Comments by "Kristóf Antal" (@kristofantal8801) on "Medieval Weapons Master Rates 11 Weapons And Armor In Movies And TV | How Real Is It? | Insider" video.

  1. There is no evidence (pictorial, writing, archeological) for Viking leather armor...
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  2. 1. He is very familiar with the Battle of Agincourt, as he specializes in the period between the end of the 14th century and the middle of the 15th century. 2. The French king was not present in the battle, nor was the Dauphin. There was no duel between anyone. 3. The battle is really well documented, but for some reason you don’t care, and you’ll find out from the Netflixes movie (aka The King). Before you write such nonsense, you have to look for reality and at least look at Wiki... Thank you! :)
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  3. Yeah, the weapons, but not the armors! Tod weapons is basically fine in the movie. By the way, Tod and Tobias know eachother, moreover they had a common display in the arrow vs. armor video.
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  4. When he talks about evidence, he understands not only physical, but also written or visual evidence... And he's right, because there's no evidence.
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  5. He understood figuratively. In Hungary, too, it is common for medieval Hungary to be called the Hungarian Empire.
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  6. "And he doesn't know much about the battle of Agincourt." He knows more than you, for sure, because that period is his specialty... :D
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  7.  @Binxy  Yes, never a thing in early medieval Britain!
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  8. They mean for early medieval Britain...
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  9. When he talks about evidence, he understands not only physical, but also written or visual evidence... And he's right, because there's no evidence.
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  10. In addition to material sources, there are also visual sources. Do you see a mass of soldiers in contemporary image sources in leather armor like what you see in movies or TV shows? I can't see. Toby can't see either. All of the little evidence of use has survived in writing with some archeological and pictorial. So leather has also been used as armor and clothing, yes, but not in the way as many movies and TV shows portray, not in such quality and not in such quantity. It was not common as clothing (except for shoes, gloves, and belts) and was not effective as armor. The buff coat used in the 17th century is one of the exceptions because it was relatively common (especially among cavalry) and made of leather. But the buff coat is non-boiled leather and doesn’t look like pop culture garbage.
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  11.  @magatism  It did happen. Many nobles died at Mohács..
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  12. In the Battle of Mohács (1526), the Hungarian army had 4000 mounted men-at-arms in full plate armour.
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  13. He talk about movie and TV show leather (biker gear)...
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  14. He speak about early medieval Anglo-Saxons...
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  15. Not bad, but armours in Kingdom of Heaven are better. Of course budget is an important thing.
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  16. He understood the early Middle Ages when the series takes place.
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  17. Braveheart is a joke... The Scots wore nothing in the movie (while in reality, they wore gambesons, mail and helmets), while the English did not wear massively lamellar-like full armor (they were similarly armed as the Scots, i.e. gambesons, helmets, mail, coat of paltes, etc.) . Scottish highland clothing (which didn’t look like shit) didn’t even exist in full in the Middle Ages... ..
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  18. What about written or pictorial sources? Zero evidence for them as well. So he is right. And do you think a historian and a museum curator, like Tobias Capwell doesn't know that what you mean? What there is zero evidence for cannot be called common, especially not factual, and especially not such ugly modern biker leather "clothing". Do you think the leather "armor" in the series is authentic?
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  19. Which is more or less a sallet... :D
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  20. He was basically a high ranking noble norsemen, so he was part of the upper class. In the TV series he was a lower class men, but in reality (if he was a real person...) he wasn't...
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  21. Early medieval Anglo-Saxons...
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  22. Majority of the "historical" movies and TV series are joke... So he is right.
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  23.  @halfcrazy12  Leather was used, but not in the quality and quantity as seen in movies and TV series! Aka leather biker gear... And I would also deny that the use of leather clothes was common. There is no concrete evidence for this. It is already eloquent that it can hardly be seen in contemporary pictorial representations. Most of all, it is certain that the Vikings did not wear leather clothes like the ones seen in the series.
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  24. You right basically, but he meant for early medieval Britain...
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  25. Yeah, just you... What are you talking about? I watched that video and there was no mention of leather clothing or leather armor! The only thing the ax guy said was that the end of the handle of the ax was sometimes covered with leather so as not to slip during use. Do you think an ax handles are leather clothing? Because if you do, you're stupid... Do you know what clothes means? Watch the videos again because you seem to be inattentive as well. Tobias Capwell is a historian, museum curator, and a reenactor. Google it. By the way, there is zero evidence for Viking leather armor... Zero! Specially zero for rubbish TV shows like biker leather...
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  26. You don't know anything about this subject, while the person in the video is a military historian who is an expert in armor...
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  27.  @gabriel.brasileiro  You are an idiot. He rates how well a given armor works under the given conditions and protects the person, performs its function, doesn't matter it is a fantasy or historical... And yes, he treats historical movies more strictly as they try to portray reality.
