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@amosjsoma why don't you come with a real argument as an educated adult instead of being a potty mouth with nothing but oral diaohera and attempts to personal insults? Why don't you show us how informed you are instead of throwing projections, and straw men?
I asked you some questions... yet here you are being a juvenile brat and brainwashed idiot with nothing but brain farts....which proves to me that all you morons are helllbent on destroying humanity in a pit of narcissitic outrage based on lies from the biggest man baby of them all. You only prove that you and anyone like you are shit for brains with no civility, education or even the most basic insight in how to get your point across or communicate with others as if you are human.
I suggest you go back to school and re educate yourself. However, I suspect that you are too far gone....you can't even debate substance... So it's rich being accused by a republican bot with no brain programmed to spout bullshit of being 'brain washed'..LOL
Sadly, you have like most others there fallen for cheap propaganda and PC self aggrandizing while pissing on everybody else..
I suggest the next time you go to you church or your party cult meeting about BRAINWASHING...
As for any future?
It's being destroyed by your greed, your Capitalism, your endless wars, your fossil fuel addiction, your corruption, your fraudulent death cult of 'Christianity' and nationalism.... You are destroying someone's future every time you steal more land, or separated refugee kids from their families and hands them over to child molesters and other sexual predators right up yours and Kavanaugh's alley.....He IS rapist... and anyone who thinks he is not, should force their daughters to date someone just like him...Whatever you have to say about it will say more about you and what kind of person you are and who you support...
Best regards
A Norwegian veteran and journeyman who has gone to high school in USA and knows about your particular Americana indoctrination first hand.
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Evirthewarrior Italy, France, Holland, Britain, Norway, Greece, Spain, Caribbean, Australia, New Zealand, Switzerland, Ireland, what have you. It depends on what you are looking for. Looking for cheap entertainment? Culture? History? Sun bathing?
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Geometry Dash Kenaz
Top ten signs you are over obsessed with religion:
10 – You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by
other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
9 – You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say
that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the
Biblical claim that humans were created from dirt.
8 – You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a
Triune God.
7 – Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities"
attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how
God/Jehovah slaughtered all the male first-born babies of Egypt in
"Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in
"Joshua" – including women, children, and trees.
Not to mention the crusades..From Charlemagne to Bush 2.
6 – You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims
about gods consorting with women, but you have no problem believing that the
Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed,
came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
5 – You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in
the scientifically established age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you
find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen
sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is about a couple of generations
old.
4 – You believe that the entire population of this planet with the
exception of those who share your beliefs – though excluding those in all rival
sects – will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering, and yet you
consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
3 – While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have
failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor
“speaking in tongues" may be all the evidence you need to
"prove" your choice of religions to be the correct one.
2 – You define .01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to
answered prayers, and consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you
think that the remaining 99.99% failure was simply the will of God.
1 – You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do
about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but you still call yourself
a Christian.
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@Claytone-Records Who?` I'm sure he's fine... as far as having shamanic experience with plant medicine for healing purposes is as far as a "drug use" the same way as shooting smack, getting pissed on liquid drugs (booze), or smoking crack is insane and not remotely similar. And even after research, first time use, every time use of either shrooms, ayahuashca, changa, peyote, iboga, or free base DMT will give you new insights and healing if used with caution, and with the right intentions. There is no such thing as a "
bad trip", only shitty attitudes, and ignorance. as well as fear of your own shadows...
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E. Howard Hunt Religion - the scourge of the world.
http://bandoli.no/scourge.htm
I guess you don't mind a mosques who practice strict sharia weekly outings and public stoning of gays, do you?
And you can out witches and warlocks who practice anti-christian rites for your own witch burnings...
And then you can have a bunch of Norsemen right next to you practicing aggressive Odinism, sacrificing Christians as vengeance for the forced conversion of Scandinavia and northern Europe...
How about it?
Top ten signs you are a Christian fundie:
10 – You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.9 – You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that humans were created from dirt.8 – You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.7 – Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the male first-born babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" – including women, children, and trees.6 – You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods consorting with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.5 – You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is about a couple of generations old.4 – You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs – though excluding those in all rival sects – will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering, and yet you consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."3 – While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor “speaking in tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" your choice of religions to be the correct one.2 – You define .01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers, and consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% failure was simply the will of God.1 – You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but you still call yourself a Christian.
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Ace Goku He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed, not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens (his) breast to disbelief-- on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.
— Quran 16:106
llah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."
— Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:83:17
Make ye no excuses: ye have rejected Faith after ye had accepted it. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others among you, for that they are in sin.
— Quran 9:66
Sort of goes against the internal freedom of thought and faith, doesn't it?
I mean, as soon as you start questioning the whole mythology of the revealed religion, according to many scholars, that is a greater sin than never to adhere to Islam.
Why is that?
Is Islam such a deck of cards that one single dissent threatens to tear down the whole house of Islam?
Any deity who displays wrath and need humans to force and punish for other people's change of faith is a weak god. And does not deserve to be respected nor worshiped.
That deity is less credible than a politician or a used car salesman.
This practice is not exclusive to Islam.
However, I don't think that Scientologists or Mormons have actively gone to steps to kill the people who have "gone astray". Mormons do have a history of genocide though - against "savage" Native Americans in Utah.
Scientologists are using some pretty nasty tactics however towards the people who do leave. Scientologists tries to destroy you in different ways.
"The bible and the Q'uran are the sources of all morals until they inconvenience us".
All Christians and Muslims
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J GALT It's an open forum.
And the first sign that we were dealing with an escapee from the mental asylum that is GOP was your first plump in the ice water:
When the effects
of those policies impact YOU, they cease to be popular.
Wonder what kind of policies that would be. Free school? Free healthcare until you're 18? Medicare? Social Security?
Policies that are unpopular are wars, bailing out banks, money in politics, and republicans (masquerading as "libertarians")... C
But I'm sure that the piss that is Trickle Down Economics have made you smell like roses. At least if you smell in any way you communicate with people. And you never actually answered Smith's question, but rather parsed it with four new ones directed at him. I was kind enough to put my two cents in. And that must have stirred your tone brain into a tizzy.
And as far as government functions, and the constitution, I doubt that you have reading skills or the mental capacity to understand passed the first sentence to it's preamble We the people"...
So you just proved yourself to be an utter,and complete IDIOT incapable of not only lacking of basic manners, but also a complete coherent thought about what even you wrote yourself. Your incoherent rants resembles someone junkie having a bad trip. A delusional randist with not a foot in reality.
So instead of focusing on an issue YOU set up, YOU are too busy throwing insults all around like a spoiled child on a temper tantrum.
Take a chill pill and at least try to act as if you are more than 15, and that your education is above Junior high, or stop posting idiotic comments making yourself an easy target.
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J GALT I'm sure you are not the right person to determine other people's cognitive abilities or reading skills.
It seems that you are struggling with just those issues. But you'll improve... As soon as the last pimple have left your face.
See, if you want people to take you seriously, it's not very smart to start up with an insult. It's like a midget trying to pick a fight with a giant, and then demand the giant listen to your peeps.
You asked a few questions. I was kind enough to reply. And without the juvenile insults that shows every sign of a brain damaged troll who don't even understand your own attempts of making a word salad.
1. Who was responsible for Reaganomics you ask. If not Reagan and GOP, then who else?
The democrats who lost in 1980 due to the dirty tricks dept,. of GOP?
2. If the intention was to make the rich richer, and the poor poorer, than Reaganomics have been a staggering success.
3. Apparently, the owners of the GOP are deliriously happy with the outcome. Because the ones you support with your vote, don't give a flying fuck about you. To them, you're nothing but a living ATM machine with a body they can exploit as much as possible, as cheap as possible until you die.
4. What did the people behind Reaganomics promise?
Care to answer that one in a mature matter, or will you start off with making as many enemies as possible with the typical juvenile lingua that the "libertarian" punks have started using while ignoring the questions, and then turn to the switch and bait tactic?
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Not Jill Stein's problem. Nor her voters. Blame it on Hillary and DNC who have played dirty against Bernie voters not following the sheeple to vote for more corruption.
Everything that you put on Trump, Hillary, Obama and Bush jr. already has done. And with Hillary, it will be more of it
If Journalists were doing their job...If Justice was a thing in the "land of the free", neither Hillary or Trump would have been on the ballot. Sensible people without their kind of baggage would be on the ballot. They would have been under investigation and disqualified to run for anything else but dog catcher.
With Hillary, the land theft of Native American land will continue at the behest of her donors; the oil companies and Wall Street.
She and DNC did the exact same thing against progressives as GOP has done against minorities since Florida 2000. California and Brooklyn are the most egregious examples of election fraud. Yet there are no repercussions...No legal consequences. Business as usual. Fall in line! Worship your Dear Leader! No matter how corrupt that leader is because the other one is worse!
If you voted for Hillary, you voted for corruption and Wall Street money.
And if she intensifies the war in the ME, you must take part of the blame for the civilians killed.
I hold Bush voters responsible for 9.11, Afghanistan, Iraq, and ultimately the creation if ISIS. As I will hold you responsible for the destruction of humanity on behalf of profits and corruption.
Take responsibility for your own bad choices. Don't blame others for making more informed decisions based on their principles than you.
Having to choose between Hillary & Trump as the only options is like having to choose between being anally raped by an Ebola infested corn cob, or fucked with switchblades drenched in snake venom.
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James Campbell-Laing Peaceful protests in 1916?
England created their own terrorists through 400 years of monarchic terrorism and freeloading.
I am not condoning bombings or shootings in civilian areas. (Some of those who got convicted for such bombings were wrongfully convicted)
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I lived in Belfast from 2004-07. I was engaged to a protestant woman who got shot at when she was 3 while playing in the street on the upper Shankill. She grew up during The Troubles. And one of hundreds of traumatized kids who got sent to Scotland and away from the violence. Unfortunately, Catholic kids did not get the same treatment.
One of my hashish dealers is an ex. IRA hitman with lives on his conscious. I almost got into trouble when proclaiming loud and drunk in a pub in Ravenhill (with a Finnish friend of mine) that I considered Northern Ireland a part of Ireland, and not a part of the welfare queen of Buckingham.
Every 12th July, there is "Marching Season". The Orange Order arranges marches all over the country, celebrating the mass slaughter of 1690, harasses Catholic kids on the school way, and starts massive riots in Ravenhill and Shankill. I think I know something about "peaceful protests".
Have you ever heard of UDA? UVF? UFF? All royalist terror organizations just like IRA and "RIRA". But you never hear of them in the news, do you? Yet every year they incite violent riots. The rest of the year, they're either on the dole, are dealing with guns and drugs, and spends time attacking gypsies selling street magazines in their own housing. Very little to do with religion. Just thuggery disguised as nationalism sugar coated with religious affiliation.
If for no other reason, my years in Belfast truly taught me Both Sides of the Story...
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Lachlan Allen
Wow. You have just been owned twice now, and you still think that a neuroscientist is better to analyze what goes on down there than a historian.
I have studied comparative religions as well as history. This Harris has not. Both Reza Azlan and I are more competent than someone who's only on the show for Maher's confirmation bias and complete lack of ability to see the whole picture.
It seems that this Harris fella is trying to tie religion to what for instance the Palestinians have to deal with, and like Maher, blaming the victims of a policy they both support.
Why do you keep coming back for more? Do you LIKE being publicly humiliated?
Before you answer, I suggest you open a history book. And what is happening there now has a direct tie to the big fat lies that lead to the Iraq war, and U.S. seedy alliances from Taliban and Mujahedin to Al Quaida and the "moderate Muslims" fighting against Assad....
But this is the typical apologetics mindset. Never look at the consequences of ones own actions, while blaming the other, and then tie their religion to it.
What you and Maher and Harris is doing is legitimizing ISIL today. Extremists have a tendency to legitimize each other. Maher legitimize ISIL and other Islamic groups with his Neocon garbage, thinking that it's a progressive ideology to support what the Apartheid state of Israel is doing right now. Not only does he legitimize Islamists, he's also on the same side as Zionists who wishes to see all Palestinian Semites be exterminated. He's also on the same side as the Christian dominionists who couldn't give a shit about the Jews, but want all cramped in there at the expense of the original population so they can start Doomsday.
It's the same thing accusing IRA for religious extremism for fighting against an unreasonable occupant in Ireland.
And as far as beheadings goes, that's nothing.
You know what a Bloody Eagle is?`
Something that my ancestors did on Christians and their other enemies. Lindisfarne bring back fond memories....
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eclemensen
CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, SBC, ABC, FOX "telling it like it is"?
That is funny for a gang of pussies who can't laugh at themselves.
They care more about Donnie's "mean tweets" than his robbing of USA with the help of the likes of corp. dems.
If they did real journalism, they would fawn over a fake president when he sent his first missiles against Syria, getting hard ons from the sight of those penis extensions.
If they were to do real Journalism, they'd be asking why the hell he hasn't gotten all the troops out of Iraq since he claims to have been against it to begin with.
If journalists did REAL journalism, USA wouldn't have been in Iraq. Bush jr. would be behind bars. Clinton wouldn't have been the selected candidate for DNC, and we would be talking about how a president Bernie Sanders just ended the war on drugs, and have closed Gitmo.
And for all intents and purposes, YOU together with corporate media put the orange bastard in Office.
Corporate media has become a propaganda arm for war.
If journalists were practicing Journalism, court jesters and comedians wouldn't be necessary, since they obviously are not afraid to tell you ugly truths to your face.
Now, these "journalists" only remind me how the Emperor's New Clothes has gotten a modern twist.
Doesn't Monstanto fund both parties by the way?
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Murikkkan Idiot like to throw rocks in glass houses.
Since when have your WASPs made any contribution to the societies and cultures that was already in America after 500 years?
In what way are Chhristians mass murdering brown children, and shooting up abortion clinics any better than these Muslis y9ou seem to think you know all about?
Why do youo RWers never explain RW terrorism, neocon war crimes (which lead to 3.2 million dead IRaqis since 1991), Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, secret torture prisons, drone strikes (that has a 98% civilian kill) and idiotic bathroom bills in fundieland who think that they are for freedom and equality under the law?
If you think that you Americns are an ounce less barbaric than any "Islamic culture" (as if that was a monoculture like McDonald's & Coka Cola) check your own RW nutbags in your local church, local bar, locsl gun shop or some wrestling show.
You call yourselves civlized but still send hundreds of thousands of kids to private prisons for pot while giving your war criminals a medal and plattform! Last time I visited a Muslim country, I toked up on the local Hashish - an act that would have landed me prison time in one of your "freedom loving" red states (who have this warped sense of what liberty and freedom really means.)
You still have the death penalty. You don't have universal healthcare. You think that 15 dollars minimum wage is too much, and think that billionairs are taxed to death!
If anyone makes US of "Awseome" look like Idiocracy, it must be the average Trump moron. At least you RWers sare mkaing America look both scaring and hilariously stupid at the same time.
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Top ten signs you are a religion freak:
10 – You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
9 – You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that humans were created from dirt.
8 – You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.
7 – Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the male first-born babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" – including women, children, and trees.
6 – You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods consorting with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
5 – You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is about a couple of generations old.
4 – You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs – though excluding those in all rival sects – will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering, and yet you consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
3 – While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor “speaking in tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" your choice of religions to be the correct one.
2 – You define .01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers, and consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% failure was simply the will of God.
1 – You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but you still call yourself a Christian.
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Like when he continued Bush's wars abroad?
Keeps signing the "Patriot" Act?
Tortures whistleblowers who exposed war crimes committed by republicans?
Keeps giving Republiscammers 98% of what GOP wants, but your crooked GOP wants more?
Obama had MANDATE in 2009...
He squandered it by PANDERING to republiscammers who were hellent on blocking him perpetually for 8 years.
If anyone who has reasons to be angry at Obama, are the people who VOTED for him.
You on the other hand, has nothing to bitch about. Every disgusting policy that comes your way are ALL republican plans.
GOOD plans, like the plans from real progressives are being buried or blacked out or demonized by the corporate media who has been spoon feeding you cheap infomercials, celebrity gossip, ads for drugs and political smear campaigns paid for by the sugar daddies of the officials YOU voted in.
And now, you think that your party of criminals and traitors deserve better treatment from the MAJORITY opposition who were never duped by your orange scam artist in chief. Mind you, that the majority of adults never voted for either candidate in the first place.
He's got no mandate. He wants to impose upon the world fossil fuel and Wall Street insiders...He denies climate change and wants to hire an oil CEO from a company who has known for DECADES that man made climate change is real, and they as well as we causes it.
He wants to build a wall and make liberal tax dollars pay for while he wants to take the sacred land of the Standing Rock people and give it to a private oil so they can poison Missouri River...
If DINO, neoliberal Shillary Clinton didn't rig the primary against Bernie Sanders, we would say president elect Bernie Sanders today, and you know it. It would have been a no contest, and the perfect display of who represents the money elite, and who represents the People.
If you think that progressives should just bend over and take whatever Drumpf rams down your own arse, you are so fucking deluded, you should get off the meth, moonshine or whatever that has fucked up your head meat.
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@ThomB50 Playing by the rules?
Are you kidding me?
Since when have crooked republicans ever cared about "rules"?
How about 'playing by the rules" GOP style and obstruct president Thin skinned tiny for 8 years and deny him a single judge in his entire period?
How about an army of hundreds of thousands of ANTIFA members, BLM, OWS, unions, native Americans, latinos occupying Washington DC, showing up at the Capitol Hill with a hanging Trump in burning effegy while being egged on by Bernie Sanders?
How about having an army of progressive activists running elections in more than half of the states, and 'conveniently' throw out hundreds of thousands of republican voters out of fear of "voter fraud"?, deliberately targeting white, conservative families with a bunch of hoops they have to jump through even to get to a voting station only to be met by a bunch of Black Panthers who constantly harass them and calls them all kinds of names, like 'baby killers' and terrorists?
And if you think that TYT is more divisive than Donnie, I am curious where you can find anywhere TYT has promoted the idea of punching protestors in the face, and 'rough up' some lone Trump supporter at a Bernie rally.
TYT don't promote terrorism. President tiny does.
His job isn't to call the press "the enemy of the people" because he don't like their coverage of him. The Free Press isn't here to stroke yours or Trump's ego's. They don't give a shit about your partisan feelings.
So if you can cough up that study and what methology they used to find your "truth", why not back it up?
But keep having this weird love for a compulsive liar and a narcissist like an empty headed flying monkey with no thoughts of your own if that's your thing. But don't expect the world to reward you, or pander to you for it.
It only portrays you as pathetic and weak who can't handle criticism.
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@howardmctroy3303 No such evidence for that.. Only in your partisan bubble. And your deluded ways of warping things around. And making things up. The only party who supports forcing people into concentration camps, and build walls on other people's property are your party of Nazis.
If you think it's unfair to call out Israel for it's Apartheid regime, and Bibi's deeply corrupt, and racist ideology, I wonder what planet you live on.
I am still waiting for some "alt-left" unicorn manifest in your dreams and blow up a synagogue in some red neck state somewhere.
If you consider yourself "right-wing", or something rather, the last thing you want to do is to write publicly about the so-called "Antisemitism" from "the left".
The only party where Antisemitism has really grown ugly, and not called out by corporate media is the party of "The Chosen One"...
Why do you support ethnic cleansing and genocide against the Palestinians
Why do you keep supporting child molesters whose fan base has skinned heads and think they can run over anyone who dares to disagree with your racist, and Antisemitic ideology?
