Comments by "David H" (@DavidHalko) on "Bosnia and Herzegovina: 1 Country, 3 Presidents? - VisualPolitik EN" video.
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Hi @lenny5774 -
I am glad you are “anointed by God” - maybe you can tell us what prophet anointed you & how your life has been different since you have been anointed/separated onto God’s work?
“do wrong, God will forgive you”
This is where compassion is: when one admits to God the wrongs and repents [turns away from their wrong behavior], one can be forgiven. This is not corrupt, it is personal, between an individual & God.
“The Crusades”
People have made pilgrimage to religious sites for a thousand years, interfering with those pilgrims creates risks with the governments they originate from. Ultimately, when Jerusalem was conquered and pilgrims were abused, instead of being protected, negotiation with the conqueror failed because the conquer refused to honor the Muslim tax on unbelievers [Jizya] for safe passage, and the Crusades began with governments from Europe going to liberate Jerusalem & guarantee the safety of their citizens. It was successful, with Pilgrims having free access to Jerusalem to this very day.
“No such thing as evolution”
The Bible is silent on evolution, although Darwin was educated in a Christian seminary and modeled Evolution on Genesis 1
“Religion… second most polarizing”
It does not need to be, if people merely speak respectfully & without judging others. Those who act judgmental create a problem with dialog.
“Where in The Bible are the Commandments for running a country?”
There was only one set of commandments for running a specific country in The Middle East, listed in Leviticus for the first people to return to their ancestral homeland [but they refused to go], repeated again in Deuteronomy [the second giving of The Law] to the next generation who would return to their ancestral homeland. Those laws applied to a group of people in a particular land for a particular time.
Christianity does not have a legal framework for government, unlike religions like Islam. No chopping off hands for stealing, burning down your house for not showing up for prayers at the designated prayer area, etc.
Christianity has a framework for personal interaction with others, where principles for personal interactions can be extruded to benefit larger societies, like: love one another, love your neighbor, your neighbor is a person who may be of a different religion & ethnicity, etc.
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Hi @lenny5774 -
“Your sarcasm towards my quote ‘Appointed by God’ “
No sarcasm, it was a legitimate question for a claim you made.
“Leviticus is a system of barbaric…”
You need to be more inclusive and be less judgmental towards that group of people.
“Muslims and Christian’s called each other heathens since… Jesus Christ”
Islam came about over a half millennium later, so your assertion is clearly incorrect.
“They won’t collaborate running any country”
Happens in the US, all day long, since liberals around Detroit imported people from the Middle East to diversify their workforce, since liberals felt there were too many people of color working the assembly lines.
“Neither religion will allow it”
Well, assesses that incorrect assertion.
“Quran and the Bible are both filled with contradictions on how to treat each other”
The Quran was written down over a half millennium after The Bible was written, so there is no reference to Muslims or Islam in The Bible.
Your assertion is clearly faulty.
“Both religious have a longer history of brutality than benevolence”
Loving your Enemy, Hospitals 🏥, Schools 🏫, The basis for the Scientific Method, Multi-branches government with division of power, and ultimately Western Civilization are rooted in Christianity ✝️.
In the 20th century, ~100 million civilians died at the hands of Atheistic Communists in 100 years - nothing of that brutality could ever be compared.
“Seminaries… Darwin’s time”
Darwin, a person of privilege, went to university to become a doctor, like family members before him, but but dropped out and went to seminary. Darwin was a theologian.
When you read Genesis 1, you will notice that the ordering of creatures in Darwin’s evolutionary tree looks very similar to the ordering of creature listed in the text.
“Timeline of the Bible to Jesus…”
Darwin did not write of Jesus, he was becoming his own prophet, for his own profit.
“Crusades were the design of colonialism”
Colonialism was not an activity by the European ethnicities at this time, rather Europeans from The Iberian Peninsula, the Balkans, and Caucuses were being enslaved by Muslims during that time.
The colonialism was being done by the Arabs & Persians, and Moors… committing genocide across the Middle East, North Africa, and Into Central Asia.
“Christians felt they had a right to be there, anyone else be damn”
You missed the fact that there was no issues with Christians making pilgrimages there, mostly for a millennium. They did not care who were in charge. After the crusades, Christians did not care who was in command as well.
All Christians cared about was safety of their person in travel. Personal safety, and not being slaved is not too much to ask.
