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  41. The Tory creed is that the poor deserve to be poor because it is their own fault. This is fundamentally wrong and immoral, of course, but this is the dystopia we live in. The largest fall in living standards since the 1950s makes little difference to the big picture, which is that working people will continue to vote against their own self interest by aiding and abetting the return of the Conservatives at the next election. Labour has been in power for around 30 years of the last 120 yet the penny has still not dropped- Conservativism is bad for individual and the nation's health. Political literacy is so low in this country and levels of masochism so high that the punishment meted out by the Conservatives in the 21st century iteration of feudalism is embraced by millions who show no inclination to challenge their own thinking and the egregious policies of a government that clearly does not serve the best interests of the majority in society. The Conservatives won big in 1931 ( National Government) and 1935 despite the poverty of the interwar years they created. Ditto in 1983, 1987 and 1992 despite destroying the economy and social fabric ( if I had a pound for every time someone praised Thatcher for taming the unions for at least twenty years after she took office, I would be a millionaire) and in 2015 and 2019 despite needless, cruel and economically illiterate austerity which not only caused thousands of deaths ( fact) but inhibited recovery. Countries with strong unions co-existing with the state have less inequality and more stable economies. Not Britain. Nothing is going to change- that ship sailed with the Corbyn interregnum.
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  412.  @gerardmackay8909 I lived through the Blair/ Brown era and there is a whole raft of legislation that was implemented which did a lot of good, there is no denying that. However, on the economy Blair accepted the Thatcherite settlement instead of reversing it as Labour should and could have done easily with a huge majority. Thatcherism is the root cause of every problem plaguing Britain- we live in Thatcher's Britain due to the egregious effects of her policies and Labour's failure to reverse her creed. Most voters who switched to Labour in 1997 identified with Tory policies, thus there was no shift to the left in the country under FPTP. But Labour could have done so much more to build a fairer society and prevent income inequality from widening further while in office, as it has continued to relentlessly since 2010. The left behind voted for Brexit in large numbers in 2016 because their lives had not improved. It was against their best interests, of course. You mention the minimum wage- while better than the alternative it was set too low and allowed employers to avoid paying a living wage. Tax credits also subsidised low wages. If John Smith has become PM, although he was on the right of the party he would not have shifted even further to the right as Blair did, inequality would have been substantially reduced, left and right could have co-existed effectively together, and there would have been no Iraq in all likelihood. I can still remember the shock of his death in May 1994 and exactly where I was when I was told. Britain has been ill served by so many of its politicians but he was an exception and exceptional individual.
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  429. He wrote a book a few years ago about money ( not Britannia Unhinged to which he contributed) and demanded to be told by Larry Elliot one of the judges why it did not win. This was at the ceremony. David Dimbleby said on the BBC last week that when Kwarteng was on QT he was voluble, which I took to be an implicit criticism. He did not elaborate but the point was made. Arrogance is a major problem in the UK and has been for years. In many other nations it is possible to combine a host of leadership qualities without the posturing and conceit so prevalent in the British political class. Arrogance is seen in many aspects of the culture, especially in football. I dread to think how Britain is going to cope with issues in the next thirty years because its education system is mostly poor and will not produce the calibre of leader (in all fields) needed to navigate a complex world. One thing Labour must do if it forms a government is strengthen the civil service as this is one area of public life that it was still producing people of intelligence and wisdom committed to providing impartial advice (and still does), until the Conservatives decided to wage war against it, a process that began under Johnson. Sacking the Permanent Secretary to the Treasury and his deputy (still not replaced) shows staggering arrogance and political naivety. The public is paying the price for Truss and Kwarteng's colossal errors, and they will face a political reckoning in the next few months or at the ballot box.
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  459.  @steveparker8065  Lack of support for unions is definitely a huge part of the problem and the anti trade union laws should have been reversed by the Blair government, but of course were not in order to appease the establishment and define the government against those it should have been supporting in terms of workers' rights. It is a vicious circle of anti union legislation, public apathy towards the concept of unions and not enough individuals seeing the importance in joining a union and being active. I have witnessed the apathy in the workplace. Some unions just describe the problem and pay lip service to conditions of service issues, of which pay is usually the most important. Certainly, in countries with strong unions there is less inequality; changing the UK economic model to strengthen the role of unions is key but I cannot see it happening in the next few decades. Thatcherism has had such a deep and deleterious impact on the economy and society that its tenets are hard baked into the fabric of almost every aspect of life, probably more than anywhere else, except perhaps America. No coincidence that her and Reagan were the standard bearers who carried neoliberalism into government in the late seventies/ early eighties, doing the bidding of the libertarian ideologues agitating since the 1950s for deregulation. The unions are going to look stupid if they settle for paltry sums ( notwithstanding the tactic of asking for more than you are likely aiming for), and it will undermine their ability to secure good pay deals in future if the government sees that they are a pushover.