Do you think that racist stinkers from Alabama should make decisions over the voters in Minnesota?
Why are fake stories about so called "leftist antisemitism" while you ignore the real Antisemitism among your own partisan Fuhrers and their alt-right "proud boys"?
There is no "alt-left".. Just another cheap name calling by deluded fucks without a single original ideas in your heads.
If you don't support and vote for the Jewish carpenter whose parents fled from a regime who wanted to kill him for his existence; now runs around talking about healing the sick, ending hunger, housing the homeless, welcoming refugees, ending wars, and start treating everyone as equal, I ponder, whom is the real Antisemite here?
What do you think?
You think that Bernie is an antisemite for not being Bibi's and Donnie's bitch boy?
Do you think that anyone who does not think it's a good idea to use WMDs against kids are Antisemites?
Is it Islamophobic to target the only two Muslim women in Congress and call for a general Muslim ban?
Is it Islamophobic to call all Muslims potential terrorists?
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Sikyu 4977 The word democracy is Greek.
The form of government and your federation was an Iroquis thing
The founding fathers didn't have a real life example to take from regarding Greece. They did get direct references to how a democracy with elections work from the Iroquois since they were the only ones around to show the founding fathers in practise how to run things. OFf course, the founding fathers warped the core values of this principle from the getgo, when they still enslaved Africans, and held women in servitude.
In the Iroquois, only women could vote.
In the white, America, only white land owners could vote.
In other words, they switched even before your democracy was established. And it wasn't really a democracy either, since slavery goes against every democratic, and human rights principle in the book.
The myth of Christianity was invented by Paul.
The dogmas of Christianity was voted on 300 years later by a bunch of illiterate fools. 67 years later, Christianity was the only legal religion in the Roman Empire - which fell less than 80 years after that.
Arabs white?
HA!
150 years ago, not even the Irish was considered "white" by the WASP government of Murica.
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When you praise a bunch of statues of a bunch of lazy bums and violent rapists who committed treason, and think that statues of white, violent freeloaders matters more than black lives....That will make you a racist sympathizer and anything but "pro-life"....
If you disagree that we are all equal and that black lives, native american lives, and muslim lives matters less than your statues, that makes you a racist.
Plai8n and simple.
If you disagree that 1+1=2, but insists 1+1=3, or that 3=1, that doesn't make you a racist. That makes you an idiot.
If you disagrere on the theory of gravity, that makes you also an idiot.
Not a racist.
But in this case, when you worship statues made of dead people and think THAT is the big issue of the day, that makes you a confused person who don't know how to prioritize. If those statues are of people who can be equated with Adolf & Stalin, that makes you an authoritarian racist. Which is what your ideology is all about:
Authoritarian, institutionalized racism.
If you shitforbrain snowflake gets triggered from being called a racist, perhaps you should stop quacking like one! Perhaps you should start changing your shitstain attitude!
You don't have an opinion of your own. In order to have that, you have to have a functioning brain. Which is something MOST RW radicals like yourself is completely void of.
Deal with it precious little RW radical snowflake!
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Don't sound very liberal if you ask me.
How is taxing a guy with ten dollars by 10% equal to taxing someone with 10 million the same rate equal? If that be the case, the rich wouldn't take the biggest slizes of the pie.
When 8 people owns more than the 50% of the poorest in the country, you think that these 8 people should pay the same tax rates as the ones whose wealth they have redistributed into their own pockets? Do you think that taxing Paris & Conrad Hilton higher from incomes they have NOT earned is waging a warfare on them on behalf of ungrateful, greedy proles who dont know what hard, honest work is?
Someone making 10k a year does not make enough money to make ends meet. That's why he won't pay federal income tax. He is being taxed otherwise though. His local taxes, and sales tax.
Yet here we have a bunch of RWers who think that the poor contributes too little and the rich way to much,
What I call warfare by the rich on the poor.
How is not taxing someone making 60 million a year plus tax free stock options with 10% the same as taxing someone who makes 20K equal?`You get gaxed 10%, you have 18K left to live off, A hedge fund heir who did NOT work for his 60 million dollar income will have 48 million left to shop at Walmart with, Whose wallet do you think feels the pain the most? the Paris Hilton or the worker in a "right to work for less" state?
Does the CEO who takes in 60 million a year feel the same impact on his wallet as a sweatshop worker at a call center does?
I think you RWers have a little warped sense of what is fair and how profits among the richy are being generated differently than wage slaves who live from paycheck to paycheck.
If you want it to be fair, then let the CEO make the same amount of money as the janitor.
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Dante Brown The problem is that extremists like to cherry pick what they want to emphasize.
When they behead civilians and commit genocide, they will find nothing in their Q'uran to justify coming from another country (like the majority of ISIL does) and slaughter tribes that has lived there for millennia just because they regard Jesus as a god, and not just a prophet.
Extremists on both sides (The Breivik gang and the "Islamists") take out whatever fits them to justify atrocities.
Like when Muhammed was at war with the rest of the tribes (including Jews who did NOT believe in him as a gods messenger and fought him and his followers) and killed their enemy, extremists make that event into something that is universal. And they ignore verses like this;:
From Abi Nadrah: Someone who heard the sermon of the Messenger of Allah in the middle of the days of at-Tashriq narrated to me that he said, "O people! Indeed, your Lord is one and your father is one. Indeed, there is no superiority of an Arab over a non-Arab, nor of a non-Arab over an Arab, nor of a white over a black, nor a black over a white, except by taqwa. Have I conveyed the message?" They replied, "You have conveyed it, Messenger of Allah!" Then he said, "What day is this?" They replied, "A sacred day." Then he said, "What month is this?" They replied, "A sacred month." Then he said, "What city is this?" They replied, "A sacred city." He said, "Allah has made your blood and your property (the narrator said, 'I don't know if he said "and your honor" or not') as sacred as this day of yours, in this month of yours, in this city of yours. Have I conveyed the message?" They replied, "You have conveyed it, Messenger of Allah!" He said, "Let whomever is present tell whomever is absent."
"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 2:256)"
"Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them). (The Noble Quran, 15:2-3)"
"Say, 'The truth is from your Lord': Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it):......(The Noble Quran, 18:29)"
You will find no where in the Bible that ALLOWS non believers to exist side by side with the believers.
As far as Taqwa goes, some people are "better" than others. Yes. Who are these better ones?
I can suggest MLK, Gandhi, Mandela, Franz of Assisi, and all voices that preaches peace, tolerance and social justice as examples of whom are "taqwa". Imams and mullahs from Tehran or Mekka who arranges witch hunts and goes after "apostates" and non-believers are examples of what the opposite of a "Taqwa"....
And again, I find myself "defending" a religion I have no relationship with whatsoever due to misinformation that has pestered the internet since 9-11.
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I Love Sitar Music "5"When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. 6"But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you."
Sounds pretty straight forward to me. If you are going to pray, to in the fucking PRIVATE!
When YOU stop stuffing your "faith" in public square, pray quiet, shut up and don't do your evangelisation and practice your religion by being fuckiing tolerant, and start giving away your wealth to the needy and not to some super PAC, by all means. So far, you're "christianity" seems as sincere as monopoly money.
You have NO human right to impose your religious symbols on public ground paid by tax payer dollars. Imposed prayer in the schools goes not only directly against what your precious Jebus spoke, but it's also a violation of the 1st Amendment.
Top of irony, is that you fundies insist on printing "In God we Trust" on your bloody money. As if money and wealth was something your saviour condoned in his sermons.
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Ace Goku Ahmadiyyas believe in the continuance of revelations across the world. They don't believe in an End time, nor the return of Jesus like the Sunnis does (how can Muhammed be the last when Sunnis claim that Jesus will be reincarnated)?
The mere ARROGANCE of the mu hammed cultists disgusts me. Don't you see your raving lunacy when you claim that only an Arabia desert dweller and illiterate as such be the last prophet, making this some sort of monopoly of how the creator of the billions of galaxies and stars on how we shall live our lives and worship this invisible man in the sky and his last prophet from ancient bible land?
The 5 Pilars says "Muhammed is his prophet", not "Allah's LAST" prophet.
And why should your omnipotent god choose to communicate with only one war lord and trader?
Like I have indicated, I see very little difference between Ahmadiyya and Sunni. However, Sunnis emphasizes that only Sunnis practice the right way, and Ahmdiyya are apostates.
The first link I gave you was written BY a Sunni, and his derogatory language reminded me of the same language used by insane Christians.
I consider them to be as different from each other as Catholicism and Protestantism.
If they use the Q'uran, the Surahs and Hadiths, I don't see why you or anyone else should denounce them a s Muslims, labeling them "apostates" as what officials from Sunni does.
But I see now how you have gone at each others throats the last 1000 years, and why Sunnis commit mass murder in the name of Sunni because they think Ahmadiyya poses a threat to the House of Cards called Sunni Islam.
Moon god: The status Allah had in the polytheistic society of Mekka. Thought you knew that.
I am taking down all the myths that both Islam, Christianity and Judaism is built on.
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Ace Goku Ah! Brilliant! You got my joke. Which is basically true.
I cannot remember the Moors destroying Iberia the same way as ISIS is destroying historical artifacts right in the middle of the Islamic world.
The notion of Buddha statues as a threat to Islam came recently when illiterate fundies came to such conclusion in 2000/01 in Afghanistan, acted upon it, and blew them up.
As a man who's explored Buddhism, I've been through my childhood Christianity. The Johnny Black version: Standing up for the downtrodden. I've been into Judaism, and read the Kabbalah, or at least chunks of it. I've done some studies of Parapsychology, and the ideas of reincarnation. The only teacher I've ever had an ounce of respect for was a high school teacher of mine, who taught us world religions, and writing. I contribute my own path to writing to him. He is a Muslim. An Ahmadiyya Muslim. Not considered by Sunnis to be legit. The Sunnis are breaking the Hadiths and Surahs of religious freedom, and personal autonomy.
I don't see any value in dead things and statues, but these were wonders of a long forgotten time when Buddhism was the main religion of Afghanistan and Islam were not even invented. In fact, those statues are a legacy over our humanity that fanatics wanted to destroy in the name of their Arabian desert god. Doesn't Taliban mean "student"?
Wonder if the curriculum included destroying other cultures because Allah..,,
This is the way with fundies. Can't take jokes, always looking for enemies, and threats, and expects respect when they show none.
I'm sure even the dead desert dweller Mohammed is rolling over in his grave over the atrocities done in his name. Never mind that taking his entire mythology straight from a Hebrew tribal god who promoted slavery and genocide, he was no worse than any other leader at that time. In fact, he was progressive in many ways. But also completely deluded in other ways.
But that's a question of faith vs. demand for proof.
See. I have no personal stake in Islam vs. Judaism vs. Christianity. I grew up in a complete religious free home. Didn't have much to do with it until I learned of baby Jesus in 1st or 2nd grade. Compulsory to learn about religious myths before science. Kind of conflicting, don't you think? Specially when you learn that the universe was created in six days, and then you go to next class and watch Carl Sagan.
But I've always liked religious myths and legends. So I'm not afraid to say what is bullshit and what has an ounce of value. Even the Q'uran have some pages and verses worth while. Even the Bible and the Torah as well. But the rest? Completely worthless as literature. And dangerous in the hands on people with power and take those fables a bit too seriously and act upon them,
But this is what is so dangerous about revealed religion. Atrocities were barbaric before. Now, all of a sudden, one could defend those atrocities based on some obscure event that took place 1400 years ago, and use that event as an eternal "Jihad" against all who dare to make funny drawings of them and their sky god. Same thing goes with Christianity. In the "Land of the Free", a kid got sentenced for "desecrating" a religious symbol. As if the religious symbol got offended by it. I think it's more the people who get offended on behalf of an inanimate object representing a bronze age myth.
It was only 33 years ago, ,Life of Brian was heavily censored in Norway, and banned several places in England. In fact, it was banned at the beginning in Norway as well. Precious religious feelings seems to trump the right to make satire of religions who's power rests entirely as a dependent on secular power to enforce their delusions on others. And now, it seems that there are people who want to wipe out the ink too.
On personal experience from USA, I consider Christian fundamentalism and corporatism a greater threat to the American democracy than Islam. Though a few thousand thugs selling their extremism on a media created by the "Evil West" is laughable. Let the locals deal with them, and bring Bush&Cheney for a war crimes tribunal in Hague.
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Islamist joke:
"There's an old saying in Islam that Mohammed considered the ink of a writer was more sacred than a thousand martyrs.
Fundies have an unorthodox way of solving this dilemma:
They read the scripture, behead the writer for blasphemy, and worship the ink."
"If you are not with me than you are my enemy."
- Anakin, Revenge of the Sith
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes."
- Obi-Wan, Revenge of the Sith
"He that is not with me is against me."
- Jesus, Matthew 12:30
Jesus was a stinkin' Sith!
I fear that Pamela Geller is a religious zealot, and over obsessed with religion.
Sign # 7:
Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the male first-born babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" – including women, children, and trees.
What kills me, is that these freaks all fight over who owns their sky daddy. It's the same dude!
The Allah that Mohammed worshipped is the same Yahweh who killed the entire humanity, because he was unhappy about his creation, and let his anger go out on his own "perfect creation" who had the audacity to follow their free will instead of kissing his arse all the time as he clearly has stated in the 6 first of the 613 commandments.
If anything, this Abrahamic god must be the most schizophrenic god in history. I mean, at least we know what Zeus, Thor, Odin, Krishna, and Vishnu stood for.
But this Q'uran bible god seem to be all over the place. And he seems to have an anger issue, blaming us for "sinning" against his specific rules. (Which a large portion are deeply offensive in the first place) if not only blatantly narcissistic, but also deeply racist.
Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the male first-born babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" – including women, children, and trees.
And have anyone studied European history in lights of religion and religious justice folks? From 392 AD through Charlemagne the Viking Ages, the Crusades, the religious wars in Europe and WW2? Isn't it a coincidence that the Viking Age suddenly stopped when the Crusades began?
That's your bible god and his followers for ya folks!
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Will Theo You think that education, clean water, healthcare and proper food is a human right even for poor kids?
Or do you think that those are privileges only for the once who can afford it, and poor kids should pull themselves up by their bootstraps and work for pennies for the rich kids?
"We've been taxed enough already"...
Who are "we? Did you crumble under the tax pressure under Bush, or did you just start whining when your party lost in 2008 about those bloody taxes?
Did Obama ever increase YOUR taxes?
And who are going to pay for all the veterans you voted to send to war under Bush if you think that paying taxes for those wars and taking care of wounded vets is such an unpatriotic thing to do?
Why are you whining about food stamps, medicare, medicaid, roads, police, firedept.,unions and the unemployed while keeping your mouth shut about corporate welfare? The kind of welfare that benefits the donors of the party you are voting for?
And what about the big government drug testing for people who gets unemployment insurance that convicted republican Rick Scott imposed in Florida while also imposing voter ID laws?
Both highly costly programs, and all to rig the system to get a permanent republican dictatorship.
What do you think about that?
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Most those "illegals" have ROOTS in a continent you only lived in as a tagalong with your gold digging parents and have mostly work for less than minimum wage.
What makes you think you are more entitled to stay in a country on sa continent these "illegals" are indigenous to?
Its lie saying that you are more American and have more rights and entitlements than the Natives the white Europeans stole from.
USA deser4ves nothing but contempt., And if you feel offended by mexicans waving the Mexicsan flag, you sir are one thin skinned MFer.
USA and all the whiteyes have been living off like kleeches on the brown people south of the border for the last 60 years.
And China doesn't have free speech. Apparently where you come from, free speech is a crime?
And you just confirmed that US of Awesome is a brainwash factory where you praise a dogma you don't give a shit about if it inconvenience youl.,
If I was Native American, I would start charging rent from all the ungrateful freeloaders coming to my ancestoral land and shit all over it or showed the worst criminals and destroyers the door, or the ocean as the case may be.
If people want to shit all over the American flag and piss on the bible, it's their right to do so. If people want to wave a Mexican flag right in front of thin skinned "patriots" who think you have a single entitlement or root in the continent, it's their right to do so.
Mexicans have lived far longer than any Asian have in the Americas. And they have propably worked harder than any Asian since the Chinese were brought over as cheap labor for the railway barons.
They definately have worked much harder than some white pencil pusher or plantation owner.
And unlike you and Europeans are indigenous to the contient. You and the rest are the new kids on the block.
So come back to me and bitch once you have worked 15 hour days on a European "owned" plantation for 3 bucks an hour, and no bathroom break, paid holiday, sickleave, health coverage and the eternal threat of being sent to one of those private prisons for "illegals".
Funny how no RWer ever speaks of the evil people who HIRES the cheap labor they blame all their problems for.
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@chadaustin1226 Tulsi don't seem bothered by the fact that Modi also belongs to a brahmin radical cult whom where behind the assasination of Ghandi either.. Or how Modi has made outcasts and non casts practically 2 class citizens...Effectivelly, he has not real popular support, and rides on wave of prejudices, marshall law, scape goating, stirring up hatred... basically fake populism..Wonder what the hell they taught him at the ashram in the first place.. Certainly not inner peace, being present, or detached from false notions of duality and separation... To me, both RW radicals, Modi, Drumpf, the MAGA klan, and the covert narcissists of the centre are merely mini emperors doing a strip show for all to see while they blow their own wind of how fabulous their new fashion statements and memes are..Other than that, I applaud her for calling out the Clinton klan, and defacing Kamela Harris. She has seen the ugly reality of what war is after heard the idealistic call from neoconservative war profiteers that the invasion of Iraq was a noble cause. Unfortunately for Bush jr, and the Clintons, she did not buy into the "war on terror" by dropping bombs on entire neighbourhood blocks in the search of a 'bad man'... ;-)
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Ōkami-san We have private clinics in Norway too. And the private clinics seem to bed doing OK. And if having to choose between paying 50 000 dollars for an appendix and get one for free just as quick, people will go for the free. I have not been to Australia, and couldn't tell you much about their health care system except for they have a public healthcare system that doesn't exclude 50 million people like in USA before "Obamacare". People do not die from lack of access to a doctor in Australia. People in USA do. Thousands of Americans die every year due to little or no access to a proper healthcare system that also covers "deadbeats" who lost their jobs to a Chinese sweatshop worker.
USA ranks 37 in the world in healthcare. Just around "commie" Cuba! And that is a country that had to endure a draconian blockade thanks to USA. When I needed a doctor in England, I didn't have to pay a dime in doctors fee. And when I needed medicine, drugs was subsidised. See, I'm a veteran. And has gone through hard times at times, even in my travels. And when living and working in England, my mandatory National Insurance covered me completely for the fraction of what insurance would cost in USA. From what I hear, Americans go to Canada to get subsidised medicine for the fraction of the cost in USA (where the industry itself dictates the prices after monopolizing the market. That's why so many drug companies are against legalization of marijuana. they donæt want you to be able to grow your own medicine, and wants you addicted to theirs.
What I find disturbing is that Americans always have money for another war, but can't afford feeding millions of poor kids whose parents lost their jobs thanks to crony capitalism and deregulation. They can afford giving Wall Street 700 billion dollars over night, but can't afford "Meals on Wheels" for the elderly.
It's beside the point. HEALTH is not a commodity to be traded with or speculated on by the "free market"...
And the biggest money hoarders are still Capitalist Americans. Just look at how your robber barons have bought your politicians to keep you in line and obedient.
P.S, Japan has a socialist healthcare system. USA is the only industrialized country that does NOT have a public healthcare system that covers more than veterans and politicians and public workers.
