Comments by "tblbaby" (@tblbaby) on "Atheist Muslim Speaks Out | Ali Rizvi | SPIRITUALITY | Rubin Report" video.

+Strettger Intellectual flexibility gathers more truth than rigidity. Culturally he's Muslim, but he's Atheist. If he just said he was Muslim that would be dishonest. By adding Atheist it gives his position on Islamic theism, what's left? Very simple deductive reasoning pretty much gives the rest. Well at least it's like that for me. I don't always understand how the majority of people process info, but it seems so clear.
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How about giving Trumps real position? Giving the very sound reasoning on it? [TEMPORARY HALT TO Muslim immigration based on FBI's statement they can't vet them, UNTIL WE CAN VET THEM. Based on Administration road blocks on vetting Muslims specifically, that lead to the California terrorists not being caught BEFORE?] The actual facts behind it like Do you feel you have to be dishonest on this? Or you just don't know because you haven't looked past statements by Trump's opponents? You guys do Exactly what you accuse regressives of. How can they not see it? How can YOU not see it? Are you blind to the truth on this? Or just don't trust people to process the facts in a way favorable to your goals? This is the problem with regressives. You only see one slice of the problem ... while actually existing and accepting most of the universe of most of the problem.
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Ironic, you're saying Trump is opportunistically channeling fear & confusion for his own selfish motives ... while you're totally misrepresenting what Trump calls for, which was not "ban all muslims" That is a false statement based on a subject which is real, but it's a misleading way to present it. Communicated without deception, Trump's position on Muslim's coming to the US, is sensible. It's the position that's not stupid. How can you gain credibility with deception and expect to bring people together? That is regressive.
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Alex M The OBAMA Administration have implemented blocks which HAVE GOTTEN MANY PEOPLE MURDERED because they impeded feds to do their jobs, and those federal agencies and agents have informed of this. You don't think this should be fixed maybe? Before letting in more potential killers? Very high likelihood of letting in people with a plan to murder? Actual terrorists?
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Muslims WERE Celebrating the towers falling. That's OUTRIGHT FACT. I remember when they did fall reports of this and video. THE SAME FUCKING DAY. There are records of people getting their ass kicked because they were celebrating and the police were called RECORDS. Rudy Giuliani backed Trump up, in New York. What Trump said happened in New Jersey was very real and he's been backed up with evidence. http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/muslim-911-parties-confirmed-by-cop-witnesses/ http://spectator.org/blog/64746/trump-right-cnn-reported-american-muslims-celebrating-911 http://nypost.com/2015/12/21/nj-police-captain-says-some-muslims-did-celebrate-on-911/ http://gotnews.com/fact-check-muslims-did-celebrate-9-11-according-to-the-ny-times/ Want more? Everyone watching things going on knew at the time. Now Your favored candidates and News orgs LIE? So you'll stop taking them for credible, right? Some standards like you hold Trump to? No? well gee
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Alex M I like Trump most because he's not a zealous nut, and not pandering to the extreme right. I do not dig that in Cruz and others, at all. Have you actually seen Trump questioned on specific situations? Where he could explain what he's saying? I doubt that. Trump is not unreasonable. His words have been cherry picked and mischaracterized on the Muslim issue and on the Mexican immigration issue. If Trump was what as he's being portrayed, I'd have no defense for him and I wouldn't want him around. BUT the fact is he isn't that guy.
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Alex M Trump is talking about ANY MUSLIM WHO IMMIGRATES except those who are well known. True, look into who's killed here and in Europe. It's called not being stupid. The Obama administration is blocking feds from vetting MUSLIMS specifically well, buy the feds tasked to do it's own account. We can't trust Obama's immigration mechanism. That has been well established. In his lust for political gain, he's KILLED PEOPLE. He's broken immigration law. He's bused illegal immigrant children into the US. The Democrats have worked on ways for illegal immigrants to vote, have been caught at is, and nothing done because the Obama "Justice Department" is so fucking corrupt it's completely unprecedented. There IS NO RIGHT TO IMMIGRATION INTO THE US, PERIOD. Trump isn't talking about sending any legit citizen out of the US for any reason. I don't know about the 14th Amendment cheat babies, that's not what they 14th amendment says. It's been used wrongly. An illegal act isn't protected by law. Very basic principal of US and most Western law.