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  492.  @enlightenme8524 The problem is too deep seated for anything meaningful to be done to address it. It is too far gone. One union with a much more proactive leadership is needed but there is no sign of that happening. Teachers need to show solidarity across the board in the workplace and support for the union but that is not going to happen. Bullying is rife in education and needs to be tackled but it will not be any time soon. Managers are, in practical terms, not accountable for their actions except in rare instances. Teachers need to stop moaning as a substitute for action and ditch the idea that conditions of service are more important than pay- it is both that matter and it should be possible to hold two ideas in the mind at once- they are not mutually exclusive. Poor behaviour is not being dealt with properly in many schools and is worsening significantly. An OFSTED report in 2014 said up to a day of learning is lost in some schools per week due to so called low level disruption- it will be a lot worse nearly ten years later. Staff are often not supported over the simplest issue when they try to enforce the school's own rules, and parents appeased time and again, which undermines teachers. The NEU said recently that behaviour is not a major concern of members- if true, this shows that disruption to learning and appalling lack of respect for people trying to do their job has become normalised. Funding needs to increase but even if it did ( it won't) a root and branch review of the basics would be needed to address the multi layered problems in schools that are rendering many of them dysfunctional places. Anyone who can leave teaching should do so as it is not worth the pressure and stress for hourly pay that is little more than £10 an hour for a 60 hour plus week.
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  615.  @aaronaaronson7600  I am not optimistic. I think the chances of improvement are close to zero because all of the main parties are committed to neoliberalism, the root cause of all the problems plaguing Britain. We live in Thatcher's Britain due to the egregious effects of her policies. Most people do not understand its pervasive impact because it is embedded so much in the fabric of society. She converted Labour from socialism and described 'new' Labour as her greatest triumph. Starmer needs to be removed as Labour leader- he is the opposite of what the party and country needs. Unless neoliberalism is reversed, there is no prospect of Britain climbing out of the sewer it is in. It is an economic basket case with an unstable, weak economy that does not work for the majority- wages are lower in real terms in 2023 than in 2008 when the financial crash occurred. Society is fractured, divided over many issues, including relations with Europe. Britain has always been right wing, except for brief interludes such as 1945-1951, but the right has won so comprehensively that it was possible to demonise the manifestos of 2017 and 2019 ( Labour) as extremist/ communist/ radical left, when in reality they were to the right of the 1945 manifesto. Most people have no idea of left from right- talk of centrism beggars belief when it is actually right wing. Austerity was even described as centrist a couple of weeks ago, which shows how far down the right wing rabbit hole the UK has tumbled. So in short, no reason for hope. That ship has sailed and it is why Corbyn has to be stopped by the establishment.
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  687. I do not know if any school has insisted on permission being sought to pick up a pen. But poor behaviour, disengagement and outright hostility to any form of authority are major issues in many parts of the UK education system. Poor parenting is the root cause as students spend 80% of their time outside of school. How they are brought up in the first five years determines outcomes later on in life. Many parents cannot control their own children and do not want to take responsibility for doing so. Others do not know how to as the 'art' of parenting has been lost in many cases for a number of reasons, including selfishness, not spending time speaking as a family, distractions in the form of electronic media, and the long hours culture in the UK that means a lot of parents do not see their children much across the week. The social contract between parents and schools is breaking down but I guarantee that if schools become lax on expectations as some are now advocating, behaviour will worsen and more students will not be able to learn. OFSTED is not fit for purpose but in 2014 a report found that in some schools up to a day a week of learning is lost due to so called low level disruption- it will be a lot worse now. Many teachers cannot control their classes, there is inconsistency across schools ( even allowing for different styles and personalities- you need different types of teachers in schools), and very often managers do not provide the support they are meant to if it is required. Most teachers try to resolve issues themselves in the first instance, rightly so. But many managers do not command the respect of students and teachers are blamed for poor behaviour they simply should not have to put up with as part of the job. Education is broken and no-one knows how to fix it. The parents who resented authority when they were at school have won though and Britain will pay the price for decades as a consequence when it finds many of today's generation are not equipped to cope with the requirements of the workplace.
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  942.  @brynleytalbot778  Perhaps. UK productivity has been poor for forty years and policy makers have failed to address it. One of the key reasons unemployment has been relatively low in the UK ( although at least 1 million throughout the interwar years was far more controversial then) recently is that it takes two or three people to do the same work as one in France, even with the 35 hour week ( subject to some exemptions). The French approach is to work quite intensely on the task in hand without dead time and they find time for a two hour lunch. There are many reasons for low UK productivity, including lack of investment in training and skills. The education system is patently not fit for purpose, with huge numbers leaving at 16 without 5 good passes at GCSE, including Maths and English. Poor literacy and numeracy should be a national scandal but the education sector is very good at brushing its failures under the carpet and singing its own praises- no-one should arrive to secondary school unable to read and write to the expected standard unless they have special needs, which is obviously where more support is needed to help them catch up with their peers. There are major problems in education with recruitment and retention, disaffection by increasing numbers of students and a curriculum that does not accommodate the needs of the individual. I dread to think how this is going to feed into productivity in the next 15 years- it is going to be grim because the workforce is going to lack the necessary aptitude and work ethic needed to compete with other countries where attitudes to education are much better. Neither Labour or the Tories have had a proper industrial strategy for the last forty years, and Britain has floundered for a long time relative to many other nations. If the 1970s and 1980s was about the slow decline of the UK despite surface appearances to the contrary for some of the time, the economic model is in danger of imploding in the next two decades. The Germans got it right with the split between vocational and academic, whereas Britain blew the historic opportunity to chart the right course under the Butler Act 1944- the grammar schools were and are divisive, and the technical schools in the middle between grammars and secondary moderns were few and far between, and almost an afterthought.
