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  51. The main issue with China's unwillingness to shift from investment to consumption is - control 1. Putting hands in the consumer means less for the State, which means less control of where money goes by the government and more control by the consumer... who wouldn't pour it into sectors they deem as "critical" for global dominance and state power. 2. This part I think is more ideological (but the current guy seems to very much be about ideology) in that by putting hands in the consumer, and relinquishing control, it begs the question of if the party would become less relevant. If people have the money and are driving the growth - why would the party be so important? Why give up so much freedom and choice in decisions when they are the ones driving things? People may want greater say in decision making, civil liberties, and rights. 3. People who consume more and have higher standards of living tend to expect more social services. This sounded weird to me at first but this economic effect seems to be well documented that as people have higher standards of living - so goes their expectations from their governments on continually improving social services. It kind of reminds me of the Shanghai lockdowns and how the people in the richer downtown areas got good food while people even 1 hour out from the downtown went days or a week + without food options. And the quality of what was given was far less. People in downtown would've rioted if they got the treatment of people on the outskirts...People with higher standards of living won't put up with what they are getting now. Anyways I think a lot of it comes down to not wanting to give up control, influence, and an unwillingness to admit their economic model not being the best relative to the more liberal economies.
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  1130.  @Fauzanarief-n7i  ​It's over a 10 year period, so I don't think the issue of raw materials or manpower is a credible factor, in my opinion. The bill says it prioritizes sourcing for the US on materials but exceptions will be made if there is not enough domestic supply or the cost is too high. So yeah, I just don't see that being an issue or a need to "match" China in production. Also I'd note that US manufacturing and manufacturing moving into China is more a thing of the past. China is getting much more expensive to produce in, plus a lot other uncertainties, that now there is the problem of manufacturing leaving China for places like Vietnam, India, Mexico. Private property rights in the US have always been an issue in terms of building infrastructure. However, most of the hard-infrastructure spending is going towards updating/modernizing already built infrastructure. Even in rural America - it's still developed infrastructure (ie: roads, bridges, water systems, etc) it just old and needs to be updated. There won't be any new giant bridges or massive new highways being built that were not there already. So I don't think property rights should be a giant issue. China definitely has it's advantages in building things due to costs and lack of property rights. However, what I've personally saw in China when I lived there, was actual new infrastructure being built...ie: new highways, new bridges, tunnels, buildings, etc... I think that is a lot different then what then US is planning to do with this bill
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  1563.  @MB2.0  Absolutely false. Of course they are interconnected...it's the only thing preventing a true cold war. However - The US economy is much more open to Chinese economy than vice versa. China's economy is still pretty closed off compared to the rest of the world. What this mean is the US is less exposed to China than China is to the US. You will tell me I'm wrong but this is the objective truth. If push comes to shove though, and China takes action against Taiwan - the US will absolutely sanction them and it will hurt much more than what happened to Russia. Here is why - China relies on imports of food (a lot they get from the US), oil, and advanced manufacturing of chips and equipment. Most of which is traded on the US dollar. If the US reaaaallly wanted to - it could stop food imports, sanction oil and everything traded on the dollar, and the Chinese economy would be done in a year. They could also send one nuclear powered carrier to the Persian Gulf and block oil imports. China's navy still runs on fuel and doesn't have the range to sail to the Persian gulf to stop an oil embargo. I don't think the US would do that, because believe it or not it actually cares about the lives of people in China. Plus taking such strong action like that against a country would only be warranted if something big happed, such as: Russia invading Ukraine, or China invading Taiwan China actually knows this vulnerability and is the reason why they haven't invaded Taiwan yet, or shot down Pelosi's plane. They absolutely will not invade Taiwan until they can guard against these sanctions and the US dollar.... + build up their military more
