Comments by "Jack Haveman" (@JackHaveman52) on "Critical Race Theory War: James Lindsay, Allie Stuckey, Christopher Rufo | ROUNDTABLE | Rubin Report" video.

@Henry James You can go everywhere else to hear that. If there was a person there, at this round table, that was a proponent of critical race theory, it would turn into a fiasco of arguing and accusations. It wouldn't be a discussion. I would prefer to hear their ideas on how this is hurting us without someone interrupting and calling them racists over and over again.
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I sometimes can't help but feel as if this has been the Democrat agenda every since they failed to stop the Civil Rights Act. They lost the fight to keep slavery so they introduced Jim Crow. When they lost Jim Crow they took on a new tact and a clever one. One where the minorities will gladly and willfully accept apartheid back, in the US, but in a new form. It's just a nagging suspicion that won't go away.
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@Henry James It was an example. Don't be intentionally obtuse. It's NOT a good look. When someone is allowed to speak, without interruption, that person is setting out his case, unfettered so their ideas are completely exposed, to all of us, in the best way that they know how. That is also an exchange of ideas. Ideas, born in their brain, verbally expressed, so I can allow it to enter into my brain. That's an exchange of ideas, too. If I wanted to hear two people yelling over each other, and even see people stomping off in anger, I'll watch MSM where you hear nothing but anger and the only thing that enters your brain is a cacophony of noise. Not for me. I want the ideas to be expressed articulately, without interruption and rancour, just like this video was. I don't even have to agree with them but at least I know what I'm disagreeing with.
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@Henry James Actual debates....yes. I participated in them when I was in college. However, this hasn't been the case on most social forums on TV or the internet. Most devolve, rather quickly, into chaos. It's not my cup of tea. Besides, this wasn't a debate. It was a discussion between like minded people, with different perspectives. Rubin has stated often that his isn't a debate type of show. It's informative discussion. It's what he wants and there's a market for it. I like it. I don't like adversarial learning. It's counter productive and I don't learn a thing.
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@Henry James They could have an exchange of ideas but I've yet to see it. I watched the Candace Owens/Blair White "discussion" and I didn't like it all and I like both of them. I'd rather have a person come on, talk about their ideals and perceptions without interruption. It's like reading a book, even one like "Mein Kampf". I don't want to be interrupted, continuously, by outrage. I want to read it, absorb it, analyse and come out with my own take on it. If Rubin has Candace Owens on, I want to hear about her beliefs and her life. If he has Jimmy Dore on, I want to hear where he's coming from. I don't want to hear an argument or a debate because very little ever gets said.
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@Henry James I figured this would devolve into you using insulting remarks, sooner or later. You didn't disappoint. You don't have a decent rebuttal to my last comment so you just start calling people "dumb". You're quite the intellectual.
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@Henry James So...what are you doing here? Looking to increase your brain power? I don't watch Rubin just to watch Rubin. He has guests...some really good ones. Why you'd be here is a mystery. Obviously you're WAY to intelligent for such low brow discussions. You'd be way better off somewhere else discussing quantum physics or the impact of the philosophy of Jacques Derrida on American political life. You know...really smarty pants stuff.
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@Henry James I think it's funny that such an obviously intellectual giant, such as you, would stoop so low as to even watch Dave Rubin. That's DEEP sarcasm, in case you don't quite get it. I don't see anything that you've said that has any intellectual value. All you've done is come up with different ways to call someone stupid or an idiot. You've proven exactly my point. If our exchange is any indication of the "debates" that you like to see, then all we would see are insulting contests. That's great stuff for the small minded but for most of us it's just that...great stuff for the small minded and not what we want to waste our time on. Now, it's time you used your great intellectual prowess to call someone else an idiot. There is nothing more to be gained by talking with you.
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@Henry James So even if he did....so what. You disagree with him on ONE thing. How does that take away from what some of his guests are saying? As a guy that worked constructions for YEARS, I get what he's saying...somewhat. Of course you have to have standards but if you've worked in that field, you know how power hungry those inspectors can be. It's infuriating. My brother in law was so enraged he chased one of them off the property with a shovel.....and he didn't come back. California is cursed with so many regulations that no one can build and the housing is price out of sight. It's killing our ability to afford to live.
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@Henry James You have ONE thing that you find ridiculous and you throw his entire show, platform and ideas out the window. WOW. To add, I'd have to see the blurb,in which he says this, to fully understand what he's talking about, before I will comment on it. I want to know exactly what he said not an interpretation of it.
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