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  1010. Well said. There are myriad other issues too that are not discussed. Education is in a serious mess that the educational establishment will not address. Standards are poor with high levels of illiteracy and innumeracy. Indiscipline in schools has been a problem for well over a decade- an OFSTED report of 214 said that in some schools up to a day a week is lost in learning due to so called low level disruption ( a misnomer that shows how poor behaviour has been normalised for so long as most poor behaviour stops lessons in one form or another). It will be far worse now. Many teachers lack either the will or skill to control a class, and often receive no support which compounds the issues. Persistent absence is very high and I guarantee nothing will be done to stop it. A parliamentary select committee has launched an enquiry but it will lead nowhere. The recruitment and retention crisis is worsening year on year. In a few short years the workforce will simply not be fit for purpose because of what is happening in schools now- watch this space. Neither the Conservatives or Labour have an industrial strategy and chronic underinvestment in industry will ensure anaemic performance. Poor productivity has plagued the UK economy since 1980 and there is no indication that anything is being done to address it. The poor attitudes of many students to learning and authority will feed into this. Ali Miraj nailed it in his comments about schools on The Jeremy Vine Programme two days ago. He is on the right but talks a lot of sense on some issues.
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  1183.  @mandywithell  No need to type 'are' in capital letters. The calibre of teachers has declined significantly in the last twenty years, particularly in the last ten. There are excellent teachers, of course, including new entrants to the profession. There should be a good mix of early career teachers, those with a few years experience and others in their forties and fifties ( or sixties if they so choose though not many would) because a school benefits from this in terms of the energy and dynamism of newer teachers alongside the experience of others. Not to say experienced teachers are not dynamic because they often are. But with many over the age of 50 leaving if they can afford to due to disillusionment and untenable workload and a third of new entrants gone within three years, the system is facing meltdown. Poor management is a major issue in schools but no-one is going to admit this never mind tackle it. Bullying is rife in schools- a union survey of 2019 highlighted this with a large number of respondents saying they had been bullied or witnessed it themselves over a relatively short timescale. Lack of support for teachers is engrained in the culture in many schools whereby they are blamed for poor behaviour and how they deal with it. So called low level poor behaviour has been accepted as the norm when it did not used to be- any disruption is a stop to the lesson and inhibits the flow for students and the teacher. Education is broken and cannot improve due to weaknesses in the workforce, lack of funding, lack of parental support and increasingly bold challenges to the most basic exercise of authority by staff simply doing their job in line with school policies. This does not augur well for the next decade or more in Britain. Even if funding levels were restored to pre 2010 levels, there are so many countervailing problems in place now that I really don't think it would make much difference at all. I sincerely hope I am wrong because the future of the economy and well being of society and individuals within it are both at stake.
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  1234.  @ianl1052  The fact is that a lot of care in the NHS is substandard. GPs repeatedly missing serious conditions necessitating several visits before a referral is made, delaying urgent treatment. Too many GPs are arrogant and probably disdain many of the people they treat, with honourable genuinely caring exceptions, of course. They stitched Labour up in 2004 with a deal for a massive hike in pay and less hours. The idea that they are experiencing massive stress is a myth. Average consultation length is seven minutes, which is not safe in terms of the quality of care and diagnosis. GPs themselves have said this. In some areas I am sure they are under more pressure than others and the fear of being sued is very real and must be a cause of deep unease. But they should be working on a Saturday and there should be continuity of care, which will improve efficiency in the system and save lives. Statistics back this up- Phil Whittaker wrote an article in The New Statesman which referenced this. My own experience of the NHS has been mixed but mostly positive, with most people reporting a positive experience when surveyed. But the deification of the NHS needs to stop as it is out of all proportion and certainly was not the case in the seventies and eighties when it was relatively new compared to its age now. PFI was a Conservative policy under Norman Lamont as Chancellor but Labour ran with the ball in order to keep spending under PFI off the books to avoid accusations of profligacy. It also showed a blind faith in the private sector and has not been value for money in any way.
