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Comments by "Conor." (@conor.3875) on "Atheists and Christians Debate Truth And Belief | Middle Ground" video.

I've literally never believed in a god. I've been an atheist my whole life. The people who support me through my tough times are my friends and family. Real people I have real relationships with. If you can't get through life without making believe that some god is always taking care of you, that's okay. You're entitled to that. But don't try to scare other people, who are actually brave enough to do without it, into feeling the same.
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They aren't, though. I'm an atheist, and always have been. I've never had a god to be angry at.
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@majinhiei7 You just said you literally deserve to burn forever. That's what you're calling "expressing faith in Jesus", I'm guessing. Pretty much any sane person would find it sad to hear that a person thinks that badly of themselves. What you just heard wasn't butt-hurt. It was pity.
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CJD CJD Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."
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CJD CJD You really are reaching here. You've started by admitting that the Bible is so flimsily written that it can say something totally plainly and bluntly, but still mean something else. Nothing written in a book like this should be afforded any credibility. In any case, this is just a tautology. You either have a god who creates evil, or you have a god that creates the good and evil dichotomy, and allows good to be absent. You aren't arguing about whether or not your god created evil. You're arguing about how he creates it.
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He was just a loudmouth.
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Why doesn't everything you've just said work as well for theist scientists?
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I've seen the world. I don't see how it has an artist...
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@robgarry7858 What makes you think it's a lie?
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@Irmis98 You don't know me...
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It's not a big deal to be vociferous, and it's not a big deal to be wrong about something. When you're both, people really take a dislike to you.
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Why would I want a biblical perspective?
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@PeaceToUsAll In that case it depends what you mean by "disbelief". You might mean to believe in the falsehood of something, or you might just mean to lack belief in it. If it's the latter, TombWraith's statement was true. At any given time, a person is either believing something, or not. Believing in a god makes a person a theist. "Not" makes a person an atheist. There isn't a middle ground between those.
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@Kuala Lampur Yes it is. It's your instruction manual. Not ours.
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@lotus9865 "Kinds" aren't a concept in biology. It's a piece of creationist rhetoric that allows for goalposts to be constantly moving for being described with language that literally means nothing.
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No he's not. I am. And he knows nothing of my work.
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@andyscott15 Leviticus 25:44-46
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@andyscott15 "Don't harm them" would have been a better caution than "enslave them instead". You can hardly call that, "saving" them... The Bible contains specific rules about how slaves can be treated. It says masters can beat their slaves as long as they don't die from it within a day or two. This isn't super-happy-friendly slavery, dude. These slaves were probably treated how you'd expect a slave to be.
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@majinhiei7 You have to be literally as low as a thing can get to deserve to be tortured forever. Here you are, so out of your mind with hatred that you call it pride to think you're better than that. This really is tragic.
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@loneboyhomesteader That's hardly evidence of a god...
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Excuse you?
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Atheism and agnosticism aren't part of the same spectrum, though. A person who's agnostic is still either theist or atheist.
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No.
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Why does it need inherent (as I'm assuming you mean) value? What's wrong with just having value?
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Fuck off, Jesus.
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@Ireallyamprettynice88 You say it's truth, but that's not really enough. People don't believe things just because they hear them. At least not if they're being smart.
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@Ireallyamprettynice88 Believing whatever you hear takes a lack of both.
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Ew. Gay.
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An atheist is a person who doesn't believe in any gods. The lady is an atheist. That's that. The old man doesn't have authority here just because he wrote a book. Anyone can do that. He should probably read one here and there.
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@KingPingviini Would you not know that Harry Potter was fiction if you hadn't heard the author say so then...?
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@hijeff1766 Have you not read it?
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@hijeff1766 Just that you seemed to be saying that those things aren't in the Bible.
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The Bible isn't relevant.
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@Hong Kong Your instructions aren't what're under discussion. It's irrelevant.
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@Kuala Lampur No it isn't. It's not mine. It's yours.
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Nah...
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He's a smug, self-important person. Why would I need to be PC to find that annoying?
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Arguing and criticising aren't bad things. We learn from them, and our beliefs get smarter from them.
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Yeah, yeah...
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're done.
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I have read the Bible, and I'm an atheist now. I'm not really on board with the idea that Jesus ought to be followed. Not everything he said is good or true...
