Comments by "David H" (@DavidHalko) on "Are Car Companies Backing AWAY From EVs?" video.

@hrothgeirrH - “Oil producers already limit supply to keep prices inflated” In a country like the US, who was a net energy exporter during the previous election cycle, people vote for idiots who limit energy exploration permits & pipeline permits, to keep prices inflated.
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“Legacy auto stopped innovating decades ago” I don’t think this is the case. I just spoke to a man who turned in his Tesla to buy a Toyota Corolla Hybrid. It is cheaper for him to fill up a tank of gas than it was to charge his Tesla… he gets north of 66 mpg… which is far above the 53 mpg city. He is a city Uber driver, so every mile is accounted for.
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@Ask-a-Rocket-Scientist - “100 mpg car” Sorry you did not patent the idea and go sell it. You could have been the predecessor to Elon Musk. Honestly, the regulatory rules are a perverse incentive to sell more expensive cars with worse gas mileage. That is why the Ford Ranger and other small pickups from Toyota and GM all disappeared from the market. We can’t blame the industry for what government coercion did to them. This is honestly the time for such an engine to hit the market, it would make less emissions than electric cars do. (An electric car in West Virginia causes more CO2 emissions than a hybrid does, because hybrid engines are so efficient in comparison to WV’s electrical grid supply.)
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@extragoode - “WV EV…” Actually, not dubious at all that EV’s in WV produce more CO2 than Hybrid’s…. If we are to also believe the same report that EV’s in California produce less CO2 than Hybrids in California. We are not talking about Hummers, here.
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@Tschacki_Quacki - “don’t get the point of your comment” When someone posted about his 100mpg carburetor and newer cars getting north of 50 mpg… the efficiency of liquid fuel vs BEV starts blurring the lines for what is better environmentally, as well as economically.
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@Tschacki_Quacki - “should tell you something” Yes, the amount of energy liquid fuel holds is far above & beyond what a battery holds, but addition efficiencies can be gained by recycling energy typically lost to heat via regenerative breaking.
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@extragoode - “less polluting the electrical grid is” This is why I called out WV, where the electrical grid is more polluting with EV’s than Hybrid Cars than EV. “ICE and Hybrids continue to pollute” Individual cars improve emissions technology FAR MORE QUICKLY than the grid generation stations improve. The mining required to produce large EV batteries is incredibly dirty & energy consuming. Reuters did an analysis showing production of a mid-sized EV generates ~8.1 million grams of CO2 before it reaches the first customer, compared to a similar gasoline vehicle with ~5.5 million grams. BEV via Coal hardly makes a difference in comparison to ICE via gas. Hybrids beat BEV where grid power is dirty. (Full disclosure: I think Plug-in Hybrids are amazing, almost bought one.) World wide, where most power is dirty, BEV will be worse for the world than Hybrids. Worldwide, we should be pushing for better efficiency.
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@extragoode - “everywhere in the world that isn’t using coal…” The world is building more coal plants. In 2023, it was well known that global coal consumption climbed to a new all-time high. Coal will continue to grow. Sure, a relatively small number of nations are rich enough to adopt clean energy, outsourcing the dirty energy production & dirty air jobs to the third world. The reality it, any improvement in mobility efficiency will help the world, and abandoning improvements in ICE will hurt the world more than a few rich nations moving to EV’s with a small numbers of rich regions in that small number rich nations moving to a less polluting form of energy production. “Midwest… 80% electricity… wind” According to Wikipedia, reading about the Midwest, states like “Iowa, South Dakota, North Dakota, Oklahoma, and Kansas each had more than 20 percent of their electric power generation come from wind.” That was not north of 80% created from wind. As of 2023, Iowa is producing 64% wind, which is amazing… I don’t think we have a grip yet, on the cost (in energy & co2) of maintenance of wind turbines, as blades fall apart, but we will see over time. “Cherry picking” is thinking that the rich buying expensive cars, living in a rich area where energy prices are high due to newer energy components [being largely created where energy is dirty] is somehow going to make a difference as the vast majority of the world will burn coal & manufacturer with energy from coal plants. We know where the coal plants are being constructed: China, India, Africa, South America. Anything we do is a drop in the bucket, as soon as The West stops ICE improvements, all these other nations & continents will see only declines in their air quality, and what we have done will be nothing but virtue signaling.
