Comments by "" (@alanna_weiss) on "Why I Give Abortions | Minutes With | @LADbible TV" video.

  1. Well said.
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  2. She's right. Any reason is fine, a woman shouldn't even have to state one. Just her wish is enough.
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  3. 1. Pizza is food. 2. Porridge is food. 3. Porridge is pizza.
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  4. Most of those who had an abortion don't have any regret.
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  5. It comes whenever the fuck you want.
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  6. Writing comments on youtube should only be available to people with college degree.
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  7. I would love to have 10 billion bucks, so stop spending your money on things i don't like and give it to me instead. What kind of logic it is? It doesn't matter what you want, nobody owes you a human pet.
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  8. Or maybe you believe that a woman should pop children out non-stop until she's dead or unable to get pregnant? I'd rather not enter this world at all than live like this.
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  9. If having an abortion is "banning someone from being born" then using a condom or abstinence are doing this too. The end result is the same. What's the difference?
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  10. I have a feeling that you are trying to present what YOU believe as some sort of universal truth. But it's not.
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  11. Do you know what Hitler an Stalin had in common? They both outlawed abortion in their countries. Who's "like nazis" there again? 🤣 Keep your imaginary friends out of my uterus.
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  12. Yes, what about them? It's like consuming a gallon of soda every day. It's stupid and unhealthy, but it's your right to do it.
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  13. Stop projecting.
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  14. The same sentence? Like i'll be spared entering the world full of misery and get a free ticket to heaven? Because that's what happens to aborted fetuses according to your own beliefs.
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  15. Gifts are not supposed to torture you and damage your health, did you know that? The father's role in the whole process is limited to a small drop of a certain liquid left inside another person's body. He doesn't sacrifice anything. He doesn't risk anything. He doesn't lose anything in case of abortion aside from the above-mentioned drop of liquid, probably not the last one in his life. I could say this is not the reason to be heartbroken but who am i to tell you how to feel? That's your business. But why do you think you should be given the right to for. ce another person to go through hell? Because you share some genes with an embryo? That's irrelevant. It's a woman's choice not because of the genes but because it's tied to her body. You can discuss it with your wife, you can divorce her if you don't like her choice, but the final decision is hers.
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  16. A lot of things can be, but should they? If you state that the life of the mother should be prioritized you thereby admit that the mother is more important and valuable than the fetus. That's what every pro choicer would tell you as well. The difference between us is in degrees. I think that it's not only the mother's life, but also her well-being and freedom of choice are more important than the life of a mindless clump of cells.
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  17. But i totally can. Why not? Is there a better way to deal with a mistake than simply undoing it? 95% of women who had abortions don't regret it.
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  18. Tell this "person" to find another source of food. Nobody gave it permission to be where it is and to do what it does.
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  19. Let's imagine i gave you $100 by mistake and then took it back before you even realized. Can this be considered robbery? Abortion doesn't need any justification. It's my fundamental right to take back what's mine. It's not even relevant how many abortion patients are rape victims, even if rape didn't exist at all it wouldn't change anything. Though i've never seen where this number comes from, so i wouldn't take it seriously anyway.
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  20.  @MegaBeast18  I wish there was a coherent thought behind your position, not just emotions.
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  21. ​ @jaidensprout  Clearly you don't know much about nature. I mean real nature, not one from disney movies. But that aside, emotionally pressuring those who already under huge pressure is just cruel and won't help anyone regardless of the outcome. This pathetic emotional manipulation wouldn't reach those women with dozens of abortions on the record you won't shut up about. It wouldn't even reach me cause i never wanted or particularly liked kids and i sincerely do not consider some mindless piece of organic tissue being worth my emotions heartbeat or not. I think i'd even counter attack by making some dark joke like "medium rare please". The only person that who might be affected by it is the one who already is a victim in the whole situation, who already feel terrible about what has to be done. If "pro lifers" think that bullying such a person is a great achievement then it says a lot about them. Just a bunch of petty sadists, that's who you are.
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  22. If i get pregnant i'll get a grip on reality, take some responsibilty and have an abortion. Thanks for your advice, sweetie.
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  23. How many women died giving birth? Their lives are infinitely more valuable.
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  24. If you don't want to get robbed don't leave the house. I'm so sick of this kind of idiocy.
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  25.  @cordsman  Then she can un-produce it if the wants, returning reality to its previous state.
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  26. Her "whims" is the only thing that matters.
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  27. Most women do not regret having an abortion. Those who do wanted a child but had to terminate their pregnancy due to circumstances.
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  28. Because not everyone dreams about being a mother at 15 maybe? Give it some thought.
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  29. One day, religion will become a distant memory, and its extemely rare remaining cases will be treated as a mental disorder it really is. Sad that none of us will live long enough to see it.
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  30. "You only have value if you do as i say" 🤣Sorry but i see no "true dignity" in being a walking cannon fodder factory.
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  31. Maybe because "he" does not exist.
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  32. Gladly. Though my answers will not be anywhere near what you're expecting. 1. That actually depends on your definitions of "killing" and "human being". You know, a name is just a label. A relatively short sequence of letters that is used instead of long descriptions. The meaning behing the name can be important, but the name itself isn't. Moreover, in different contexts the same name can mean completely different things. The notions of a "field" in agriculture and in quantum physics have nothing in common despite being labeled with the same sequence of letters. So if you want to bring up the "human being" definition from biology (as "pro lifers" usually do) you have to prove that it has any connection to ethics. 2. Life started about 3 billion years ago, and just continues itself since then. There's nothing special about fertilization, gametes are not any less alive than a zygote. Do you know what a spermicide is? It's a substance that kills sperms. Yes, they ARE alive. Does it change your position? Probably not. Same for me. 3. I don't know the actual data, and neither do you (unless you can provide the source for your numbers of course). And what's more important, it doesn't matter. The only reason anyone should be concerned about is "i want an abortion".
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  33. I usually hear stories like "i came to abortion clinic and there was a large group of pro lifers picketing in front of it, they tried to physically pull me away from the entrance and blocked the door with their bodies, so my husband/boyfriend had to intervene to help me". Cannot blame him in this particular case to be honest.
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  34.  @ashlovesmaker  Yeah, it's not natural. Just like, i don't know, youtube. Which doesn't stop any of us from using it.
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  35. Your idea of responsibility is dubious at best. Why should i be responsible for something i never agreed to? Consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy. If i left my door open for ANY reason it doesn't mean you may enter, let alone taking something that belongs to me and using it as you please.
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  36. If we eat cucumbers, how can we tell other people not to eat one another? - Unknown mental patient
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  37.  @zzzo4509  Without real evidence my word is as good as anyone else's.
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  38. Good thing that it doesn't exist
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  39.  @jaidensprout  I'm talking about the physical damage it causes to the woman's body. Abortion is safer for sure. A miscarriage might get caused by external reasons as well, the only difference is that it's usually not intentional.
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  40. Meanwhile in reality: "Let's take away people's bodily autonomy and throw them in jail for exercising it"
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  41.  @blancaberumen5537  Why would people deprive themselves of one of the best things in life? For what? Who would benefit from that? And before you say "the baby", ask yourself how it is "beneficial" to never exist. If you don't exist, you cannot be a beneficiary because there's no "you". There's no ethical difference between getting pregnant and then having an abortion on the one hand and not getting pregnant on the other. If you believe one of those is okay then the other is okay too.