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  1565.  @marktn9851  I think that is the Chinese point of view, but it's not the view of many Asian countries who actually want the US to counter-balance what they see is an aggressive and assertive China. These countries are: Japan, S. Korea, Australia, the Philippines, and India. These are all US allies, with the exception of India (informal ally). Keep in mind it was not the US who launched missiles into the waters around Taiwan and into Japan's EEZ. It's also not the US who had a conflict with India on their border just recently. It is not the US who basically claimed the entire South China Sea for itself, at the expense of all of the countries who depend on it for their economies - and all because of an "ancient map" that was supposedly found. China also claimed they would not militarize the South China Sea - and they did exactly that. These are all extremely aggressive actions on the part of China since Xi took power. It seems the "Apex Predator" is behaving just as that - using it's newfound strength to overpower smaller countries and economies. The US has had military bases in countries that asked for it all around the world for many years, long before any issues with China. You're talk of biolabs makes me think you might believe those conspiracy theories about US biolabs making Covid or bioweapons, or something. And yes, the US has made many mistakes in the past with wars and a ton of other issues. No doubt about it - but that does not excuse China's behavior now. It's not one is wrong and one is right, or that US has been wrong so it doesn't matter what China does. Any country that does bad things should be held accountable, and China is not exempt from this. A small history lesson: One of the main reasons China has risen is because of globalization that came from the Freedom Of Navigation (FON) principle and the rules based order that was set up and led by the US after WWII. This made the waters of the ocean safe and allowed globalization to occur. The very same globalization that allowed to China to use the global oceans to sell to the entire world, and import vast amount of natural resources, like: oil, minerals, steel, etc etc. Especially given that China had zero functional navy at the time and had no way to protect it's shipments. If you don't believe me, you can look this up as it's documented world history. The very same freedom of navigation principle that the allowed China to rise - is now being violated in the South China Sea, by none other than the PRC. So yes the US has done many atrocious things in history. Nobody is here to say the US has a clean record, if that's what you think. But do not forget that two "wrongs" do not make a "right", and that the US has also done many things that has benefited the globe and allowed countries (especially China) to grow immensely and create a middle class. This is not taught or talked about in China because in China, America = "bad guy". But it is the truth, and it'd be wise for the CCP to keep this in mind when blaming the US for all of it's problems, and taking sole credit for everything that China has become.
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  2271. ​ @elenekuprashvili1145  The US dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan in World War II. This was due to Japan having military installations in the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. These installations were producing weapons and other products for their military to fuel their invasions elsewhere. The US dropped leaflets from planes, days before the bombings to warn the civilians what was to come, and to give them enough time to evacuate. So, it is not as if the US just dropped nuclear bombs with the intentions to kill civilians. Let me also add that doing this actually stopped Japan in World War II, and saved many lives - including Chinese lives. Japan was in the process of invading China at the time the bombs were dropped. If you read Chinese history books, they will tell you that China actually defeated Japan all on their own. With that said, the nuclear bombs being dropped in WWII are still a very debated and controversial issue in the US. This is because the US has the ability to self-reflect and is capable of admitting mistakes, so it can learn from them. How many times has the CCP admitted to making mistakes? People in China are not even allowed to criticize the government publicly. They even get in trouble for doing it overseas. How can a government learn from mistakes if they cannot even admit they have made any? I'm not sure why you are bringing up Nazi's. I was talking about all of the countries that China has invaded... and yes, they have invaded countries. You can look up the things I'm talking about on google. You'll never be told that China invaded anybody in Chinese history books or on the Chinese internet though, because that has been omitted. But it's documented world history. The CCP also allowed 43 million of it's own people to die during the great famine. btw - 什么你的真名。
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  2683. ​ @62gkm  So, I think a child or a simpleton could easily be fooled by the optics "US sending official to see dictator.. this = weak US.". And this is exactly what Chinese propaganda is trying to propagate right now. A smarter individual would look a bit deeper at actual policy: 1. The US has a stranglehold on China's chip and AI sector...this prevents military and technological advancements. 2. The US also has imposed harsh tariffs that China still wants off. So it begs the question... if the US is asking for help - what exactly are they asking for that China has to give? Nothing that I can see. What is the US actually offering to concede in terms of tariffs and export controls? Nothing that I can see. Who's economy is in a stronger position right now? Well US's economy is too hot and has too low unemployment and has to raise interest rates to intentionally cool it down, China has the opposite problem...record youth unemployment of 20% and likely higher since the always make the numbers look better than they are. China's actually debt to GDP rate is over double the US's and they're far less developed. China still requires the US for access to key technologies. US businesses are finding other markets for their supply chains: Vietnam, India, Mexico, etc... China has a shrinking population problem that will make growth harder in the future. So, again, look at what is actually true - vs simply optics. The US is simply being diplomatic, because they know they hold all the cards. China is in trouble, and it's why they are going on Press tours begging the world not to diversify their supply chains.
