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  252. Time4 Truth  Ffs, do you people ever listen to the crap you spout?  Why are you so petrified by the next-to-no possibility of your government turning tyrannical......do you really have that little faith in the US population??  As I have said, your just pathetic wimps hiding behind your guns....and your kids are STILL getting slaughtered! The truth?......you wouldn't recognise it if you were slapped in the face with it!  Let's face it, your just another idiot who has to ignore points made by others and deflect to other issues when desperate ( and boy, are you desperate!). First, you totally ignored my point that it is not just a mental issue: the obvious fact is the mentally ill, and drug addicts, are easily able to obtain guns in your country. So yes, this makes it a gun issue.....it should be obvious to anyone with at least half a brain!  Second, you deflected to events in my country. Jebus h. Christ, if I had a penny for each time you idiots deflected in this way I'd be a rich man now! Ok, let me educate you as to the REAL situation here, rather than the alternate reality that is Faux News: such incidents are few and far between, and our security services are very adept at foiling the vast majority of them. Far more people are injured/killed in your country BY WHITE SUPREMACISTS ALONE than are in my country! Look it up, the rate is a tiny fraction of yours.  I despair at the way education is headed in your country: you believe you are making 'points', but you are spouting idiotic rubbish and then deflecting to other issues. Many more Americans would be alive today if you had enacted gun-control laws decades ago: YOU are to blame for this continuing insanity.
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  386. J Anderson  Wow, it really is one lie after another with you extremist god-botherers isn't it! No matter, I well know that is all you have.  Soo....where have I said I'm an atheist, LIAR.  Send me your proof that the evil dictators in the 20th century were atheists, LIAR. While your at it, give proof of your assertion they have killed more than "Christians" through the ages have......I for one admit I don't know which group is the worst, and I'd be amazed if you could conclusively prove your claim. You claim that we are somehow being harmed by living a "sinful life", but we are not: we are harmed by the intolerance and hate-filled bigotry of people such as you, LIAR. You claim our society would not have survived without the positive influence of Christianity, but offer no proof of this whatsoever, LIAR. And then you use that useless old crap linking us with communism.  SMH.......'your kind of thought'?!?  I repeat, you are a fool. 'My kind of thought' is simply to be able for LGBT to live their lives with dignity, free from you brainwashed idiots. But you just can't leave us alone, can you? Which is EXACTLY why I and many others will continue to call you out for what you are. Some of the worst of humanity.  Your final post is the usual utterly stupid nonsense, barely worthy of an answer, but I will ask this: If we have no use to society why have we (homosexuals) ALWAYS being around? You lot will keep churning us out, lol. Your 'point', however, is totally irrelevant: beneficial or not we have always existed, and always will: society has two choices, either persecution of LGBT or accept them as equals. Which of these two differing societies do you think most people want to be a part of these days?  Finally, I am just an amateur at spouting bile, J   (see hate-filled Christians), and I make no apologies......you extremists fully deserve to be called out strongly.
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  484. ***** Do you ever actually READ the garbage you type, JB?  You seem to think that because I successfully refute your sad nonsense I am therefore 'self-important'. Well no.....I am just a contented 59 year old gay male, happy with his lot, and fully supported by family, friends and colleagues. That is down to the fact that I am no longer surrounded by religious nutjobs and right-wing lackeys such as yourself. I have indeed 'indulged in some capitalism' and pursued my dreams.....what, did you think I was a pinko commie bastard, lol. You know nothing about me, idiot, but still spout on about my 'proletariat, equality-loving' life. The fact you state such garbage does indeed make you idiotic. I for one would not presume to make such assumptions about YOUR life. Because, well, I do not know you! And then you come out with more nonsense about us being 'peasantry' to our royals. That may have been the case if our royalty had any real political power, but they do not; they are figureheads. And rather effective ones at that......nobody loves our royals more than you Americans! Look, JB, with every post you prove your ignorance of the issues you espouse. I suggest you obtain a passport and actually visit the UK......we are enjoying record numbers of tourists at the moment who appreciate our wonderful landscape, traditions, etc. Far from being a 'squalid, miserable class country', we are a proud nation with, for such a small island, a brilliant track record in all fields. You, on the other hand, are just a sad whinging internet warrior with no merit. A sorry indictment of what America has become. Have a nice day.
