Comments by "schloops" (@schloops8473) on "Why Utah Rejects Donald Trump (Hint: Faith)" video.

  1. Aeroldoth3 Couldn't the same be said of Christians, Muslims, whatever?
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  2. Vote Jill Stein so you can have trumpy elected. Yup, that's what I call standing by your values. I hope David Duke isn't running for senate in your state.
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  3. Henry von Rintelen Eh, no worries :).
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  4. The biggest winners of this election might be the Mormons... they really looking good. "Nope, we won't vote for that monstrosity even if it has a R next to it's name". I'm an atheist.
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  5. Aeroldoth3 I would add the caveat that religion is only one set of memes in an ocean of memes that influence people. Plenty places with lots of believers that are sympathetic to lgtb rights. People put their bigotry into their faith. Areas more bigoted have more bigoted interpretations of the scriptures. I'm an atheist... I don't give special powers to religions even when it would suit my lack of beliefs. I find giving special powers to religions to be counter-productive in the long run. Not saying religions aren't vectors of conservatism (aka the past was just so perfect)... they are, and they have an influence... but I do think bigoted cultures gives us bigoted interpretations more than bigoted religions give us bigoted cultures.
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  6. Aeroldoth3 Actually, the bible doesn't say much about lgtb stuff. Bigots put their bigotry into their bible making it say what they want it to say.
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  7. I'm as atheistic as it goes, but I don't believe religion is going anywhere for a long long loooooooong time. I also know people that have gained from their religion. I ofc know people that are worse or worse off due to religion.
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  8. It was a joke ^^. I'm an atheist and it made me laugh.
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  9. Socialist Lion yah, you are right Lion.
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  10. Yes, JS all the way, utopia before pragmatism, purity before results... and 1% in the polls. Look at me how beautiful I am, voting for JS and maybe putting it's opposite in power. Just fantastic. There will be no hiding if trumpy gets elected with your help. We would put your nose in it. And still: * no offer to display the JS and green campaign emails to show us how pure she is * no work on getting towards a parliamentarian system where supporting the green could make sense * no work on getting members elected in consequential seats that would allow the green to actually work on their promises. * no work on actually getting elected Nope, all we got is a call to not vote dem issued exclusively towards constituencies of the dems. A dream come true for trumpy. You are right a right-wing vector.
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  11. Well, since between dems and repubs, you decided to vote blank, what does it make you? Someone that doesn't care, that's what.
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  12. Until proven guilty of a crime, you aren't a criminal. Yes, even if the know-nothing or tinfoil people say the opposite. Lied in Benghazi? About what? And even if so, you think BS or JS never lied (http://www.politifact.com/personalities/bernie-s/)? Are you new on this planet? Why would someone "currently dieing because of bacterial infection" run for president?
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  13. s vallejo What has polygamy to do with anything I've said? NOTHING. And what part of what I said is hating America? None. Pathetic idiot.
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  14. MrBigEnchilada His message? Flip flop hate flip flop something stupid flip flop white is beautiful
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  15. How to make a country great again? Oh well, the answer is easy: build walls. Yup, that will do the trick /sarcasm. Now, since it's about making America great AGAIN, I have to ask, what moment are you referring to, as being that beaming moment where America was great? Second question: did it have a wall, and if the answer is NO: how would making a wall bring you back to that moment?
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  16. Aeroldoth3 Oh, but Leviticus is so much full of garbage even Christians only touch it with a pole. They even have some line of reasoning where Leviticus is not relevant anymore and never was to be obeyed by non Jews (I'm not an expert, so could be wrong). The bible, through jesus, somewhere, does say that a marriage is between a man and a women, but it does it the same way that people answer children about where do babies come from: "when a mommy and a daddy love each other very blabla"... when they say that, they aren't making a statement about that being the only way or any other way being anathema. I see their conclusions based on that as a result of poor reading abilities mixed with bigotry. I'm basically repeating what a Xian priest that doesn't mind marrying gays etc said (apart from the insults... those are mine :D). The Christians are all over the place about how to get to heaven. I still believe it's bigots more than religion that have and still are harming lgtb's. Since the bible can't be used as a source of law in the US, the bigots assert that allowing lgtb's to marry for example, would lead to people marrying animals... some people are bigots, with or without religion.
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  17. Aeroldoth3 By their context. Religion is only part of their context. I'm an atheist, a real one (not saying you aren't) and so I give no special powers to a set of memes just because they are called religion.
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  18. Aeroldoth3 I completely agree that religions treat lgtb's badly. Where we differ is that you see religions as a source of bigotry while I see them as a vehicle for bigotry... the bigotry being already there. That explains why the interpretations vary widely depending on the local culture and why we can't put all Muslims, Christians, etc, in one basket.
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  19. Aeroldoth3 Traditions? Themselves coming from constraints... for example, 2 tribes operating on some same area... the one with the more descendants will have an advantage. Also, some activities might be more dangerous in the desert when you can't bath or whatever.
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  20. Aeroldoth3 Oh, but the need to have more spawn was a policy most countries had and actually, most still have. There is a reason even people with golden toilets receive money from the states for their children. That reason is that it's not bleeding heart lefties policies... it's real-politics, with emphasis on military matters, still today. Might change in the future, and I believe that is the biggest reason more people don't care about people being lgtb... and that would be weapons of mass destruction and such. Also, with the rise in inequalities, poor people pay a lower share of taxes and therefore having more of them is less important to finance the militaries and fill the cannon-fodder needs, because wars are more decided by technology than amount of soldiers. There was a time when if you put your hat on someone's bed, you were looked like the ante-christ, and that was that it risked spreading bugs. And even when that risk dived down, that tradition staid around for a long while. The context is where that kind of stuff is born, and when the traditions are no more up to date with the situation, we call it bigotry, at least for some of them. I don't deny that religion helps such bigotry to stay around, but I refuse them being the source of the bigotry. Islam for example is strongly against eating pork... because it was very dangerous in the desert (+ probably some economic reasons or geo-politic ones or simply pigs being smarter than other farmed to eat animals or simply the sounds they emit when killed (really horrible)). Islam was based on ideas floating around already. The only other way of seeing it is that those ideas miraculously appeared inside those texts... as an atheist, I don't accept that. Nowadays, with refrigerators and so on, it makes less sense, but it was born in a situation where it made sense.
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