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Dante x Yamato Ah. Good old Leviticus The go to book when they need a crutch for their devious "value" system. Specially regarding "sodomites".
Also a book to avoid, or ignore when we look at the rest of the 613 strict rules that the Holy Skydaddy has given to his people alongside free will.. .However, they will never find anything in those rules condemning abortion. Despite the insistence that abortion is almost as grave sin as "sodomy", and far worse than greed, gluttony, arrogance, pride, praying in public, killing in the name of Jebus, steal, raping choir boys and commit genocide.
Regarding Liberals...I don't think that Liberals are sectarist like the Christian death cultist who can dig up some obscure bronze age rule to defend murder.
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Better tell it to Chump and ask him where his "Make America Great Again" caps are made....
Treason is something republicans do to win elections; From Nixon to Bush jr.
To be fair, Bush jr. only cheated. Nixon and Reagan committed treason. Republicans are traitors, and have now infiltrated the Democratic Party with DWS and Hillary leading the charge. GOP has been swarmed by insane people; gun nuts, corporate lobbyists, bible wankers, neocons, climate change deniers, creationists, flat earthers, Holocaust deniers, and unadulterated racists. Their leader is the whiner in chief - Don the Orangutan King Chump.
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Gray Cat I've been to USA several times. Even went to school there one year as an exchange student - in Kansas. So I know your Murikkkan propaganda first hand. I have personally deemed Kansas the shittiest state in the union. Just look at their economy and the ones running the state in the ground, imposing religioius nutbaggery and neoliberal policies. And I don't watch TV
Apparently it's you who live in blissfull ignorance about who so many countries are ten times better than the best BLUE state you can conjure.
I have lived and worked in five different countries the last 11 years, worked for almost a dozen companies, many American transnational companies. Paying you with peanuts. I call it my sweatshop period.
When I say you are in ignorance about other countries and other systems and prove my point that your educatioin is nothiung but Soviet style propaganda and indoctrination is your last paragraph: "Socialism sucks the life out of a country".
You are brainwashed. You neither have freedom, nor a sound economic system. Tell me what freedom you have if you are broke, and just got out of prison for smoking pot? What freedom do you have when you can't afford education, and can't get a decent paying job because that job went to China or Mexico? What freedom do you have when you have four corporate news statoins, spoting the same kind of bullshit, blocking Liberal voices one anchor at a time, replacing them with corporate pundits, being paid to tell you what they want you to hear, and not what you need to hear.?
CAPITIALISTS who take money out of the system, hiding it in secret bank accounts abroad is sucking the life out of your country. The bankers, the corporations, and the oil companies are sucking your country dry. While your arms industry helps kill off parts of your population. Bush Jr. started a war on the credit card. Not giving a shit about expences. He gave Wall Street 700 billion dollars, socialising the loses, and privatising the profit as a parting gift before being booed out of office a few months later. In a social democracy, where government takes part, government is resirculating money through investments. In infrastructure, healthcare, education, justice, etc. While capitalists are taking money out of circulation, they are killing the economy. And for once, I would presume you have come to the same conclusion as I: Trickle Down economy doesn't work! The last 30 should have proven that to you already.
So if you don't like LIBERAL policies, consider this:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-m5CBDUQxKTw/U9YCVdK6YLI/AAAAAAAABSA/2j6eldnZHQw/s1600/Liberals+gave+us.jpg
And what are the major differences between a RWer and a liberal?
http://www.conservativemyths.com/comparison-chart.gif
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/conservative
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/liberal
And if you think that a conservative brain has anything to contribute with, consider this:
http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/2/2/9/9/2/8/9/The-Conservative-brain-40062192202.jpeg
But if you prefer the insane defintion of Liberalism and Conservatism, by all means, use this for souce instead:
http://www.conservapedia.com/Liberal
Seems that Andy Schafly is a walking oxymoron.
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SamStam12 If you have money to gamble with..i.e. "invest...You're a capitalist. If you have a stock portfolio you profit from, then you're a capitalist.If you have neither, you are not a capitalist, but a promoter of a system that is rigged against the wage workers and for the people whose money do all the work for them.
And what we see in USA today is the result of capitalism where money is considered speech, and are heavily in politics,
Capitalism per definition as we know it has only existed a few hundred years when the bank system started during the Renaissance. And the banking system is entirely y built up on debt in such ways that people become more dependent on the banks than the other way around.
Today, it's not the government whom are taking peoples homes. The banks who received trillions of tax dollars to save those homes are doing that.
You can elect your government, but you cannot elect your corporate overlords. The killer is that you bitch about government, when it's your bankers, your oil industry, and the arms industry that owns them. You keep voting them in, and you keep voting for more money in politics, and capitalism running your government.
And yes. Capitalism is a religion.
Bankers are the priests. The stock market is the cathedral...The investors are the prophets. And money is god.
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Please! The Greeks had little to do with the actual creation of the American "democracy".
The Iroquois and the old pirates did.
The Iroquois practiced both elections and had a system of confederacy. Something that Ben Franklin took note of while he stayed with them.
The notion of "one man, one vote" stems also from how the pirates ran their ships... Both radical ideas in the eyes of Europeans who still lived under a monarchic system where blind allegiance to anyone in power was a given...Well...more or less. What the colonists saw was how democracy worked in practice. Both among the "savages" whose land and resources they coveted, but also in the pirate tales from a half a century earlier. What would be most lucrative for a sailor anno 1705? Working under slave like conditions under a dictatorial rule like in the English navy for crumbs, or have your own voice and fair share of the loot from raids with a vote to trash a captain who didn't work in the interest of the crew?
I think that the answer is easy for many of us.
But the Creeks...Oh well. Perhaps the democratic republic of white land grabbers in the New World has taken something from both Rome and Greece: The blatant corruption.
What you forgot was to include Ostracism into your system. A fine regulatory rule to stop one man or a faction from getting too much power. Getting rid of them for such and such years....
Another thing that was flawed in your system; Women couldn't vote, and slavery.
What George Carlin described as being stunningly full of bullshit.
I am sure that both Plato and Socrates are head balming too. Just a look at the clowns that Drumpf, Sarah Palin, Gohmert, Santorum, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, the Clintons, and Bachmann embodies together with all the sleazy money keeping them as puppets embodies. That crowd would be enough for the old Helenians to upchuck. Same goes for the Iroquois.
Plato was never in favor of a pure democracy however.
The Iroquois proved him wrong, and white Christian settlers proved him right.
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Well.. Good luck in building that successful business of yours without collectivism and collaboration. I'm sure you and your bootstrap will come far ways without any help whatsoever.
I'm sure you must think that you Drumpf voters are all candidates for the mensa club..lol
Louie Gohmert represents the republican intelligence in an excellent manner...lollllll
So does Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, Donnie Tinyhand Pussygrabber, and your average teabagger.
The colleges are stuffed with sharp republican scientists who knows all about history, biology, languages, religion, climate, sociology, and not to forget how to build a car I'm sure.
When your republican politicians takes giant donations from corporations, do you think that money is free money without strings attached?
Are you saying that when lobbyists takes your representative to lunch, your "hard working republican" is getting a FREE LUNCH at someone else's expense?
Republican voter: The gift that keeps on giving for anyone with a sense of dark humor...
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Sagan Worshipper Sometimes, the messenger often makes the difference.
There's a huge difference between Charlie Hebdo and Pamela Geller. She is a political hack and a hate monger who kicks only one way. She builds her whole ideology on hate, and self victimization.
She and her group of extremists did this only to provoke. I agree that it's stupid to attack someone with violence like the attackers of this "event", and legitimize, even for a moment the bile of Geller. What I find telling, is that she never opens her mouth about how Christians are limiting free speech in regards to offending their own sociopath of a god.
See. I have insulted Islam, or at least made jokes over it in a hostel crawling with Muslims. In Belfast. Not once was a threatened with violence.
Sometimes, it's all about the messenger.
And the receivers. If you walk up to a drunken violent sociopath, calling him a pussy, and insult his mother, you can bet you will get your ass handed to you.
When extremists like Geller do as she does, she is bound to rile up extremists whom are on the same page of extremism as she is.
They deserve each other for all I care..
So I urge you in the name of free speech to find your closest mega church and put up huge signs with the most religiously offensive epitaphs you can conjure up about the dominating religion in your own country. Tell them that Jesus was a drunken socialist queer.
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***** Because Republicans are so good with the economy (tax breaks and subsidizing the rich, while eating the poor),experts in "National Security" (that's a kicked. An entire GOP was asleep at the wheel before 9-11, and have been trying in the most disgusting way to capitalize on it politically, imposing a big brother police state)....,
Republicans say they hate "big government", but want to dictate what you can put in your own body, and if you're poor, you will be subjected to Soviet style tyranny.
On another point, the biggest handout states who take the most in govt., handouts are red states. The red states which is also the poorest with the poorest quality education, lowest in health, IQ and overall life expectancy. Move to a GOP state, and you won't have to go abroad to visit a banana 3rd. world republic.
And the value system of bible wanking Republicans are so similar to those of ISIL.
- Both oppose the teaching of evolution in schools
- Both are extremely religious
- Both like to parade around with guns.
- Both like to quote religious text (the Bible and the Koran)
- Both claim to be extremely patriotic and love to wave around flags
- Both hate Liberals
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@charlesfarmer3089 If you want to die from lack of healthcare because you are deluded.. that's your choice.
But you don't get to make that choice for others.
If you are against public healthcare, are you against the healthcare that your army gets? Or how about that tax dollar subsidised healthcare your congressman gets?
Check out Scandinavia and UK and argue where we go wrong where your private industry wants to play your death panels. Personally, I have found the UK system to be most convenient. You pay 5-10% of your wages to NIS and get covered by NHS even as migrant worker. Other taxes are lower though. So this tax is earmarked for whatever health issues one might have.
This has benefited me personally as a former employee for a range of IT companies in both Ireland, and UK. Mostly UK, since their system is better than the Irish.
What happens when you get sick in England and is covered by NHS?
First, you don't pay the doctor a single dime in fee.
If you need prescription drugs, NHS subsidises the cost of this like your government covers the oil, gas and banking industry. I never paid more than £6,50 for any prescription I needed. As a veteran with PTSD and are HSP, this has benefited me both in Belfast, NI and England. When I needed time off, my doctor would give me a doctor's notice which I gave my employer, and they would still pay me almost a full salary for the time I was gone. And when I returned to work, they gave me shorter working hours to readjust.
As you can see, don't go broke due to expensive healthcare. We can pick and choose our own doctors. We are just as free, if not even more than you, because we don't have to worry about getting sick and lose our jobs because of it. However, I do have an issue with the company Norton Antivirus in Athens on that subject.
I don't think you will find a single person in any of those countries aware of what your corporate "healthcare" systems provides wants to change their own with yours.
Again, you have my sympathy for poor choices and lack of basic education in this subject.
Cheap political tropes as "I don't want government to run my healthcare" as if that was ever a thing. What government does is COVER your healthcare. It doesn't meddle in whether you are worthy of treatment or not.
If you need selective surgery, the only "bad thing", is that you might need to wait a little longer. And those who can afford it, can choose a private clinic with no waiting time, but a lot more expensive.
Public healthcare has a basic rule that you don't have:
"The worst are the first..
to get treatment"..
And they don't charge you for it.
So I can certainly understand why Donnie and you hate UK these days. They are all SOCIALISTS despite a conservative government trying to strip that away.
Again.. my deepest sympathy for your lack of basic healthcare. As if you think you are free to choose whatever you want, but can't afford to pay for insurance. At least that would qualify you for Medicaid.
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@charlesfarmer3089 You have my empathy. Seriously.
As a Norwegian citizen who has lived, worked, or gone to school in 7 countries since the age of 17, including USA, you might say that USA has "special interest" in my focus on world news. I can clearly see how propaganda and fake news has influenced your sense of reality
You are a right that USA influences other countries. Sometime positively, and sometimes negatively.
However, what the protesters are demonstrating against is one thing.. what you think they protest against is another.
You can't afford health insurance. Yet you think that the Parisians wants what you have. Affordable healthcare run by private interests because you think that the government you elected is crooked. Well, in this case, the government you chose on behalf of others IS crooked.
Yet you think you are free to choose whatever doctor you want, and think you can afford an operation right off the bat. You think you are free when private industry runs the show. As if you have any influence over their policies.
You are dependant on whatever "service" ER can give you. Which is either government run, or over priced. You will be someone else's expense no matter how you put it.
You are just one injury, or one illness away from bankruptcy.
Both UK, France, Scandinavia, Germany.. All NATO allies, as well as Russia has one form of "government run healthcare"...Which means that private insurance companies don't have access to defraud you, or deny you coverage when you need it.
But you don't want that obviously. You obviously want to be scammed by an unregulated business who can charge you whatever they want for whatever drugs they push on you, as your private doctor can claim your house if you can't afford to pay your doctor's bill.
Because you think that the government you are supposed to have influence over is more corrupt.
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Jonny E Yes! You are wrong about the whole thing!
Decent people have a tendency to change their mind when faced with irrefutable facts, and a different angle than from what they have been spoon fed with like I was all my life until after my service.
+TheColorblindpony What? I'm wrong about the whole thing? That statement in itself is wrong. All the statistics I've said have been true, you guys just disagree on some of the moral or ethical stuff.
> It's true Palestine could have had a state many times over.
Last time they tried to gather under 1 banner, Israel went to war, and intensified their illegal settlements, what you are calling "buffer zones" for the religious zealots who hates Palestinians for existing.
> It's true that they've refused virtually every time.
It's true that this is not 100&% factual. Every time they have tried to negotiate, the demands from Israel has been more than unreasonable.
> It's true that up to the green line Israel is perfectly legal, and whatever it does to defend itself from terror attacks is its business.
You are alway refering violence committed by Jews as self defense, and perfectly legal, and defined attacks from Palestine as if they have been attacking unprovoked as evil terrorists since 1946. And you call yourself objective? Your so bias, and have learned so little, that I wonder if I havgfe wasted time on the class dummy.
> It's true that Hamas is a terrorist organisation...
Is it true that Stern and Irgun were also terrorist organizations and that Israel were built on terror? You are perfectly fine with that. But have not the intellectual capacity on WHO CREATED Hamas. You think Hamas were created just because they hate Jews like Nazis? Or was Hamas a creation of consequence of the creation of the terror state you claim have a right to live in peace while committing crimes against humanity?
I'll tell you what Einstein said about your heroes, the poor defenseless child killers in IDF and Knesset! HE equated them with Nazis! And when listening to Bibi, and Michelle Bachmann - YOUR allies in this eternal fight against uppity Muslims whom refuse the reality that they have no right to defend themselves as white, European settlers, and that only blonde Jews has a right to commit violence and kill little dirty Muslims scum growing up to hate Jews and become terrorists. Where do this hatred from this kids come from?
Truth is that Hamas is a creation of Israel! If Israel and their Zionists were reasonable, there would be no Hamas! Nor any PLO or Fatah for that matter!
http://www.wrmea.org/2002-november/israel-created-two-of-its-own-worst-enemies-hamas-and-hezbollah.html
And you seem to have difficulties grasping the fact that it's the policies you support that leads to more violence. And yu demand that a bunch of racist assholes should have the right to feel safe after committing a crime in someone else s property, you sir, do not have any respect for law and order, and think that anarchy and lawlessness is a good thing!
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According to the likes of you, it's brainwashing from Hamas (does not have power anymore in Gaza), or is it the fact that the bombs and bullets YOU call a defense for western values and killed their mothers and fathers?
There is a black/white situation here. And you are on the wrong side, both legally and morally. Yet you still insist on calling Jewish killers freedom fighters, and Palestinian resistance for terrorist. It's like calling Wermacht or SS a defense organization against Jewish terrorists in Europe.
THIS is why I equate what you are supporting a support with a Nazi style ideology with many similar tenant.s And if you listen to Bibi and Pamela Geller talk, you will get this confirmed.
No! I do not condone Palestinians using the religious aspect of it as I do not condone Jewish extremism.
Yet you seem to support Jewish extremists, and condemn the Palestinians for reacting the way they do as if yu would have reacted any different.
As -I have suggested, you could house a large family of ultra orthodox Jews. But you didn't want to do that. Instead you are so irresponsible and selfish to think that a Palestinian family should have to accept what you declined! I call you a hypocrite with no grasp of reality.
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Jonny E That's right. And none if any can claim to call themselves "Israelites" as if they were spawned directly from the wombs of Moses' bitches.
If anything, Moses' descendants are no Palestinians.
Many Israelis you see today are blond and have blue eyes. Jesus would be darker than Arafat.
But to go back 1900 years in time to find legal precedence to collectively move one people who's only link are their Talmud, it would be the first. No, wait! I think Stalin did the same thing to the Georgians and many of the Chechnyans to stop a popular uprising. He sent them to Siberia. Maybe it would be an idea for the Palestinians too? Shove them out of Palestine, take them on huge cargo planes, and ship them off to Siberia with a bootstrap and a good luck and ban of the practice of Islam?
By that standards, the original Brits should have Britain back, and all of Anglo-Saxon, or Norman blood move back to where ever they came from.
None of this makes sense. Specially not when someone is claiming that the colonists are innocent civilians being attacked by savage tribes who happen to live on the land before they do.
Other than that, it's been fun witnessing a city slicker try to teach a mountain man about the mountain, and try to discredit his credentials...
Better watch it! I'm a Norseman! My ancestors used to give their enemies the Blood Eagle. Fun to watch for people who like gory suffering with lots of blood and bone...
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Jonny E I'll make a few comments on selected falsehoods:
"My closing statement is that Israel represents freedom and a modern country"
Not to the Palestinians. The modernism of Israel rests on Palestinian corpses and destroyed villages. Israel rests upon the suffering of the people of the WB and Gaza.
IDF bombs does not represent any democratic values when they hit children.
"The problem of refugee camps created in the wake of Israeli independence could easily be solved by the Arab countries they are located in assimilating the ARAB PALESTINIANS into their Arab societies"
Good luck with that. Two million people coming over to Egypt, Libanon and Syria?
And no. They may have some Arabic blood, but they are still the people who lived according to the Torah until the Muslims came. Go back in history, and stop your false dichotomy as them being Arabs as if to prove something. In that case, the Ashkenazim from Kaukasus should go back to Ukraine, and not claim another people's lands based on religion. If you do that, then...Well...then..what does that differ from this Islamism you tried to tie to Palestine as the root cause for the conflict.
" Every Muslim country represents everything that every western country opposes."
I see that you are not only a novice about war, but also a novice about religions, geography and international politics. What you are saying is that 1.6 billion people represents everything you hate, and must be treated the same way as the invading army from Europe has done to Palestinians since 1946. And you claim to stand for humane principles?
Good luck with making 1.6 billion people your enemy, and then talk about fairness and terrorism. You seem to lose your grip matey!
"Palestinians did not always exist - they are a result of constant deadly attacks on Israeli civilians by the Palestinian "freedom fighters".
That does not make sense no matter how much I tried to twist my head meat around it.
So, someone who didn't exist suddenly turned out from thin air and attacked the poor defenselsess settlers who came to a completely vacated land?
Well, I see Golda Meirs propaganda have worked well on you.
700 000 people who didn't exist, suddenly turn up in camps in Gaza because of attacks in Israeli civilians? So Stern and Irgun who ethnically cleansed 400 villages that mostly housed Palestinian freedom fighters?
Wow! I'm trying to understand exactly what you mean. Other than that, a hilarious example of cognitive dissonans. It's like hearing the echo of Orwells new speech and double think. Can you do one more? I like a good laughter and a riddle late at night.