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  42. Giving birth is way more risky.
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  43.  @emptyblank099a  So if you can choose the color of your socks you don't need any other choice in your life?
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  44.  @binkybonky3238  No true scotsman would disagree with you, i get it 🤣 But you're not the only one who knows people who've had an abortion. Maybe it's not the most pleasant medical procedure in the world but people rarely regret it. Maybe because they had a strong reason from the beginning.
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  45. Of course she is doing something good. I bet her patients are grateful to her.
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  46. Abortion is not a problem, silly. Poverty is.
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  47.  @fluermor..  Yes, biology is biology. And identity is identity.
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  48. Exactly, life is too short to waste it on things like unwanted pregnancy.
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  49.  @awakeninguntotruth3060  "The leading biologist"? Who the fk this person is? 🤣 Do you really think there is some kind of pope in science? That's the most stupid thing i've heard in a month, which includes Trump's "let's paint chinese flags on our jets and bomb russia so they will think it's china"
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  50. Lots of terrestrial species do these things. Don't project your ignorance on some abstract "space agency". Oh, and we aren't "designed".
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  51. A sperm is life too then. But that does not concern anyone.
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  52. People having casual sex for pleasure is not an issue, it's a norm.
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  53. How many women have died giving birth? Once you're pregnant abortion is the least harmful option you have.
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  54. A good reminder not to trust anything with religion in its name.
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  55.  @Ridgegetsreal777  Well obviously no one should be judged for their skin color but where's the connection?
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  56.  @Ridgegetsreal777  I defend my safety, my freedom and my quality of life. And not only mine but that of all the women of the world.
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  57. Men are entitled to bodily autonomy. Nobody can take your kidney (why, having two kidneys instead of one is only about CONVENIENCE, isn't it?) to save someone else without your permission. So yeah, it IS equality. Nobody can use my body without my permission in any way whatsoever, even if their life depends on it.
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  58. Attaching itself to someone's body without permission can be considered trespassing or rape depending on how you look at it. And if i tried to do to you what pregnancy and birth does to a woman's body you'd shoot me on the spot and you'd be right about it. I have the right to defend myself against such nightmare too.
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  59. There's absolutely nothing beautiful about pregnancy.
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  60. And by reality you mean the level of your surprise?
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  61. I'd choose hell too. Much better company.
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  62. Keep your god out of my uterus, thank you.
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  63. Yeah, sure, no emotions. Totally unbiased approach, just like the channel title suggests. I've got one single question to that little example of shameless propaganda: so what? Your hair colour is determined at fertilization, but your personality traits are determined much later. Which one is more important?
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  64.  @shawnboahene5231  "definitely needs" because?.. Justify your need for justification.
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  65. Oh, and we know this number from?.. And what number do you need to start giving a damn? Abortion does not need justification. We mention rape because its victims need special protection and will be hurt the most in case abortion becomes illegal, not because other women are not important.
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  66. If you're "pro life" about your own pregnancy it's ok. But if you think the other women's right to choose can be denied then you're anti choice. Duh.
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  67. The immune system kills every second to keep you alive.
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  68. Not every life is worth cherishing. The choice of actual people are much more important.
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  69. You kill every second to stay alive without even thinking about it. Your immune system does it for you. So what?
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  70.  @littlepinkcactus  Thanks 😄 I can only hope that it's not only fun put also helps someone somewhere.
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  71.  @RS54321  It's pretty simple really. You think the word "women" means something biological but she doesn't, to her it's identity and a social role. You may not agree with that, but she does not contradict any facts by simply using other definitions than you. Definitions are not facts.
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  72. People can't be pregnant? Interesting, never knew that.
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  73. Did you know that "period" doesn't actually make you more convincing?
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  74. You mean like you would in any other country that, you know, makes sense in terms of healthcare? 🤣 Yeah, good fkin question. Next time you'll probably ask why can't you just go to the hospital with your health issue without worrying who's gonna pay the bills, and why the healthcare system in the US has more in common with Africa than it does with Europe. I don't know how much truth is in these accusation, and i definitely know better than to trust you by a word, but do you know that abortion is not synonymous with PP? It's far from being the only abortion provider even in the US, and people in other countries have no idea what it is. Criticizing PP on sanitary standards (no matter if this criticism is justified or not) takes you nowhere in terms of criticizing abortion itself. As for the word "baby", you know, i haven't worked at PP a day in my life, but after so many conversations with "pro lifers" this word makes me cringe. Every time i hear it i have a feeling that i'm being emotionally manipulated. So i stopped using it.
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  75. ​ @ashlovesmaker  Let me be a little more straightforward then. Whether something is "natural" or not does not mean a thing. "Natural" does not equal "good", "unnatural" does not equal "bad". There's nothing more natural than death itself. Are we clear? "It's not natural" is not an argument.
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  76. Don't forget to compare it to live birth videos, especially if there are complications.
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  77. How much have you paid to a woman who went through hell to give birth to YOUR child?
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  78. If an embryo is a proof of rape then abortion record with dna sample will do as well. Forcing a victim to go through hell of unwanted pregnancy won't help anything.
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  79. Fine. Leave us alone until then, ok?
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  80. Nah.
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  81. 1. Abortion doesn't need any excuses. 2. A significant fraction of unwanted pregnancies happen to those who did in fact take precautions. Birth control can fail. It reduces the chance of getting pregnant but does not eliminate it. 3. Have you ever tried to get sterilized while being young, unmarried and childless? Maybe i would do that but unfortunately it's not so fkin easy. And what's even more important is that it can fail too. 4. Who would benefit from my abstinence? Not me that's for sure. Getting pregnant and then having an abortion is no different from not getting pregnant outside of some possible negative effects on your health. So why miss one of the most pleasant things in life? Using contraception is a good idea though, but we still need abortion as our last line of defence.
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  82. Lots of people secretly hate their children and make their life miserable. Unwanted pregnancy is a terrible thing. Instead of one happy person you get two unhappy ones. There's no winner.
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  83.  @Raxs0G  I thought i was perfectly clear.
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  84. There's no such thing as pregnancy that doesn't harm you physically. Not every medieval torture method is as cruel as chilldbirth.
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  85.  @wormcultist6637  Abortion is the most responsible thing you can possibly do about an unwanted pregnancy. The earlier the better. It doesn't need excuses.
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  86. Thank you.
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  87. You can't blame people for being excited about a wanted pregnancy. It's like calling your spouse "honey". When you do that you don't mean that they're actual honey, it's just to show affection.
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  88. Sorry sweetie but the inqui. sition is no longer there.
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  89. It doesn't matter how many times you say this magic phrase you won't be able take our right to choose from us.
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  90.  @jaidensprout  Do you know what's much more traumatic than abortion? Giving birth. Welcome to the real world again.
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  91.  @jaidensprout  "Hey google what is a miscarriage?"
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  92. Nice strawman.
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  93. ​ @MusicVidsLife  YOU can do whatever you want with your own body, but dont expect ME to eat tide pods with you.
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  94. Your health will be better after an abortion than after giving birth. Therefore abortion IS healthcare.
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  95. Treatment of an infectious disease involves killing the pathogens 🤷‍♀
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  96. Stop projecting.