“Not covet thy neighbor’s ass”
Perhaps read around the whole section, and it becomes clearer:
“You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.” - Exodus 20:17 NKJV
It seems pretty applicable today, with all the Adultery and Divorce we have today, not to mention transportation theft like car jacking & scooter hijacking’s most recently.
Just because you and I think we know things does not mean we can’t have a civil conversation. I think we did ok 👌
Best wishes to you!
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“humanism… religion… ethnocentrism”
At the heart of Ethnocentrism is family… extended family… grandparents… marriages… blood…
There is shared responsibility where people are willing to self-sacrifice to share with their own “flesh and blood” with extended family of Ethnocentrism.
Faith traditions which exalt care for & voluntary inclusions others of other ethnicity & religion (ie Jesus’s teaching on The Good Samaritan, Jesus’s Great Commission, historical account of Pentecost, etc.) had been historically tied to bringing Europe together, ending huge issues with Viking raids across Europe, East Asia, North Africa, and Western Middle East.
Humanism, where people are expected to care for all others, for the sake of their genetic makeup as humans, is just another take on Ethnocentrism, expanding the same old blood lines a little wider, brushing over other concerns, discounting the supernatural experiences many have. Greed is a competing factor, which struggles against humanism. We’ll see how it eventually works out.
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@tarik6990 - “There is no such thing as a ‘racial group’ when it comes to the Ustase [sic]”
If you would have said there is no such thing as a racial group, I would have agreed with you, but with the Ustaša, Croats of different faith groups (Muslim & Catholic) were historically bundled together by alliance & by blood 🩸. The Serbs & Gypsies were not. We will talk about how this “Croat” ethnic group came into existence.
I am well aware that the National Socialists of Germany considered Slavs as inferior. The Muslim Croats of the Balkans were different, selectively bred by Ottomans for almost 700 years, from the Balkan Croat peasantry. Serbs were running the state since they were the majority & fought for the Allies in WW1. The Ustaša provided Hitler with former unselects & selected [Muslim] “Croats” from the Balkans, needed to secure the Balkans through an ethnic Croat insurgency. The Croats were formerly ruled by / as the Ottomans, and formerly allied with the losing Germany 🇩🇪 of WW1.
https://youtu.be/7VffNtUxScs
“Read about the Bosniaks (Muslims) who helped shelter and save Jews during World War II… also read about the Sarajevo Haggadah”
There are good people everywhere, who were doing the right thing, in difficult times.
People who do the right thing during difficult times are certainly to be celebrated, but we fall into repeated patterns when we ignore the butchers of the past.
There were significant quantities of Croat Partisans & Serbian rebels at the time, fighting against Germany.
“Situation in Bosnia TODAY”
Actually, it makes a very clear understanding of how WW1 & WW2 & Today’s ethnic conflicts evolved.
We know the Ottomans slaved the Slavs of the Balkans, to be Janissaries. A percentage of Balkan children were taken (only the highest quality children), converted to Islam ☪️, fought in Ottoman armies against infidels, and survivors returned to the Balkans as administrators of the Muslim regime. When they returned home to the Balkans, the other looked like them (same ethnicity), but they were of the economic class of the slavers. The administrative positions open to the Muslims offered wealth, in contrast to the peasantry who provided a percentage of their children (only the finest were selected) as slave payments to the Ottoman occupiers of the Balkans.
This group of wealthy [Muslim] surviving slaves and [largely non-Muslim] victims of occupation who breed a percentage of their children to be selected [superior] slaves were of common ethnicity. This group, of former WW1 German Allies, now becoming WW2 Allies, would eventually form the core of the “Croat” Ustaša. Those who did not join the Ustaša were persecuted.
They fought with Germany during WW1,
fought again with Germany during WW2, and
fought against the Serbs in the 1990’s.
This, in no way, gives the Serbs a pass for the atrocities they committed, but it is clear that the distrust between ethnicities were only bottled up under Tito, and never healed.
Interestingly enough, National Socialists of Germany did not invent the concentration camp, neither did the Ustaša, but they learned it from the [Muslim] Young Turks of failing Ottoman Empire during the Armenian Genocide of WW1… in the quests for Turks to make an ethnically pure state of Turkey. They inspired Hitler. Hitler said the end of the 1939 Obersalzberg Speech, "Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?"
While we had the genocides of WW1, WW2, the “Croats” of former Ottoman Balkans, and we still have ethnic tensions which led to the breakup of Yugoslavia after WW2, along similar lines to religio-ethnic lines of WW1 & WW2.
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