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@paul1979uk2000 - “just try a car from the 80’s or 90’s” They largely don’t exist. Some do. Emissions are far better on modern cars. “to stop EV cars coming to market” Honestly, components in cars from the 1980’s were largely driven by the engine, while components today are becoming driven by electric motors. This shows us that the existing car companies have been preparing for electrification, making incremental improvements, one component at a time. Without these improvements, today’s EV’s would likely not have been remotely possible. As long as we see better efficiency in ICE systems, everyone benefits… the rich with their EV’s and the poor ok continents around the world with their ICE vehicles.
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@beachcrow - yep… Drilling for oil is equivalent to strip mines looking for battery elements & large evaporation pools evaporating fresh water from lithium deposits. Running oil through a pipeline is pretty cheap & pretty safe, compared to shipping lithium to refining locations. Trucking takes elements to the last mile in both cases. Refining oil in cracking towers is similar to refining pure lithium metal. But honestly, this is not really a true comparison. An EV battery is merely a super expensive ICE engine plastic tank, though. The electricity that goes in the tank is more like expensive gasoline/diesel. A gasoline tank last the 200k mile life of the average ICE car, while the battery will need to be changed (I had 3 friends need to swap batteries on their hybrids recently.) TCO on the same kind of vehicle at the same number of miles is needed to truly understand. The only people who can do that comparison are legacy auto manufacturers.
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@hrothgeirrH - “export means that the product was being sold at a higher price in a foreign market rather than…” Nope. When the domestic market is saturated with a commodity, people just don’t start buying more oil to drive more miles. Storage tanks fill up, production shuts down, if there is not another buyer for it. In the US case, the switch during the last administration to the new administration saw tightening of regulations to the point where the US was making Russia the #2 foreign supplier of the US, and was funding the first invasion of Ukraine & propped up Russia to start their second invasion. The US offered Zelenskyy a ride out of the Ukraine, like the former leader of Afghanistan, but Zelenskyy shamed the US into performing minimal support (the US is retiring Worthogs, for close infantry support, Ukraine begged for the drawdown Worthogs, but Biden decided to send nothing to help Ukraine’s air offensive need against the Putin’s invading Russians.) The US could have propped up Europe with energy, but the beggar-in-chief went to Russia’s allies, hat in hand, and offended the House of Saud enough to not receive help, and created a world wide energy crisis by merely being a pain with regulations. “Exploration… didn’t benefit consumers” Sure didn’t, when Biden was filling Russia’s war chest with US currency! ROTFL! Every dollar not spent on exploration was lost US jobs. Every dollar lost in the Canadian pipeline was lost US & Canadian jobs. Inflation from increased energy costs destroyed consumer confidence, destroyed US citizens buying power, and turned back the clock on wage gains by the Middle Class and Minorities. “Canceled permits wouldn’t have benefitted US supply…” Every well needs a pipeline to be permitted, otherwise it has to be transported by truck or rail. Every truck & rail used to move oil means less train cars & trucks to move other goods (or grains, food, cars, etc.) and creates inflation on all the goods needed in America. That spare trucking & rail capacity could also be used to bring on immediate energy supplies in a pinch (like the Russian invasion of Ukraine, but Biden chose to just screw Americans & buy more Russian oil, to fund the invasion of Ukraine.) The Biden administration was just so corrupt, profiteered from Russian blood money & indirectly taxing the poor through inept energy policy. Biden even tried to sell off US oil assets to China during the time he was pressuring their profitability through regulatory pressure. What a scumbag.
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@beachcrow - “mining… happens only once” Nope. Batteries do not last the lifetimes of cars today, they are just like a radiator fluid change. “They get recycled” Only about 5% of the world’s lithium ion batteries are recycled today. “Hybrid battery packs don’t have the thermal management needed for long life” Hybrid battery packs absolutely have decent thermal management! The US DOE has been evaluating Toyota Prius Thermal Management in their packs since at least 2002, “we found that the U.S. Prius battery pack thermal management system incorporates interesting features and performs well under tested conditions.” Honestly, the disposal rates of lithium batteries leeching into the water systems may be causing increasing autism rates among children, worldwide. This is a global environment disaster already in the making.
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