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  97. Not synonymous, but there's no contradiction. To cure an infectious disease you have to k. ill the pathogenes.
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  98.  @aimiec2241  Sigh. What grade did you have in your math class? 600 people means that the standard error is about 0.5/sqrt(600) = 0.02 at worst. Which means it's maybe not enough to distinguish 50% probability from 51% but it's more than enough to distinguish 5% from 10%, let alone 5% from 80%. This sample size is large enough to say what i've said. Your "more than i can count" is probably way less than that. And what's much more important your sample is obviously biased. There are almost a million abortions per year in the us alone, it would be weird if there weren't few dozens of women with negative experience that you've met in person. These programs of yours will never show you thousands of those who don't regret anything.
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  99. Everyone should be able to access abortion without stating their reasons. No exception needed.
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  100. True. But i think one more remark is necessary. Even if 100% of abortions in the world happened because a woman just doesn't feel like it, that would not change anything from ethical point of view. Bodily autonomy is the basic human right, and anyone can exercise it however and whenever they fkin want.
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  101.  @cordsman  Don't worry about me, my ability to get the procedure without leaving my neighbourhood does not depend on roe v wade, and even in the worst case scenario i can afford to travel to the other side of the globe and get it there if necessary. But sadly not every woman in this country is as privileged as me. Countless lives will be ruined.
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  102.  @cordsman  If this "human being" is just a piece of organic tissue with no trace of self awareness and this "murder" is the only way to spare the real person of torture, health damage and social repercussions i have absolutely no problem with it.
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  103.  @cordsman  Call it whatever you want sweetie.
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  104. Crazy person: The more times i use the word 'kill' the more convincing i am Me: Hmm... No
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  105. ​ @walterkersting1362  Hahaha. Well first, not exactly the same. I never did anything like that after all. And by making this argument you're obviously expecting me to understand that this is a bad thing to do, celestial daddy or not. Second, for some mysterious reason your celestial daddy didn't stop him, i.e. once again did exactly what "he" would do if "he" didn't exist OR had no problem with things happened that day. Third, i wouldn't be surprised at all if it turned out Paddock considered himself christian and did it to punish sinners or whatever. After all, there are old testament prophets who killed tenfold more people than him for similar reasons. There are acts of genocide directly sanctioned by god. Or even performed by "him" - like nuking two cities for having sex wrong, or that hilarious story where "he" drowned 99% of humanity because it was slightly more convenient to "him" than teaching them to be better, though it's not even mentioned what exactly they did wrong. Life is sacred my ass. And even in the new testament there's no single WORD of condemnation for sla very. Or rape for that matter. Fornication is condemned and even severely punished, but not rape. Point is, if THAT is the one true morality, we're all screwed. And i'm really glad it's not, because it allowed us to grow better than this. Better from our point of view, of course. Ancient romans would say that we're weirdos for abolishing something as natural as sla very. And the only reason you may POSSIBLY think that sla very is wrong and should not exist even for a second while Jesus urged slaves to obey their masters is because Jesus is not the REAL source of your morality. The real source is your feelings. You feel that sla very is wrong. You feel that mass murder is wrong, despite prophet Elisha had 42 children killed just for calling him bald. And most people today feel that too. There's no such thing as objective morality, your feeling of right and wrong belongs to your brain, not to reality, but it's not completely random. Humans are social animals and evolved as such. We have tools in our brain that make peaceful coexistence possible, like empathy or conformity. In some people such tools are broken or poorly calibrated, and that's why we need the police and the courts. But it doesn't mean we need to establish one arbitrary set of morals supposedly introduced by a powerful wizard living on a cloud as the eternal dogma. Because first, it would be terrible in terms of social progress, and second, it wouldn't help anyway. Your dogma would be just as easily discarded as any other arbitrary choice when people's actual feelings tell them otherwise.
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  106. The only thing that is "unique" there is genome. And genome itself has no value. I am not my genes.
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  107. Says who?
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  108. Hell doesn't exist. Welcome to reality.
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  109.  @60seconds529  Oh, just ignore it. I doubt this youtube account is even controlled by a real person, as it only spams the same nonsense under every comment.
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  110. ​ @DuskSunDawn  Expelling something that uses your body without your permission is pretty much proportional.
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  111. "The moon is made of swiss cheese. Sometimes the astronaut goes home and hours later a piece of tilsiter falls off his boot". Why don’t these animals just provide the source for their BS?
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  112. Ok.
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  113. Ok, good luck convincing any infectious disease to leave you alone.
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  114. What's the difference between two pieces of dna being spatially separated and them being placed alongside each other? What should be the distance between two chromosomes for you to start giving a damn? Exactly.
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  115.  @N81999  I think i said what makes the difference. It's your mind, abstract thinking, self-awareness. All those properties that you attribute to the "soul". This is far from the first time i'm having this discussion, so here's a simple set of principles i came up with some time ago that solves the problem completely. 1. Being sentient is what makes you valuable. The welfare of a sentient being, be it a human, an alien, a strong AI, a mythical creature (ghost/vampire/etc) or anything else, comes first. 2. Some things that are not sentient beings can be considered conventionally valuable if that does not violate #1 A human infant doesn not fall under #1 until the age of 2 or 3 approximately, #2 is available up from birth but not earlier as that would violate #1 for the mother.
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  116.  @N81999  When you say "It’s someone else’s body not yours" what do you mean by "it"? It's not like a pregnant person ceases to have body just because she's pregnant. Her body is still there, and nothing can use it without her permission. And if something tries she can demand immediate separation. No, consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy, don't even start this BS. Spare me "consequences", "responsibility" and other stupid buzzwords. And no, if you got pregnant it doesn't mean you had unprotected sex.
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  117.  @N81999  Patriarchy is when you're denied the right to make even somewhat significant decisions about your own life without man's approval, a man makes all the actual decisions and whether he's going to ask YOU what you want is up to his good will. Because who needs to have a say in anything really when you have "more honorable things", like washing dishes for example, right? And if that man beats the sh. it out of you don't worry because it's not a "true patriarchy". Oh right, what a relief, my broken nose doesn't hurt anymore in this case. But yeah, god will punish him for sure, not now though and not in any way you (or him) would notice until you're dead, so good luck enduring this for the rest of your life because divorce is against god. Patriarchy is when your best bet is to hope for a good master who will choose for you what you'd choose for yourself if you, like, could. That's why women need power. Not to abuse it, i never wanted that. But you know what i want even less than that? Right, to be abused while having absolutely no means to do something about it except waiting for a fkin prince in shining armor who may as well turn out to be another tyrant. We need power to protect ourselves and to shape our own destiny without relying on men's good will. There's not much of it anyway as one can judge by those parts of the worlds where patriarchy is still at its full strength. All this talk about how "different but equal" we are is for the fools too. When someone has the power and someone doesn't it's the opposite of equality. THAT is the sugar coating, and a pretty lazy one. Like, "yeah yeah sure whatever, you're equal n'sh. it, now shut up and do as i say". To hell with it. I don't need a good master, i need freedom. I don't want anyone to die for me, i want control over my own life. I'm a protagonist of my own story, not a fkin "helpmate". I never chose this role.