"And I don't see how you being a veteran makes you any more qualified to talk about the Israeli-Palestine conflict"
Yes it does. It makes me better qualified than you to talk about the consequences of these "military actions" and "security measures" you defend.
I once hated Serbs, because I was trained to hate Serbs. They were the enemy. They were the bastards. It was like that all the way until one day I was selling fish (working for a fish van) knocked on the door to some Serbs, thinking they won't buy anything.
I was wrong. They purchased 20 lbs of salmon, invited me in for a drink, and gave me a bottle of wine while I was sharing some of my experience with them. They are the only ones I have ever spoken to about what I was going through when serving. Never before, never since.
I was wrong with my hate until then the same way you are wrong now.
The Yugoslavian war is one mountain.
The Palestine/Israel conflict is another mountain.
You are a city slicker. I have been to one of the mountains. You have not. Hence, this makes me more qualified to talk about any war with civilian casualties than anyone who has not. Specually when the ignorant one starts talking pro-assymmetrical warfare and how that somehow represents freedom and democracy.
And you have clearly proved that you don't give rat shit about Palestinians, expecting Egypt, Lebanon, and Syria solve problems created by people like you while you at the same time accuse them as a cultural Christian of being your worst enemy.
I have given you chances. But now, you have proven how pathetic of a thinker you are. You have no intereste in fairness. You are only interested in defending the actions of Israel no matter how cruel they are, and still think those actions represents democracy, freedom and peace. It's people like you who will start WW3. And I HOPE you got the balls to walk the walk instead of bashing veterans as if we are ignorant numbnuts who do not know what we are talking about! I once put my ass on the line to make Europe safe from those "evil Serbs"! Isn't that what you war mongers says about "the troops" before sending them off to lands you cannot place on a map to defend democracy by bombing civilians, and then come back with a medal, thinking that the people you have destroyed have forgotten and equally forgiving as the Serbian family I met!
SHAME ON YOU!
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Jonny E What is the "bigger picture"? You say you care about the Palestinians, and don't condone their actions, yet still fail to condemn the action of Israel. "Some" of their actions. Now what would that be? You need a history lesson?
And if Israel represents the "modern world" and "western values" by deliberately shooting at UN buildings, homes, schools, hospitals and residential areas, you are delusional. Gassing people is also a Western invention. So is Antisemitism, witch burnings, pogroms, and 2 world wars.
Fencing off a whole population and their zealots to "keep themselves safe" is not actually working does it. And since you obviously do not know what you are talking about, this is lesson number !! The actions on the WB and Gaza is the root cause WHY Israel is being attacked by home made fire crackers!
Gow go back to your cave of superiority complexes...
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Jonny E Now WHY do you think that Palestinians would want to attack Israel?
I almost misunderstood, since you were describing what Israel and the Zionists have been doing since before they blew up the airport when the Brits were "protecting" the land after the grab from the Ottoman empire.
You insist that any attack from Palestine is a terror attack, while any mass killings of Palestinian kids are self defense. This is an indication that you are either a sociopath, or deeply disturbed if not brainwashed.
The whole deal is that if you as Christians, if we as Europeans took responsibility for our actions instead of shoving problems over on other people who had nothing to do with what Europeans have done since 380 when all other faiths than Christianity were brutally oppressed.
To shove this responsibility over to a people who have farmed the land since Roman times, and many converted to Islam is nothing but staggering.
The Palestinians does not have to accept anything. Yet you seem to demand that they shall have no say in this, and let pure Fascists run insane.
They are persecuting and committing violence against progressive peace activists in Israel. Voices have been raised about committing genocide, Avigdor Lieberman, a high ranking man in the extremist party have raised wished to shove the entire Palestinian people right in the ocean. Liebermans rhetoric is disturbingly similar to that of Josheph Goebbels.
And you excuse 2000 deaths the last war as "collateral damage".
Death tolls from this summer:
2000 Palestinians
44 Israelis
1 Civilian.
And you bitch about the PALESTINIANS being the terrorist.
Even David ben Gurion disagrees with you on the moral basis. He have said himself that he would become a "terrorist" if he was born Palestinian, experiencing what the Palestinians have been living through since 1948...
And the occupation of the WB and the Gaza wall is NOW the source of violence. The Palestinians did not chose this. It was imposed on them by zealots. And the settlements of the WB ARE illegal, and these settlements are hence legitimate target.
And if I was a Palestinian, I would pick up arms. As a veteran, I have become a pascfist. As a realist, I know what situations I would pick up arms again, and which not. I WOULD pick up arms if I lived on the streets of Zaza because my homje was bombed, and the ones bombing it, refuses me to build up my home again for my family. I WOULD pick up arms against anyone killing my children to make room for themselves and their immigrant relatives from anywhere not where I am from. What Hamas, Fatah, PLO and other have been doing is nothing more than what Geronimo would have done after finding his wife and kids slaughtered by invaders or settlers.
If you cannot grasp this angle, there is no hope for any further evolution in this discussion.
This will also be one of the causes for the next apocalypse. In fact, I'm almost looking forward to it. If man kind is so fucked up that it has to destroy itself to be happy, let'em.
You'll find me in my cave. Hoarded up with weed, mushrooms, beer, and Calvados working on a manuscript over Doomsday...
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Which problems?
wanna say that to your felllow transgender personell that they are not as fit to kill little brown kids as you are?
I see massive problems with bigoted pricks in the army whose a larger problem with transgender people than your own mental illness. Because you seem to be a major burden for ant tax payer funded mental ward.
I see not Chelsea Manning as a problem and a burden. And unlike most of her anti- trans enemies, she is a real hero..... Not like the mass murderer Sniper Kyle, but a real hero. She passed the psychological test when she signed up
if they pass the psychological test, then you have no business trashing into their lives as if they are a bigger burden than a bunch of psycho's in uniform who gets off on shooting civilians.
I am thinking of the dirty war criminal Sniper Kyle A friend of mine who is a veteran from the same wars have met him. He is one sick puppy.
I myself is a veteran from 23 years ago.
And I did not serve to let ignorant bigots with too much power get away with bullshit to deny others equal rights as if you are an ounce better than them or better suited to serve as expendable cannon fodder for an orange draft dodger.
The Native Americans treated transgender members of their tribes with reverence and respect. They were often shamen. They could take both female and male tasks in the tribe. They could both hunt and do women's work. So how were they a burden to their tribes rather than an asset?
Why are they being treated so poorly by people who claim to be the moral superior to the natives you murdered and stole the land from?
You say that transgender people are more likely to commit suicide than others.
Do you have any idea why?
Or do your army training deny you to explore possible causes for this? According to anti-trans bullies with power, it's because they are mentally ill perverts and continue to harass, assault and bully transgender people.
'You know what drives young kids in general into suicide?
You don't blame a bullied victim or a rape victimf for their suicides on their mental ilnness, do you?
No!
Why so many young transkids take their own lives is not because they are transgender, but because they are being bullied, excluded, harassed, and assaulted as kids.
You hear the stories from young transpeople how they were almost driven to sucide and almost feared for their lives due to endless torment from yoiur peers. But that is not why they take their lives, is it?
Do you still think that anti- transgender attitudes drives many people into depression and suicide?
It is people like you who bully them into denying who they are.
If this bullying is starting at home with a pair of "deeply religious" fundies who disowns thir trans child or isolate them from the world, it becomes even worse. On top of that, there is gender dysphoria. Which is a thing. All this is brain chemistry. While genitals says one gender, the hormone levels in their brains says something else.
This can be measured with a scanner. Transgender people have brain patterns more similar to the gender they identify with than the genitals they were born with.
Gender identity and sexual orientation does not lie in the genitals. Those lies in the brain. The only way you can place those things, like sexual thoughts or gender identiy crisis in your genitals is if you install your brain where your balls are.
You on the other hand has no respect and claim false authority to diagnose people who you know jack shit about.
*If you are so obsessed about transgender people and their so called -"mental illness", I suggest you do some research rather than spewing out asshat comments in with full Donning Kruger effect.
I think you should learn some real things...like science and empathy...
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@albenmurcia4716 On the contraire.....my friend...
Shamanism and natural remedies has been vastly under rated since it was suppressed by the Church.
I have to see the clip again to see what kind of intervention the last healer may have made and compare this to the procedure of the clinical scientists.
Whom are glorified drug dealer are the doctors you go to and get your fix of Prozac, opiates, sleeping pills, Adderall and other wonderful drugs which fries your brain and intestines-.
I grant that most people who call themselves "Shaman" are basically healers... Real Shamans goes through a brutal initiation period of insanity and illness.
First time I took a magic mushroom ceremony was with one such shaman.
It was out in nature. A small group of people. Intentions and vibrations was set.
Being a writer with a writer's block (not due to lack of material), and a wish to be able to start writing again, but without drenching my liver in booze. After doing some research, and made my intentions clear, it was time for me to have my first magic mushroom ceremony with people I have never met, and a shaman from the Philippines leading the whole thing. Turns out that his grand father used to be a shaman before Christianity took his parents. He calls himself a yogi. Certified. Practiced around the world until he ended in Norway. Been to India and studied.
What I got was something else:
I found out what has been "wrong with me" the last few years and what Kundalini Awakening was..
Realizing what these electrical vibrations and sensations I have had since 2011...
Still having issue with attacking the blank paper.. But the process I am going through these days are enough to write hundreds of pages..
Each mushroom ceremony has been a different experience internally... New revelations... about oneself and what we perceive as Real.
We do our collective ritual.... Get our medicine..And take our journey within.
A sitter is absolutely necessary.
That's what the yogi does. He also takes the medicine with the others.
The healing is done by oneself, in sync with Mother Mushroom and nature itself.
After 8 magic mushroom ceremonies the last 18 months, 1 ayahuashca ceremony, and one healing ritual with LSD and Changa/DMT, my 3rd eye is squinting. My electrical worm is spinning.. As those energy portals we call 'Chakras" is making my nights restless... And the chest area is having a blockage.. Sensing people's energies and intentions even from reading their written words. Walking among humans has almost become unbearable.
Whatever Bill Hicks said about magic mushrooms, what he said.. Can't argue with him...
So, this is what the mother mushroom does when it's done correctly. Psilocybin mushrooms is not a party drug, and certainly not for people who are not ready for it. However, herb medicine and psychedelics will replace pharmaceuticals and clinical institutions in the future. And even though I don't have much stock in religion, I cannot deny that there is more between the skies and this planet that we know of...
To paraphrase the immortal words of Aldous Huxley: Welcome to a Brave New Words Folks!
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@najmaalikhan So when is killing someone a valid reason
According to your Capitalist overlords and church fathers, killing people in the name of profit or in the name of some all judgemental god is a good enough reason.
And your god?
Your church institution?
A cesspool of Evil du joure.
Depending on who you ask.
All in all, your church, your religion has done more evil than good to humanity since the time of it's immaculate conception.
And your god?
A vindictive giant prick with a fragile ego.
If you have ever read your Torah, you would see that this guy is psycho who needs anger management.
I think that Capitalists, fossil fuel giants, power mongers, fundies and fanatics of all stripes who uses their position to oppress others are evil
I have a list.
Now, whether you think that this witch is evil or not is not my business
Whether she believes in the saints and the church dogmas or not, is not my business either.
What I do know, is that she's not that impressive as a match maker.
And also, cousins should not marry each other.
The Habsbruger jaw says it all
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SuperThumpasaurus Despots are always conservative at heart.
Do you think that Thomas Jefferson would support GOP today? The TPP? Cutting funding for schools, hospitals, VA to give that as tax cuts for the rich, and handouts to the oil industry?
Do you think that Jefferson would support fracking? Illegal wars across the planet? The "Patriot Act"? Gitmo? Abu Ghraib? Slashing unions?
Who's side do you think he would take during the OWS protests? The cops who beat the protesters and the bankers who stood, watching drinking champagne? Or do you think he would support OWS?
Do you think he would support the republicans calling themselves "Tea Party Patriots", or do you think he would support OWS who wanted social justice, and criminal bankers be held accountable?
Regarding economics and taxes, Jefferson was pre-Industrial by almost 100 years. He would never agree to the subjugation of the American farmer, the inhumane abuses of American labour by the trusts of yesterday or by today's impersonal corporate giants. Jefferson would be especially incensed by the development of an inherited aristocracy which he and so many other of the Founders railed against. That we are allowing inherited wealth to take over the government would be a real slap in the faces of those who risked so much and often times gave so much during the Revolution.
A revolution is always a radical move. And never done in the name of conservatism. Conservatism is static, while liberalism is organic.
Ever heard the phrase "what is radical today, is tomorrows establishment, which is next weeks conservatism"?
Seems that GOP are spokesmen for the privilege of inheritance while speaking of "self determination" and "bootstraps" when seeking to gut social programs that benefit the poor. Take away the little they have, criminalize them, and you WILL get another revolution on your hands.
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SuperThumpasaurus You know who was conservative in 1776? If that was conservative, do you think that King George were radical leftists and liberals?
Or do you think that the royalists were conservative?
The monarchists! The church! East India Company! The white slave owners in the south! THEY were conservative.
In comparison to them, both George Washington and Jefferson were radical leftists who went against the conservative ideology of the divine authority of the king by birth right.
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None of the bill of rights can be attributed to conservative ideas, but LIBERAL ideas. Liberal ideas means the right to privacy, the right to free speech, freedom from poverty, freedom of religion as well as freedom FROM religion. Conservative ideas are the opposite.
USA was founded on PROGRESSIVE ideas, learned from Native Americans. Look up Benjamin Franklin and where he got his radical ideas of a confederation.
Consvervative ideas like your are the ones holding US back. Your conservatism will eventually lead to a modern day feudal society where the new nobility are your corporate owners..
Typical RW ignorance and denial. Trying to hijack PROGRESSIVE ideas for your own disgusting RW ideology that has done nothing but destroy, lie, cheat, steal and commit genocide.
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Why will not Republicans condemn the Christian bombings of abortion clinics?
The list is long on why this republicunt will not condemn warrantless wiretapping, gay bashing, drones, Bush for sleeping at the wheel at 9-11, blaming Iraqis for it, lying the country and select countries into war, 1 million dead Iraqis, the Al Qaida lie (there is not such thing as Al Quaida),Gitmo, torture, water torture, war criminals, and general Christian fundamentalism?
Why will not this piece of human waste condemn his own party for claiming that baby Jesus support their extremist agenda?
This freak apparently have never read the Koran either. Or the bible for that matter...
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Leaked emails shows us a deeply corrupt DNC with both racist and anti-liberal sentiments.
What is the most bizarre is that DNC loyalists are more outraged over the fact that their leaders' fraud has been exposed and attack the messenger rather than focusing on the contents. They act just like republicans in this context.
The Clinton's sold out the democratic party for corporate donations.
Right now, Hillary is "honored" for getting the support from old neocons who failed their watch at 9-11 and orchestrated the crime called the Iraq invasion.
Hillary takes money from the same sources as republicans, and have more than once showed contempt for progressives, African Ametherericans and kids fleeing the drug war also orchestrated by both republicans and democrats since Reagan.
If you need more examples, ,just look at Florida. A state I have vistied myself numerous times as a kid. There, two corp. dems managed to win their primaries against real progressives. One has worked with republicans against other democrats, and resigned in disgrace as chairwoman of DNC. She also takes money from predatory lenders and think that the drug war is a good idea, claiming that pot leads to heroin addiction.
The other used to be a republican and had his rich daddy spit in a million dollar to smear Alan Grayson. Following the republican playbook.
Another example of how republican the DNC has become is the blatant elecction fraud, a bias media, and ignoring the voices of the majority of the voters. Not to mention the trail of bodies in the aftermath of the Wikileaks exposure. Accusing Wikilieaks of being in collaboration with Trumpand Putin.
Hillary's last speech is yet another example. Using necon talking points as USA being exceptional. That all othr countrries are despensable, and only USA is the savior of humanity. She used Reagan as a role model with her "shining city on the hill" reference.
The glee in her eye when talking about obliterating Iran.
She goes to pander to AIPac which is a conservative organization.
You apparently failed pol.sci as well as many other things since you obviously turn the blind eye to how corrupt the democratic party has become.
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Lachlan Allen The problem is that you use the argument of authority. Not only that, you are using an argument on false authority.
And it seems that you do not comprehend that.
Old testament is still a part of Christian dogma. And if you have bothered to do REAL research and not just listen to pundits with no historical or religious background, it's laughable. Ban on abortions, and "sodomy" laws was founded on church dogma. And didn't Kansas have "sodomy laws" until recently?
What Maher's, Harris and your problem is that you give ISIL too much credence.
And if you want to give Christians equal amount of time, I suggest you go back to 2003 and remember what Bush said about talking to the bible god (the same god as Muslims worship) which Muslim country he should attack - preferably an oil rich country he and his daddy has a beef with. And then we have the Crusade reference on the Eve of War.
I take my authority from my own studies, and the few teacher I have ever had an ounce of respect for.
He was my teacher in religion. He was one of Norway's first converts to Islam. After I did my tour of duty in Bosnia, I came home and started my studies after some months abroad, washing away the smell of war and uniforms, and started philosophy, religion and political science. History is a hobby of mine, and complements the other studies.
A neuroscientist would know as much about the big picture in this and Medieval history and bronze age mythology as I would know about neuroscience.
And what are "real Christians"? Is this the "no true Scotsman" argument?
Who are the "real Christians"? Anyone ever been "real Christians" in history?
Wanna see some fun?`
http://www.alternet.org/belief/some-right-wing-christians-enthusiastically-promoting-form-genocide
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2014/08/a-zionist-demanding-genocide-.html
So listening to these two clowns doing math on how many Muslims who would kill them personally is just as laughable as when Fox & Friends are doing it.
And none of them has ever set foot on a battle field or as much as put a uniform to have the moral right to be war hawks on Islam on behalf of "Liberal values"...
So unless you are ready to get your feet on the ground in Iraq, or Syria and face two enemies, then I suggest you talk quiet about "supporting action" against ISIL. You are playing it right in their hand without being man enough to take responsibility for your poorly chosen words and angle...
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@michaelbarquero6079 I'm sure you are better qualified to make these decisions over the doctors, therapists and parents who are their closest...
Strawmen is what bad faith concern trolls from malignant republicans are using to find new scape goats in your cancel culture wars.
Since when has idelogically and partisan driven RWers ever had a legit point but a chance to channel your inner perv and big government stalker when you are targetting vulnerable youth as if you know better what goes on in their lives than themselves?
Who are you to claim authority to determine and define other people's welfare, brah?
Why are you not advocating Med4All, equal treatment under the law (something you clearly think you are in a position to deny trans kids in specific as if you have personal stakes in your intrusive politics), worker's unions, living wages, free college, taxing the rich, regulating corporations, breaking up Wall Street, and fight for voting rights...etc..
Until you get kids, and trans kids yourself, please stop portraying yourselves as pervo stalkers with the right to probe other people's anuses.
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Jack R
Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism,[ characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce. Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete. According to many scholars, fascism—especially once in power—has historically attacked communism, conservatism and parliamentary liberalism, attracting support primarily from the far-right. Now, when your party claims to be conservatives, they are mislabeling themselves. They do not want to conserve anything. Republicans are not conservatives. Republicans are radical Fascists who gets wined and dined by the people they legislate on behalf for.
Three other factors of Fascism is racism, religion, and militarism. Sounds like a Drumpf rally if you ask me.