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  1495. Hello Patrick. I am sorry for your loss. Me and my wife have experienced bereavements in shocking and traumatic circumstances in short succession- her grandmother her last surviving relative who brought her up, died of Alzheimer's in 2020 after suffering from it for four years. Less than three weeks later my dad died in a fell walking accident on the Cumbria/ Yorkshire border. A lifelong walker, he had gone out for his first walk since being given the all clear from prostate cancer and once the Covid regulations around movement had been relaxed. There will never be any closure as the inquest was inconclusive as to whether the cause was a fall resulting in a heart attack or the other way around. It transpires someone else died in the same place from a fall a couple of years earlier, which I find disturbing and chilling. I am not religious though my dad was. To lose his life doing the thing that brought him the most comfort and joy is the cruellest irony. Over fifty years up and down the M6 only one last time never to return. Music has been my abiding passion for most of my 53 years but for two years afterwards I could hardly listen to it, which I think must be connected with the sense of dislocation and numbness that ensued. I have since rectified that and it has provided some solace though my bewilderment endures. So many bands and genres have moved me in my life, including the Manics, whose lyrics and authentic spirit resonate with my outlook. I don't know what to believe but it is entirely plausible that consciousness is eternal, in which case perhaps my father is someplace else. If you read this, thank you and I wish you well.
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  1802.  @jamesmeade9501  You made a sensible choice to leave. It got worse when Labour brought in some curriculum reform in 2009 though compared to what followed. Academisation and curriculum reform in 2015 with new A Levels and GCSE from 2016 made it a nightmare. Class sizes of 26 were considered too high in the 1990s but the issue more or less dropped off the radar by around 2005 given the multitude of other issues occurring. It should be a national scandal that nearly eight million adults are functionally illiterate but it is not. Primary schools seem to be very proud of their record even though it is abysmal. By the time students arrive in secondary school, if they cannot read to the expected standard for their age they are unlikely to catch up. Intervention is patchy and rarely makes much difference. Behaviour has deteriorated significantly even though most people, especially management, are in denial and brush as much as possible under the carpet. Covid has exacerbated this but I would put money on it not being blamed for the issues in other countries. It is too easy to pin it on Covid- here it has simply exacerbated a long trend. Parental support is in decline as shown by over 100,000 secondary school students who are persistently absent. I am very much on the left but the chaos in many schools is, in part, a result of a society where people cannot abide authority. A 2014 OFSTED report said that up to a day of learning per week is lost in some schools due to poor behaviour. It will be much worse now. Teachers are not supported most of the time which is another reason why so many leave. I hope you are prospering in what you do now.
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  1954. The increase in energy costs in France is 4% I heard earlier today due, I presume, to government subsidy. It is only 13 miles away from the coast of this blighted country but might as well be on another planet such is the disconnect between this so called government and reality/ conscience. If you have no social conscience there is nothing that will persuade you that the first duty of government is to protect its people, not to shield the rich who have the broadest shoulders from paying their dues in the form of higher corporate and individual taxation. Tax is barely even mentioned in the discourse these days because it has been neutralised so successfully by the Conservative for forty years. It has become an article of faith that society should genuflect before the rich when the obscene wealth that disfigures society ( what is left of it). Private affluence, public squalor. Land taxes, windfall taxes, closing legal tax loopholes for large companies who make millions and pay little tax to the Exchequer and a higher marginal rate of income tax for the rich should all be on everyone's lips who cares about the grotesque levels of inequality in Britain. I applaud business success if it is ethical and does not exploit the workers ( most labour is exploitation to a greater or lesser extent) and there will also be those who are rich in society. But you have to go back 150 years to a time when extremes of income inequality were the norm. The peak year for disposable income was 1976 in the decade the right repeatedly demonise and only a couple of years after the effects of the oil shock. Trickle down economics has left the majority with scraps from the table and is an utter failure. The right wing economic vandals have won up to now but have no answers to the mess they have created, only a continuation of their ruinous neglect of the people they purport to serve.
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  1991.  @scepticalsaint  How do you explain the eight million adults who are illiterate? It is not a topic teachers or the educational establishment talk about- it is brushed under the carpet but blights the life chances of those let down by the system. Professional autonomy is possible without teaching being a vocation- it used to exist before OFSTED and league tables. It is a job that can resemble a vocation for noble reasons but it is not the priesthood. It is a job at the end of the day, one that is woefully underpaid. An experienced teacher has lost about £70,000 since 2010. OFSTED should be abolished as it is not fit for purpose- it has done a lot of damage since its inception in 1992. OFSTED reports tell you little about the reality of a school. Inequality in outcomes is entrenched by house prices being driven up by perceptions of which schools are better than others. There has to be accountability to drive the standards agenda but it should be on the basis of the old HMI model of a supportive and developmental critique for schools to learn from. Reducing income inequality in society is the only way to drive up standards across the board. Exceptions in deprived areas with good results do not disprove this. Income inequality has widened to make Britain the most unequal country in Europe except Bulgaria due to neoliberalism since 1979. Without reversing this ( spoiler alter- it is not going to happen), the comprehensive ideal of a good school for all parents to send their children to is never going to be realised. The unions are weak and have failed to make the case for wages effectively for many years- no surprise that it is being mooted that the NEU would settle for 6.5% as is widely expected to be recommended by the pay review body, which is a real term pay cut. This would render the strike action barely worth it. It is not clear if this acceptance would be on the basis of it being half or fully funded by the government. Regardless, it is an entirely predictable sell-out. There should be one union but even this would not be enough to overcome the lack of solidarity in teaching. Staff rarely support each other, unlike in other areas.By the way, the quality of new teachers is variable- heads have stated recently that they are having to employ candidates to address shortages who ordinarily they would not. I have seen excellent trainee teachers, some of whom were as close to highly accomplished teachers as it is possible to be in such a short space of time, but the overall calibre has declined in the last 15 years or so.