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  118.  @N81999  That actually makes much more sense than christianity itself, at least it explains celibacy and what altar boys are for. But even in this version i'm not buying it. Thanks to secular humanism i'm a free person now and i love it. I will not obey my husband (if i ever decide to have one that is) or any other man, including that imaginary man in the sky. And i'd rather be "neglected" (whatever that means) than turned into a breeding slav. e, like billions of women over the centuries who weren't lucky enough to be born in a secular society. Your reign will be over, sooner rather than later. Justice and reason will prevail, and our descendants won't even know what "religion" is unless they are historians or psychiatrists. "Amen".
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  119.  @N81999  No seriously, i'd like to hear your versions. What, this thing in your pants is a divine antenna of some sort? Does it have to be at its full length when you pray? 🤣
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  120.  @N81999  And it's only the beginning, when god has an offspring what gender they are? When "his" son has disciples how come that they are full sausage party too? Even today only men can be priests in most christian denominations. Forget fetus-shmetus stuff, try to defend that.
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  121.  @N81999  If it was something real what would it even mean? Does "he" have something between "his" legs and how many inches are there? It's like if a math textbook stated that an integral tastes like a lemon. But it's clear as day what it means as a fairytale, it means that men are somehow "more similar" to god than women and therefore superior. How fkin convenient.
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  122.  @N81999  Even the god of their invention is male. Think about it for a second, how nonsensical this can possibly be?
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  123. Yeah, and before that her dad probably didn't use a condom. No difference to me. If using a condom or abstaining is okay then abortion is okay too.
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  124.  @stephh_dude4812  They are kinda cute when they are not screaming their guts out i guess, but beautiful? Nah. Adult people are beautiful.
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  125. Being aware of the risks is not the same as accepting them obediently without even trying to fight.
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  126. Pregnant person is a patient, not "baby"
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  127.  @jasnajasmine7872  Human or not it can't use me as a source of food without my permission. Can i eat your liver? Or drink your blood? Thought so.
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  128.  @kevindietrich3759  Heard it all before, try something that does not require me believing these are not empty threats as a prerequisite. You can also try to convince me that your god is more real than than the other 999999 gods and goddesses invented by humanity.
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  129.  @kevindietrich3759  I'll regret this terribly when this good and just god of yours will torture me for eternity for not believing in "him".
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  130.  @kevindietrich3759  Sigh. Yeah-yeah, you're a smarty pants for believing in unicorns and i'm a fool for asking for evidence.
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  131. You can believe in your imaginary friends if you want but keep them away from my uterus, thank you.
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  132.  @coba23513  It's not like a newborn gets any value DIRECTLY because of its physical separation from its mother. It just stops getting in the way of the mother's value that is far more important, so we can assign some conventional value to it too if we so desire. It still can't survive on its own but basically anyone can take care of it from that moment. Its survival no longer involves holding anyone hostage.
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  133.  @coba23513  You see, a conception is not exactly "the instant". It's a continuous process that has nonzero duration. There's a certain amount of time between "a sperm first touches an egg" and "the first cell division of a zygote". Which moment between those two marks the difference in your opinion? I think you'll have trouble answering. The reason for that is that, you see, there's no such thing as "instant change" in reality. It's continuous in both time and space. We humans prefer to operate with binary statements, but that's a property of our description of reality, not of reality itself. The map, not the territory. Therefore, any exact moment you choose will be arbitrary and conventional, and you won't be able to answer questions like "why not one nanosecond earlier/later". A convention of my choice is the moment when the navel cord is cut. That's when it becomes a truly SEPARATE organism.
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  134. Ctrl+z is the best possible answer to a revertable mistake if you ask me. Not every mistake is revertable like that, but this kind is.
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  135.  MsMissy  What's that supposed to mean?
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  136. Your god should stop shoving "all those babies" into people who don't want it. Otherwise "he" shouldn't act surprised when they are sent back to "him".
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  137. It would be such a shame if that never happened 🤣
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  138. ​ @andreaz3223  Life does not begin at fertilization.
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  139.  @andreaz3223  Life began only once on this planet and it was 3 billion years ago. It continues to sustain itself since then. Gametes are alive too. Do you know what spermicide is? It's a substance that kills sperms. It needs to be alive in order to kill it.
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  140. ​ @Cartierian  Since youtube does not allow links, mind giving me the full title of the article in question?
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  141. Let's do the math together. Let's assume that 20% of population are women of reproductive age which gives us something like 1.2 million. Let's assume that only 1 out of 3 in this group is sexually active, and ALL of them got tubal ligation. Not a condom, not a pill, a permanent sterilization method. Its failure rate is 0.5% = 1/200 per year. 1200000/3/200 = 2000 pregnancies per year. Even under this outrageously unrealistic assumption that the whole country is sterilized. The failure rate of a hormonal pill in real world is 14 times higher (7%), of a condom - 26 times higher (13%), which gives us 28000 and 52000 pregnancies per year respectively. And again, it's under an assumption that EVERYONE uses the respective method. 700000 abortions over 50 years is 14000 per year. It's not a "horrendously high number", it's pretty reasonable number, it's even a bit on the lower side.
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  142.  @fuckgoogle93  That means you also murder them millions at a time 😆
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  143. Supposed by whom? 🤣 Your prejudices are definitely not our problem. Go and "create life" somewhere else, inside your own body for example.
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  144.  @deborahwhitney9427  She did it to make a very specific point, and she didn't say anything that contradicts any scientific facts. If you don't like it that's another story.
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  145. Did SHE say "biological"?
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  146.  @iamxevicho5170  How is that discrimination? If i said it should not be allowed to treat prostate cancer because god is watching you would be reasonably upset. You don't get to make a decision if it's not about you and you won't bear its costs.
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  147. Let's imagine i gave you $100 by mistake and then took it back before you even realize what happened. Does it mean that i'm "not allowing you to have $100 against your free will"?
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  148. I guess it's only "amazing" if you want it.
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  149. They keep fai. ling at growing out of a medieval prejudice that one should have pen. is to be a priest. It's naive to expect them to change their ways about something as tough as abortion when they can't even do that much.
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  150. Who's saying this?
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  151. Though most people who have had an abortion are fine. I think even more of them would be fine if they weren't harassed by religious shitheads.
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  152. Ok, let's go. 1) Well, go and ask it. Seriously though, when your PERSONAL rights are on the line you don't have to ask anyone's permission, even if they are also affected by your decision. To marry someone you need their consent, but you don't need one to divorse. 2) It doesn't matter if it's alive or human. It only matters if it's an actual person, with unique thoughts, memories and experience. A human child do not posess personhood untill the age of 2 or 3. There's no one single moment of time when it happens, the process is gradual. ANY moment you pick would be conventional, the moment of birth seems like the best choice to me. 3) There are conditions that justify eutanasia even for actual people. Though it's not an essential argument for abortion. 4) You are not preventing the abuse, you're enforcing it. You can't decide for a pregnant person EVEN if you're willing to raise the child. Abortion is more than that. 5) Abortion is not really about "ending life". It's more like eviction. You can't use my body as a source of food without my permission. Period. Pay the rent or gtfo. This way i don't decide for you, i decide for what undeniably belongs to me. You on the other hand have every right to do whatever you want with anything that belongs to YOU, somewhere far away from my uterus. That is even if we talk about an actual person which is not the case. The only thing that is irreversibly lost upon abortion is the combination of genes. It's not worth the suffering of a real person unless that person specifically WANTS it. What's natural and what's not is irrelevant.