When RWers accuse bout "SJWs" for being "liberal Fascists" because liberals believe in equal protection under the law, RWers prove they don't know what they are talking about. Liberals believe that a country is for EVERYBODY. That everybody has a voice. Republicans think that having to treat LGBT people equally, they think they are suppressed and convince themselves their religious "freedoms" are being attacked. As if their religion allows to discriminate against anybody.
Your party - GOP is the party of white, whining authoritarians with bad hairdo's and misdirected admiration for a rich hedge fund brat who has never actually worked a day in his life.
GOP is not the party of the people. It's the party of the wealthy elites, using stooges like you to do their bidding. GOP is the party of oligarchs, religious extremists, gun nuts and people who yearns back to the Antebellum era when they didn't have to work for a living.
Take your lesson. Open your mind and embrace information that will shatter your little RW PC bubble.
Perhaps you will even become a better person.
But if you know better than Wikipedia, pol.sci in general, we are dying to learn about your genius and how you redefine terms to fit your PC sensitivities.
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Jack R
I think someone already has defined it for you, since you obviously lack the education, the knowledge or skill to do so.
So if you do not know the definition of Fascism, I suggest you stop denying your Fuhrer's political tendencies and his love for dictators, or get your school papers in order.. Like taking a few classes of pol.sci. which includes the subject of Fascism and Fascism.
When you vote, living under the impression that you live in a democratic republic, you are not actually voting your interest.
If you had any interest in politics, you would follow the money trail. Who pays your congressman's free lunches.
If you still choose to vote for an oligarch's puppet (who pushes for voter suppression laws, militarizing police, mandating "patriotism", tax breaks for the rich, cutting SS, medicaid and medicare, banning unions') because you think that poor people shouldn't get a living wage, be covered by healthcare, or be allowed to vote, or think that pot smokers belong as cheap labor in a private prison and hate "Socialism", you are by definition a Fascist.
If you rather want to pay more in taxes just so that Paris Hilton can get more free money from granddaddies wealth, you are a stooge.
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And why would people who cheat on their wives run on "family values" just to promote their warped version of Christianity above others? What you RWers are doing against the LGBT community is unconstitutional.
And NEVER use the Bill of Rights whenever you bitch about being "persecuted" by the "PC Fascists" when you are not allowed to discriminate publicly on religious grounds. Christianity does NOT have any favored position in the constitution. And if a Liberal Christian church wants to marry a gay couple, you RW nutbags have no fucking right to deny them to do so.
So go cry me a river and jump in it if you don't like people having the same RIGHTS and FREEDOMS as you. Move to a country where they favor religious zealots like you. I thin k you would like Iran, or Saudi Arabia. They HANG gays there. Well, in Iran, they give gays a choice: Imprisonment, or sex change. In Saudi Arabia, they just mutilate them. And they are YOUR allies against "terrorism" and "Islamic extremism".
So again, if you don't like the Bill of Rights and the RIGHTS that is ensured not only for insane fundies like yourself, but also "immoral perverts" who "likes it in the arse"..
So these "family value" nutbags deserve not quarters if they insist on throwing rocks in glass houses.
Besides, I think baby Jesus was more focused on other things than marriage. I think he was more of a "give to the poor", "heel the sick", turn the other cheek kind of guy. And I also think that your beloved bible had a range of other rules way before gaydom, which includes every single little "sin" you commit on a daily basis. Let's start with the Law of your own god. It's called the Torah.
While gaydom was hardly mentioned in there, plenty things of greed, lust, pride, dishonesty, and gluttony was far more focused on.
So why donæt you start looking in the mirror instead of acting holier than thou? I'm just warning you from your own texts. Your ways are the wrong ways. And if theres a so called, hell, you Christian hypocrites have tickets way ahead of any "sodomite" who likes to dress up in leather, and whang on his mate with a whip while they take turns blowing the cat. This is a victimless hobby. While whatever your preacher is howling about every single Sunday is very harmful Specially for kids, and gullible idiots who's Iq is double digit and education does not stretch 5th grade level.
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Then your tax dollars have gone to cover the expenses war crimes cost.
Hence, you carry as much guilt as the punk kids you sent to become mass murderers, like Sniper Kyle.
Organized religion is organized delusion.
Anyone who willingly takes their kids to mass on a Sunday needs their heads checked. They'd be prey for predatory Catholic priests.
Besides, fundies have allready come out of the woodworks, praising the mass shooting,
Labelling everything "terrorism" because it was a Muslims doing it, and failing to call what your tax dollars are going to the same is hypocritical in the 5th potence.
What ISIS is doing is what some American fundies are dreaming of doing And they look on with envy.
Wonder what you think of Saudi Arabia who does the same to gays as ISIS does (the difference is beheading) and gives money to the Clinton Foundation (and gets fat arms deals in return to use against civilians in Yemen)...
Wonder what you think of the thousands of American Christian parents who kicks out their LGBT kid in the street for being who they are.
Wonder what you think of Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, drone strikes, and the invasion of Iraq.
Because all these attributed to the existence of ISIS.
Without any of those, no ISIS. And it was all paid for by your hard earned tax dollars. Be proud! OWN UP TO IT! Starting to bitch about how barbaric everybody else are without seeing your own actions in context is just dishonest.
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leondraisaitl415 If you're such a common sense, white conservative, what is your solition to a made up problem in a city that you don't come from?
You really going to make me believe that you give a shit about the welfare of black Americans in empoverished neighborhoods?
Who you going to blame that on?
So come up with a real solition other than "more guns. more cops, and more tax cuts for rich people" with deregulations to follow.
Please, try to convince me that Reaganomics did such a good job in turning poor people rich.
When if comes to crimes, it seems that GOPers has set the standards with Nixon.
A racist slime lord who went cancel culture war against the same communities you now discard as "lawless".
Try to think outside your own partisan hack bubble for a change.
And explain to the same black folks in U Street why they can't have their own local elections, or statehood, while trying to shove down more militarized, white cops on a bender from out of state in their neighborhoods.
I'm pretty sure you have absolutely no persona connection to DC, or anyone near DC.
Yet have the nose busy body of a Karen with no real solution.
P.S.
You don't know my skin color. You just assumed I was black just because I don't speak conservative trash speak.
I'm glad I'm not an America convervative idiot, like you
Please, tell us about how your state is so bloody great. Tell us all about how conservative politics has improved your life in any way.
You really don't give a damn about "crime rates", among oppressed minorities, do you?
You don't even think that survivors of the Tulsa masscre done by white conservatives, like you should have any reparations. No white person who were connected to the lynchings should ever be held accountable. Cause that would be CRT.
Come up with some real solutions to the crime rates in your own state as you keep voting for cutting social welfare and cut taxes for the rich.
You from Alabama? Mississippi? Missouri? Kansas? Florida? Tennessee? West Virginia? Oklahoma? Vermont?
Tell us how Bernie Sanders is so wrong for America, and how Trump is so right for Murica.
I'm Norwegian btw.
And view you Americans as one giant freak show. Never mind that I once spent a year as an exchange student to Kansas 33 years ago, and saw first hand for myself, how you as a country and people is one sad and pathetic movie trope.
Without the self awareness. ¨
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Chazim76 Bush is the biggest clown that has ever occupied the White House. And his "election" was highly seedy.
What is dangerous about him was his puppet master. I mean, if I ever saw Evil incarnate before, I've seen it in the eyes of Dick Cheney.
So I can't wait for you RW macho heroes to sign up, and fight ISIL like the RAMBOs you are. So tough. So strong. So patriotic. So Christian. Onward Christian Soldiers
For God, and Country and Bush!"
Or capitalism? Or freedom? For oil?
And you sacrificed 500 000 Iraqis, 5000 American troops, and ten folds more injured and to suicides (I guess they werenæt MEN enough to take the heat, eh?), and for what? To get Saddam?
Your own close allies whom you gave blanket freedom to gas Iranians and Kurds with in the 80s when Reagan and Bush sr. was his best mates?
Bush jr. made USA the world's laughing stock, and the most hated nation on this planet. Whatever respect you earned during WW2 and in the 50s is now gone...Gone with the wind...
And you seem to have such love for a foreign leader than your own democratically elected one, that people might start questioning YOUR patriotism.
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Not more racist than Dump's question.
Besides, asking where they are TRULY from is not racist. Just curiosity about their cultural background.
Besides, "taking other people's land" as in colonization, ethnic cleansing and genocide is not racist. Just factual.
And yes, There has been a white, lutheran privilege in USA since before the foundation of USA.
Denying it is denying your own privileged status where the system is rigged in favor of you...
As if Africans has ever had equal opportunity in a country Dump supporters proclaimed is a "White, Christian country"....
here they bitch and moan over why brown people from Central America "has to go where white people live"...Some punk bitch with a Greek name actually wrote this. Made me think of the time after I got back from Athens, broke, unemployed and injured after spending a year there, and wanted to burn half the ancient city to the ground. A Greek bitch claiming USA a land for "white people".
See.. America is the result of 500 years of European racism.
Denying that is denying your own racist past.. Where you will push the Irish in front of you in this case as a crutch for your alleged victim-hood.
It's not the real you talking.
It's that fragile ethno-sentric ego that has been shoved down your soft brain by others that is talking.
I'm Norwegian. Some call me viking. Does that stop me from taking a piss at my own kings from 1000 years ago? Don't you realize that many of them were complete psychos? What makes me wonder if that psychopathy mixed with an insane religion may have triggered "your race" to start plundering the world for your European robber king and Christ.. Two European institutions which could give Al Capone a run for his money in mafia style thuggery.
I have no issues with accepting the bloody past of our ancestors.
I have no issues taking issues with mislead Irish nationalism. And I love Ireland. I have lived and worked there for 5 years. From Belfast in the north, through Dundalk, Leixlip and Dublin. I consider Dublin almost a 2nd home of mine.
So these are the tree things you have taken for granted as real which they are not:
Nationalism is fake. Man made. Created for the sake of division. Based on fear. The false notion that you are any different from any stone age tribe who still uses their shaman to cure illnesses.
Religion is fake. Man made. Created for the sake of division and fear. Gives you the false notion that your dogma and mental indoctrination makes you any different or more pious than others who do not share your upbringing.
Money - Capitalism. Man made. Created for the sake of greed, and class division. The notion that someone are entitled to enrich themselves through the work of others through speculation.
Rid yourself of these shackles, your mind might get free, and your arse will soon follow.
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It's because you created those refugees. YOU created those shit holes. Iraq was inhabitable until you white Christians came and thought you were entitled to their oil.
After having one's home has been blown up by your Christian, American made bombs, even your shitty shanty towns would suffice..
Ever seen Detroit?
A result of "free market" Capitalism and free trades which Dump has made money off. Now, it's being run by republican dictators. Who defunds everything that might benefit poor people and give their donors freeway to buy up properties for cheap while people go homeless.
So if you own a MAGA hat because your parents brought mindless, witless, drooling fool like them, but have enough reading skills to read labels, check out where those hats were made.
USA is a FAILED country.
And I will live to see the day your shit hole country crumble at the seems...Making YOU into refugees. So where will you go after you have destroyed a land you stole?
Back to Europe for some Socialism and free healthcare?
Another scenario is that the entire Middle East will become inhabitable due to that "Chinese hoax" called climate change.
Florida will sink. California dry out and become like the Middle East... And your coast lines will be filled with oil spills, and no fish. The rest of your shitty country will have droughts, extreme weather, super storms, and floods.
Imagine DAPLs oil spills coming right up to your back yard.
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+Amanda Summers
Really?
Are you really living with the impression that people live up to 1000 years 3000 years ago because the Bible says so?
If you're so interested in conspiracy theories, why not start digging in the giant conspiracy of Christianity, making a MAN into a man-god and zombie 40 years after his alleged death?
Why not dig into the roots of Christianity itself and the history of Christianity rather than waste time with folly ideas about evolution?
This is why I don't understand why you Xtians are so obsessed about evolution as if your alleged salvation depended on everybody coming from Adam & Eve.
So! According to your little book of Bronze Age myths, the entire humanity came from one family alone. 8 people!
If evolution was not true, then we wouldn't have so many different ethnic groups of humanity.
If evolution was false, then Aboriginese, Chinese, Native Americans, Africans, Arabs or Europeans wouldn't exist!
We would all be of a single tribe or single ethnic group. Unless you would claim that we would evolve super quickly in 4000 years.
Oh, and by the way?
When exactly did this world flood that killed the entire humanity except those 8 you come from in the Bible?
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Zen Marshall Dead? We here still make money and spend money.
And we have a public healthcare sysem.A bit long winded and a lot of silly red tape, but still we are all entitled to healthcare that works.Now, in Norway, our RW government wants to cut down on social welfare, healthcare, and even centralize it as if it was Soviet union. They give tax cuts to the rich, and will from next year outlaw poor people by banning begging on the street. But they are against the "nanny state" . We can now buy more on tax free!
And we can ride segways where the beggars from Romania and Bulgaria (gypsies) used to sit!
And in the name of national interest, they want to sell out corner industry from government to foreign private interests. We will soon no longer own our own wealth and natural resources.
As far as the rest of Europe goes, I think you are painfully ignorant about the facts. I know you are.
During the last 10 years, I have been living and working in 5 different EU countries. This is what's wrong with two of them.
http://bohemianwriter1.wordpress.com/2011/04/26/whats-wrong-with-ireland/
http://bohemianwriter1.wordpress.com/2013/12/04/whats-wrong-with-greece/
The problem in these countries are not the welfare system, but LACK of such. Tax breaks for the rich, for the church, for corporations, and tax hikes on everybody else while they cut down on welfare programs.
As far as what's wrong with USA, the list is endless. And what seems to fill most of the list are RW policies, and insane lunatics with religious delusions.
I hardly think that you are in the right position to play expert on Europe when you hardly grasp realities in your own country.
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***** Lot's of misconceptions about Socialism. I have lived in a social democratic country with a constitutional monarchy. Compared to all countries I have been to, Norway is ranked on top 10 on living standard, social welfare, healthcare, economy, and freedom of the press. However, like most travelers, I think that Norway as my own country is a lovely country to leave.
We have multiple party system, with two main blocks, the left and right, and the center as balance for political horse trading.
Now, we have a RW government, seeking to slash welfare programs, lower the welfare rate, give tax cuts for the rich, release the long awaited segways, and banned begging on the street (probably to make room for rich fat lazy segway drivers). We have one particular tax evader to Cyprus who demands that the Norwegian navy protect his oil tankers.
Norwegian politics may not be as entertaining as yours, but it's picking up :-)
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Eric S. I've been to Florida actually.Several times. I was a kid though, but still. Caribbean was sort of a summertime fun time when I was a kid. My step father worked in Norwegian Cruise Line in the 80's. That's when I was in love with USA and everything american. But I didn't notice many Cubans there. But I imagine that the first wave of Cuban refugees were a bunch of Batista and mafia cronies, and other RWers.
Why don't you have as much concern for the peasants living under RW banana republics funded and supported by CIA and military for decades? Castro's atrocities are miniscule in comparison to the US. supported Pinochet regime in Chile. Or what the US government is doing to it's own people. How many have you in prison now? And how many for weed? 700 000 last time I counted. What I find ironic is when USA condemned USSR as an oppressive regime, Nixon went to war on drugs, and inspired John Lennon to write John st. Clair after the man got sentenced to 10 years for two joints. Today, black women goes to prison for defending themselves against violent boyfriends, and white people go free when killing unarmed black kids.
As far as imprisoning a writer or two in Cuba is repulsive. I am a writer myself. But look what you are doing to your own journalists and truth tellers? Look what you want to do to Julian Assange, and Glenn Greenwald! Look what you have done to Chelsea Manning!
But the notion that Castro is Satan himself, and then go on an unforgiving boycott for decades against him for a handful of political prisoners?`Hell! You have more of them on Gitmo! Castro have survived 9 presidencies and 6 presidents. He's survived attempts to assassinate him. He's got a higher popularity score than your own government. He's been pointing nose at USA and inspired other countries in Latin America that USA so arrogantly have called their backyard. You have lots of cheap goods from there thanks to your governments support of oppressive regimes ruled by a Castilian elite of old nobles. Like Raphael Cruz
And now, a president in a small country that once was ruled by a pure Fascist dictatorship is showing how both Christianity and socialism works in practice. The president of Uruguay. He has legalized marijuana and gives away 90% of his salary as president. He's also an Atheist.
Are you serious about USA or Americans in general calling themselves "liberal " or "conservative" are in any moral position to cast judgement on other countries that does not dance after the toons of Uncle Sam, while spouting the eternal meme of "American exceptionalism"...?
Hold my holier than thou syndrome!
This is one of the reasons why you are no longer loved around the world. That is one of the reasons why I look upon USA with a bit different eyes than from before I went to Kansas as an exchange student at 17, 25 years ago!
And from my perspective, as one who thought that all this christianity and fake "school spirit", the nationalism, this romantic crush on a constitution that the few seem to have read, and fewer seem to understand., was a bit weird, now you seem to have lost your marbles completely.
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Jim20 Castro was never half as bad as your average teabagger congressman whose been taking govt, checks while doing nothing, or obstruct, or ram through unconstitutional policies in the middle of the night.
If Hemingway was a friend of Castro, he couldn't have been all bad. At least not as bad as Louie Gohmert, Rush Limbaugh, Allen West, Michele Bachmann, John Bohner, Mitch McConnell, Ted Cruz and his fascist dad Raphael Cruz and the republican party as a whole In fact, your party in congress have a lower approval rating than Castro. So your party is more hated than a small time dictator with the smallest rap sheet you can imagine if we measure up to what GOP has been up to since Nixon.
I can only imagine hoe you yearn back to the "good old days" when Batista, the puppet dictator made sure to uphold the interest of foreign money at the expense of his own people.
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You couldn't fight yourself out of a wet bag.
You have just painted a big, and legit target of every MAGA chum as you promote WW3 to protect the fragile ego of your draft dodger in chief btw.
Would rather waste a money on nukes to blow things up than giving your own kids healthcare, and an education.
Another dead beat ready to become a corpse for an old dead beat with fake bone spurs, a double digit IQ, and the world's most inflated ego..
I think the retaliation has just started.
Besides, the Iraqi government don't want you there anymore.
Makes you illegals in their country. .
So instead of spreading peace, making deals, and common ground, your maniac has pushed Humanity one step closer to WW3.
Russia is Iran's closest allies.
China has bought in as arms dealers.
The Saudis, the Israeli Likud, and the Turks holds your orangutang in chief by his tiny balls.
EU & NATO stands at a moral cross road.
Follow the lead of your narcissistic outrage, or re evaluate their relationship with USA.
Wanna play HARDBALLS, tough guy?
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I have an investment advice for all you hard working well to do Trumpanzees out there.
The yacht market!
Or soon, the private jet market!
And if you can't afford any of these because you're a sucker who would work for a dime, and a banana in your arse, you can always apply as deck boys, cooks, dish washers, toilet cleaners, yacht salesmen,. carpenters, ship builders, engineers, sailors,te stewards, servants, jizz catchers, waiters and underlings.
It's gonna be GREAT! Believe me! It'll be beautiful!
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+dazana blake Put it like this. If you believe in Capitalism and vote republican, you cannot be a Christian.
Those mass killings done by Republicans in your name for your tax dollars makes you an accomplice.
You have nothing to back up your otherwise false accusations with. Which means, that instead of actually answering where you get your information on Islam from makes me believe you know nothing about what you are talking about.