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  705. J Anderson  So, you mention 'reasonable logic', yet in the same post reveal you have none: quelle surprise! How is THE KNOWN FACT that there have been homosexuals all through recorded history related to THE KNOWN FACT that we are born this way? They are two different subjects, sad man! By the way, I have all the proof I need that I was born to be homosexual, the fact that I knew I was different at a very early age despite not knowing any gays......in fact not knowing gays existed! I am 'pushing' nothing, ignorant fool, just stating the way things are. So now you say there is 'evident proof' against this?  Sigh......ok, I'll bite ( although I've seen you liars say this many times in the past, but it ALWAYS turns out to be unsubstantiated religionist nonsense)......how is the known fact (i.e. known by me, through personal experience) that I was born to be gay wrong? Are YOU going to be the first to follow through with your claim by showing me unbiased proof?  I think not.  Ffs, J, you spout so much verbose crap, using the same old FAILED nonsense, but it all adds up to a big fat zero. Homosexual molestation of children?!?  Ye gods, it would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic!  Now, I see you are still unwilling to provide proof of your assertion that those evil 20th century despots were atheists. HOW UNUSUAL!!!   Lol, sorry about that, I can't help but be sarcastic. After all, you have never given any proof whatsoever to back up ANY of your claims. Look, J, I escaped the insanity of your twisted version of religion many decades ago: why on earth would you think I could for one second return to that madness? Sorry to blow my own trumpet (lol) but my life is great. I love, and am loved. I am doing what everyone should do......living my one life to the best of my abilities. Are YOU loved, J?
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  846. Citizen of Kekistan  Utter bs....if you're going to assert it is a 'mental illness' you really need to give your credentials/ qualifications for stating such nonsense. I've always found it funny how you types always claim it is a left versus right subject, and obfuscate the left is being intolerant of others views, when it is you who lack empathy for trans folk. Generally speaking, the trans I have known in the past have no strong political leanings one way or the other, they simply want the support they need, and have been denied for far too long. There are many who, when given this support and understanding, go on to do rather well in life. One in particular I know of was the head of the engineering dept. at the Yorkshire Post newspaper, in my neck of the woods. She was a tough, no-nonsense type who had no qualms about getting her hands dirty when problems arose, and was spectacularly successful in her job. I have nothing but admiration for such people, who succeed in spite of the hatred and bigotry you types throw at them. You could say they have, er, balls (sorry, couldn't resist). 'Conservatives have demonstrated this that beliefs are key'......what on earth are you talking about?!?  Stop waffling and focus, man. And far from being hypocritical 'Liberals' (again, not a left/right issue) are simply supporting a section of society who you types simply cannot help but attack. They are showing the empathy that you are obviously lacking. It's one of the most important of human qualities.
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  1088. Michael Mariner   Thank you for ignoring the points I made in my last post: it confirms what I suspected, that you are just a knuckle dragging waste of space, with no viable points to make. Another stupid tin-hat wearing conspiracy theorist nutter shouting BENGHAZI at any poor unfortunate within shouting distance. I cannot express enough the amount of utter contempt I have for you pathetic minions, who scream 'Fake News' at anyone who gives you known facts that go against your beloved Cheetoh in chief.....you are a complete disgrace to your country. Your dear leader has had nearly two years to investigate Benghazi, but what do we have?  A Big. Fat. NOTHING! Your lies are contemptible, sad man, and are damaging your country. Like I have said, when I first started visiting the US, in the '80's, we all looked up to the US: but those days are long gone.....we just shake our heads in sadness at how it's infested with you conspiracy nutters and fundie extremists. It's truly shocking what you minions have done to your country with your insistence that trickle down economics will eventually work for you The 1% are laughing at you as they toss you crumbs!   So now you mention the debt. Ok, let's look at the facts(unlike you lot, I don't do fake news): As per usual, the economy turned to shit under a Republican administration, in this case that of George W. That is what caused the debt to spiral out of control.....it was only 10 short years ago, ffs, but you fuckwits never seem to remember these FACTS, lol. The actions of Obama saved your country from a second Great Depression, but of course you LIARS dismiss this known fact as 'Fake News'. He made a good stab at bringing the debt under control and if the Republican controlled Houses hadn't been hell-bent on thwarting his every move he would have been able to do even more. I will never forget the disgusting tactics they used against him.....they were putting party above country. As are you. And now what's happening after 2 years of trump-chaos?  The debt is once again spiralling ever upwards. THOSE are the facts of the debt, you complete waste of space!