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  153. Stop using fictional characters to justify your desire to control others.
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  154.  @RS54321  Did she say "biological"?
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  155.  @deborahwhitney9427  You can deny an egg its chance to become a zygote but you can't deny a zygote its chance to become an infant? Why? Because it has twice as many chromosomes? I mean it's literally the only difference between them.
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  156.  @deborahwhitney9427  Oh, and which one of my arguments relies on the idea that you can get pregnant from a handshake? "Pro lifers" on the internet can't shut up about how i shouldn't have sex at all if i don't want kids. So i'm asking - what's the difference?
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  157. I can easily like something while not forcing everyone around me to have it 🤷‍♀ What's the problem?
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  158.  @Dleefrlula  Yeah, blood, tearing flesh and screams of pain are exactly what i imagine when i hear the word "okay".
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  159.  @DuskSunDawn  It's not like i care about her reasons. I'm asking about something completely different. Children in the orphanage didn't appear out of thin air, someone sacrificed their beauty, their health (both physical and mental), their time, endured literal torture for her to come and pick one. And now she takes it for granted and tries to lecture others. Why shoud other women go through this crap for nothing in return (and even pay significant amounts of money out of their own pockets) so that you can have your human pet for free? It's ridiculous.
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  160. But she is. She helps those who needs help, who asks for help, who'd actually suffer if she didn't help them. She's a better person than your god.
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  161. Depends on a definition.
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  162. Basically you just need to have an intact brain to be able to tell the difference between a wanted pregnancy and an unwanted one. Abortion is healthcare.
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  163.  @nathanocasio5758  Honestly i don't know. I see abrahamic god as the ultimate tyrant and oppressor, and i find the thought of complying to "him" revolting. It's infinitely worse than serving hitler, at least his victims suffered for a finite amount of time. But there's a not unsignificant chance that i would be too afraid of eternal torture myself to uphold my principles. It's safe to say that i would become either a christian or an anti-christian. There would be no place for indifference anymore.
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  164. For those who think everyone around believes in the same fairytales as them: think again 🥱
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  165. If a woman thinks she needs an abortion then she needs it.
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  166. "So if they want to shove a watermelon up your as. s for no reason why don't you bring some lube?".
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  167. It's good that in some countries women actually have an access to healthcare.
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  168. Abortion definitely preserves the QUALITY of life. That is also healthcare.
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  169. ​ @debbieflaherty1975  Hahaha. What i'm "smoking" is the basic ability for abstract thinking. Ever heard of that?
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  170.  @debbieflaherty1975  How is it benificial to never exist in a first place? Don't you understand how self-contradictory this is? If you don't exist there's no one to benefit from anything.
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  171.  @maltal8352  So that your "you will not regret" statement is wrong. That's all. I don't know what's "deserve to be dead". We lock some people up in prison not because they "deserve" or "don't deserve" something, we do that because it makes our society safer and yes, more convenient. Death penalty is just redundant. There's no situation when it's better than life sentence, and it's significantly worse in many aspects. But there's no better alternative for abortion, in fact there's no alternative at all. If you are already pregnant and your goal is to avoid giving birth, it's your only option. When someone invents a way of having children that does not involve holding a woman hostage for a year and then subjecting her to torture that will probably damage her health irreversibly at least in some way - then we can discuss whether an embryo posesses human rights or not. Until then - sorry.
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  172.  @Raxs0G  Taking back your money you gave someone by mistake is not robbery.
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  173.  @Raxs0G  In simple words it's not even a killing. Not in any sense that bears ethical significance.
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  174. Sorry, but "keep your god out of my uterus" is not extremism.
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  175. ​ @wormcultist6637  Sure. You can die for whatever cause you want or without any reason whatsoever. That's your right. I'd rather live a long and happy life, and that's my right.
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  176. ​ @wormcultist6637  By having any abortion you take care of your health, your time, your money. Of course it's a responsible choice. Just sitting there and waiting for the problem to resolve itself is irresponsible.
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  177. ​ @wormcultist6637  I'm not trying to make it law that you can't leave comments i disagree with. Only "pro lifers" don't seem to be able to distinguish their beliefs and reality.
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  178. None of your business.
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  179. Did she say "biological"? And if she didn't why are you assuming this? Talk about "rtrdd thinking".
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  180.  @ursweetsab  Nah, just a regular venus symbol 🤷‍♀
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  181. ​ @ursweetsab  Cute. I'll take it as your confession of hypocrisy.
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  182.  @ursweetsab  "But if they do, those 'feral children' should be killed despite them being innocent humans and stuff"
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  183. ​ @ursweetsab  Soooo... You think it's okay to kill people based of their looks?
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  184.  @ursweetsab  That's just factually incorrect. It doesn't matter if genetics is poor or rich, life begins exactly at the same time. But you don't care about it, do you? And if you don't you're not allowed to pretend that you do when we talk about other cases.
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  185. "life begins at conception unless the parents are related by blood"? 🤣
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  186. You’re misinformed/disinformed Opinion is not in the equation when it comes to other person exercising their bodily autonomy. There was no "me" at the time abortion was possible. Being aborted is no different from not being conceived at all, but the latter doesn't bother you.
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  187. How many women have died giving birth?
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  188.  @elJossu  I suppose that simply means that you don't like me 🤣
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  189. Welcome to the 21 century btw.
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  190. And her christmas presents too i guess 🤣
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  191.  @Xaltov  Depends on your definition of "people". But regardless of that, abortion actually saves the health of the patient. Therefore it's healthcare by definition. If you don't like it for your own subjective reasons that's another story.
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  192. It is 🤷‍♀
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  193. That's not how statistics works. If no one wanted a child every pregnancy would be terminated and vice versa, regardless of how effective pills are. You just can't compare those numbers.
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  194.  @dvilsadvocate1498  Do you know what anecdotal evidence is?
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  195.  @dvilsadvocate1498  I've never seen any actual data regarding this correlation. My guess is that it's the other way around. People with bad hygiene are less exposed to STDs as they don't get laid.
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  196.  @dvilsadvocate1498  Good luck showering to get rid of a flu 😆
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  197.  @dvilsadvocate1498  STDs have nothing to do with everyday hygiene 😆 That's not how it works. If you could prevent them simply by taking a shower that would be a wonderful world to live.
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  198.  @dvilsadvocate1498  About the same way you can be responsible when you have a flu 🤷‍♀
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  199.  @dvilsadvocate1498  But if you ever get an STD you'll be allowed to cure it, won't you? Nobody will say you should suffer. That's my point. I never said infecting other people is a good thing. That's not what a responsible person generally do. But i don't get it how STDs are worse or more "immoral" than any other kind of disease.
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  200.  @dvilsadvocate1498  Well, most STDs are curable, and so is unwanted pregnancy. Unless you try to restrict people's access to the treatment, most of your "horrible" things become minor inconveniences, and the rest are extremely improbable. It's like saying going outside is bad because of covid.
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  201.  @dvilsadvocate1498  There's nothing horrible about sex though, unless you're a relidiot.
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  202.  @dvilsadvocate1498  So it's not about "muwdewing babyf" after all. You just want young girls to suffer for having sex. Thanks for openly admitting that.