You are either just incredibly dumb, or masquerading as dumb to hide that you are inherently brainwashed with no interest in finding facts but insist on clinging on to your old CHRISTIAN hate of other religions. Because you "Christians" have proven time and time again that you are violent, bigoted, hateful, deceitful, dishonest, greedy, self righteous,
YOU can deny the truth all you want. Islam is by far more humane than your version of "Christianity" can ever be.
How do I know that? I know Muslims who take their 5 Pillars very seriously, where hospitality towards strangers is one of the key, perhaps the most important pillar of them all. It's the exact same verse that Jesus and the Pope spoke of in caring for the refugees you label as terrorists.
I also see that what good Musliims did in helping the Jews against Christians throughout the centuries are ignored. In your eyes, they are still evil, or not "real Muslims". Because according to yourself, you are educated on the subject. Even though you haven't read a single sentence from the Quran. Jesus is a prophet in Islam. I gather that Jesus is evil too eh?
How sad. How pathetic. How typical anti-Pope Francis and Jesus of you.
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+dazana blake You don't know anything about geopolitics or religions closely related to Christianity do you?
Did you know that Islam is almost exact like Christianity? So if you condemn Islam you are condemning your own falsely claimed Christianity. Mohammed took ALL of his mythology and his social justice from Jesus and the biblical angel Gabriel.
If you don't see the huge problems your ideology creates but rather want to scapegoat the people you want to kill is astonishing. It's like you have lived in a RW republican bubble of misinformation your entire life. You are so fucking stupid and brainwashed that you don't see any difference between Sunnis, Shias, and Wahhabism and lump them all together. Just like your kind lumped all Jews together inside their synagogues before setting it on fire. An old Christian tradition from a time when Christians like yourself blamed Jews for all their miseries while wallowing in ignorance, suspicions and collective hysteria.
The only reason why ISIS exists, is because of USA. And now, you want to go to war against the countries that fight against ISIS. I suggest you just get the fuck out of Middle East and don't put your fat red arrogant noses in other countries affairs. You are in no moral position to do so.
As far as religious issues goes, I think the Native Americans consider your Christianity a bigger threat to their existence than Islam. After all, their culture was killed by Christianity and livelihood and property stolen by Christians.
No Muslim country has ever invaded USA. USA have however invaded or meddled in their affairs since 1953 when you ousted Mossadeq, a secular, democratically elected leader with a brutal puppet dictator who sold off their oil treasure to BP and other western oil companies. As if natural resources for the benefit of everybody shall lie in private hands with profit motives as their most important agenda.
Comparing Islam with Christianity, Islam is democratic and almost secular in comparison. The Quran promotes freedom of religion, freedom of conscience, science (Ilm), and equality between the people's of the world. If you don't believe me, then look up in a book you have never opened and look for yourself. The people in ISIS which you created acts more like crusaders 1000 years ago than the Muslims I know.
Like stated, the biggest threat to world peace and stability is republican dogma. It's cancerous and poisonous. It's like an oil spill. Every single republican or democrat who voted for the invasion of Iraq and the "Patriot Act" should be arrested, impeached, and sent to the War Crime Tribunal in Hague. Dick Cheney should trade place with American heroine Chelsea Manning.
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+dazana blake "Well deceiving people is definitely not acting right. Jesus said we are to question everything, even our leaders who can be corrupted. That's why he questioned the Pharasees. People in power are always corrupted throughout history, don't act like it doesn't happen, just look at your own President Obama, he is very corrupted. "
So please explain, how does the pope deceive people in ways that you pretend Christians on the right are not? Since when have you ever gotten the life lie that you have ever believed in a single word that your priest allegedly should have taught you about charity to the poor, community by sharing, pacifism, and caring for the refugees you have created with all your wars?
Seems that in this case, you are the pharisee and should have your motives and your genuine faith be questioned.
400 years ago, the Pope would have gotten you burned at the stake for mercy and blasphemy. The kind of Christian tradition your side seem to have an affection for. In this case, it's obvious that you don't give a flying fuck about Jesus in any way. And should stop pretending to be a follower of him. Calling yourself Christian is an obscenity in itself.
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@porkypig9748 See, that's the problem with you RW snowflakes.
You can't handle a banter, and deflect from facts..
So when you whine about "envy of the rich", I think you have a bigger problem with trying to explain why you think that your owner deserves to earn 4 million times more than you just by sitting on his arse and speculate, and wants to take your anger out on me, since I.. buuhuu allegedly insulted you.
Not as if you were demanding respect form those "libs" you like to trash talk anyway. and now you cry like a whining orange bitch at 3 AM for getting your own medicine in return and some ugly questions regarding your entire sense of the word "envy".
If you choose to live as a stooge and an NPC for billionaires, then you don't have any reason to complain when you throw you lips around and get anything else but circle jerking cheers.
You either grow up and grow some thick skin, or stop pretending you have what it takes to survive in the dirty world of politics and partisan trench wars on behalf of your favorite republican donors and your boss who you think have your best interest at heart when he denies you health coverage, and ovetime pay.
So keep being an empty headed sucker.
But don't blame me or anyone else for your own choices. This means also moronic statemements on the mirky sides of the web.
So in the word of Jordan Peterson: Clean your room, clean up your act, and the world won't treat you like an uneducated trailer trash with no teeth and a nasty past as a KKK member.
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That entitlement syndrome of thieves and murderers who think that laws and treaties does not apply to you, but everyone has to bow down to your superiority complex while you destroy the planet and humanity in the process. At least we know that your kind have no sense of justice, law and order, or have the people or this planet in your interest. Your only interest is to defend oil companies who funds Shillary Clinton, and Trump's investment in land theft while he talks about building a wall as if Europeans have natural entitlement to everything we see regardless of who we hurt in the process.
Now, explain to me how the fascist cops and the dirt diggers are protecting an ounce of land where they desecrate ancestral graves that does not belong to them? How are these dirt diggers any different than golddiggers who violated the law and was protected by the cavalry in the process?
Now tell me how Andrew Jackson is such a hero in your racist history?
We who are in Europe, we are supposed to have learned from history from Holocaust. You on the other hand takes pride in it, but seems hellbent on treating Native Americans as Christians treated the Jews just because you think you are above the law, moral standards and simple respect for others.
But I will tell you this: If those corporations you defend can do this to native Americans, they can do the same thing to you and the rest of your shitty, freeloading, squatting family on stolen land.
And you will have earned every single bullet and club from them since you have the moral spine of a tapeworm and defend these criminals.
Karma is a bitch, baby!
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It's rigged against the PEOPLE!
When republicans have come to power, it's not because the majority of all voters have gone to the polls for them. It's because most couldn't be bothered to vote for scam artist A or scam artist B, being given only two options in corporate media, or republicans have done cross-check voter purges.
They see two similar names to each other and cross both names off the voter roll...presuming that these persons are one and the same, and denies both their right to vote.
Not to mention doctored voter machines, lack of paper trail..everywhere republicans rule with a large minority population, this goes on in minority precincts all over. Never in white, affluent areas.
On to of that, your favorite propaganda channel among the 5 are skewing the narrative, elevating a fucking reality TV star, where they even show an empty stage before the orangutan enters the stage while they completely ignore the rallies Bernie held with massive turnouts.
They had a media blackout on Bernie, and had 24/7 coverage of a scam artist and the future groper in chief.
It didn't help much when DNC used republican tactics to disenfranchise as many Bernie voters as possible, securing a so called win in the southern states where the white supremacist spawn of KKK and confederate traitors run the show. In other words, DNC shot themselves in the foot for relying on the black vote in the south, rigging the election elsewhere by the same kind voter suppression that GOP and ALEC has imposed in the deep south.
History took a nasty turn for the worse when Bernie was bereaved of his rightful nomination, and most likely a presidency today.
If a republican Trump regime is to quell protests, they are proving that they don't care about the American people, the constitution, or the patriotic act of dissent against a tyrannical government more corrupt than ever.
The Trump camp has asked Jamie Dimon in Morgan Chase to be the Secretary of State.
So if you think you have voted for change....HAHAHAH!
Sucker!
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Well...At least we know that no republican who calls themselves "Christian" and voted for Drumpf, does not have the right to call themselves, "Christian", since they hate both refugees and LGBT people and wants law that treats them different than the privileged white elites who blames minorities for their own shortcomings. White republican voters who claims to love their bibles are the biggest bunch of whining pussies I can imagine. They also hate the Bill of Rights...They must also hate what they once used to stand for "give me your poor, your tired, your downtrodden"..Everything that SJWs like Johnny Cash, Woodie Guthrie and Pete Seeger stood for.
We also know that we have our own RW SJWs...They want their safe spaces, and have their own PC outrage every time some football player won't bother to stand while a deeply racist ntl. anthem plays and think that their right to own guns is more important than anything else in the constitution. As if your average gun nut has ever been a part of a well regulated militia, or ever served in uniform.
So, since you RWers don't have empathy or humanity for the refugees from wars created by your neocons and neolibs, what makes you and your filthy gang if unwashed thugs and trailer trash with no education are entitled to any sort of consideration, or to be treated as humans? Why can't these losers who voted for Trump blame themselves for being such losers rather than blaming someone else for their misery and failed existence? Why can't these asshats just use their guns on themselves?
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So Saudi Arabia is a paradise for anyone NOT taking pics with cats, women, girls who gets married off to old gits, slave labour from Bangladesh, LGBT people and Atheists (proclaimed as terrorists by default)...
Islam is as weak, false and worthless as the Roman made cult of Christianity.
A source of comedy. Islam can be beaten with comedy. Satire. Humour, mockery. Bedcause Islam looses when it resorts to violence to protect it's house of cards from words.
Islam is JUST like Christianity. Can't even live in peace with itself.
When your clerics claim that their moon god demands tht anyone not adhering to THEIR warped sense of reality, they miust die, it's time to give up and become either Atheists, or Buddhists.
P.S, A dog is ten times more valuable to humanity than this cleric, or any other cleric, whether he is a Muslim or a child molesting priest protected by Ratzinger.
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None or very few Muslims take their Koran literally. People are different.
And if you have had discussions with Christians and Muslims of diverse backgrounds, you will soon realize that there are very few who agrees on everything or even anything.
There are 41 000 different Christian denominations - or sects as I like to call them.
There are 73 different sects or denominations divided between the 5 main sects in Islam: Sunni, Shia, Ahmadiyya, Wahhabism and Sufi.
https://www.alislam.org/library/73divisions/73-09.html
So both Sam Harris and Bill Maher are wrong, claiming that all Muslims follow their Koran literally (they would be studying science, and traveled, and done inner Jihad, and given to charity). If they only did. They would be seeking knowledge, and not ignorance.They would strive to become better persons instead of imposing a fake sexual purity on others and then do rapes themselves in the name of Allah and call for violent jihad against all infidels. What Maher seem to think that only head cutters, wife beaters, child molesters, and suicide bombers are "true Muslims"...
And if one should take an educated assumption from the Koran, or Mohammed and his own views, I'm sure he'd rather spend time with a pacifist drunken scholar than with an insane suicide bomber who beheads writers and aide workers in his spare time...
However, that is just speculations. We do not know the mentality of the Dark Ages compared to today.
But what we do know, is that self proclaimed Islamists want to take Islam and the world back to a Christian dominionist style world pre - renaissance. You know, pre -science, and pre enlightenment times...
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@johnmartin4641 Apoarently, you have never studied pol. sci. philosophy, or history, and just gags whatever comes out of the mouth of those fascist thought leaders out to ban books.
No one on "my side" which is progressive has ever gone on a iwitch hunt against books like your fascist side.
And now, you are just out for vendetta as a reich-wing authoritarian towards anyone not bowing down to your fascist ideology.
Read about WW2, and see where your racism, fascism, anti-antisemitism, and lynch mob mentality comes from.
Don't forget to read about those all white American lynch mobs your parents do not want little shits like you to learn about.
Go read a book and then sodomize yourself with your own loaded gun.
If you are a nationalist and a identify as a purist church goer who loves cops, "law&order", shooting BLM protesters and people who are against fascism, like "antifa", that makes you a black shirt fascist.
Look at your ownPRIDE obsessed "Proud Boys" who got arrested on their way to terrorize a PRIDE parade.
Only fascists like you seek reparations and to hurt others as well as silencing them if we hurt your feelings.
If you think that fascist are progressives and leftists, it's projection.
Since you cannot define what fascism is with your limited grade school education.
Fascism is a RW ideology.
And you still hate railway workers who strike for paid sick leave.
That defines you as a fascist.
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SuperNeckbeardBasement Somalia is the religious fundamentalist and Randist wet dream. No centralized government. War lords controlling the wealth. No healthcare, No social security. But lot's of religious nutcases carrying around guns.
So Somalia will also be like a Disneyland for gun nuts.
Want to see social democracy in action?
Try Iceland. There they ARREST criminal bankers, and kick their corrupt government.
Try Norway, Denmark. Sweden, Finland. Try Netherlands. A country that has in practice legalized pot the last 40 years. We are also among the most peaceful and most stable democracies around.
Look us up. Visit us. See if any of us who have been to USA as well would rather have your system and your wet dream of Somalia, or if we like the social democratic system.
Like said. If you don't want to do your duty as a citizen, I am sure that someone would gladly take your place and live, work and pay taxes gladly. Somalia lies in EAST Africa just to let you know.
USA is a lovely place to visit. But I would never live there. Not even as a millionaire.
Reagan rode in on lies and cheap rhetoric. "Government isn't the solution, it's the problem". He proved exactly how government CAN become a problem with 8 years in office, re-instigating an old war on his own people, Nixons war on drugs. So government CAN be a problem depending on who holds office. And government has been in the wrong hands since Nixon. With a few years of sanity under Carter. A very religious person who kept his religious beliefs private. Unlike a cheap b-actor who pandered to the "Moral Majority" and greedy capitalists.
You, the people ELECT your government. You cannot elect your bosses, your corporate ownersm or your warlords. And they OWN you. You're just too stupid to realize it.
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BlunderCity Here's the deal professor! The greeks were forced upon terms that was leaving the people dry and jobless. If you wanna insult people before trying to give a lecture and thnk you well get through with your message, you should NEVER seek to any diplomatic core.
The whole Eurozone was a scam from the get go, and THAT was initiated by a certain Goldman Sachs.
What you fail to realize is that other governments like Germany does not have the right to take essential out of the hands of the Greek people. And this is what they demand while they demand cheap Ouzo while vacating in the Greek islands.
Off course Creece can tell the leeches to take a hike! Specially when foreign governments are trying to dictate internal economic and social policies!
The whole problem with Greece is way too complex than just to say "Greeced borrowed money freely from the IMF and other EU countries and squandered it away).
And just for a note: Don't blame public expenses in the healthcare system, or the education system. I had to go to a public hospital in October 2014 with a fracture under my left knee, and a broke jaw after being attacked by some Golden Dawn thugs (whose part leadership is now in prison despite large fundings from billionaire shipping barons who hate the notion of paying taxes)
May I also add that the political system has been so corrupt for so long with the power struggle between a few families from different parties . but equally dirty. And these lay the groundwork for this crash together with Goldman Sach, and cooking the books to have their credit rating higher than it really was.
¨So again.. There is no reason why the Greeks should not take their fate in the own hands again instead of having to be the serfs of some wealthy European countries who have all the welfare system they need, but want to deny others because their debt is so much more important. I'm sorry. But you cannot make me cry crocodile tears for either IMF, ECB, Merkel or Hollande!
The austerity measures that the Troika of EU, ECB and IMF demanded that the Greek government give up many of their assets to private interests. This is demanding that one have to give up source of income to please creditors whom shouldn't have any personal interest in forcing a sovereign government to give up resources to private interests.
bailout loan for Greece, conditional on compliance with the following three key points:
Implementation of austerity measures, to restore the fiscal balance.
Privatization of government assets worth €50bn by the end of 2015, to keep the debt pile sustainable.
Implementation of outlined structural reforms, to improve competitiveness and growth prospects
How do you improve growth aspects by forcing a government to sell out cheap like a broke monopoly player landing on Park Avenue with a Hotel?
I have seen way too many homeless people, some of whom have been beaten by Golden Dawn to take you seriously in your self proclaimed educated analysis over the issue.
The recipe of austerity was about to lead to disaster. I have some scars to prove it. And that disaster is frustration, scapegoating, nationalism, racism, hatred, violence, and blood on the streets.
So when we now know that austerity does not work, and the Greeks have decided no more of such, do you have any liable solution that will not punish normal people even more?
P.S. Wall Street got handed 700 billion tax dollars no questions asked. You know what happened? They gave themselves giant bonuses, and continued to gamble with other people's money. Tax payer guaranteed. No risks involved. Unless you are a home owner, or s small timer saver.
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Really?
I guess that in your eyes, every single black person cops murder, or abuse somehow deserve their fate because the cops are always right and their victims are somehow criminals?
This is what''s wrong with your privileged culture.
You have never left your bubble, never faced hardships, and have zero empathy or reality.
If you think that it's normal admirable behavior by grownups to treat teen-age girls like that (as long as they are not white and rich), you must have lost the last few marbles that holds your head meat together.
But then again, you fawn blindly over authority figures...
Perhaps that's why Don the Orangutan King Dumm is the republican nominee.
What once happened in Germany in the 30s is about to happen in USA.
And this time, the targets are journalists doing their job, African Americans, Native Americans, undocumented immigrants, Muslims, liberals, environmentalists and anyone with a vision a bit longer reaching than their own nose tips and their bank accounts.
As far as these cops, they have taken off their white hoods, and do things like this openly. This time they are being filmed.
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Not about mental illness.
It's about how the biology of the brain does not match the body it inhabits.
The "illness" is GID.
The depressions and suicide thoughts are not ,merely caused by GID, but by outside influences. Like attitudes from bullies, bigots, religious zealots, harassement, fear of being themselves, assault, sexual assault, violence and even death. THAT is what causes so many trans people to consider suicide. It's especially bad some if these things occur in the transgender person's own family, where their parents become their first bullies.
The treatment is hormone replacement and SRS for those who need it.
The treatment for their depressions is a supportive environment.
That's how they cure the "mental illness" of GID.
So try to put yourself in some other shoes.
Imagine you get a kid who has GID from a young age and is consistent.
What do you do?
Do you support your own flesh and blood, or do you send your kid to some religious "pray the gay away" camp?
Do you shame your child and become a part of the lynch mob, or do you support your child and defend it against bigotry?
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So what moral basis do you have to deny people to serve for who they are?
And what is so moral about joining the military, go to another country and blow up a lot of buildings and people anyway?
I am a veteran from Norway, your NATO ally from the Bosnian war in 1993.
I also support equal protection under the law, and that trans people be treated like everyone else. This means that discriminatory laws should never be up for vote. That's the REPUBLIC part of a democracy. That's the Bill of Rights parts. Where some things are not up for negotiations just to pander to people's random prejudices.
Their needs are not more costly or more immoral than other veterans who gets viagra from the same taxpayer trough. If a trans person is willing to put his or her life on the line for you, then his or her GRS is just your way of saying "thank you" as much as you paying for a new limb for a wounded soldier, the medical cannabis for a poor veteran, or the viagra for traumatized veterans is your way to say...
"I am grateful for your service. What can I do to show my gratitude? Are you homeless? My home is your home! You you hungry and have nothing to eat? Feast on my dime! Are you a transgender person who has tried to escape yourself by joining the army, bullies, harassment and even murder? I apologize for my cisgender brethren and sisters, because they do not know what they do. If I can help you with whatever you need to be happy and seek the American dream, your GSR is the least I can do!"