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  2006. Make no mistake about it the current iteration of Labour is going to destroy the party once and for all. Labour has always been an accommodation between the interests of capital and labour, from the first Labour government in 1924 ( election December 1923) to more recent years. Kinnock moved the party to far to the right in the 1980s in an effort to win two elections and counteract Thatcherism, but this paved the way for Blair, after the tragic death of John Smith in 1994 ( Kinnock resigned in 1992 after losing his second election). Blair hollowed out the Labour Party, accepting the Thatcherite settlement. There is a disconnect between the party activists and the MPs ( PLP), with the activists generally to the left of the parliamentary party. Starmer has purged the left and this will, in time, mean the end of his project. Key figures from the Blair era are back on the scene pulling strings in an attempt to re-run the push for victory in 1997. The problems of today are incomparable to the nineties, far more complex and intractable in many cases. Streeting is an ambitious right winger who is from the right of the party. It is by no means certain that Labour will win the next election but even if it does it will implement the same failed neoliberal policies that have destroyed Britain since 1979.Left wing candidates are not being selected for the next election; there will be no room for debating policy under a Starmer premiership. Anyone interested in his career trajectory so far might want to read The Starmer Project, by Oliver Eagleton. The refrain that Labour is not a party of protest repeated by the right is nonsensical and designed to discredit the left. Every politician on the left has always wanted Labour in power to effect change; they are not in politics to pass the time of day. The subtext, of course, is that Labour under the grip of the right will do nothing to ameliorate the excesses of capitalism. It means the end of Labour and is a dangerous crossroads for Britain; watch the forces of populist reaction step into the vacuum created by a party that has abandoned working people to their fate under neoliberalism.
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  2025.  @stevebbuk  The Sheffield rally is a red herring. It had nothing to do with the defeat- it was praised at the time and not cited as an issue until after the defeat. Labour did allow itself to be distracted by talk of electoral reform. Alwyn Turner wrote an interesting short book about the 1992 election, which is probably still available. I read it a few years ago. Sam Delaney wrote a book about the role of advertising agencies in elections ( forgotten its name), which makes the point that Labour advertising executives knew the Tories had won earlier in 1992 when the 'Labour's tax bombshell' adverts were used to claim taxes would go up under Labour. In truth, evidence after the election showed that most families would have been better off under John Smith's shadow budget but the damage was done. Much as John Smith was a decent and respected figure despite coming from the right of the party, and his death in 1994 was tragic, I would contend that the shadow budget and the way the Tories were able to frame it was the primary reason for Labour's defeat. Frankly, I blame the voters too as they have repeatedly passed up the chance to reject neoliberalism in every election since 1979. Instead working people endlessly vote against their own interests. The 1992 election is very interesting ( at least to me) as it was an inflection point and missed opportunity. Britain would have been a different country if Labour had won. The same argument can be made if John Smith had lived to fight the 1997 election- in all likelihood, Britain would have become much more like continental European democratic socialist or social democratic nations. There would have been no Blairism, further lurch to the right, Iraq, or Brexit. John Smith was prepared to work with the left too, arguably because it was already contained, but he believed in consensus. I am afraid the left is finished in Britain as an electoral force unless a Corbyn like figure emerges in future, but this is doubtful.
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  2032.  @davecross4493  Labour in 2024 is as far as it is possible to be from its founding mission even though that is still very relevant to the twenty first century. The principles of representing labour (the majority are working class regardless of how they perceive themselves). It is nearly thirty years since various voices in the PLP, Labour Party and wider labour movement expressed concerns about the extent to which Labour had moved to the right under Blair. He accepted the Thatcherite settlement, and Starmer is heir to Blair at a time when the country needs the opposite of the timid, managerialism from Labour in 2024. You have not said anything about how Labour is going to deliver growth. No-one else knows this either, because it has no plan. The abandonment of the £28 Billion pound green strategy is nothing to do with prudence- it is a dereliction of duty at a time when the economy is in dire straits. A former senior figure at Goldman Sachs and ex Tory peer has said recently that there needs to be borrowing to invest in the public and private sectors to re-boot the economy for growth. Labour has ruled this out, making a virtue of iron fiscal discipline. Time and again this approach has failed and it will again. Ultimately, it is clear that large numbers of people in Britain are content to remain poor, in low paid, precarious jobs, with few prospects, a lack of ability to buy a house should they choose, lack of workers rights due to neutered unions ( Labour will not be reversing the anti trade union laws from the Thatcher era), poor quality public services due to lack of investment, and the rest. Numerous other countries are way ahead of Britain in providing more opportunities for their citizens and have been for decades. The penny is always slow to drop in Britain with a quiescent and largely politically illiterate population that has the type of government it deserves. That is the tragedy.