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Alex M Trump has missed on some stats and he did use a fucked up number on crime. It wasn't deliberate, and he recanted. Not that the actual crime statistics are not seriously in that direction, they are. So Trump slipping up and accidentally using a erroneous statistic there is a disqualifier? ... (>.<) HAHAHAHA! I mean is that just for Trump or is your favorite candidate subject to the same standard? How about Hillary? Deliberately lying about ... oh, every fucking day? Yeah, Trump can talk a but loose and brashly ... give me a fucking break! Why have standards for your own and hold one who far exceeds your candidates honesty to the standard of Perfect? Or disqualified? Get the fuck out of here with that weak hypocritical bullshit. You want a list of Hillary's lies and deceptions? want one? humm? lol Laws she's broken? Conflict of interest taking money from enemies of the US? Humm? Lists?
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Now, you're getting ridiculous with your Absolutes, which are a key indicator of indoctrination and giving up of reason. Trump does a lot of business over seas and has for a long time. That puts him WAY ahead of Obama when he ran. WAY Ahead. Also ahead of Hillary who totally fucked shit up in her tryout. People fucking died on her watch, probably she murdered Stevens. She LIED about it being caused by a video. Somehow massive amounts of weapons ended up going from Libya to Syria (probably why Stevens had to be murdered, he was involved). She was involved in a huge cover up where sought witnesses were sent out of country for over a year. She lied her ass off on the News. Lied her ass on in front of victims families. She does far more lying her ass off than telling things strait, and still she's a viable candidate? Something is fucking wrong with our media and justice department there. Seriously fucking wrong! Trump isn't perfect. I'm not looking for perfect. I sure as fuck don't want an extremely corrupt bitch like Hillary as president? You've got to be fucking kidding me! She was fired off the Nixon Watergate trials for lying, gross fraud and conspiring to violate the constitution, by a serious partisan Democrat. She was involved in the Rose law firms shit, for which many went to jail, and she was protected, like Bill was for so many crimes. It goes downhillary from there man, DOWN.
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***** spoken like a true mushroom :) I do tend to go against the slime oozing out of your TV set. (Zappa Derivative) You should think for yourself, not allowing TV to form your world view, because your TV lies to you. Powerful wealthy people put things in it that fool you. Voting for people your TV likes is fucking stupid, because those people have goals diametrically opposed to your own well being. I'm no rich hater, but at level, that's how it is. The thing about Trump is he's not into making people live under his ideology, like so many Republicans and all of the Democrats. He's not a bible thumper. He also doesn't want to bribe the public via theft proceeds.
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***** How do I know what TV you're watching? lol, not specifically, but you can tell what someone ingests by what they barf up. Islamophobia is a term the ignorant spew, because there is a cult out there directed to certain things and is the largest source of aggression and oppression in the world and has been for around 1400 years. Such a word certainly doesn't come from objective study of Islamic violence or the study of their Koran and other religious dictatorial material. Study politicalislam.com if you'd like to really understand. The problem with what Trump seems to you is you're misinformed and crappy at objective analytical assessment. Trump is well known for his principals in business. He can be counted on to keep his word and get things done. That's his history and it's helped him amass billions. Not something very many people do. If you think he doesn't understand politics and is unlikely to get things done? lol, you are clueless as to his history. The man is shrewd and brilliant. You're gulping in the view put out by his detractors without much thought, but in your own ignorance you're more than willing to mouth off ... that's not a good indication of judgement on your part. "He's Just A" that's prejudicial mind set. Something you should guard against. That kind of limited perception is bound to be wrong. Especially about someone with a life time of proven effectiveness and brilliant achievement who's taken on the media, gotten to the people, and kicked their ass without spending a lot of money. You have opinions which seem loud and are obviously biased, obviously ill informed. If I were you I'd be embarrassed to be just one loud voice in the midst of an ignorant indoctrinated mob buying what they're fed without much thought at all.