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  28.  @gabriel.brasileiro  I see you still don't undertstand the situation... Think a little bit. 😉 And again: He is a military historian, a museum curator aka an expert, while you... What about you? Are you a professor of military history? 😀
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  29. What is your problem with his opinion? What's wrong?
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  30. Because it's a shit. Those leather biker gears are fiction. ..
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  31. Certainly not in Europe... Show me evidence that it was common in Europe! :D Leather was used, yes, but not in the quantity and quality as in movies and TV shows. It was not common.
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  32. @dougbound I have written that it has been used as armor in Europe throughout history (including the Middle Ages), but it is an exaggeration to have been common. Boiled leather was not common in the English Civil War either. The buff coat, which is a kind of buff leather jacket, on the other hand, was indeed widely used, but it was not boiled leather.
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  33. @dougbound And by the way, leather armour was clearly not an effective armour type, that's clear, because if it had been, and it was common, we would have a lot of evidence for it. ..
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  34. @dougbound "The European buff coat is an item of leather clothing that was primarily worn by cavalry and officers during the 17th century, but also worn by a small number of infantry." by Wiki
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  35. @dougbound I don't know what you want to punch, but it's like leather mail and leather plate didn't exist. ..
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  36. He meant for the the Anglo-Saxons...
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  37. When he talks about evidence, he understands not only physical, but also written or visual evidence... And he's right, because there's no evidence. "We do know vikings wore a gorm of brigandine..." There is no evidence of the use of brigandine before the 12th century... What you're thinking is called lamellar armor. The two aren't the same. Yes, they used lamellar armor, but it wasn't common. "Some sources hint that poorer vikings wore padded our quilted leather armor." What sources? As far as I know, there's no source for it...
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  38. He understood Anglo-Saxons and Vikings.
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  39. ?
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  40. No biker or heavy metal leather...
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  41. He speak about Anglo-Saxons...
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  42. He is a scholar of late Middle Ages armours, and he know that subject (Agincourt) very well, so... And the battle of Agincourt in that movie is inaccurate...
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  43. Barbute sometimes called Venetian sallet...
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  44. In addition to material sources, there are also visual sources. Do you see a mass of soldiers in contemporary image sources in leather armor like what you see in movies or TV shows? I can't see. Toby can't see either. All of the little evidence of use has survived in writing with some archeological and pictorial. So leather has also been used as armor and clothing, yes, but not in the way as many movies and TV shows portray, not in such quality and not in such quantity. It was not common as clothing (except for shoes, gloves, and belts) and was not effective as armor. The buff coat used in the 17th century is one of the exceptions because it was relatively common (especially among cavalry) and made of leather. But the buff coat is non-boiled leather and doesn’t look like pop culture garbage.
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  45. 1. Ragnar is a semi-legendary person in reality. 2. If Ragnar was lived in reality, he was a high-ranking men (he is a high ranking important person in the TV show too), so yes, he should have wore jewels, armour and helmet... 3. There is zero evidence for Viking leather armour. That leather garbage on the TV show clearly an invention of the costume designer...
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  46. Just not the way as many movies and series shows it. .. Biker leather is a modern thing...
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  47. Not like movie and TV show leather biker gears, sure...
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  48. Show me any historical evidence for this. By the way Lars is not a historical archer, and his things are not work in battles...
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  49.  @the_errant_taggerung146  Yes, but he speak about historical things in the video, not possible or not possible things...
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  50.  @the_errant_taggerung146  Fiction can be inspired by real history and real things... By the way, Tobias Capwell is a historian and museum curator...
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  51. He meant that in early medieval England, when the series took place. And he's right, because they weren't even used there at the time.
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  52. But pavise was not used before the 14th century...
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  53. Yes. Do you think the movies and series present reality?
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  54. This is 2 things... So not that much.
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  55.  @daviddavies3637  There are different opinions of course, because not every subject have certain and factual matter (like flaming or fire arrows or wedge formation)... Movies however had plenty of inaccuracies and irrealistic things, that's sure... Btw there are also many things which about that all or the majority of experts certainly agree. For example those Anglo-Saxon helmets are clearly 16th burgonets or Vikings did not wore biker leather clothes...
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  56. Barbuta is more or less a sallet, one of its improved versions. Sometimes it is also called Venetian sallet.
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  57. There is zero evidence for Scandinavian or Britannic leather armor... 😉
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  58. Why?
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  59. There is no evidence of that. .. And especially not the ones that can be seen in the TV series (and many other movies and TV shows unfortunately ... xd) as well. :D
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  60. Barbute also called Venetian sallet...