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  203. Oh, they would totally abstain just because you told them to. That's exactly how teenagers work, without any doubt. Why should they though? To please stu. pid old prudes?
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  204. Well not that i'm against that. But i don't think it's realistic, because of how male body works. A menstrual cycle is controlled by hormones, by taking birth control pills you simply adjust the mechanism that already exists in your body. Men have no equivalent of that. There's no hormone that would stop sperm production, at least in concentrations that can be considered even somewhat safe for your health. Men already have a safe, cheap and reliable option that outperforms everything women have at their disposal on at least two of these three characteristics. It's vasectomy. Men just don't bother using it as they believe that unwanted pregnancies are not their problem.
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  205.  @blancaberumen5537  No. Difference. It's just like pressing ctrl+z.
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  206. Actually i only hear "pro lifers" talking about species in this debate.
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  207. According to math +1-1=0.
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  208. Do you have any idea how much it costs to give birth in this country? Who's gonna pay for it, you? Then don't hesitate to add appropriate compensation for physical and mental suffering, for ruined health, for wasted time. Then MAYBE adoption will become a viable alternative for SOME women.
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  209. Yeah because OF COURSE all that is because of roe v wade. Why not because of the WTC construction? That was around the same time. And why none of these happened in Sweden that allowed abortion just two years later? Seems like you don't know what you're talking about.
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  210. It doesn't. Not by itself at least. But it shows what kind of people "pro lifers" are. The truth is the last thing they're concerned about, therefore everything they say should be taken with the great scepticism.
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  211. "save babies" somewhere far away from other person's uterus. Thank you.
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  212. Yeah, and male mas. turbation is genoc. ide 🤡
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  213. I have another cold fact for you. When a spider catches its victim it injects it with poison that paralyzes it and then slowly digests it while keeping alive to preserve it for a longer time. And if you're going to ask me "so what?" then this is the exact quesion i want to ask you.
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  214.  @HarrisonTheGrey  You're incredibly cliche. What does viability have to do with what i said? Viable or not, i can detach it from my body whenever i feel like it. A one week old infant is already detached though, so i guess your question is meaningless.
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  215. That's exactly why it can't use her body as a source of food without her permission. Next.
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  216.  @thucydides7849  Sure sweetie, any possible event immediately proves your point including those that contradict each other, nothing short of it.
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  217. But they are pretty much the same. The only difference that in case of abortion you know something is wrong and want to fix it.
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  218.  @Bruh-rp5vk  Of course you can. I have plenty of opinions on various topics too. But trust me, if they become law you won't like it. So stop trying to force yours on me.
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  219. Offering support to those who want kids but cannot afford them is pro life. Harassing people, manipulating them through false information and emotional pseudo-arguments and trying to restrict their basic freedoms is anti choice.
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  220. What, life does not begin at conception in case of r. ape? It's impossible to justify this distinction based on the principle of "every human life is equally valuable".
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  221. Hmm... no, they are not sincere. They're like "life begins at conception so ab. ortion vio. lates the right to live and therefore morally unac. ceptable... unless it's rap. e or inc. est".
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  222. Abortion is not about killing a fetus. It may happen to die, but that's not the goal. The goal is to separate it from the pregnant person's body. No point in doing anything like that when we talk about born children who are already physically separated. But i still can hand them off to someone else. That's called adoption/foster care.
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  223.  @pattrell5257  Do they at least cover the delivery cost and other medical bills? I guess we both know the answer.
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  224.  @pattrell5257  Oh, and how much do these "cristian adoption agencies" pay to those whose suffering makes their entire business possible?
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  225.  @pattrell5257  If you think i should be forced to go through this under ANY circumstances then i think you should be forced to donate your kidney.
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  226.  @pattrell5257  "The normal agony"? FU. You definitely should feel it for the rest of the life.
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  227. ​ @pattrell5257  So if person A have no intention to kill person B and only wants to torture them a little (or even a lot) they have no right to defend themselves? Good to know. Mind telling me your address? 🤣
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  228. Abortion is self defence 🤷‍♀
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  229.  @elastronaute1198  We survived for a long time without many things. Youtube for example. Or antibiotics. Or universal literacy. It's not an argument.
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  230. ​ @elastronaute1198  She meant that you can have an uterus and therefore be able to get pregnant without identifying as a woman - if you're trans man, for example. It's not that hard to wrap your mind around this logic even if you don't agree with it.
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  231. Obviously she didn't mean "biological" women.
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  232. There's nothing wrong with pleasure without side effects. Oh, and there's no god btw.
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  233.  @glacierheart4680  Do that if you wish. Your body your choice, my body my choice.
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  234.  @greentree730  I know that vast majority of women don't regret their decision to have an abortion. There are studies that confirm this. Your evidence is anecdotal at best. Though i still agree that preventing pregnancy is better than terminating it.
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  235. I don't see how these contradict each other. Try to avoid getting pregnant as best you can, but if you are already pregnant and don't want to be - it's perfectly fine to have an abortion.
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  236. The circumstances being "i'm pregnant and i don't want to be". But i agree, preventing pregnancy is better than terminating it.
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  237. ​ @shanebrownlee69  You're paid for writing youtube comments? That's weird. If that's true then it automatically invalidates your initial point about someone defending something only because of money. And if not then you should probably try actually working at work, otherwise you might have trouble feeding your children in the future.
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  238.  @shanebrownlee69  🤣It takes two to reply to each other, do you know that? You've just attacked yourself.
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  239.  @shanebrownlee69  Sigh. Stop making excuses. If you're not interested in this conversation then simply don't participate. I'm still interested though, but not strongly enough to coddle your wounded ego.
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  240.  @shanebrownlee69  It's not that i care that much anyway 🤷‍♀ Whatever floats your boat.
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  241.  @shanebrownlee69  Your logic would be valid if these two procedures cost the same. Otherwise you can't say that something is less profitable just because it costs more to the provider. And yeah, there are some women who have more abortions in their lifetime than an average mother have children. And there are some mothers who have more children than an average woman have abortions in her lifetime. So? 😅 You can't compare things like that.
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  242.  @shanebrownlee69  You're wrong about this one even if you're pro choice - though the word "conditionally" can mean anything that is not "ban all abortions regardless of the situation", so i don't really know what your position is.
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  243.  @shanebrownlee69  Now, maybe my tone was a bit too agressive, sorry about that. But i get angry really fast when i see that someone repeats one of the most stereotypical "pro life" talking points about evil abortion industry that only cares about profit and that whenever someone says abortion is ok it's definitely a "fraud" and because of money. Though it would be at least understandable if this interview was with someone really big in this industry. But a simple midwife? Ridiculous.
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  244.  @shanebrownlee69  What exactly i'm ignoring? That you have kids? I don't think it's relevant.
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  245.  @shanebrownlee69  As for profitability, sorry but you'll have to bring some actual data to be taken seriously on that.
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  246.  @shanebrownlee69  In reality though there were 3,700,000 births in the us in 2018 and only 800,000 abortions. So much for "countless".