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***** What I've said would be worth commenting on if you had a decent quality of thought. If you think Trump preys on bigotry, then you have not heard what Trump says, but small snips cut to paint a false impression of what he said. I know, I've seen them. I've also taken the time to analyze. The US government said they can't vet the Refugees slated to come in by the 100s of thousands. The Obama administration has put in blocks to investigating muslims, which lead to the recent mass murdering terrorist in California getting through. The Obama administration has blocked and scrapped investigations which have turned up troubling information which it also banned from being transmitted to other organizations. Information on the mosque the California Murderers and their accomplice were radicalized at. Understanding those facts, do you think calling for a halt to immigration of a group the Obama administration is blocking investigation into is just blind bigotry? Really? Do you understand the situation with the Obama administration encouraging illegal immigration from Mexico? In not prosecuting criminal illegal aliens for very real crimes and people being killed by them as a result? Obama is importing a bunch of illegal aliens in order to change the voting structure of the US and resisting efforts to have ID to vote, which almost every country has, even the dirt poor third world countries. He's pushing a massive cheat and selling out the country. He's aligned with George Soros who he's worked with and for in the past and it's been on corrupt cheat of the US people. Soros has been involved in massive corruption world wide and destructive crashing of governments and economies. Media has been bought off and controlled to a large extent by people Soros is connected to and specifically by his orgs. Media matters, which is a Soros org was busted with the Obama administration bribing CNN for selected coverage. What stories to run and what not to run. Now Obama is trying to bring in massive numbers of military aged male Muslims that our agencies are saying they can't vet. His own cabinet members have stood up against him. He's got 7 Muslim Brotherhood members involved in homeland security immigration. The Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization. Even the UK just recognized this and made the official distinction. Obama is blocking investigation into the mass number of muslim's backgrounds and their social media usage. I didn't get all of this from Trump, but what people involved have said in blowing the whistle with documented information. Do you think Trump's suggestion of a temporary moratorium on that group which has just mass murdered, and has a number of times in recent past, is just playing to bigotry? It's the only position on the situation that's not fucking insane, or deliberately subversive to the people of the US.
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***** I'm interested in perceptions out there. Also reactions to information http://abcnews.go.com/US/secret-us-policy-blocks-agents-social-media-visa/story?id=35749325 unless you're immune to information. There is much to understand. That Trump suggesting Banning All Muslims, is untrue, and a gross simplification. Ironic that the claim of Trumps bigotry relies on the same kind of propaganda / info manipulation that actual racist groups use to indoctrinate people to their causes. I've dug deep for decades. I've also been following Trump for decades as he's been involved in contracting and development. Your perception of Trump is ridiculous :)
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Alex M The word "BAN" doesn't explain Trumps position, but that's why his detractors use it as propaganda. Temporary moratorium pending correcting systemic problems in vetting, that HAVE GOTTEN MANY PEOPLE MURDERED is more accurate.
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jorge pagan ateists ... the round ones
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I've been the new center for a long time ... liars and thieves who seek to use government to dishonest ends, don't fit.
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Justaquietbird what you've said about the vetting process isn't true of what's going on. The dangerous morons are the ones who've already gotten people killed. The Obama administration has set up blocks to good vetting of refugees and others. Obama has Muslim Brotherhood members pushing policy measures and getting them in. The FBI has already said they can't do a good job of vetting these people. The recent groups of "refugees" in Europe and the US (people got pictures of the last coming into Louisiana Airport) are almost all military aged males. They are the people Assad was fighting, they ARE ISIS. You're speaking of how it should be with refugees, not how it is. You're speaking of a narrative you've heard about Trump, not the reality. What people like you (really the liars who've afflicted your mind) do is set up false narrative to defame people who they want to get around or put down. The media has become a tool of government, controlled. They limit and massage information. People like you go around spewing their bullshit like you really know what's going on, and you don't. It's a propaganda tool you're helping with by your ignorant messages spoken as if you had a clue, when you don't. You're just regurgitating lies. YOU and the media crap you support are doing exactly what you're complaining Trump does, which he doesn't do. Lie about an issue and create a FALSE NARRATIVE. I highly doubt you even know his whole statements on the matters. You get clips and naively believe you know it all. Then you spread this as if you do, that makes you their tool. Not a tool for truth, a tool of propaganda.
