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Comments by "bighand69" (@bighands69) on "Al Franken accuser Leeann Tweeden shares her story" video.
Smear job can you explain the picture of Franken grabbing her breasts when she was asleep on an aircraft. If it was just an allegation itself then it would be a innocent until proven guilty. But when there is an actual picture of the act their is not getting around this.
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There is also a picture of Franken abusing her on an aircraft when she was sleeping. My question is if he did it once did he do it again and again. There are her allegations and then there is the photo which speaks for itself.
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He grabbed her and kissed her against her wishes she told him never to do it again. And then she seen the photos of him abusing her when she was asleep. How could any of you defend this.
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+toshsani Those claims about Trump are just claims. That photo is real and he apologised for it. Your trying to form moral relativism is not a good thing nor does it justify Al Franklin the groping comedian.
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It does not matter that she accepted his apology and thinks he is sincere. He abused her and it is in a photograph. If he stays on the democratic party will always have this hanging over their heads. They will not have any moral high ground with Trump at all. Have you noticed how the Russian collusion story is starting to fade with the media because it turns out the democrats had relationships with the Russians as well.
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A pictures speaks a thousand words. Also by your logic Roy Moore's allegers are also how would you put it "She just doesn't fit the profile of a victim of sexual assault" Franken is finished the democratic party have to release him or they them self will be finished.
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There is also a picture of Fraken grabbing her breasts when she was sleeping. This is more than just a rehearsal kiss. If Franken stays in office the democrats will be hypocrites if he leaves the democrats will also lose the moral high ground. Another person has alleged that Franken was stalking her. So we will need to wait and see the out come of all of this. He may be innocent but the pictures speaks a thousand words.
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It is funny now how you democrats will say abuse is a joke. When Trump was joking on the access hollywood bus most of you were saying he was an abuser of women but the moment a democrat is actually photographed as a predator you say it is a joke. Perverts all the time photograph them self abusing women children and the elderly. It is the reason why there people prosecuted for being in abuse videos and photos. He may have actually by the way committed a federal offence in doing what he has done. We will need to wait and see.
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+salmonline There is a photo so no amount of left wing counter claims will change this.
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Paying her is irrelevant. He is on photo abusing her while she was asleep.
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You call him a good man. And you then try to claim the picture does not show he asleep while he is grabbing her breasts. Come on what sort of evidence do you want. My question to you is do you think Roy Moore is a good man and he is being smeared? (based on your Franken logic).
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You are in shock because your champion for women's rights is out their abusing women. The democrats (party of the KKK) are really disgusting.
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Roy Moore is being pressured to step down and he has not had a final court judgement either. So should he stay or Go?
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How does that help her when she is on an aircraft asleep and he is hanging over the top of her abusing her.
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" if you "pretend" to grope a woman during a rehearsal" She is asleep on an aircraft strapped in and is wearing protective equipment. How is that a rehearsal?
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Her being a bikini model does not allow Franken to abuse her on a aircraft (photo evidence). Franken is finished and no amount of your victim shaming is going to change that. My question is did he do this with other women and does he hang around with other democrats who could be involved. These types of people hang in circles. Weinstein did not do that on his own either.
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Victims when in the public can behave in ways that are not normal. Even today that photo probably makes her feel very strange.
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+Kosh Naranek It maybe a joke to you and you may not think it is abuse. Harvey Weinstein who groped and kissed women against their will also probably thought it was not abuse and was some big thrill joke. For that woman to have a man first of all forcibly kiss her because he claims he wrote a script and then to pose in a sexually explicit act over her when she was asleep would be disgusting to her. Imagine her seeing the photo a few weeks after she got home and then immediately thought about the forced kiss. It probably made her skin crawl. I can tell you know I am a man who would brush comments of from other men as a joke no matter how disgusting they were but if I found a photograph of a man posing over me when I was asleep and was at my bum or groin I would feel disgusted. What else has he done that is not in the photo. Did he put his hand anywhere else?
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There is not moral comparisons. You cannot say Charles Manson is worse than Roy Moore so lets give Franken a free pass. It does not work like that. I cannot say if what Franken did was a crime because he was on a military aircraft. I am just not sure how it works. Has he committed a federal offence?
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Cops? It was on an aircraft not on US soil. And maybe just maybe she was so ashamed by it for years and did not want it out but later on cracked.
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Sexual advance as in flirting and asking her out is not the same as grabbing her breasts on an aircraft when she is asleep.
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It is irrelevant to what you want to buy you can do that in a shop. He has allegations made against him and a photo of the incident and he came out and apologies saying it was a joke. I am sure rapist will say it was a joke as well but that does not mean it is right or justified. One of two things is going to happen here either Franken is destroyed or the democratic party takes the political sandstorm from this and is destroyed. This is not going away anytime soon.
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+jfsfrnd Her not waking up is not a defence. If she was really tired as clearly she is when sleeping on a military aircraft she may not actually wake up. Plus a man who does that to a women he is working with is very sick indeed. Could you imagine yourself doing that when one of your colleagues is asleep and her getting the photo a few weeks later and not knowing it happened. Imagine one of your male colleagues did it to you. I would freak out to be honest and I suspect you would as well. That clearly is a sexual image that he is trying to display. We all know that. Stop pretending.
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The picture shows her asleep while Franken is abusing her. There is not getting away from the picture. If she just made the allegations herself you would be trying to destroy her but since their is a photo you cannot.
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