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  61. He understood the Vikings and the Anglo-Saxons. Rectangular shields were also used in the Middle Ages, especially in the late Middle Ages. For example, the pavise was a popular type.
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  62. Sometimes someone makes a mistake or doesn’t think of something, especially in front of a camera. "Tobias Emanuel ("Toby") Capwell FSA (born c. 1973) is an American historian who lives and works in London. His principal interest is in European arms and armour of the mediaeval and Renaissance periods (roughly, the 12th century to the 16th). He is Curator of Arms and Armour at the Wallace Collection in London. He has written and spoken extensively on both the historical and the practical aspects of his subject. He is a skilled jouster, and has claimed to be the world's only jousting curator."
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  63. Barbute is more or less a sallet...
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  64. He mean for early medieval Britain... And he is right.
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  65.  @garrettarcher3712  And Tobias Capwell is a historian and museum curator as well. So...
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  66.  @garrettarcher3712  Really? Then what is mean much? He specializes in the Middle Ages (especially the late Middle Ages / Renaissance) and is a curator of the Wallace Collection, a famous museum. What is your point then? Are you writing from experience? Are you a professional military historian? Maybe some polyhistor? Then you know everything I think... If it’s all that easy, then in principle everyone should know what’s going on. Given the many stupidities and the ignorance of some (?) people in the world, this is not the case... If it’s all that easy, why can’t filmmakers strive for reality and portray things a little more accurately?
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  67. But it’s not the kind of leather armor you’ve seen in many movies and TV series (aka biker leather)...
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  68. Dauphin (royal heir or prince), not king. But yes, you right.
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  69. The barbute is half as long as a sallet helmet (sometimes called Venetian sallet). It evolved from the sallet type. The Corinthian word probably didn't come to his mind suddenly.
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  70. "Tobias Emanuel ("Toby") Capwell FSA (born c. 1973) is an American historian who lives and works in London. His principal interest is in European arms and armour of the mediaeval and Renaissance periods (roughly, the 12th century to the 16th). He is Curator of Arms and Armour at the Wallace Collection in London. He has written and spoken extensively on both the historical and the practical aspects of his subject. He is a skilled jouster, and has claimed to be the world's only jousting curator."
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  71. Source? Evidence?
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  72. I don’t think in reality that biker leather existed before the 20th century...
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  73. But Anglo-Saxons and "Vikings" didnt' use them...
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  74. Vendel helmets are similar to the Viking helmets..
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  75. What do you think exactly? For which part of the video?
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  76. Movie and TV shows biker leather is fiction...
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  77. For God’s sake, he meant the Anglo-Saxons and Vikings.
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  78. Barbute sometimes called Venetian sallet. It evolved from the sallet type.
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  79. He understood the English Saxons and Vikings.
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  80. Maybe (although I see Viking nobles with helmets and armours in museums, books, reeanctors...), but biker leather is clearly a modern thing...
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  81. One evidence does not mean, that thing was common...
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  82. 2 helmet! And we had Scandinavian helmets from the pre-Viking period. In the Stockholm Viking Museum, the exibition had Vikings with helmets.
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  83. It doesn’t matter much as the helmets of the Viking period are very similar to the helmets of the Vendel period...
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  84.  @svetovidarkonsky1670  Yes, they are... The style and design is very similar.
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  85. He understood figuratively.
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  86. There are written and pictorial evidences as well... Zero evidence means not only archeological evidence.
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  87. It’s not the expert’s fault, it’s the editors ’. Anyway, part of the barbuta is a sallet. It is also customary to call it a Venetian sallet sometimes.
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  88.  @bellomori9944  Where is those evidences? I never saw them... Please, show me some! :) I am curious. :D
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  89. Biker leather too?
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  90. Because movies and TV shows know more than anything and everyone and are more realistic... (sarcasm)
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  91. He understood the English Saxons and Vikings.
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  92. From historical side it is basically a average. For example the Dauphin storypart is completely fiction...
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  93. Those are Scandinavian helmets, and some Viking helmets also found in Sweden and England.
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  94. What do you want? Destroy him with it? xddd Witcher shows Nilfgardian armor is garbage...
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  95. Barbute is more or less a sallet. Sometimes called Venetian sallet.
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  96. There is no evidence that either the Anglo-Saxons or the Vikings used rectangular shields. Literally nothing. ..
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  97. It was real! We have plenty of evidence...
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  98.  @Binxy  But he meant for... Ok, I admit it, not the best way, and little bit inaccurately. Mistakes happen sometimes.
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  99. He speak about Anglo-Saxons...
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  100. Barbute sometimes called Venetian sallet. It evolved from the sallet type.
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  101. Because of status and rank...
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  102. He meant for the Anglo-Saxons...
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  103. He meant early medieval Anglo-Saxons and Vikings, not all of history.
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