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Justaquietbird Many countries who took in more "refugees" that the EU have been pushing are fed up. I mean their women are getting raped as a horrible rate, murders, child molestations, whole groups of "refugees" becoming gangs and beating people. Threatening and intimidating police. The people, very welcoming people like the Swedes have risen up and fought back, which isn't something that they do without extreme provocation. Our media and the media in Europe calls them Nazi's and pours out support for the refugees. The people involved are just people who've been invaded. Something fucked up is going on, and it's got people like you attacking those trying to help stop it. Attacking people trying to help the real victims. People telling it like it is, like Trump. Of course you don't hear his version, you just hear "ban all Muslims" which isn't what he said. Bringing so many refugees into other countries makes no sense. It costs many times more, billions on billions. It doesn't follow UN guidelines. They are re-homing war criminals.
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***** That's the thing, Dave is regressive on many issues. He doesn't see certain things. He does see many things. He does seek rationality, but our minds are complex and we miss things we're not looking for. I've been very impressed with Dave, but also gained a sort of epiphany which I should have understood because of my study of behavior and it fits right in. Dave is Jewish, and he's gay. Muslim issues would stand out to him because it's kind of a thing generally they'd like to destroy his race and throw him off a roof or hang him, and people who he identifies with support them. That's where I think he gained his epiphany. It's in his face. Will he understand that the same motivation to vote for a prospective larcenous guy like Sanders is similar motive that drove people to see Slavery as ok? Because they would gain from it? I doubt he'd see that. We all have our things. Bones in the Nose, Sticks on the Dicks. I have fought sticks off my dicks so hard, because I've seen it in people, and group think is so destructive, but I'm always catching myself and going through a struggle to free my mind from the bondage that nature lays on it. And I know, which is why I'm agnostic. I don't buy my brain telling me what I've been searching and trying to get some answer about is real, I know that concentration develops a fixation and my brain would fill it in. Pretty sure that's what happens to religious people, how they can know so many diametrically opposed things. It's much the same with other information. He "knows" certain things which are beliefs, yet are wrong. We all do it. A hell of a lot of money and effort goes into conditioning us, in populations. Hell man, ever wonder why digital TV was priority one? Why government was all over it? Those things have so much sway over our paradigms it's great if you'd like to control masses. Who wants to control masses? What power minded folks wouldn't? It's worth huge investments, it pays off big. I sound crazy huh? :) but the what can't be answered by a shallow why. Things that come into play are kinda complex, or more accurately foreign to how we perceive and our perceptions, our illusions of reality, much more powerful than we usually understand and intelligence doesn't help much there. Or maybe it does, but only to a certain degree. I mean Dave is intelligent. He did see through, and others who have and follow Dave, seem much smarter than average. Don't worry, my doggy tells me I'm completely sane, by what he doesn't say, in english o_O
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Taelforlife You mean raising taxes on the people who already pay a massively disproportionate amount? Forcing them to pay at gunpoint? Gee genius, what do you think? lol
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Taelforlife You're starting with a premise that someone's money doesn't belong to them. That's a warped premise. I realize you've been brain washed, but apply that to everything and it becomes clear.
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Taelforlife Where do you think "they" make their money? lol, it's probably not all the same ways if you think about it. I mean I know it's not, but you seem pretty stunted so we better not get crazy here with details.
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Taelforlife People wanting to keep their own money over having government blow it to create power in voting blocks and gain bribes for it? IS SELFISH? Holy Fuck your perspective is out of whack.
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Taelforlife Thieves, are not decent human beings. Slavers, are not decent human beings. If you want to give money to charity, go for it. Don't force others at gun point to contribute to the corruption in DC and destruction of our country.
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