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Comments by "bighand69" (@bighands69) on "Ireland: Why The Hell Aren't They In NATO? - TLDR News" video.
Your advice is nonsense. There is no such thing as being neutral. The tyrants of the world do not respect such declarations.
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Ireland has no military to stop the likes of Russia so you need to stop with the fantasy.
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@samhain9077 You are living in a fantasy world of your own making. The Vikings were small settlements in Ireland and they were unable to really control Ireland as it was too far from their cultural base to travel. The Romans were never in Ireland as it was too far away for them to travel and supply. The Normans conquered Ireland and were never defeats so that makes no sense at all. Anyway none of that is relevant when 10,000 Russian troops with a large air cover smashes Ireland to the ground.
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@samhain9077 My historical Illiteracy? It is you that claimed Ireland kicked out the Romans. Are you going to stand by that?
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Pure nonsense.
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Britain and US would never allow it to take place because of Irelands strategic importance to the UK and even to Europe. There is no way that they would allow Ireland to be used as an Atlantic carrier to attack Britain and the European continent. In saying all of that Ireland should not be expecting others to do its fighting.
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You are just clueless on NATO.
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So why are you part of the EU then?
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And that public in is neutrality fantasy could be invaded. The world is in the middle of building towards WW3. Russia is not going to stop in Ukraine.
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@seankavanagh7625 So here is the question for you. If Russia was to offer to fight Britain for Ireland would you let them into your country freely and would you collaborate with them?
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@seankavanagh7625 WOuld you collaborate with Russia yes or no.
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Hitler invaded several neutral countries. It only matters when other countries recognise that neutrality.
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None of that make any sense at all.
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America does not buy gas from anybody.
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It is the european welfare state mentality that holds Ireland back.
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So do you think Britain and the US would intervene if 10000 Russian troops invaded along with nuclear launch systems? Neutrality is a fantasy when the RAF and Royal Navy protects Ireland but would that work against Russia that is fast acting and aggressive? If Russia launched nuclear warheads on Ukraine would the US respond?
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@iamthanos1423 Russia right now does not have 10,000 to spare but in an all out world war with Russia and China from the east waging war against the west it most certainly would have 10,000 troops to attempt that invasion. Russia has a population of 140 million and China 1.3 billion and they most certainly will be targeting places like Ireland to use as a point to control the atlantic and block naval assets from the mediterranean. Russia if it enters into a war culture it will turn its large and vast natural resources to war. Their equipment may be of a poor standard but it will be of a volume that will cause problems. The Nazi's had no chance of winning WW2 but they sure did try.
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Ben Ireland only came over to the allies side when Hitler started bombing Ireland.
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Ben Ireland stayed out of the war that actually gave an advantage to the Nazis as it meant allied ships and forces could not be stationed there and radio communication systems could not function in Ireland. That all changed the moment the Nazis bombed Áras an Uachtaráin. I am not saying Ireland sided with the Nazis but hey most certainly did not side with the allies that were actually protecting their realm. Ireland then started to relax their views on certain issues and turned a blind eye on certain activities. Interning both Ally and Nazi meant nothing.
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Ben Nope to what can you be specific?
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@mikekelly5869 Neutrality is nonsense.
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You would be surprised at how many people in Ireland like Britain.
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Palestine is nothing like what happened in ireland. People are just ignorant of this. The Palestinians are Arabs and are not native to what people call Palestine. The irony of this is that the Palestinians are more like Unionists in Northern Ireland in that they were transplanted into Israeli lands. The Irish people only have an opinion on the topic because the media has filled their heads with nonsense.
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And those same Brits protect Irish air space and naval battle space.
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Nonsense. Irelands only defence is the RAF and Royal Navy.
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@bobbyross2476 That was in an era when there was no ability for war to be be projected beyond Mainland Europe. Hitler was not able to invade the UK so it was never going to be realistic to invade Ireland even though The Nazis bombed Ireland as they were entertaining the idea of the invasion. Nazi Germany invaded several neutral countries during WW2.
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Commies do not like countries to have strong borders or to be able to defend them self. In the commie fantasy mind it is easy to cause a rebellion in a weak country with no military defence force.
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@aliwakanda7327 My military? I was talking about how commies do not like to see a country like Ireland build it self a defence force.
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You could tell us which innocent country you are talking about exactly?
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What is disgusting is that you would put Irish defence above your own political ideology. Every man, women and child in Ireland is at risk when Ireland is not in NATO.
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@tedcrilly46 Russia in all its wars performs like the have just done. They will keep throwing men at Ukraine until it breaks or Russia collapses. Do you want to toss that dice and gamble with the very future of Irish state, culture and people? Russia has gone into expansion and will not stop unless it hits a wall or collapses and for them it is all or nothing. What you are seeing in Ukraine right now is how the Chechin war went down.
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@tedcrilly46 They are only incapable of doing that now. When Russia goes to an all out war culture and is in partnership with China it will be able to spreading out further. It will be all or nothing for Russia as it moves on over the next 18 months. Either it collapses or it will bring a major war to central Europe. Russia has a population of about 140 million and China has a population of about 1.3 billion. They will not win WW3 but they will cause a lot of destruction trying to achieve it. Hitler wrote about it pre WW2 in that it was worth complete failure to attempt and even complete world destruction. Hitler never stood a chance in WW2 but it did not stop them trying.
