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Comments by "" (@alicemerray) on "Could Tactical Voting Put Labour Into Power? | Pod Save The UK" video.
Neal is spot on about Labour taking voters for granted. I feel VERY taken for granted at the moment, as a Remainer who is in favour of civil liberties and not allowing children to starve. I am far more tempted at the moment by the offer from the Greens. I may or may not find there's a Green candidate in my area (which is still Brexity and very Tory) but if there is that option, I'll be honest, I'm going to be tempted. If I do vote Labour, it won't be a vote for them, it'll be against the Tories and that doesn't fill me with political fervour.
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One of the maddening things about the Uxbridge result & Labour's obsession with it is that Labour has apparently NEVER won that seat. Not even in the Blair landslide. So holding the Tories to under 500 votes is actually a damn good result!
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The line about 'if we have PR, extreme RW parties will get in' is a red herring. There are extreme right wingers in Parliament now but they're calling themselves Tories. Many were UKIP before 2019. The point with PR is that there's no longer a need to have each party be a "broad church", which sounds lovely but what you actually get is what we see now with the various factions in the two main parties at each other's throats. So instead, there'd probably be a really lefty, Corbyn-style party, an equally RW Suella Braverman (or Farage) party and various others - the Greens and Lib Dems, some centrist or even single issue parties; you can imagine. Tories purged or who left due to Johnson and Brexit would probably create some sort of One Nation Conservative party. Both Labour and Conservative would probably be somewhere in the centre. Then people can vote for a platform they believe in completely (or near offer, because I imagine we would still be up against the limits of some constituencies not having every party fielding a candidate) and yes, maybe one or two extreme RW would get in but a) we'd get to see what those policies really attract in terms of votes and b) they wouldn't be able to hide behind the Conservative name any more. If you look at the Labour or Tory manifestos, (when we get them) how many people who have really no choice but to vote for one or the other under the current system are actually reading the platform offered and grimacing as they see policy after policy they *don't really want*? PR is designed to mitigate that. It lets you actually vote for people who represent your beliefs.
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