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  247.  @shanebrownlee69  Now if we do some actually advanced math (markov chains) we can calculate that this "COUNTLESS" number of abortions that can be given to a single woman over 9 months span is just 1.5 under an assumption that this woman is purposefully trying for as many abortions as she can - namely, using no contraception at all, picking the most dangerous days to have sex, terminating pregnancy at 4-6 week and then going back to the same way of life. Should i say that this is NOT a typical client of an abortion clinic? 🤣
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  248.  @shanebrownlee69  Nah, it's not about permission. It's about your lack of knowledge. What's "countless"? How many is "countless"? Do you know how menstrual cycle works? Do you know that if you get pregnant you'll miss at least one full cycle because you won't even know you're pregnant before week 4? Do you know that your probability of getting pregnant in a given month is around 20% ASSUMING that you're actively trying to get pregnant?
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  249.  @shanebrownlee69  "Countless" 🤣🤣🤣 You're a man, right?
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  250. The average cost of a first trimester abortion is about 500-600 bucks. Birth will cost you at least 10 times more, and that's just delivery itself, without any other pregnancy-related medical bills (including recovery afterwards). Now do the very advanced math (subtract two numbers) to find out what's more profitable for the industry. The numbers are for the us but they're not that different in the uk. Obviously she switched to abortions to help those who find themselves in a situation of unwanted pregnancy.
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  251. Take care of your own legs. They seem to be jointed to something stupid. You may as well start addressing this particular problem by asking google "what's pearl index?"
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  252. You are still much more likely to die or be maimed in childbirth than in an abortion. I hope you don't think birthing centers are well regulated.
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  253.  @kristijanpavlovic8605  Okay 🤣🤣🤣 We'll get back to your statement "some time in the future". You'll be serving life sentence until then.
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  254.  @kristijanpavlovic8605  And we know that from?..
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  255.  @kristijanpavlovic8605  For the seconds it took you to write this comment your immune system has successfully killed at least few hundreds of beings. Sounds like a life sentence to me.
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  256.  @walterkersting1362  Actually it's less life when i'm dead than when i'm alive. But you're right, there's no purpose and no meaning in the world itself. And it's WONDERFUL, because it means that we are free to invent our own. Why would anyone even NEED to be told what's good or bad? Does the prospect of deciding for yourself seem so terrifying that a celestial daddy who's going to torture you for eternity if you don't do as "he" says sounds nice in comparison? That explains why religious people are so fond of dictators, real ones like Putin or wanna-bes like Trump.
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  257.  @walterkersting1362  Ah, of course. There's no god though. There's no credible evidence of god. But in the end it doesn't even matter, bc god or no god the final moral jugment is yours. You're not obliged to just take other's judgments without thinking, no matter how divine and omnipotent they are. Despite there's no god, i still see your life as valuable. An even if there WAS god saying otherwise it wouldn't change anything to me. You can't use my body without my permission nonetheless, but i would feel bad if you died because of my action or inaction. An embryo is not valuable to me though, it's not an intelligent being, just a biological thing with a certain set of DNA in it. It's not any more precious than a turkey.
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  258.  @walterkersting1362  Universe A where i got pregnant and then had an abortion would not have any less life than universe B where i did none of it. In fact you won't be able to tell the difference between those two universes at all. Therefore, from a consequentionalist perspective, A requires no more conscience than B. But life is not "sacred". It's not even particularly valuable by itself. To most people, a life of a turkey is worth less than their fleeting enjoyment of a thanksgiving dinner. You might say that a human is not like a turkey, and you would be factually right of course. Nothing is like a turkey but turkey itself. And i would even agree that humans are more valuable than turkeys on average. But what do you think MAKES humans more valuable? DNA? I doubt you've ever seen it, and if shown Hitler's DNA and Einstein's DNA you definitely wouldn't be able to tell which is which, though this doesn't stop most people from assigning different ethical values to those two. So it's not DNA that makes the difference. Then what it is?
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  259.  @walterkersting1362  Being able to have sex with a willing partner is pretty damn important, it's one of the reasons people flee Saudi Arabia for Canada and not the other way around. Kermit Gosnell was killing born children, it's not even slightly related to abortion. Yes, he performed abortions as well, but so what? Ted Bundy was a serial killer, and he also worked for the GOP. So what?
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  260.  @walterkersting1362  Of course. There's no moral dilemma even by your own standards. Late term abortions never happen for any reason short of saving a life. Nobody waits till the day before birth and then be like "y'know, i changed my mind, kill it". This just never happens, i've never heard of a single case from reliable sources. And yeah, third trimester abortions are EXTREMELY rare, much rarer than abortions because of rape that you guys usually dismiss.
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  261. Sounds good enough to me. Though i'd argue that this is far from the only case someone might want an abortion.
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  262.  @Glaimc  That's true, you didn't imply that. You said it explicitly, in only slightly different words. dignity noun [ U ] the importance and value that a person has, that makes other people respect them or makes them respect themselves "The Dignity of a woman is on How much of Mother She is" = "all you're good for is popping out kids".
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  263. My dignity has nothing to do with being a walking cannon fodder factory, thank you very much.
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  264.  @BobSmith-pm3wx  I understand that y. our whole worldview revolves around the holy war against sa. tan and other ridiculous cr. ap like this, but trust me, i give exactly as much s. hit about y. our imaginary friends as i do about those of ancient romans. I have no preferences when it comes to fairytales.
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  265.  @BobSmith-pm3wx  Well i'm definitely smarter than y. ou. It doesn't matter who originally used what. The venus symbol was originally used by ancient romans in their religion, but who cares? Today the venus symbol combined with a clenched fist represents the fight for women's rights, and nothing else.
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  266.  @BobSmith-pm3wx  What are you even talking about? 😆
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  267.  @BobSmith-pm3wx  Not every pair of crossing lines has anything to do with christianity. It's the venus symbol.
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  268. ​ @kristoffersunnhordvik7590  In a very limited sense maybe. An adult dog is definitely more of a person than a human embryo. "Human" is just a word too. It doesn't matter to me at all.
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  269.  @kristoffersunnhordvik7590  A person (plural people or persons) is a being that has certain capacities or attributes such as reason, morality, consciousness or self-consciousness, and being a part of a culturally established form of social relations such as kinship, ownership of property, or legal responsibility
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  270. ​ @kristoffersunnhordvik7590  You've got a logical leap from "personhood" to "every human being". Not every "human being" is a person.
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  271. No personhood means no rights. That's just common sense.
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  272.  @Raxs0G  Last "pro lifer" i talked to said that it's less than 1%. Not that i asked him (or you), but your kind seems to think it's a killer argument for some reason. Can you stop making things up for a change and provide an actual source? If you want your killer argument to be taken seriously at all, that is. Ok, let's imagine i'm seriously considering your suggestion to stop having sex. Who would benefit from that? Not me, that's for sure. My life would become significantly less fun. And if you can't name at least one person whose life it would change for the better then it would be a pure loss.
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  273. Yes, why you do that?
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  274.  @Obamayevsky  Actually humanity benefits from abortion.
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  275. No difference from not being conceived at all.
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  276. The word "women" does not always mean "biological women". Biology has no exclusive rights for this word.
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  277. There's no such thing as "harmless pregnancy", let alone "harmless birth". You should understand that if you really have gone through this. Sacrifice your own time and health if you wish so, not mine.
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  278. ​ @ezekiel5687  Oh yeah, volumes. That i'm well educated for example. Even insects have a heartbeat, who gives a cr. ap? A heart is just a blood pump, nothing more.