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  1404. vadouis You know, all the terms I have applied to you are fully justified and true. You HAVE NOT refuted them! Whereas the terms you have aimed at me are demonstrably false. Such as ‘disturbed’....the fact I have the time and will to counter your pathetic nonsense does NOT make me disturbed! A ‘bully’ (aimed at LGBT as a demographic). I have already explained that we are simply using the tactics other oppressed groups such as Suffragettes have used, and I note you haven’t labelled THEM as bullies....smh. ‘Paedophile sympathisers’ (again, as a group). For this claim alone you disgust me....I cannot possibly hold you in more contempt than I do now. We most definitely DO NOT hold with paedophilia you pathetic specimen, as we know how it damages/ruins the lives of the victims. Etc. Etc. NONE of the accusations hold true, and the discredited, utterly biased ‘surveys’ you have used ( many from the last century, ffs!) hold no sway with experts in the field today....with good reason. If the accusations you’ve levelled at me were true I would own up to them; I would OWN them! The claims I have made about you ARE true, so come on , vadouis, OWN them! Wear them with pride....they are who you are. And now I see you are calling me a ‘hypocrite’. Sigh, here we go again! Ok, sad specimen, answer this; HOW am I a hypocrite’? Is it because I have the utter gall to counter your religious extremism and nutjobbery? Don’t worry, I fully expect you to ignore my question just as you have with almost all of my others .... I realised years ago that your kind are rubbish at answering my inconvenient questions, lol.
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  1424. vadouis Wow. Up to now I have pitied you your religious insanity, but with this latest tranche of utter drivel you have sunk to new depths....you DISGUST me! I don’t even know where to begin to answer all your insane posts, but here we go; In all your arguments against homosexuality you have, in fact, been a devious bastard (isn’t lying a sin?) in using OBVIOUSLY BIASED SITES OF RELIGIOUS AND RIGHT WING EXTREMIST NUTJOBBERY. For example, a ten second search of google told me that Eugene Abel is one of you lot, a disgusting creep willing to produce fake facts in support of his agenda. I can not find ANY expert in the field who supports his claims. Needless to say this garbage was from 1987, and we have a far clear knowledge (I.e. unbiased!) of homosexuality these days. In fact, with all your proof/links you seem to have delved far back in support of your twisted nonsense.... and are obviously too stupid to know your supposed to use UNBIASED AND PEER-REVIEWED LINKS to show proof. There is no such proof for Abel’s claims. You disgust me. ‘In a 2001(!) study it was found etc.’ So a small study twenty years ago noted that LGBT were significantly more abused as children....that is unfortunate but it’s telling that no detailed information was given as to why this would be. The article itself ended with the statement that more work needs to be done in this area, but nevertheless I have my own experience, and that of countless LGBT friends I have acquired over the years: the great majority of us WERE NOT MOLESTED IN ANY WAY during childhood. Your end statement relating homosexuality to being a danger to society is pathetic and wrong; It’s PAEDOPHILIA that is the danger you mention! You disgust me. ‘A 1995 (ffs!) issue of guide magazine stated etc.’ Wow....not this old garbage again. This nonsense was debunked long ago and I haven’t heard it from you nutters for many years....just shows how pathetic and desperate you are. The extremists involved in that article were promptly removed from gay organisations, as .....surprise surprise....WE DO NOT SUPPORT PAEDOPHILIA!!! Come on, creep, EVERY group has it’s unhealthy extremists....you of all people should know that!
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  1449. Headless Horseman I praise the lard I am now live my life free of you sorry religious nutters, who INSIST on trying to interfere in our lives when we neither ask nor need you to. ‘Concerned’?!? Hell no.....OBSESSED! You show time and again that you know fuck all about our lives, so let me enlighten you: I grew up in a religious household, and had a generally normal, happy time. Until.... I realised I was interested in boys not girls. That’s when my life went downhill...the priests bellowing from the pulpit that we kids were going to burn forever if we didn’t toe the line certainly didn’t help. THAT how evil you religionists are, sad bigot, shouting that garbage at children! I didn’t have a good time in my teenage years, which I spent in denial of my sexuality, and it didn’t help that I had no one to tell me it’s ok, no role models.....again, I praise the lard gay kids are getting the help they need these days. Luckily I found the strength to break free of your kinds religious insanity, and from then on my life improved immeasurably, to the extent that now, at 61, I can look back at my life with PRIDE. I am surrounded with love; the love of my family, the love of my friends....but most of all the love of my wonderful same sex partner of many years. And all because I made the right decisions when younger. Detrimental, pathetic pos? Lol no....my life is WONDERFUL! And society, those people you belittle so readily, BENEFITS from accepting us with open arms. Have YOU ever experienced love, sad man? No, I think not, smh.