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  2134.  @tomgraham3206  Labour should be making the case that capitalism is not working for the majority and pledging to fix it. By today's standards Roosevelt, who was a capitalist, would seem like a communist, and so would numerous Tory leaders who were broadly speaking adherents of One Nation Toryism. Labour should be making bold but realistic commitments to fix housing and the NHS. Nonsense about reforming the NHS is an abdication of responsibility when it knows that money is needed not another top down reform. Money is the elephant in the room and talk of reform allows the right to pretend anecdote is the plural of data by singling out examples to 'prove' waste, such as the employment of diversity officers ( not even contentious in my view if it helps tackle discrimination in the workplace) and their usual complaints about waste, which they mostly cannot quantify. Money poured in two years after 1997 ( it was a mistake to stick to Tory spending plans for the first two years- former Chancellor Ken Clarke said so and that he would not have adhered to them if he was Labour), and that is what fixed waiting lists. Starmer is the worst leader for Labour and the opposite of what Britain needs. The calibre of many Labour MPs is deeply worrying too, as it is self evident that the intellectual and political heft of the past is sorely absent, notwithstanding the fact that they have not had a chance in government. The signs are not encouraging, to put it mildly. Covid, Ukraine and the stagnation of wages since 2008, and the climate emergency, four huge events that might suggest that people would be receptive to a message of change and renewal if Labour had a leadership willing and/ or capable of articulating it. All point to the role of an enlarged state to use the levers it has to effect change that delivers tangible results that many voters would buy into. Labour's commitment to the status quo of neoliberalism is the very reason why it cannot be the conduit for the change needed. It is the system in place since 1979 that needs to be junked for there to be hope for Britain's future.
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  2237.  @Gph0367  It is not simple at all. There are a number of countervailing factors that make it very difficult to build union power. Anti trade union legislation makes it difficult to strike, the increase in the threshold underlining the point. Sectoral bargaining has gone, weakening workers' power. Mass industries were the backbone of the unions forty plus years ago but have virtually disappeared due to deindustrialisation. Many workers are transient, making it difficult for the unions to put down roots in workplaces/ some areas of the economy. Worker apathy is a major issue, with lack of interest in unions. Many workplaces do not have a union representative or attendance at meetings is poor. Workers are selfish and scared to stand up to management, and cannot depend on their colleagues for support. Keeping your head down and looking the other way is a national pastime in Britain. Thatcherism succeeded in changing the fabric of society so successfully that she described 'new' Labour as her greatest triumph. The Labour Party is not on the side of the workers and will not reverse anti trade union legislation, which Blair should have but was never going to. The point you make has been said countless times in the last twenty years but it is not going to happen. Some of the unions are not as effective as they should be and in some there is insufficient appetite for the sort of robust strike action that will deliver results. Employers and government know this and can relax safe in the knowledge that most workers will take yearly pay cuts lying down. Exceptions like the BMA, PCS, Unite and the RMT are outliers. While I disagree with Mick Lynch on Brexit, he at least has a critique of the rail industry and wider society that his members and the wider public can identify with. Ditto the doctors' leaders are intelligent and fearless in standing up for their members. But the overall picture is bleak.
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  2455. Trickle down economics in action. In the alternative universe the Tories live in, this has still not been debunked and is alive and well. However, working people will continue to vote ( or not bother) against their own interests to prop up the Tories, despite all the evidence that they are destroying lives and have done for at least one hundred years through their policies. From the poverty of the 1920s and 1930s to the destructive force of Thatcherism to the projected 10 million in fuel poverty by October 2022 and the consequent deaths from the cold, they have been on the wrong side of history continually, yet are in government almost permanently. The 1992 election ( thirty years ago on April 9th), John Smith's tragically cut short leadership of Labour and Corbyn were three chances to change direction and put people before profits and maintain a strong welfare state and economy built on stable investment and jobs. Most voters who switched to Labour in 1997 identified with Tory policies ( focus group evidence), underlining the lack of support for real change which Blair had no intention of delivering anyway; Conservative hegemony is assured under first past the post. That said, if everyone suffering voted the Conservatives out and stopped allowing themselves to be conned time and again, it would send a message that government has to work for all the people. Another world is possible and in other countries most of the issues tearing the social fabric apart in the UK are not happening to the same extent, if at all. Britain' is rotten to the core. I blame the government but also the voters who do not care about society, are apathetic/ fatalistic or whose self esteem is so low they accept poverty as the default. People have the power but not if they do not use it.
