6k Even if it was fully a response, that behavior does not in any way justify people who went driving through the city looking for people who they deemed jewish and committing violence against them. It is really annoying to see that so many media and people seem incapable of understanding the simple truth that two things can both be true.
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@Tin-j6k I didn't bring that into it. The attackers themselves did that. If people are driving through the city going on - in their own words - a "jew hunt", and attacking people who they deem jewish, how is that not antisemitism?
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@NikkMikk What are you saying exactly? That anyone not willing to morally defend mobs who committed serious assaults is a "hasbara bot"? Get a grip on reality please.
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@NikkMikk I'm not defending anyone. I'm really confused on how people smart enough to use the internet are too dumb to understand that the existence of violent hooligans does not somehow disprove other violent people.
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@NikkMikk But they were though. There were Israeli hooligans arrested as well.
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@NikkMikk It's also not "one side" versus the "other side". Life isn't a football game. People are responsible for their own actions as individual, not for the actions of "a team". There were numerous incidents that night, some concerning groups of people clashing with each other, but also what the police described as "hit and run" attacks on individuals.
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@NikkMikk Like I said, life isn't a football game, and it isn't one side versus the other. There are individuals who are responsible for their own actions as individuals.
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@NikkMikk You make a lot of assumption about me. Celebrating the death of children is despicable behavior, but so is assaulting random individuals because they happen to have the same ethnicity as those chanting those horrible things.
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@NikkMikk Lets say a group of arab men were celebrating oct 7th, and in response people would go into the streets looking for random arab men and beat them up... would you have the same stance? Or would you condemn both those things?
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0:45 Indisputably? We know there had been calls to violence before that. The chants were also in Hebrew, which makes it highly unlikely any of the attackers actually knew what they were saying. There were clashes between groups of hooligans and others, but there were also assault on individuals in what the attackers themselves described as a "jew hunt". If that isn't antisemitism, what is?
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@UltraMaccabi_Natzis Covering what is happening? Yes. Objectively? No. While AJ does not often blatantly present false information, it does happen, and what happens even more is that they present incomplete information, often providing a misleading narrative.
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