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  1577. Time4 Truth   Yes, I don't live in the US, but I visit regularly and am HORRIFIED by your casual attitude to these continuing atrocities. I won't capitalise this because sometimes it diminishes the point in some peoples eyes, but you need to change your thought: you need to do something! No, I have never tried to get a gun , because ( here's the important part!) we don't need them in the UK. For all your pathetic wailing that it took you 2-3 months ( FFS) to get your hands on one, it doesn't negate the fact that far too many unstable people are able to easily get hold of them in your country. Of course I show interest in the US, it is after all still vital to the safety of the West.As for you continuing to bring up the UK crime statistics why would I be upset by that......they are a tiny fraction of yours!  You know, one thing I've noticed about so many of you Americans is your paranoia: no, your government is not going to turn tyrannical ( in spite of your current administration), it will take far more instability to do so. And why do you types always bring up Venezuela???  We all know that country is at present a basket case, but what the hell does it have to do with this discussion? I have read 1984, and Animal Farm, and yet again have to ask: what has this to do with our discussion? Don't bother answering, I know the answer: as I previously mentioned, you are paranoid. Soros? Gates?  FFS, will you Americans PLEASE start thinking for yourselves instead of being suckered in to the Breitbart/Fox News/Republican ideology?
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  1819. Bobby Hawkins  My god, what a verbose piece of utter nonsense! When you say you are not religious are you saying you do not follow any god? I only ask because I have seen posts from god-botherers before who lie that they 'are not religious'! Speaking from the UK we do not have to put up with the kind of hysterical nonsense you types spout in the US......why on earth would you think for a nano-second that we would go back to the bad old days when we had to hide our sexuality?!?  WE HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE FROM! I'm a 59 years old gay male with a much-loved partner of many years, and all of my friends, family, neighbours etc. support us 100%. 'Most sane people'???  You don't know the meaning of the word!  I have heard so many lies from you lot, including kids in ss households are somehow "damaged".....if they are it's usually because of bullying from people like YOU. I personally have encountered/know many same-sex couples who are raising children, and they are generally doing a great job: the kids are growing up just fine. Thriving, in fact. So once again, are you telling the truth when you say you don't follow any god? I have to say you really DO come across as a homophobic religious nutter! "45% per cent of kids molested are boys molested by homosexual men". You sad, ridiculous waste of space! Having no valid reasoning you resort to outright lies. Give proof for your evil crap, idiot. Most people these days have no problem with LGBT issues.....you just need to go back to the Dark Ages where you belong!
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  1889. Dena Campbell   You know, with every post you prove my point about you being a low quality piece of humanity.....your 'points', cut-and pasted from your extremist websites, are all lies that no longer work for you. The only people who believe such ridiculous nonsense are your fellow religious nutters, who are slowly dwindling: like I said, and which (of course) you ignore, no-one of any worth believes your crap these days.  1. Your religion is akin to Islam, in that both have destroyed countless innocent lives. You are a LIAR.  2. Of course homosexuality is natural, for those of us who are gay. If you were truly a lesbian you would know that. You are a LIAR. 3. There is no peace in your twisted version of religion, only hatred for those who cannot think as you. You are a LIAR. 4. You have ignored my point about you types trying to turn back the clock and take our rights away, and that some states deny still deny us many rights. You are a LIAR. 5. Do you not remember the hatred and violence accorded us in the past, "lesbian"?  OF COURSE we needed safe spaces. But we are no longer vulnerable: you hate-filled religious extremists no longer have the power to damage our lives. Yes, disgusting creature, I do have a spine, as do so many LGBT, which is why we are in the situation we are in, with the vast majority now on our side. I 'grew up' many decades ago! 6. In spite of your pathetic rantings, we are indeed getting close to achieving equal rights, through the struggles of many past activists who are no longer with us (and make no mistake, we will never forget what they went through at the hands of you disgusting bigots) and the struggles WE have been through, and which, of course, you choose to ignore. The many happy, successful same sex households I have encountered who are generally doing a great job raising children show that homosexuality is absolutely natural...for homosexuals! And proves my point that you are a LIAR. 7. Your petty and murderous "creator" has never existed.....but if he did he would certainly have a lot to answer for. The only hell there is is right here on earth for far too many people: your "god" is nowhere to be seen. 8. Every point you have made is tired, worn-out, and wrong....I have seen you saddoes use them countless times, and they no longer work for you. Nobody cares about your twisted extremist version of religion any more, Dena: you have lost, while on this topic, the rest of society has won. As I said, my partner and I are surrounded by the love of our friends and family, and that is all we need and ask for: we are happy. We know we are living our one life the way it was meant to be lived: the way God made us. Is that too much emotion for you, sad little girl? May I repeat: your LIES no longer work for you!