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  279.  @ezekiel5687  Thing is, if i really only cared about myself i wouldn't be here. My bodily autonomy is perfectly safe from bible mor. ons, which is more than i could say about millions of other girls. Their rights should be protected as good as mine.
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  280.  @ezekiel5687  You can TRY to avoid it, that's right. But sometimes all the odds are stacked against you. Planes keep crashing despite all the safety measures, the only way to escape that is to stop using planes, which is not an option obviously.
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  281. Real empowerment is impossible without putting your own interests first. Whoever tells y. ou anything else just wants y. ou to be a s. l. a. v. e.
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  282.  @ezekiel5687  You can call it mur. der or you can call it cherry pie. Who cares. I still have the right to detach anything from my body whenever i feel like it. Avoiding pregnancy is generally better but it's not always possible.
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  283.  @ezekiel5687  It's not about whose fault it is. It's about my right to decide what's allowed to be attached to my body and what's not. Yes, i have the right to remove anything that is attached to me, no matter what.
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  284.  @daughterofyeshuaa  An embryo, not a "baby". Killing anything is not the goal btw, separation is.
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  285. Pearl index.
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  286.  @BHarly  Its life IS borrowed and by having an abortion i simply take back what's mine.
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  287. It's not like you "pay" something if it was never truly yours. An embryo's life is borrowed.
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  288. Does that apply to your dinner?
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  289. Yes, abortion is healthcare. What about it?
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  290. Souls don't exist. Your god doesn't exist. Pregnancy termination is a basic human right and don't need excuses. If you want someone to endure torture and sacrifice their own time and health to gestate your child for you then you should pay them, reproductive labor is not free. Any questions?
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  291.  @N81999  And yes, i know what "amen" means. I mean even if i didn't i still know how to use google. That's not why it's quoted.
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  292.  @N81999  Now for everything else. No, material world doesn't need god. Simple rules can make complex structures, we have plenty of examples. Modern science has a pretty solid explanation of how the universe became what we see, there are open questions of course but nothing suggests that we need transcendent stuff to answer them. If everything is "just chemicals" it doesn't mean i shouldn't care. There's no logical connection, there's no reason why chemicals can't be important. That, again, is not how things work.
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  293.  @N81999  Where did you get it that i'm angry at god? 🤣 Please. God didn't do me any harm and never will, as well as satan and other fictional characters. Unlike relidiots who actively try to make my life worse using their fictional characters as an excuse. Them i hate with all my guts, and things you're saying now are the exact reason for that. In case you think i'm a fool i have a friendly advice for you: don't. Are you seriously trying the "no true scotsman" trick on me? No, patriarchy is not when someone dies for you. It's also not when you're given a pony. Patriarchy is by definition when power is concentrated in men's hands. What they are using it for is another story, but as someone once said, "people in authority tend to be the one to abuse authority". Who could that possibly be though? Can't quite remember.
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  294. As a side note, this youtube censorship is getting ridiculous. I had to split my comment in ten (!!!) just to avoid it. Your comment is hidden btw, i can only access it through notification.
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  295.  @N81999  Why would a transcendent being even need to be of a particular gender?
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  296.  @N81999  It was invented to secure (among other things) men's privileged position in society.
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  297.  @N81999  Sorry but this "true something" is but a mere tool of patriarchy.
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  298.  @N81999  But i don't even know why i delve into these bad faith arguments if the only thing that really matters is that some imaginary friend told you that female bodily autonomy is wrong.
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  299.  @N81999  What a bunch of BS. Who cares what this latin word meant originally? "Electron" means "amber" in greek, so fkin what? There are tiny pieces of amber inside of the atom now? "Atom" means "uncuttable" btw, and then we learned how to literally cut it in parts. Etymology is not semantics. Who cares about unique DNA? I am not my genes, i am my mind, my thoughts and my memories. Twins are two separate people despite sharing the same genes, and there are people whose body consists of cells with different sets of genes, that's called chimerism. I could claim that a fetus is a part of a pregnant person's body up until birth, and there would be nothing in biology that would contradict it, because the whole notion of a "being a separate organism" is a convention rather than a hard fact. But i don't even need that, because biology itself doesn't have to be connected to ethics. I can as well just accept that a fetus is a "human being", and you still won't be able to prove that abortion is wrong on this basis because that's not how things work.
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  300. Didn't know marriage makes unwanted pregnancy impossible. When did they pass this new law of physics? I suggest you to learn what Pearl index is. I'm pretty serious about using contraception but i can't be sure it won't fail me one day. And when that happens i'll need an abortion, and i'll get it even if it means having to travel to the other side of the globe.
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  301. I'm the one who will suffer if i don't terminate the pregnancy 🤷‍♀
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  302.  @abiski8851  That wasn't an argument, just an observation. But if we follow that silly way of reasoning then "women" also can't get pregnant because "biological women" includes 2 years old women, 80 years old women, women whose uteruses (or uteri?) were removed, and those who are just in the wrong phase of the cycle, and neither of these can get pregnant.
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  303.  @abiski8851  Logic clearly isn't your strongest superpower.
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  304. People can't get pregnant? Interesting, didn't know that.
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  305. Call me selfish but i'm not going to sacrifice myself under any circumstances. Don't have anything against children, we get along just fine as long as they stay away from my uterus.
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  306. ​ @jasnajasmine7872  Oh my. Here. We. Go. You see, everything that the bible says about women may as well be said about domestic pets. Sure i love my cat, and i want to protect it from harm, and i'm happy that it's here with me making my days brighter, and so on. But i don't actually see it as a peer. In our little relationship i'm the one in charge and i make all major decisions about its life. I don't have to ask it whether it wants to be neutered for example. In other words i have no respect for my cat, and it perfectly reflects the biblical attitude towards women. Women are told to respect their husbands, but it's never mentioned that men should respect their wives. They are only told to love them. So let me tell you one thing now - love without respect is not only worthless, it's actually one of the most dangerous things in the world as it can be used to justify literally anything as long as it's "for your own good". You can't vote because you don't know what's good for you but we do. You can't manage your own money because you'd spend everything on dresses and jevelry and end up starving and we want to protect you from that. You can't attend university because that would stray you from the only path that can make you truly happy which is being a walking cannon fodder factory. Oh, and of course we'll burn you at the stake to save your immortal soul. You should be grateful to us.
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  307.  @elastronaute1198  If something existed for a long time it doesn't mean it's any good. Religion was there for a long time for the same reason as smallpox. It does not benefit society, it just clings to it exploiting weaknesses of our kind. Religion is a virus of the mind, nothing more. We just need a vaccine.
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  308.  @elastronaute1198  I doubt these are connected that much. Individualist approach existed long before christianity in antique culture. Sure we improved that as our notion of citizenship is not limited to free adult men who own land, but what was the role of christianity in such improvement is unclear. In most christian denomination having a pen. is is still a requirement for a priest job so they are more like failing students than trendsetters in this matter. But even if you're right, things that were useful in the past don't stay useful forever. Religion only drags us down now.
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  309. Well, it's time for a better foundation than a book of fairytales. Pro choice is not "one size fits all", it's literally the opposite of that. Everyone decides what's better for them in their particular case. The doctor should not decide for you.
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  310. If you want to make abortions more humane we can find the middle ground i guess. I'm all for it as long as it doesn't decrease safety or availability of the procedure.
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