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  2869.  @jiaao86  我的朋友们都是爱国的勤劳人,他们热爱自己的国家、国家取得的成就以及国人。他们只是不喜欢现在的领导层。这就是为什么看到治理的衰退让他们感到痛心。中国人有很大一部分财富都投入到了房地产中,所以其影响和利益触及非常广泛。中国政府其实做对了一件事,那就是停止了房地产市场的庞氏骗局,问题是这个问题被放任太久了……远远超出了应有的限度。早就知道这是一个问题,但是腐败和错误的激励机制让它持续了太久。中央政府现在需要介入,帮助那些人民。政府现在正在出于绝望,将补贴从房地产转向制造业……他们需要找到新的增长动力。真正的前进道路不是将资金从房地产转向制造业,而是通过将资金返还给人民来促进消费。一个很好的方式是增加低收入人群的社会安全网。他们不愿意这样做,因为金钱意味着权力和控制……控制是他们想要保持的。中国可能会说它希望自己的福利和工作待遇能与西方看齐——但行动在哪里?相反,这些钱被用来建造登月的宇宙飞船,贷款给其他国家用于基础设施项目,以及建造更多的战舰。 顺便说一句,我并不是说西方是完美的……没有哪个系统是完美的。我想说的是中国可以为其人民做得更好,也许一个愿意听取批评并对其人民更有责任感的政府系统会是一种改进,即使它并不完全模仿西方民主制度。
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  3125.  @wolverine9377  ​Nobody actually knows what the real unemployment is in China because the government lies. They always say it's between 5-5.5%. By their own admission, they have stated that youth unemployment right now is 20%..which means it's probably more. Your comment about population shows your ignorance. In a population, you have some young, working age, and old..and not all populations are the same. China has the fastest aging population in human history - due to rapid urbanization and the one child policy. China has way too many old people, and not enough young people. It is losing immense amount of working age population every year because they are going into retirement age... and there are not enough young people to replace them. By the end of the decade - this will be undeniable and you will see what I mean. I won't even engage with you on real estate because you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. You sound like somekind of nationalist or something that is just defending China nomatter what. Mark my words: The Chinese real estate sector is in crisis. You will know this soon BTW - houses in 1st tier cities are just as expensive as in the west and if you compare those prices to the average income of the population - much more expensive than in western countries....and are shittier quality. If you are Chinese than you know exactly what I'm talking about. China has bought off Africa and all of the countries in their belt and road. One reason they choose poor, developing countries is because they're desperate, easy to exploit and bribe their leaders. This way China can exploit them of their land and resources. It's a disgusting practice and hypocritical of a regime that complains about colonialism and imperialism. China has no real friends or allies - everybody who stands by them has been bought off with money, or fear. China has rough times ahead of it. It's mismanagement of the economy, population, and geopolitics mean much slower growth for the rest of the decade - and stagnation after 2030. Like Japan, but much much worse
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  3126.  @wolverine9377  ​Nobody actually knows what the real unemployment is in China because the government lies. They always say it's between 5-5.5%. By their own admission, they have stated that youth unemployment right now is 20%..which means it's probably more. Your comment about population shows your ignorance. In a population, you have some young, working age, and old..and not all populations are the same. China has the fastest aging population in human history - due to rapid urbanization and the one child policy. China has way too many old people, and not enough young people. It is losing immense amount of working age population every year because they are going into retirement age... and there are not enough young people to replace them. By the end of the decade - this will be undeniable and you will see what I mean. I won't even engage with you on real estate because you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. You sound like somekind of nationalist or something that is just defending China nomatter what. Mark my words: The Chinese real estate sector is in crisis. You will know this soon BTW - houses in 1st tier cities are just as expensive as in the west and if you compare those prices to the average income of the population - much more expensive than in western countries....and are shittier quality. China has bought off Africa and all of the countries in their belt and road. One reason they choose poor, developing countries is because they're desperate, easy to exploit and bribe their leaders. This way China can exploit them of their land, resources, and UN votes. It's a disgusting practice and hypocritical of a regime that complains about colonialism and imperialism. China has no real friends or allies - everybody who stands by them has been bought off with money, or fear. China has rough times ahead of it. It's mismanagement of the economy, population, and geopolitics mean much slower growth for the rest of the decade - and stagnation after 2030. Like Japan, but much much worse
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