Comments by "Cat Nap" (@catnap387) on "How Kremlin falsifies history of Kyivan Rus to undermine Ukraine (Honest History. Episode 1)" video.

@yurykuleshov No Kyiv was not erased from History because it continues to exist. It was badly destroyed. Leningrad was badly destroyed but it still exists!
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@MrStolboy And neither did the name Russia exist!! The previous name for Russia was Moscovia (Muscovy) as the rest of Europe called it. Peter the Great renamed his kingdom from Moscovia to Russia. The old Rus that had Kyiv as its centre later changed its name to Ukraina.
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If you feel that NOBODY ever claimed that Kievan Rus was exclusively Russian check out the comments of Boyar and Yuri Kuleshov to get an idea of Russian understanding of history and try to work out where they got their understanding of their history.
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@MrStolboy I am not making up history. There are many who talk about Ukrainian fascists but do not talk about Russian fascism that is very big in Russia and denies other people their right to their history and existence. Unfortunately Russian imperialism expanded and as a result created HUGE problems for many countries including Ukraine. It still causes death and is determined to control Ukraine. Russians still live with fascism as which is continued by Russia's ruling elite and its supporters
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I have to but in here. Ukrainians/Ruthenians/Rusyny. These are the names given to this group of people. The same group whose ancestors lived in the lands of Ukraiina/ Rus/ Cossack Hetmanate and continue to live there today. These people have always been there even when they were incorporated into different empires. The successors of these people are the people who live in Ukraine now, people who have their own language, traditions and culture. Present day Ukrainians did not just appear out of nowhere. They have always been there on those lands and are now part of their own sovereign state which is known as Ukraiina. Nobody dropped these people down there from the sky!!. The people of Moscovia lived on the lands of Moscovia and the same people continue to live there even when Moscovia (Muscovy in English), changed its name to Russia under Peter the Great. They are no longer known as Muscovites but Russians! All very logical!!
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@OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR You can think what you like but you cannot tell the Ukrainian people that they are not who they are. The people who live there ARE the successors of Rus if they and their ancestors live in those parts. Anyway you do not explain why ambassadors throughout Europe were known to be representatives of Moscovia (Muscovy). That is how they were referred to in documents. Regarding the Wild Fields. Most places had vast uninhabited areas because the population was much smaller and the population expansion was a gradual process so it is common for many countries to have sparsely populated areas at one time. What bothers me is why there is so much interference from others in Ukrainian affairs?
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@OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR So Ukrainians may not have been in a minority in some cities but the areas outside were inhabited and farmed by Ukrainians. There are towns and cities in countries now where the majority is made up of one group. Certainly Kyiv continued to be inhabited by Ukrainians, Poles and Jews in the 17th and 18th centuries before Russia's expansion into Ukraine, when Ukraine was absorbed into the Russian Empire. But Ukrainians lived in present day Ukrainian territories. Russians were the foreigners in Ukraine and being the conquerors of Ukrainian lands they came over to do certain jobs the way people do now when they go to other countries to work.
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@OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR Whatever its size Kyiv and the rest of Ukrainian the lands had a population which we would call Ukrainians. You are implying that Ukraine's lands were populated by everyone else other than Ukrainians. Of course there were other peoples inhabiting those lands but the bulk of the population was of the Ukrainian ethnos which has lived not only within Ukraine but also around its borders which are within the Russian borders. You are trying to downplay Ukrainian existence but you cannot erase these people no matter how you try. As for the rebuilding of Kyiv, it is always the privilege of imperialism to send its own people into its colonies to work as colonials. That is what the British did in their colonies. The British built India's railways and expanded its cities using colonials from Britain but you cannot say Mumbai or Calcutta are part of Britain. They are Indian. Ukraine was Russia's colony even though Russian propaganda tried to convince the world that the people of the lands of Ukraine were Russia's "younger brothers." The world is getting wiser regarding Russia's propaganda and is not being taken in.
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@yurykuleshov Novgorod Vladimir- Suzdal in the north were principalities which were affiliated to the Rus of which Kyiv was central, the heart. Tthe emerging principality of Moscovia conquered Novgorod and Suzdal and absorbed them in the 1400s and they became part of Ivan III's domain of Moscovia and he took the tilte kniaz of Rus. Up until then the title of kniaz of Rus was kept for the ruler in Kyiv. It is at around this time that the emergence of Moscovia (eventually Russia) and separate Belarus a Ukraine came into being. Rus was a collection of principalities with Kyiv as its heart. Kyiv = Ukraine NOT RUSSIA. They emerged separate and Ukrainians wish it to remain so. Russia says it is a democracy with free speech and free and fair elections so it should respect Ukraine's wishes and keep out of Ukraine and its internal matters!!!!!! AND the Russian state should allow Mr Navalny's supporters to demonstrate their opposition to the current government without being attacked by the police. That is my say on the matter!
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@OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR ?????????? "Kyiv never exist" ............ does not make sense! I think you'll find it at the end of a flight, road, on a map, address, a place where people are living at this moment!!!!!!
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@yurykuleshov You believe Russian propagandist history if you want to. It is very difficult to believe anything coming out of Russia. Check out their news and discussion programmes. They have perfected a propagandist narrative throughout the ages but most of the world sees through it.
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@OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR By the way Kyiv is not a neologism, Kyiv is a transliteration of the Ukrainian name for the their city. "Kiev is the transliteration for the Russian word. The Ukrainians are within their right to prefer to see the transliteration of the Ukrainian name for their capital, KYIV
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@OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR The US and UK airports are beginning to change the spelling. So is the EU. The Polish spell the name as Kijow and I don't know the what the others are doing but I am happy to see that countries are following suit. It cannot happen overnight but changes are happening I'm pleased to say. It shows that the Russian stranglehold through decades of propaganda and misinformation and lies is beginning to be pushed back. I see Navalny is having problems with his hearing in the Russian courts today!
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@yurykuleshov So you don't believe that UK, US and EU are beginning to use Kyiv in their airports. No propaganda there just fact. Isn't Navalny in Russian custody? Is that true or not?
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@yurykuleshov You haven't answered my point regarding Mr Navalny. Church Slavonic was the language used in documents in Rus times.
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@yurykuleshov The Church Slavonic language was used in official documents during the time of Rus as well as into later periods in history. But you are resorting to insults of me as a way of undermining me. You do not know me nor my brain capacity. What I can say is that Moscovia became a growing new state which expanded its borders taking Novgorod and Suzdal. Moscovia changed its name to Russia under Peter the Great who continued Moscovia/Russia expansionism into Ukraine. Nothing right wing there. But you still haven't said anything about the unfortunate fate of Mr Navalny!
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@yurykuleshov Moscovia, Herberstein, 1549 What about that map which is on the same site as the one you produced?
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@MrStolboy I read your and thought it's not worth going into a discussion here because you have virtually no knowledge about history in this area and I don't want to waste time replying in detail when you are so hostile to begin with! Oh dear!!!!
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@shevel1980 Numerous Russian documentaries and even Russia's beloved leader have talked about the Rus rulers in Kyiv being "nashi" (ours)
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