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  2546.  @puclopuclik4108  No-one works without pay and everyone should be paid properly. Withdrawing labour is a last resort and done reluctantly. Large numbers of teachers do not strike mainly ecause they are afraid of management. The threshold for strike action is high due to the most stringent anti trade union legislation in Europe. Poor pay is one of the drivers of the recruitment and retention crisis. Nearly 90,000 teachers of working age have left education in the last two years. The next set of figures in a few months will be similar. Bad attitudes by parents over many issues are one of the reasons alongside pay. Teachers who strike are concerned about their pay like anyone who has ever gone on strike in history. Losing pay is the price of striking because the employer ( the Independent Pay Review Body in education, though no one really believes it is truly independent of government) will not pay a fair wage over time. Most of those who go on strike are also very concerned about the state of education; the strikes were not just about pay. Many schools are having to employ people they would rather not due to the decrease in calibre because of the shortage of teachers in most subjects. If the country wants a high quality education service it has to pay teachers properly. I understand that many families struggle financially and think it is a disgrace that everyone cannot afford holidays and other luxuries that make life better and less of a grind. The joy should not be confined to the rich. The average family in France and Germany is about £8,000 better off than in Britain. That is because the UK economy is run for the rich which is not going to change as income inequality widens further. The cost of living crisis is misnamed; it is caused by the greed of business and the rich. More wants more. It is wrong but Britain is a society where everything is a rip off because the majority are being exploited by the minority who pull the strings. I understand and empathise with the financial predicament facing families and think fines will not work ( unenforceable potentially, unfair by penalising poor families who cannot pay and no deterrent to those who will just pay the fine and not care about the amount as they can afford it) but there are too many parents undermining schools right left and centre, which goes way beyond the holiday issue. There is no answer to the problem as it would have been resolved otherwise. Pay everyone better and not just the rich and people can afford holidays notwithstanding the fact they should not be ripped off anyway. Government could lean on holiday companies if it wanted to but wild west capitalism dictates that the market must maximise profits at the expense of fairness.
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  2688.  @Jay_Johnson  There is a regional imbalance, correct. London and the SE has pulled away from the rest of the UK for a long time. Income inequality has not been addressed by successive governments and education standards in the UK are very poor, no matter how much vested interests like to pretend otherwise (teachers and the unions, including the head teacher unions). Labour did invest in education, but it did not significantly raise standards. The idea of the Northen Powerhouse was a slogan, little else. There were various pots of money for investment but a lack of co-ordination to properly drive it. More like the northern soufle. There is zero prospect of education improving in the UK due to poor quality teaching, shortages across subjects, weak calibre of entrants who have not been educated to a high standard (vicious circle), poor behaviour that little to nothing is done about and a major problem with disengagement by students. Many Science teachers do not even have a 2:2 degree or above. Many teachers at all levels do not possess the gravitas to maintain control. They are also often not supported by management but if they are ineffective, it makes no difference. An OFSTED report in 2014 found that in some schools up to a day a week of learning is lost due to so-called low-level disruption (downgraded by the system to brush it under the carpet years ago). Behaviour has worsened significantly since then. Education is broken and cannot be fixed because almost no-one admits the problem exists. By the time the problem reaches the top of the agenda as it will need to, it will be too late.
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  2692.  @ukbloke28  The Attlee government of 1945-51 reversed the interwar consensus of balanced budgets, austerity and the small state. It set the template for the post war Keynesian consensus that saw capitalism regulated in order to reduce inequality. The left has made a huge error in repudiating Keynes as Callaghan did and Carter as US President. Thatcherism's sole purpose was to transfer wealth to the rich by reversing the post war consensus. It worked beyond anything its advocates could have thought possible in the decades when they were pushing for lower taxes for the rich, the shrunken state, public spending cuts, breaking the power of the unions to deliver wage increases and privatisation of natural monopolies. Reversal of Thatcherism would take time as it has held sway for forty six years but it could be done with the political will. Labour under Starmer has no meaningful solutions to Britain's problems and without a vision or bold agenda it can only preside over managed decline. The left has been purged even though its ideas offer the road map out of the crisis. The red Tories are more interested in factional war against the left than co-opting or absorbing its ideas into government policy in a once in a generation opportunity to effect significant change. It could even adopt the ideas of the left and present them as its own but instead is intent on continuing the acceptance of the Thatcherite consensus of the Blair era. After all Thatcher described 'new' Labour has her greatest achievement because it meant the end of socalism. Neoliberalism has failed because it does not work for the majority but then it was never intended to. Reduction of income inequality by redistributing wealth through progressive taxation of income, assets and land, together with capital investment in partnership with the private sector funded by deficit financing is the key to boosting a sclerotic economy. Instead Labour is committed to balanced budgets at all costs just like it was in the interwar years when so much damage was caused that could only be reversed by adopting Keynesian stimulus. The effects of the war made such a settlement necessary and possible. Similarly, the impact of nearly half a century of Thatcherism where the majority have seen living standards fall and the scarring consequences of ever widening inequality demand bold solutions. This is not about visions of a socialist society as per the debate on the left in the past- a regulated capitalism would suffice as the antidote to Thatcherism.
