Comments by "bighand69" (@bighands69) on "Ranger Regiment: What it means to be part of the elite infantry unit" video.

  1.  @deanridgeway287  Parachute Regiment are elite because they do a super intense selection/training course. And their technical abilities are similar to US Army Rangers in that they can be dropped into a zone and operate independently from standard infantry groups.
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  2.  @rsa_elite_units4012  Training for the unit has not been declared at this point. Those that are already in the units are from existing elite forces such as Intelligence, Signals and so on. They probably are also staffed by officers from UK Special Forces. They are not yet in an operational state and are in their formation phase.
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  3. The closest thing the UK has to rangers are Paratroopers. They are both elite and capable of expeditionary elite forces. The nearest thing the UK has to US Army Special forces is Royal Marine Commandos and the new Army Special Operations Brigade (Rangers).
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  4. When it comes to battle field operations Royal Marine Commandos are at the level of US Army Special Forces, Navy SEALs and Air Force Operators. The units that make up the New Special Operations Brigade (Rangers) are existing elite units that have specialized training such as Engineers, Singal and intelligence units. They most certainly would be at the level of US Army Special Forces.
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  5.  @jimcy1319  No you are mistake about that. They have used the budget and structure of the old Battalions but they are staffed by existing elite units such as signals, intelligence, engineering and so on.
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  6. The new Army Special Operations Brigades you are referring to are made up of existing elite units such as Engineers, Signals, Intelligence and so on. They are being aligned under a new operations group. They are already elite.
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  7. Nope that is not the case. So people need to stop making stuff up.
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  8. You have no idea what you are talking about.
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  9. They are going to have training that is different but elite like Paras.
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  10.  @donxz2555  Britain is an Island and traditionally never had a large standing army. Britain has been a Naval super power and is going back to those roots. That means Britain will be building two carrier groups and a series of destroyer groups and a smaller more elite force. Britain only starting having large standing armies after WW1 and post WW2. Before WW2 the total size of the British military was about 250,000 and that was mostly manned by axillary forces. The new force structure is going to have a large home defence force and a smaller more elite expedition force.
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  11.  @herrickmaster77  Watch now as Paras start to complain about this force and the lime light that they will be getting. Paras will also watch as the Royal Navy creates special operations that will be manned by Royal Marine Commandos. Maybe Paras will be brought into Army Special Operations with their own Para Brigade unless Paras can make a case to be classified as their own special operations group.
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  12.  @herrickmaster77  SFSG are not a stand alone special operations group they are a support system for Special Forces. The only way Paras will get out of their current mop the floor treatment would be if Army Special Operations adopts them into their structure and they really should be seeking that role. They may then get a larger budget and actually perform to their full potential in that structure. Royal Marine Commandos are probably going to get that within the Navy. They are already getting the label Special Operations capable.
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  13.  @herrickmaster77  They have the ability that is not even in question and their operations also prove that ability. The tier system in the US is not so much about the individual groups ability and more about funding and priority. So a group for example being higher on the tier than Rangers does not mean they are better or more capable. The nearest thing that Britain has to Rangers is the Paras. They both are light infantry, air assault and airborne. They can be dropped deep behind combat lines from the air and then act as an independent group. Both their training in terms of intensity is of a similar level but there some technical differences between the groups. UK Paras are not the same as other countries paratrooper services.
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  14. They are Army Special Operations Brigade nothing is being downplayed. They are not called special forces which is an entirely different thing in the UK. UK special forces are not the same as US special forces.
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  15.  @mikewingert-savagelyerudite  The army has taken the budgets of existing battalions and have used that to form new Special Operations Brigade. The brigades so far are being staffed by elite army units such as signals, intelligence and elite artillery operators ( us calls Tactical Air Control Party Specialist). As they are being very tight lipped we can assume that the officers in the new Brigades at first will be staffed by special forces officers from SBS, SRR and SAS. There are probably reservists such as 21 SAS that are part of the make up as well. They have not just taken standard units and just said hey we are making you elite. This is the first Brigade level new elite Units that the UK has created in long time so you can bet they are are going all in on it.
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  16.  Documentary Detective III  I will try and explain this to you and will do my best bit no guarantee I will do a good job. Special forces in America is a term that gets used for Army Special forces it does not get applied to Rangers, SEALs or MARSOC. The US uses a structure called special operations which takes in multiple different elite units but it does not apply to every elite unit. Force Recon are not special operations but clearly they are on a par with the other groups. In the UK military special forces is different because it is an actual role that SRR, SBS and SAS fulfil. The UK does not have special operations and SFSG are not special operations nor are they special forces and are an actual support system for the Special Forces. They perform very specific tasks for Special Forces. They are nothing like US Army Rangers or SEAL's that are stand alone units within special operations. People will routinely state that Royal Marine Commandos are not an elite unit and are just standard infantry. In the Netherlands, France and Australia their Commandos are part of their special operations set up the UK has no such set up as of yet.
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  17.  Documentary Detective III  UK SFSG are nothing more than a support system for UK SF. They are not a stand alone special operations group. They have divisions made up of Marines, Para and Signals. Let me repeat they are not a stand alone group. Until the UK creates a complete forces level special operations then keyboard military experts will not understand. Royal Marine Commandos are at the same level as Australian Commandos, French and Dutch. Are you going to suggest those other countries Commandos are not at US special operations levels.
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  18. It does when staffed by members from existing elite army units so people need to stop with the nonsense.
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  19.  @jamesmurdoch9805  But they are not staffed by existing standard infantry. They are completely new.
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  20. They are very elite.
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  21. The SAS never did group integration with foreign forces. They may have sent advisors in very specialized cases. The foreign force integration was done by elite units within the army such as combat engineers, elite artillery and signals. The SRR would have also been used in that capacity. The Marines also sent teams to do that.
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  22. The army has elite units as well so stop with the stupid nonsense.
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  23.  @bigdaveo397  When you say Special Forces do you men like Navy SEALs.
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  24. @Big Stu That does not mean they are better. Special Forces has a different role and they are not the US primary elite assault force.
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  25. @Big Stu UK Army Special operations will be at the same level as US special operations. That is the end of it.
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  26.  @enderkukul4142  I am not saying they are exactly the same in capabilities as you will find that no two special operations forces are are exactly the same. Rangers are not the same as British Commandos but both are at the same level. It is like saying NBA is at the same level as NFL or NHL. Just because LeBron cannot skate like a NHL player does not mean he is not at their level. Royal Marine Commandos are considered special operations deployable. The basic training for Royal Marine Commandos is 32 weeks BUD/S is 24 week but none of that is relevant. Are you going to suggest that French Commandos Marine are not at the level of Navy SEALs?
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  27. They are made up of existing elite units such as intelligence that have already proven themself as elite.
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  28. They did not with a stroke of a pen just turn an existing standard unit into special operations.
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  29.  @bigdaveo397  Most of you do not understand what is taking place. They are forming Army Special Operations Brigade. With each Brigade being called Ranger Battalions. They are not a standard force and will have a selection process but the initial group will probably be staffed by existing elite army units and probably be staffed by existing special forces officers.
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  30. Rangers are part of Army Special Operations. Until the Navy sets up Special Operations they cannot be considered equal.
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  31. Now back to reality for your self. This new Ranger group is part of Army Special Operations. They took the budget of an existing set of Battalions. They are going to be manned by existing elite army units such as signals, elite artillery and intelligence units. They will probably have officers from Special Forces such as SAS, SBS and SRR. They will probably also attract 21 and 23 SAS members. They will more than likely get operators from the likes of 63 SAS and 18 UKSF. They will probably run a modified all arms commando type selection process.
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