That is the only duty you have as a fellow human being, an American and as a Christian have to do since the draft no longer exist, and people like you don't have to serve. So be grateful that someone are willing! That's where your prejudices stops at the door.
That is the ONLY thing you should be allowed to say to ANYONE who has ever served, no matter their political opinion, ethnic background, religious conviction (or lack thereof), gender or gender identity. Anything else from a conservative is just hypocrisy.
The difference between you conservatives and the trans people who chooses to serve, they are willing to put their bodies on the line for whatever cause you think they fight for.
See. Trans people have served armies for decades, ney, centuries already. It's only in the last 60 years medical procedures and science has been able to start mapping and documenting the transgender part of the population. And what they are finding, is that there are far more transgender people or gender variances than previously thought.
Trans people serving in the military is not any problem. It's the conservatives who makes it into a problem. Using economy and morality as crutches for their prejudices based on ignorance.
So your problem is to find a moral foundation for the war crimes committed by Christian soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan in the first place before you can start talking about the morality of allowing trans people to put their lives on the line for your so called freedom and do something you obviously are not man enough to do: Fight for some failed ideal called American Exceptionalism!
Your other problem is how you can find moral ground to treat transgender veterans worse than non-transgender vets. As if their service was less worth. As if their killing of civilians are less moral than when cisgender fundies does it.
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@john83me14 What does that have to do with anything?
It's so rare that to make this a pet issue for screaming republicans with no talent just makes the whole idea of the "transgender threat" suspicious.
As if all RWers can do is to deflect from your failed economy and attacks on voter rights.
As Texas republicans have been caught admitting to rigging the 2020 election by throwing out 2.5 million votes en masse from democratic leaning areas.
As well as the fact that bad faith republicans wants to screw you, and give more tax breaks and subsidies for corporations.
Once again, denying you medicare for all, and livinhg wages.
Forcing you, the plebs to go back to under paid jobs for worse pay.
This entire anti-trans hype is a deflection and a part of republican cancel culture war against basic decency, human rights, and protecting kids,
Instead, we see that republican psychopaths willfully targets trans kids in their rabid anti-trans bully agenda.
Pretending to give a shit about women's sports, other than for creepy coaches grab their pussies and protect rapists and sex offenders., Like in the Catholic Church.
And I really don't give a shit what you think, or whether you are ever able to change that feeble mind of yours.
You are wasting your time in trying changing mine.
On that point, you might one day encounter a father of a trans daughter face to face with less understanding of your less than wholesome fetish to act as dick police than I am.
Your weenie might end up on a stretcher and your head down some sewer.
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Taking 225 000 per speech from Wall Street after being handed New York in a no contest for Senate after her husband's departure from the WH.
As opposed to "losers" like Bernie who has only been a public servant for more than 30 years after coming of age as a civil rights activist chaining himself to a black woman, clearly stating "I'm with HER", while Hillary wants that black woman and her children and grand children to be with Hillary after she labelled many of them "super predators". Look at their respective campaign slogans. I think they both reflect what the person is all about. One is all about the candidate, while the other look a bit further than just being "ready for her". Ready for WAHT?
While Bernie wants public healthcare, publicly paid college, a living wage, equal rights, equal protection under the law, speaks against police violence, he doesn't pander to a group of voters, but includes everybody!
If he had gotten fair goverage from an independent media, he would have won by a landslide.
Fact is that millions of Bernie votes have been purged by a very effetive or (ineffective( party machinery in the pockets of Wall Street money. Not to mention the media blackout to the smear campaigns against both him and his voters to the said straight out election fraud (that minorites consistently suffer under with both establishment democrats and republicans running the show.
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***** I've been dealing with romas myself lately.I'm a writer.
I know about the progressive moves that France made. But there was also a time when France regressed after Napoleon. I'm thinking about the Dreyfus case in the 1890's.
I wasn't attacking you for being French. I was attacking your government. Like I attack my own. I don't view history as only right and wrong, but grey areas and skeletons in the closet. I attack every government that has flaws. No exception!
Like I said, I love France. Some of my favorite writers are French. Some of them not very politically correct, but I don't care. I also have noticed the difference between the French, English and Irish literature. And it fascinates me.
I also recognize things that are not so great bout a culture and government a as well. Very few of my Greek friends would be offended if I bashed their government and their Golden Dawn. Very few Irish I have met would take it personally if I called their government a bunch of wankers. (Though, I am a huge fan of their president Michael D. Higgins - writer & poet by profession.)
As a traveler and writer, I think I have earned that privilege :-)
Please don't take it personal. If you want to dig up dirt on my country, I can help you with that. It doesn't offend me if there is some truths to them. And if there's something untrue, I brush it off, and correct any misconceptions.
I find it difficult to think that any European country should be exempt from a bit of criticism in their own history present day politics. I do not make excuses for the atrocities my ancestors inflicted on Europe 1200 years ago. I own up to it! And in fact, I some times smile at it. Thinking, we were a bunch of bastards ourselves! I can either be a hypocritical bastard an romanticize them and wallow in hypocrisy or own up to it?, We did that! And as I have shown you, my own government have done påersecurted Romas even up until today. So why should I not criticize other countries that are evenly bad or sometimes even worse?
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I love the way republican voters defend their precious AJ, KKK, The South as if they were the winners of the civil war, Koch bros, Donnie Draft Draft Dodger Tiny-hands, DAPL, police violence, war crimes, oil spills, corruption, the right of companies to buy politicians and the corporate take over and destroy of that shit hole country you stole.
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karl Joyce Everything inside a womans body is a part of her body, just like everything in our body is a part of her body.
And if you want to go far as a fetus not being a part of her body, consider it a freeloader.
But you seem to be for smoking, against education, stuffing your gills with fat foods and think you are intelligent, being capabable of making intelligent choices in your life.
You don't trust women to make decisions about their bodies, but insists that smoking, fat food, and being uneducated are GOOD things.
If it wasn't for unions, you would still be working 12 hours a day with no minimum wage, or safety at your workplace. You are kind of ungrateful for what the unions have done for you throughout history.
So your strawmen does not get you far.
Your only concern is how YOU and government shall dictiate what WOMEN can do with their bodies as long as you can stuff your gills with foods that makes you dumb, and propaganda that makes you a bitter, ignorant old fool.
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@finish_my_projects Just for your information:
There are 3 sexes:
Male,female, intersex (used to be called "hermaphrodites". Born with both sexual organs, or undetermined sex.
Societies, cultures and civilizations has recognized 4 genders since the dawn of tme.
From ancient Jewish texts, Native american cultures, India, the Pacific, and ancient Sumerian cultures.
Transgender people exist, and is considered a normal variance of humanity and nature.
Change my mind..
Prove that these facts are wrong.
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxdtflSSGXs&ab_channel=ThomHartmannProgram
If still in doubt with your juvenile attitudes and fantasies about committing violence against trans people and women, just let me remind you that YOU started off as FEMALE - in your mommy's tummy-
Until all that lovely testosterone flooded your brain.
Where do you think those NIPPLES comes from sparky?
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randall2020
Borders are not only arbitrary, but also man made.
So is the notion of land ownership, money, Capitalism, tribalism, religion, nationality, flags. races., killing for money, fear, hate, and division.
We live in a world where we are being told that resources are scarce, that's why rich people need to get a bigger and bigger piece of the pie.
Imagine some landlord brat not even born yet starts taking rent from you because he inherited the apartment block from his daddy. Someone like Conrad Hilton who smokes pot on flights and calls his fellow passengers peasants. Imagine you having to start paying rent of your salary to HIM because he was born, owning that house since he was born. Never worked for it, Never lived in it. But goddamn, you owe him rent for it!
Not only does he get to take your money just for you living there, he is also entitled to inherit EVERY DIME from his daddy without paying taxes for it.Because that's punishing the dead according to republicans. And is highly inconvenient for the kids who now gets billions for free without having to work for it.
Unlike you and me who has not only to work for these people, but buy their shit, pay their rent and praise them for Capitalism, we have to pay taxes from what we earn...So that the Walton's can afford another tax free yacht.
Imagine you having to pay someone else who don't even exist yet just for living on the same planet as him or her.
That's the kind of world we live in. Unless you own your own land, and your own house off course. These days, banks owns most houses, Not to live in..They already kicked out the previous occupants for late payments (as they themselves was given giant handouts from Bush jr to pay themselves bonuses with)...
Now, people are homeless, and houses are empty. The only ones who can afford them lives elsewhere and collects these houses as hoarders.
Welcome to Capitalism! Welcome to land ownership! Welcome to the "get off my lawn" reality!
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***** I never said the rest of the world was perfect. But I find it hilarious that a country that considers itself "exceptional" screws up on so ,many levels, dictating to others how they shall run their lives, and run around bragging about how great you are and how everybody else sucks. And then you expect the rest of us to grovel in the dust in awe and respect.
You call yourselves the land of the free, yet have 25% of the entire prison population You and a few other oppressive dictatorships still have the death penalty You brag about your healthcare system, but lies on 37th lace on world basis, having NO universal healthcare that covers every single citizen. Even the poor and the unemployed.
You talk about freedom of the press. You lag behind plenty of those hated "socialist" countries whom are still your allies. You have 50 million people living under poverty rate. At the same time, you reward the people who shipped out your jobs with tax breaks while cutting the benefits workers have earned up themselves.
The only thing you are number one at is military spending, wars and people in prison.
GO USA!
A country of dimwits who vote against their own interests in the name of blatant partisanship, and blind ideology.
Whenever I watch Idiocracy, I think of what you Americans are evolving into today.
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Ace Goku I have heard the "out of context" argument. Don't use it against me.. I think you should ad some substance to what is missing in this context.
It's kind of hard taking things out of context in this case, isn't it?
It's as if I went to a Pentecostal sect, got baptized "sincerely", and then come to my senses later, rethinking my submission, and then being threatened to be killed if I left the sect.
It's as there is only one way out of Islam:: by death.
So please use the "out of context" line against the people who are actullay taking this very seriously.
I'm not the one practicing death penalty for apostasy. Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia does.
These are in fact the same verses that the Atheist Muslims in the GE would use to point out the contradictions in the book they criticize.
And I still consider Ahmdiyya to be the purest and most pacifist form of practicing Islam. Them, and Sufists.
I didn't mention ISIS in this context, since I don't want to legitimize them in any way shape or form. I can criticize Islam without the aide of a few murderous thugs who don't know squat about what they claim to fight for.
Mormons was shunned by other Christians. No wonder, since their founder and leader was a convicted scam artist with the taste for women.
But that didn't stop them from committing genocide in the name of their Elohim.
Come to think of it, seems like Mormonism and Islam have something in common: Both have prophets who claimed divine authority for their acts and dogmas. Christianity, and Scientology have the same setup.
So you want to start your own religion?
Create your own scripture. Every religion needs its holy book, It's easy to create one. ...
Create or affirm your own rituals. ...
Realize that in religion, nothing is just something. ...
Remember, you are the founder, the prophet of your own religion, but not its God. ...
There's nothing wrong with borrowing. ...
Happy Birthday!
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ThaGhost44 Why do you hate the poor, and the victims of RW reactionary policies?
If you worked for Mitt Romney at one of his factories and lost your job because he thought that the Chinese were more worthy wage slaves, and you lost your home, I'm sure that you would use your bootstraps to get yourself out of the ditch, eh?
We all know how superior and creative, and freethinking the conservative brains is, don't we?
How in the hell do you enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?
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@dawaj3715 You just wrote that cops can't be trusted..
So when can they be trusted?
When they "find something" that suits the feelings of Donnie and his crime gang better?
Apparently at least not when your own boy is the target of an investigation, or when the same FBI whom runs as water carriers for Donnie can't find anything, they are all of a sudden a part of this witch hunt...
Whatever you wanted to achieve with your imbecilic post, reveals only one thing:
A pathological cognitive dissonance..
As far as being trust worthy or not, lies, scams, land theft, freeloading, destruction of nature for profit.. ethnic cleansing, genocide, slavery and violation of treaties are concerned..
Your entire DNA is infested with it. It's in your entire history. From the day Columbus set his foot ashore at San Salvador to the latest assault on Native American property with DAPL in North Dakota.
Not only FBI.
Being liars and deceivers must be in your euro-American psyche..
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Ever noticed how GOP change their rhetorics when it comes to the rich and the poor? They claim that making the rich pay more in taxes won¨t solve any problems. They want to give the rivch MORE, and the poor LESS becaue, you know, the economy. Raising taxes onm non contributory rich is "punishing success". Raising taxes, and lowering wages for the poor is "shared sacrifice" and "having skin in the game" at the same time as they are demonizing unions.
They would rather give 1 rich asshole 10 million in a handout than to give 1000 poor families 10 000 each. Why? Two reasons: for them this scenario is "redistribution of wealth" which leads to communism. The other is "trickle Down economy". They believe in this BS the same way as Christians believe in yirgin births. Raising taxes on the rich 700 billion over a few years "won't solve" any problems they say. But gutting food stamp programs for 4 billions will in their eyes miraculously solve all the problems they say.
At the sasm time, the rich think that the poor is no more worth than 2 dollars an hour, while they have no problem thinking they are more worthy and needy than the a poor Family on Food stamps. Pointing that out, and you'll be labelled a Nazi, commie, and jealous of someone elses "success" as if rich People ever got their hands dirty (unless greasing politicians is a dirty deed in itself) yet think they have EARNED their wealth sall by themselves trough their own hard labour. They view their employees as Freeloaders in it for the ride. As if THEY are doing their EMPLOYEES a favor...Anyone ever noticed this things? Capitalism is modern day feudalism, where wealth and Power is being redistributed in the hands of a few. The notion of property and wealth leads to capitalism whereas a few are living off the backs of others. Overpaid Republicans should be forced to do the same labor as Mexicans for the same pay for a year. Then they will truly understand what LABOR is...Bring Your pitchforks & torches folks" It's about time to put Wall Street, and a GOP dominated Congress in flames! WIth the assholes INSIDE IT! It's about time you took the oilspills committed by the Koch Brothers, and dump that oil right in their front yard with a note: "We think you should have back what is yours. We found this oil in Our street, and we'dn thought that you might want your property back!" And then put the oil to fire...Start occupying the GOP Town halls whenever your GOP rep comes back to lie to you. Don't give a damn if they only want parroting teabaggers as audience. Come ARMED if you have to. Show them that their careers are in deep shit! Show Them that they are on enemy territory and that you know what they are up to, and that you won't let them get away with it unpunished...
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A small minority you say? There's what 10% African-Americans in USA?
GOP seem to hate anyone who doesn't fit into the Rich, White Male Conservative Mold.
This means that GOP has pissed off Latinos, blacks, women, atheists, gays, union workers, students, veterans, potheads....So why should GOP expect their votes, or win an election ever again? By cheating like GOP has done since 1968?
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WaqasBoiiXBL "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 2:256)""Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them). (The Noble Quran, 15:2-3)""Say, 'The truth is from your Lord': Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it):......(The Noble Quran, 18:29)"
Yup!Lot's of promoting of killing "infidels" there.
As far as banging 9 year olds, was there any laws against that during those times?
Right now, there''s a ten year old girl in Paraguay who may face death because her church run government because the church considers a fetus more worth than a rape victims life. They put the father and mother in prison, and force the kid to carry forth the baby despite the fact that there's a large risk she might die.
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@swisshakilla Just answer my question instead of making every single RWer look bad and cowardice.
You make an asshat statement, and accuse others of strawmaning when being paraphrased.
Why don't you explain your statement instead of being a weasel?
" in reality it will cause more loss of life on a broader level."
Explain how that statement even make sense. Because according to you, where everybody has guns, all are safe. That's the conlusion one can draw from your asshat statement. I'm from Norway. Here, we have strict gun laws, and mostly hobby hunters can own one after having taken background checks, a psych test, and is a member of a gun club.
Very few has guns. Yet according to your own strawman, my country is less safe than yours despite the lack of mass shootings here.
And now, you repeat yourself as a bastard child of Peewee Herman, trying to weasel yourself out of your own moronic statements by trrying to put others on the spot.
If you can't, you just prove that RWers don't have the brain to stand for your own statements, and far from qualified to own anything but a water gun....
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TeMpTeK That's a bunch of horseshit. Everybody knows that megachurches are abusing the system, skimming off the top, and buys politicians. What you are advocating that non contributors should have influence in government. The Church wants others to pay for whatever draconian law that they want to impose for their own benefit. Paying taxes is not inhibiting people¨s freedom to exercise their religion. There is no taxation on prayers, and conversations with your imaginary friend, is it?
What many RW Christians are advocating is that government shall not regulate religion (christianity specific, and ban others) and let christianity have influence on government. And now you are saying that being active for a political party is about freedom of religion, and that propagating policies should go tax exempt while they are raking on money to buy politicians for? Your false equivalence that politic speech against churches are not prosecuted. Why should it?`People who speak up against Christian tyranny already pay their taxes,., People like Benny Hinn, Pat Robertson, the Crouches, the scientologists, and other scam artists who collects hundreds of thousands of dollars from gullible idiots each week is milking they system, and want more, absolute power and want others to pay for it. Their agenda is the same today as it was around the time of Nicea 325 - absolute power, and oppression of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. And to suppress knowledge and science and replace it with biblical ignorance, fear, and bigotry.
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Atomicpenguin Where have you been brainwashed to believe that your constitution was founded on conservative principles at the time?
Do you even know what conservatism means, and who was conservatives at the time? They were the same as your conservatives today: religious, nationalistic, authoritarian, and against personal freedom, and profit from the labor of others.
Jefferson, Washington, Hamilton, Franklin were all radical liberals as it gets at the time. Washington wrote about his liberal values, not his conservative values. Jefferson did n0ot like the capitalist mooches on Wall Street. He had the same distrust for bankers as teabaggers loved Wall Street when OWS was active. Jefferson would not have been a Sarah Palin style teabagger. He would have been a radical OWS member.
So no republican today have any right to lay claim of any of the founding fathers, except the only thing you have in common with them;: Conservatives today have a few things in common with the conservatives who supported mad king George: Wage slavery, and Christian tyranny.
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Tangerine Farmer It must have been. After the website got sold, and I didn't feel like writing there anymore, and wanted to write my own stories, Shabana Rehman eventually had to flee abroad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabana_Rehman_Gaarder
I went abroad because I had a writers block, and was offered a job in Belfast. 11 years later, I'm back, after been working in 5 countries, a broken engagement, and having laughs at fundies on the internet while trying to heal a bad stomach.
Religion and nationalism makes you believe in batshit crazy things. Blind faith in an ideology that is warped, is a dangerous mindset.
The first time I was in India, I met some fellas in our hotel in New Delhi who told me the legend of the tomb of Jesus. They were both from Kashmir, and was on their way home after studying law in USA.
This made me really question the legitimacy the whole of Christianity. A cult which mythology is stolen, and Romanized.
The influence from my few friends at high school and their evangelism was about to rub off, and new insights came in India less than two years later. Coming from an Atheist home, it was an interesting experience. And I learned plenty of the Bible Belt mindset. India was a complete different thing.
Having spiritual experiences in ancient Buddhist and Jain temples, long discussions late into the night about religion with hotel owners while everybody else was asleep.
These discussions was rewarding, in comparison to the snake oil that bible wankers are trying to sell.
This year, I will go to Morocco as soon as my stomach can take another journey, and next year to India for 2 months.
That's how one fights ignorance. By travelling. Reading. Challenging the beliefs one is brought up on.