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  2695. The Attlee government of 1945-51 reversed the interwar consensus of balanced budgets, austerity and the small state. It set the template for the post war Keynesian consensus that saw capitalism regulated in order to reduce inequality. The left has made a huge error in repudiating Keynes as Callaghan did and Carter as US President. Thatcherism's sole purpose was to transfer wealth to the rich by reversing the post war consensus. It worked beyond anything its advocates could have thought possible in the decades when they were pushing for lower taxes for the rich, the shrunken state, public spending cuts, breaking the power of the unions to deliver wage increases and privatisation of natural monopolies. Reversal of Thatcherism would take time as it has held sway for forty six years but it could be done with the political will. Labour under Starmer has no meaningful solutions to Britain's problems and without a vision or bold agenda it can only preside over managed decline. The left has been purged even though its ideas offer the road map out of the crisis. The red Tories are more interested in factional war against the left than co-opting or absorbing its ideas into government policy in a once in a generation opportunity to effect significant change. It could even adopt the ideas of the left and present them as its own but instead is intent on continuing the acceptance of the Thatcherite consensus of the Blair era. After all Thatcher described 'new' Labour has her greatest achievement because it meant the end of socalism. Neoliberalism has failed because it does not work for the majority but then it was never intended to. Reduction of income inequality by redistributing wealth through progressive taxation of income, assets and land, together with capital investment in partnership with the private sector funded by deficit financing is the key to boosting a sclerotic economy. Instead Labour is committed to balanced budgets at all costs just like it was in the interwar years when so much damage was caused that could only be reversed by adopting Keynesian stimulus. The effects of the war made such a settlement necessary and possible. Similarly, the impact of nearly half a century of Thatcherism where the majority have seen living standards fall and the scarring consequences of ever widening inequality demands bold solutions. This is not about visions of a socialist society as per the debate on the left in the past- a regulated capitalism would suffice as the antidote to Thatcherism.
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  2706. The state of the country is a product of forty years of neoliberalism and capitalist realism ( the late Mark Fisher) which posits that there is no alternative to the current iteration of turbo charged, wild west capitalism. Corbyn offered an alternative which many rejected although it could not have been worse and in all likelihood a lot better. To be clear Corbyn offered mild social democracy, to the right of the 1945 Labour manifesto yet the Overton window has been jammed wide open to the extent that it is easy for the right to demonise anything designed to recalibrate the political system and those who claim to be the on the left ( so called centrists) can claim that anything that promises to help tackle the multiple inequities of life in Britain is a mortal threat to the stability of the system. It was ever thus, going back to the first Labour Government of 1924. No-one can complain about the mess the country is in if they support first past the post, blame Corbyn for Labour's defeat in 2017 and 2019 ( sabotage by elements of the right in Labour contributed to defeat) or think there was anything remotely far left in the manifestos- there was not. Disagreement about policy proposals is fine but to suggest Labour was too left wing is a misreading of the political landscape of the past seventy years and underlines how far to the right Britain has moved since the election of Margaret Thatcher. This government is a disaster and has done serious damage to the economy, society, cohesion and faith in politics that may be impossible to undo-perhaps the rubicon has been crossed. I am on the left but Brown, Miliband, Corbyn and dare I say it even Blair, at least in domestic policy, offered a more humane alternative in a number of respects.
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  2877.  @djstuc  One of the world's best education systems. Not remotely. Teaching to the test means a narrow curriculum that is the opposite of a broad education in the widest sense of the word. Most schools are exam factories and students and staff are under totally unreasonable pressure to achieve results. Expectations are too high for many students based on unrealistic targets that set them up to fail. Low standards of literacy and numeracy are a real issue- many people in their twenties and thirties are incapable of communicating in an articulate fashion. There is a noticeable generational difference. This will only worsen with the current generation in school who are spending too much time glued to screens, which is damaging their ability to communicate with each other and adults, whether their own family or staff in school. Behaviour is poor in many schools- an OFSTED report from 2014 said that in some so called low level disruption means a day of learning per week is lost. Low level disruption is a misnomer as most disruption usually stops a lesson even if only for a brief time but this still impacts on the flow of the learning. It is much worse nearly ten years later. Poor behaviour is one of the factors driving the exodus from teaching. Bullying of teachers by management is a major issue in schools but goes unchallenged because staff are scared witless in many schools and the unions often take the line of least resistance instead of doing what they are meant to by supporting staff who can easily be mistreated with no redress. UK education is in free fall yet there is no joined up thinking linking the issues. It is too late but unless the culture in schools changes recruitment and retention will continue to suffer while no-one grasps the nettle to tackle the issues systematically.
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