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@tedcrilly46 Up to 85% of the Russian public back Putin and the public are fully behind the war. There is a reason for that and it is not imaginary. Russian military is not the US military and is incapable of conducting precision warfare hence why the initial invading force in 2022 failed miserably. The only option open to Russia is complete war and that means the whole culture will move to that of a war economy. That means all those resources such as Oil, Gas, Iron and so on will be used to build nothing but war equipment. The Russian means of war is crude by western standards but it can be scaled for Russia. Russian war doctrine was never sophisticated and always involved scale and throwing lots of bodies at it. What you do understand about this hence why you think I am making up an imaginary story is the fact that Russia is all in and will be going for broke. China at some point will realize the same thing.
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That will not save Ireland in the case of a global war and let me guess you expect the UK and America to protect Ireland.
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You are correct Ireland does not want to be part of the Nazis who are socialists and long dead since the Americans wiped them out.
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Ireland is a wealthy country and it would not be difficult for it to build a military forces and a large territorial army for home defence. The Whole investment would cost about $50 billion and provide a large air force so as to not need to build a large naval force. None of this is complex.
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@Colin_Power The Irish government just spent that type of money during covid. They spent €25 billion up front. The 50 billion I am talking about for defence would not be up front but be over several years. Ireland has a GDP of about €500 billion and 2.5% defense expenditure would be about €12 billion per year. Ireland currently spends 4% on healthcare and about 2.5% on education. There are no excuses for Ireland and its current state of defence.
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@Colin_Power NATO is the only way that Ireland could guarantee the ability to defend it self in the event of major global conflict. If Ireland spent 50 billion on its own defence it on top of that would have US missile defences and the ability to screen its naval frontage with NATO. Otherwise it is Ireland relying on the generosity of the UK for naval defences and in a major war that simply may not be viable. It would only take two destroyers and about 5000 troops to conquer Ireland.
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@Colin_Power In a major war there is not guarantee that the US or UK will be able to assist Ireland with todays set up. The only way that it could be guaranteed would be if Ireland has its own defense infrastructure that is layered with US and NATO systems. The Irish fisher men got the information via the US and UK systems that are available. Ireland cannot expect the US and UK to spend money on their defences so as to defend Ireland that is some of the most lazy reasoning there is. I am not suggesting that you are making that point but it is the general view point.
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Tyrants do not care about neutrality. It is a fantasy at best. Hitler invaded Belgium, the Netherlands, and Luxembourg who were all neutral.
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Belgium, the Netherlands, and Luxembourg were all neutral countries but that did not stop Hitler from invading. The USSR invaded several neutral countries and murdered millions of people. Neutrality is a fantasy and also a luxury for a nation that relies upon British RAF and British Navy to defend its Island.
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Neutrality is a fantasy. If you do not want Ireland to be under hundreds of years of more occupation then Ireland will need to get serious and get out of that fantasy.
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@Watchtone The main reason why Ireland would matter to both China and Russia is that as a landmass it would act as a carrier on the edge of Europe to keep the Americans from providing supplies and to also attack the UK on the other side of Ireland. As a proud Irish man do you feel comfortable knowing that Ireland is under the protectorate of the UK from a defensive point of view. The only thing currently keeping Ireland protected is the fact of its proximity to the UK. We are inching close to the point of WW3 the longer the Ukraine war continues. There will come a point when Russia moves its whole culture to that of war and when it does that it will be going for broke. Hitler before WW2 talked about how it was worth destroying the world to try and achieve their aims even if it meant total failure. Putin has probably already done the mathematics and realizes that Russia is going to collapse in on its self based on its current trajectory and will probably role the dice on this one. China is also facing that exact same problem and will do the same thing. China to control and project power into the pacific needs to try and capture Taiwan because that is currently a block on their ambitions. I know you do not understand what I am talking about because no body has every pointed this out to you before.
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Turkey does need the west but it is also a very important strategic region between Russia and the middle east.
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But the Irish people sure did take American money when they were bankrupt. Those polls are not worth the paper they are written on to be honest.
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So you support terrorist countries and their dictators?
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That is one of the dumbest comments I have ever read in my whole life.
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That is fantasy and has nothing to do with NATO. Either Ireland takes its defence serious or no body else will.
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In WW2 that view was called collaboration and those that participated were called collaborators. Historically those that go to that way of life do not fair well.
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That is nonsense.
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What has that got to do with NATO?
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Neutrality does not exist. It is a fantasy in peoples heads. Hitler invaded Belgium, the Netherlands, and Luxembourg who were all neutral. The USSR invaded several neutral countries killing millions. You can live in a fantasy world but it will be at the risk of the survival of the Irish race of people.
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And what would you do if Ireland was invaded?
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Let me guess you love communism?
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Hitler invaded several neutral countries. The mongols raped and pillaged kingdoms that did not even know there was such a thing as Mongols. The USSR murdered millions of Europeans after WW2.
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@shane long So you agree neutrality does not exist.
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Hitler did not care for any of those defences you are putting up he invaded several neutral countries. It is easy to claim that Ireland is neutral when it has the RAF and Royal Navy protecting it. How did you think Ireland found out about the Russian exercises of its coast?
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So which communist group do you belong to?
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Britain would not block Irish membership. The only way it would get blocked would be if Russia puts pressure on Turkey but if that were to happen it would be a sign to the Irish that Russia intends to take Ireland so as to use it as a launch base to attack the UK and Europe.
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How does that help Ireland when talking about Russia and China.
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There is no such thing as Neutral.
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That is a lot of nonsense there.
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Then it will be a target for invasion.
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Nonsense.
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@mikekelly5869 Tyrants do not care about such declarations they do as they please. Hitler invaded several neutral countries. Standing out there claiming to be neutral does nothing.
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