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He wasn't right. "You're an agnostic, not an atheist" is what he said.
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He went in to a conversation with atheists not knowing what an atheist means. Zealous ignorance isn't wisdom.
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@robgarry7858 Why is God okay with people causing death?
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What? No it doesn't...
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@VRM7789 ... and what happens?
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Nah...
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@jamiegilliam3658 What makes you think you know what the Bible says better than any other denomination?
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@jamiegilliam3658 That's still just your interpretation of the Bible, and yours isn't the only one. People disagree with you about what the Bible says. What makes you think you know what God says any better than they do?
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@jamiegilliam3658 To find out what is and isn't, all you have is your interpretation. You are trying to process and understand what the Bible says. "Interpretation" is the word for this. You have an interpretation, and other people have others. I am asking why you think yours should be granted greater credence than anyone else's, and you keep coming back with what basically amounts to, "mine is right". Everyone thinks their own interpretation is the right one. That hardly sets you apart.
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@jamiegilliam3658 They can't all be right. What makes you think yours is the one that is, is what you are being asked.
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@jamiegilliam3658 That's what you say it says. Others say differently.
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That's called closed-mindedness. It isn't a virtue.
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@andyscott15 What problem at hand? That they were going to harm the people? Because that, as I've just said, is easy to solve without enslaving anyone. Why do you keep saying it was "temporary" as if that makes it right? Harming people isn't just okay as long as you stop eventually.
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@andyscott15 Deuteronomy does not say God is against slavery. It just says that if your slave is another Hebrew, you can only enslave them for six years, and even that doesn't hold up, because it also gives you a loophole that lets you keep them forever. This rule is specifically for other Hebrews. The verse I gave you says you also get to buy slaves from other nations. "The heathen who surround you" in some translations, and that rule doesn't apply to them.
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@andyscott15 Did you not read what I just asked? Why do you keep saying it was "temporary" as if that makes it right? Don't just keep repeating it to me as if I've ignored it. I asked a follow-up question. Answer.
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@andyscott15 YOU are judging it. You're here trying to tell me it was justified. Slavery is an evil thing, so if you want to try making excuses for it, you'd better have some good ones. Just telling me not to judge doesn't cut it. I'm a person with a moral compass, so I definitely will judge slavery.
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@andyscott15 I'm sorry to have to spell this out, but enslaving a person does involve judging them, and you're defending it.
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@ryanlee5294 Any faith is too much faith. It's not a path to truth.
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@ryanlee5294 It is. That's the problem. Faith is not a pathway to truth.
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That's neat, but don't worry. You'll grow out of it eventually.
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Spoons?
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@larvlarv4204 He probably won't be won over by constant preaching and pestering. The end of a friendship is all that'll come of that.
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@toikissa8734 "justificating"
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@criticclips1560 And how do you figure?
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@criticclips1560 Yeah, I kind of thought so.
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@criticclips1560 I thought you might mouth off and go quiet when I called you on it.
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@criticclips1560 "your the one who's scared looool" This is what you said. I asked you to back it up, and you went quiet. You're mouthing off again now, so how long will it take this time?
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@criticclips1560 I don't put "lol" in every comment I make to keep feeling like I'm winning. Can you back up anything you say or is this all you have?
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 @criticclips1560 Is this the best you can do?
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What if we don't want a relationship with Yashua?
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Being an agnostic doesn't make you not an atheist, though. That's what he was wrong about.
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@SamaelDaking Right, but, it does, though.
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So?
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It's not obvious that either is true.
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Is that your contribution?
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@Catholic-Redpilled-Spaniard Why not?
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@Catholic-Redpilled-Spaniard That was a reiteration. Not an explanation.
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@Catholic-Redpilled-Spaniard I don't know why you bothered speaking...
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@lenakielk5454 What you described is basically what I think about this, and I'm an atheist.
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@lenakielk5454 That doesn't seem to conflict with anything you've said.
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@lenakielk5454 No.
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What makes you think we don't understand it, dude?
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@anoukf9455 He said he wants to help us understand. That's hardly much use if we already do.
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@anoukf9455 Read the comment, dude. "Understand Christian faith" is what he said.
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@loneboyhomesteader That's pretty vague...
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@loneboyhomesteader "other instances where things have happened."
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@loneboyhomesteader Why would it need to be verbally?
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