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  1926. QuartuvLarry     Ah, the old "it's a strawman" rubbish......how utterly predictable of you to use a worn out, useless ploy of the right.  So, let's go over my posts: I refuted your statement 'you mean proof OTHER than the fact that they are psychologically living in a state of denial' by pointing out that just because that is your personal opinion it in no way whatsoever counts as proof. Hmm, no strawman there. Ok, let's continue; I have stated that transgender people have been serving in various countries militaries for very many years without serious incident, and that if they're strong enough to survive the training they are deserving of the chance to serve. Again, no strawman, it pertains to our discussion. I have never said the incidence of suicide attempts by this group are not higher than in the general population.......of course they are ( to a large extent due to the narrow-minded bigotry of you idiots, I might add). But the strength of transgenders who have served in the military for many years is plain to see.......in spite of the extra obstacles they may endure they cause no problems. You have no basis nor examples to support your 'argument'.  Look, I get it: you simply do not like transgender people. It seeps through every one of your posts.....you wish they didn't exist. But they DO exist.....always have done, and always will. I realised a long time ago you types need to have someone to look down on to function:  a few years back it was gays, but (most) of you have realised you lost that one, so have moved on to the next vulnerable group. And you're too stupid to realise you have lost this one also. The US will do the right, fair thing in the end, just as it has done with other issues of equality, and will catch up with other more enlightened countries. Yes, your beloved man-child will try to slow down that process, but reason will prevail in the end: history will not look back kindly on his chaotic reign. So I repeat: you are too stupid to realise you have lost. You have nothing. Time to look into those adult education classes, Q!
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  2052. Jay Cee Oh dear, ANOTHER false assumption about me.... you simply cannot help yourself can you, religious obsessive! Thank you for once again proving my point that YOU are the one making false assumptions and assertions here. And now, instead of countering my points, such as those in my last three posts, you throw your dummy out of the pram by accusing me of being ‘a child’ (see what I did there, lol). Well no, as I said....and of course, you ignored.....I am PASSIONATE about highlighting how disgusting and irrelevant your twisted version of religion is. You types simply cannot get away with spouting your nonsense these days as you used to without being called out. I give up on demanding an answer as to how I’ve been ‘prideful’....it’d be like flogging a dead horse. Instead I will go on to your false assertion that I’m insecure. No. The only time in my life when I WAS insecure was in my late teens when I was mired in religious indoctrination. But believe me, it was far worse than being insecure....I needed help but there was no one. Happily for me I somehow eventually found the strength to free myself from my bonds and have never looked back since. The decisions I made then secured me the happy life I now have, surrounded by love. At 62 I can look back with quiet pride (oh bollocks). Lol. With not a shred of insecurity whatsoever. Indeed, you have shown far more insecurity in your persistence; anyone who’s confident in their religious stance would have given up on me long ago, realising I’m not going to change my views at this stage, and would move on to snaring another poor sucker into your web of religious nutjobbery. As I’ve said, it is YOU who have been making false claims here, with not a shred of proof to back up the existence of your god...I have only been doing my job of telling the truth. For insecurity I suggest you look in the mirror.
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  2066. Jay Cee ‘What makes you think anyone is innocent?’ ‘That means we’re all evil, by default’. ‘I never said that we “deserve” Hell or that we’re all guilty from the start’. What ‘changing back’ am I doing, Jay? As far as I can see it is YOU who are using such obfuscations by making the first two statements and then going back on them by saying you never said we’re all guilty from the start. I mean, at what age DO you think we change to ‘being evil’ and are therefore worthy of hell? Six, maybe? Twelve? Who exactly is doing the misleading here, Jay? It certainly isn’t me....I am not the one making false statements about the other. ‘Those people are letting pride make those decisions for them’. Wow. Crass, childish and utterly false; please explain WHAT pride has to do with the ability to reason and think for oneself. We don’t need to ‘deal with it’ as far as the man made concept of hell is concerned....that particular part of mythology is YOURS to be concerned with, and certainly not our problem. The only thing you have to back up your nonsense is your twisted book of mythology. Now, if you want to believe such disgusting garbage as the story of children taunting a baldy man and getting ripped apart by a bear, or that any god worth his salt would want his servant to prove he loved his god by slaughtering his son, then that is your concern. I have no problem with you believing such evil garbage.....UNTIL you attempt to threaten the rest of us into believing your nonsense. And that is exactly the crux, Jay....you ARE using threats of eternal damnation! Because that’s how weak your religion is! In saying you have the bible what you’re really saying is.....you have nothing.
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