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Tangerine Farmer What I find astonishing, is that I find many Muslims I have befriended to be more tolerant to differences in opinions than your average creationist from the Bible Belt. The American Taliban.
And it's the two latter I am targeting. However, taking down the insanity in religion in general, that is the main goal.
15 years ago, I wrote for a newspaper online magazine called Fundamental in one of Norway's largest commmercial newspapers. My editor was a female, Pakistani born comedian. The first one of such in Norway.
I used to slam fundies, nationalists, racists, and corrupt politicians almost on a weekly basis. And I got paid for it. Later, she got death threats from both nationalists as well as Islamic fundies due to her outspokenness.
That's because of her status as a celebrity.
I just got tons of hate mail. In which I laughed at out loud when reading them.
Now, in less than than two years, you might find me in Srinagar, visiting the tomb of Isa (the historical Jesus?), having some temple hashish or some other local specialty :-)
My dream is to retire in a ripe age on a beach in Goa someday. Corrupting western MILFs and their hot daughers...
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***** I was there 24 years ago. I might return on the 25th day on my last journey there.
I'm not making any excuses for either the Brits, Americans nor Christianity. Hell! I'm none of the above!. I'm from that cold country north of Europe who thinks that the world revolves around ski sports a few weeks every winter. I still find that more tempting than living in ice cold houses in Ireland, freezing half to death, munching bad chips, and worse curry.
But it astonishes me that one supposedly from an ancient culture with Buddhism and Hinduism as one the predominant religions of India (besides Sikhism, Jainism, Baha'i, and different versions of Islam have so little self insight?
Can you take honest criticism that bad that you have to immediately point fingers, and then claim "you have no right to judge us",,,
Of course not! And we shall also ignore the fact that Gandhi was assassinated by a Hindu Nationalist, hellbent on bad Karma!
And then all hell broke lose.
Reminds me about the aftermaths of the deaths of other do gooders in history, with their heirs carrying loads of false pride, easily hurt feelings, and absolutely no sign of introspection.
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Either you are a poor and sad liar, or you suffer from chronic Stockholm syndrome, since institutionalized racism is still being practiced against both African Americans, and native Americans.
And now, you make excuses for the continued land theft of the natives you claim to belong to.
That's really sad.
White people in America are the biggest entitlement queens of them all.
But if you can forgive them that, and continue to submit to white privilege, you have no right to talk about "illegals" as long as you are not talking about Trump supporters who think that land theft and genocide are still legit ways of claiming legal property rights. As you continue to promote the idea that brown NATIVES from across the border shouldn't get the same treatment as white immigrants from Europe, but be treated as animals and put in cages, treated worse than rapists and mass shooters.
And by saying "I'm not holding people accountable for past wrongdoings".. I presume you don't think that Israel should exist.. Since there, it's the Palestinians who has to suffer for wrong doings done to the Jews in a different continent. I mean, I hope you don't think that Palestinians deserve to have their homes taken away just because a bunch of immigrants from Russia want their property on the West Bank?
But this is the thing. Regardless of what ethnicity you actually belong to as opposed to what you claim, you need to learn this: Karma isn't fair! Karma is poetic! Karma is a bitch! And the people today carry the karma of their ancestors whether they like it or not. And as far as being at the receiving end of such karma.. is the descendants of all those white aliens who came over with their stinking feet, rotten teeth, and their heads wired in weird ideas and a large reptile brain. And they must have fried your brain too..
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@TheKickPuncher So what makes it more age inappropriate for teens to talk about their two dads compared to mommy's and daddys?
Then we can follow the book, and ban all gender talk.
Ban the words man, woman, birds, the bees, boy, girl, hetero, and all words that might lead the dirty minds of GOPers to think about sex,
Also, ban books from the library that also contains engendered language. Like mom, dad, marriage, crush,,
Because it leads to fundie adults to think about humping kids,
Who are you to police for other families what is age approporate=
Are you a parent, or just a creep who has gay copulation on your brain?
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Eric M No it isn't. Taxing people like him is good for the poor.
Cutting military spending is good for the poor.
Stop militarizing the police; Stop installing psychos stuffing their gills with steroids, coffee and donuts is good for the poor.
Raising the minimum wage is good for the working poor.
Give people education is good for the poor.
Give people healthcare is good for the poor.
Building impoverished areas, creating a community and not a slum is good for the poor.
Holding banks accountable, and stopping their foreclosures of people's homes is good for the poor.
Stop outsourcing jobs to China, India and Bangladesh is good for the poor.¨
Stopping TPP is good for the poor.
Getting money out of politics is good for the poor.
That is until they start acting like adults and start giving their workers the same rights as the American worker had in the 50's, the unions where strong, and BOTH parties supporting the unions.
85 people alone owns as much as the poorest half owns combined.
The Waltons, the Kochs, the Hiltons are people living off as leeches on other people's poverty and need for a job. And they benefit from deregulation that republicans are pushing at the same time as the same republicans want to deny their workers healthcare, a living wage, paid vacation, and maternity leave because that would break the backs of those poor billionaires.
Want to know the names of all the major corporations that doesn't pay a dime in taxes? Want to know what kind of politicians they are lobbying?
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You are right.
The oil companies and their criminal tools, the Sheriff's dept. should get the hell off the private burial grounds belonging to the Sioux nation by treaty.
But then again, white people have never cared about treaties if those treaties are getting in the way of their lust for riches (mostly on other people's expense)...
These people have been living there for thousands of years. The oil company is more alien to the land than a million immigrants swarming over the border from Mexico.
Native Americans didn't have the resistance against alcohol like Europeans. Which was exploited by white illegal aliens who used the army to get access to Sioux land to dig for gold.
If you think that criminals like the oil company you support and the criminal bankers who wrecked the economy from people they use violence against (for protecting their water, while you call them liars and leeches), you are either a paid troll or just a disgusting human being with no respect for other people's graves.
What you have done to the Native Americans is not an ounce better than what Adolf did to the Jews and Gypsies in Europe.
And here you are, like a fucking Nazi criminal demanding respect for illegal aliens coming to another man's land to destroy it for profit.
Why didn't the Jews respect the German troops more?
Why don't you respect the people whose culture and ideology is far superior to your ideology of takers, thieves and murderers?
To throw you teabagger a bone, I'm sure you are deliriously happy about the Talybundy's being acquitted for conspiracy and a range of other charges.
I'm sure you think that the Bundy gang was in their rights while the people being brutalized and thrown in jail for days and charged without having their rights read to them, or being bitten by dogs are the real criminals..
You whitey's owe them far more than food stamps. You owe them to get the fuck out of their land and stop vandalizing their property and stand accountable in front of humanity and history in the way you destroy this planet for cash.
Nothing else matters to you than money. And you stinkers think that all the wealth in the world belongs to you by default. If you're so fucking fond of oil companies vandalizing graves, why don't you let them do it on the grave of your own mother's worm feast of a corpse? It's not like that spot or her rotting flesh has any importance?
If you want shit, get it properly and legally. Don't be thieves and then claim property rights over stolen goods afterwards.
Start taking responsibility for your own actions, your own life, your own lifestyle and how that impacts this planet. If you want something, PAY FOR IT!!
As far as I'm concerned, every single immigrant from Europe, Asia or Africa are legally living on stolen land. Because old treaties were broken....But then again, you don't give a shit about law and order if you can just take it anyway like the race of thieves and psycho killers you are. The poverty of the native Americans are your fault. Your people butchered their main source of income, replacing it with cattle from Europe. And now you expect them to sit still and watch what is worse than some "illegal alien" from south of the borders come and destroy their family graves to build an oil pipeline way too close to the river. Besides, they never got the permits from the army core. They are in fact breaking the law with the local, corrupt police dept. in their pockets, getting their marching orders from a deeply corrupt republican governor...
You are also obviously supporting the cops breaking the law and arresting hundreds of unarmed water protectors in their own homes under false charges and not reading them their rights. In other words, you're support criminals who are as "law abiding citizen" than Al Capone.
And if you should get your will and have the rest those property owners killed or removed for oil and their prophecy be fulfilled with a disastrous oil spill right in Missouri River, you will be judged by your own grand kids who might not have the world that you take for granted, and expect others to sacrifice for, just because you are as addicted to oil as Rush Limbaugh is to fat food and opiates.
But then again, you RWers never seizes to amaze me with your stupidity, self righteousness and white privilege and false sense of justice, law & order.
P.S! Don't get kids! You are about to fuck up their future because you think that a Sioux burial ground is the private property of an oil company not remotely related to the land or its history. They are going to hate you and anyone who looks and thinks like you for it.
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PolakFury Friends of yours?
https://libcom.org/library/rebirth-radical-nationalism-welcome-back-30%E2%80%99s
Poland was the most split country where your "nobles" chose your monarchs from personal interest, and sold out to the French, Austrians, Russians and the Prussians. Any dick could halt any decision by the majority just by standing up and claim "I object". And then they were all back to the starting point. Reminds me a bit about the tactics used by GOP the last 6 years in USA.
Even though slavery was banned in the 14th century, it was replaced by serfdom that lasted until the 18th century.
As much as Poland claims great pride with both Jan Kazimir and other kings, today's droves of nationalists whose whole ideology is based in tribalism and hatred of "the other" I am not impressed. Taking credit for what monarchs did hundreds of years ago is not something we are entitled to do. Unless we are willing to take the heat for the crimes committed by our ancestors.
Your nationalism is like the teabagger nationalism in USA, or EDL in England, or Sverigedemokraterna" in Sweden, or Russian nationalists for that matter the same stench of what I thought we rid ourselves from after 1945....
And I couldn't give a rats arse about the Polish gold diggers who went to America. They STILL migrated to the scene of a crime , a set table after genocide was fulfilled. Come to think of it, I have kin myself who did the same 100 years ago. Damn!
And as for you personally, I have no respect for you, nor your politics, nor the fringe sources you deliver as objective. You're coloured by your own flag. Your own symbols of self proclaimed greatness. And when refugees show up at the door of the Catholic country of Poland, you say, "sorry, we're full". You don't mind Polacks migrating to a country founded on slavery and genocide, but cry like bitches when people fleeing wars, famine, persecution, and poverty, you condemn them automatically as freeloading parasites.
Just what Jesus would have done, eh? I can clearly envision that the same "Christian" nation would say the same thing to the dark skinned Palestinian Jew to take a hike too if his mother showed up, heavily pregnant.
So..Again! I am NOT impressed!
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Ōkami-san They changed the Pledge of Allegiance in the 50's, didn't they?
"We are a nation under God"... if I remember correctly?
I'd like to see you list these best schools and their rankings, and what religious delusions they subscribe to. I was not very impressed by the American school system as a senior in Kansas 25 years ago.
My god is the state you say? Hmm. I didn't know that I celebrated the birth of State every Christmas. But you apparently do that every 4th of July, unless you don't give a flying fuck about nationalism either. You choose your government, don¨t you? Isn't the Founding Fathers of your State almost recognized as saints?
My pope was Bush and Cheney you say? I didn't realize I had such blind faith in every decision the decision maker did.
P.S. Your American flag IS made in China. Your flag factory owners thought you Americans were too greedy, and preferred cheap sweatshop labor to do it in commie China instead.
Talk about theft. That's something that bankers do, and OWS protested against. But did they get any positive coverage from the corporate media who were all over themselves in love with the Freedom-loving teabaggers who wants more bibles, guns and capitalism in society?
Oh, no.
Because the #1 religion in USA is capitalism.
That's right! Capitalism!
Banks are churches. Bankers are priests. Wealth is heaven. Poverty is hell. Rich people are saints. Poor people are sinners. Commodities are blessings. MONEY IS GOD
And if you don't subscribe to the American version of Calvinism, and are different, you're doomed and should not be considered a citizen, or even legal.
P.S. Obama is a corporatist. Bought and paid for by Wall Street.
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Ōkami-san You know when you live in a monocultural world when you can find Starbucks and McDonald's in Tibet, Kenya and Brazil...
You say you want "less government" and not "more government"...
Another deal. Your corporations owns your government. The Koch brothers owns the entire republican party of lunatics. The only reason why you have had opportunity are progressive policies based on common welfare, not a couple of bootstraps and the generosity of some corporate sugar daddies.
What you have in USA today, is maximum freedom for the Kochs and Wall Street, while your own civil rights are shrinking.
And on top of that, you have religious zealots who insists that George Washington and the rest were Jesus freaks who sought a government where narrow Christian dogmas shall legislate morality.
You do not have a real democracy anymore run by the people for the people. If you did, GOP would have been in prison since Bush/Cheney for selling out the American people for war, and profit...And they would have been handed over to Hague.
IF you had a real democracy, BP would have gotten the corporate death penalty and the CEOs also in prison.
You don't get freedom by giving corporations a blank check to screw things up and not take responsibility for it. You don't get freedom when poverty and disenfranchisement and criminalisation to realize your full potential.
Public healthcare. Public education. Full stomach. Safe kids in their own homes. People having a living wage. People having a safe job, and rights on the workplace. You don't have freedom when you are being fired for talking about unions in a workplace. (I have worked for American corporations who have fired people for mentioning a union in both Ireland and Greece).
A justice dept. not steeped in old fashion Fascism where the rich go free, and a poor sucker from a poor neighbourhood is being used for years as cheap labour in a private prison for a bag of weed.
You don't have freedom when kids go to jail for pot, while banks like HSBC hardly get a slap on the wrist for white washing billions of drug money AND "terror money"....
Besides. If you can choose your own government, you can also throw it. Your government is owned by corporations. Why? Because "freedom"....
I suggest you look up ALEC, where your corporations are making their own laws, and install a mindless puppet in office to sign it.
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Ōkami-san Oslo is very multicultural.
"No go zones" in England? Seriously? Never heard of them. And I lived in England myself. Don't buy into the cheap lies from propagandists on FOX.
You talk about immigration. IF you're an American, your entire country is built on immigrants. And the minorities you are so busy demonizing, well...at least African Americans built entire fortunes in the South on their whipped backs.
In the meantime, Christian Europeans could have time to commit auto-genocide. So don't talk about "welfare ghettos" as if your minorites are freeloaders and rich Europeans have built their entire fortunes by their two empty hands. Remember that European Americans whom are against immigration of the brown people they have bombed, have little mora ground to whine about said immigration. Specially when you have more than 150 military basis around the world, have been involved with at least 10 major wars since 1776, and have dropped enough bombs to measure up to the rest of the world combined the last 50 years. If you prioritized the Commons instead of Pentagon, and subsidised oil magnats, and started repeating the success of FDR, I think yoü'll be alright.
Violence and crime is not linked to ethnicity, but to poverty. And when you have a country where 1% owns more than half the country, and 90% of the bottom owns less than 1% and you have 50 million under the poverty line, something has got to give. It seems that your "American Revolution" is an ongoing process unless you want to drown yourself in a dystopian society described by contemporary writers with good fantasy.
In UAE they live fat off their oil have cheap slave labour from Pakistan and Bangladesh, and have no human or democratic rights.¨
As long as we keep our oil fortune away from politicians who wants to sell it cheap to foreign interests, and spend it on tax breaks to the rich, we'll be fine We have more than half a trillion dollars in an oil fund established by our social democratic government. It comes from prioritizing the Commons ahead of Capitalism and the profits of a few. We still have our millionaires and billionaires. And they whine just as much as yours.
Now, if you'll excuse me. I'm watching Office Space.
http://www.swefilmer.com/office-space-1999/office-space-1999-video_80f587d2c.html
Gives me "happy memories" from working ten years abroad for multinational IT companies in Ireland. Northern Ireland, England, Malta and Greece.
Now, I'm out of it. I'm not in the rat race anymore for peanuts and bananas....
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Ōkami-san Norway has become a multicultural society the last 40 years.
And no. We do NOT have "no go-zones" nor do we have polar beers roaming the streets.
No. We do not invade other countries without reason...without being told to first by "Big Brother" USA. We partook in Yugoslavia (I was there), we participated in Afghanistan after crusader Bush gave us his "weighty reasons". We sent a non-combat force to Iraq, "helping" building up a country that US bombs have destroyed.
So we just buy into OTHER countries phony reasons to go to war.
I think most of us can read and write. But I am concerned about the cognitive abilities of those who think they are for freedom when they get their poker, their segway's and criminalized beggars from Romania and junkies without an income.
"You want to know what the American dream is? Getting on disability and playing video games while watching pop culture on your smart phone."
Apparently the ambitions have dropped a bit since the jobs started disappearing to China where they produce their digital gadgets that their government can spy on them with.
You are right. And I indicated that. Private interests have taken over your government on all levels, and you have an insane religious right to have a government to legislate morality based on bronze age myths and young earth creationism.
I went to high school in Kansas 25 years ago. As much as I found several things disturbing in the one whore village I went to school in, I don't think they have reached the level of insanity I see and hear about today.
If you are concerned about the illiterate freeloaders, you should take a look at the republican states. They give the least to DC, and takes the most. We can assert that conservative states live on the backs on liberal states.
The "golddiggers from Mexico" thing sounds like a jingo to dehumanize poor people who are seeking a better future for themselves like your own ancestors did. But the "golddiggers" today don't get free land like your own ancestors did when the process of auto-genocide was in full swing in the 1800s.
My own countrymen are not the hardest working people I know. Effective, perhaps yes, in comparison to the Irish and the Greeks at least (I have lived and worked both places).
And whatever service job there is, Swedes are taking more and more over that market. To me, it seems like many of my countrymen have an aversion of serving others.
We have an oil fund that is growing by the minute. Our government have done some seedy investments (red gambling on stocks and bonds with Wall Street).. But that blood money is going to the citizens unless our RW government sells out all assets on the name of the "free market"..
Our RW government has given tax cuts to millionaires, billionaires and their heirs, and want the partially disabled to start working and get taxed to cover those tax cuts. We have gotten ourselves a government that wants to imitate Reaganomics.
We have some nationalists who think that all problems are caused by poor people from countries USA has been to war with, and think that refugees from those wars are all freeloaders coming to dig into the Norwegian (White privilege) of getting a govt. check and free healthcare on our dime. They don't see causations. Sometimes I wonder if the know what even correlations mean.
Well... It certainly seems that the "free market" is dictating your health care policies. A gift that GWB gave them in 2001. Corporations have bought your government to keep you in line and have cheap, obedient and expendable workers. And they give you cheap gadgets, cheap entertainment and junk food to go.
When I read American commentators here, or some RW blog, I immediately come to think of both Idocracy, 1984 and Hunger Games at the same time.
Should I show you my empathy, or should I let myself be entertained when you vote yourself and your democracy out of existence?
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Douglas Smith And how is the living standard in general? Currency is currency. And what makes you think that the ones who controls the system are also gambling on currency? Currency have little to do with the overall quality of system your living under in this case
How about coughing up some real numbers and facts that USA is better than UK in ever sense. Both economically and socially as well as educational, and health wise.
I'm dying to see you prove that your beloved Bush made USA a better place to live for not only the rich, but also the poor. I would love to see some numbers on how your "freemarket" system are superior to that of UK, Norway, Sweden, Iceland, Denmark and Finland.
I beg you. Show us your superiority.
P.S. I have lived in both USA, England, Northern Ireland, Ireland, Malta, Spain, and Greece for references in what the actual reality is.
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Douglas Smith Are USA doing great in comparison to Norway? Sweden? Denmark? Iceland? Finland? Germany? France? Britain? Since when?
Put it like this, Greece is fucked. I lived there. Why? Norton Antivirus had setup up shop there due to excellent tax policies, and extremely low wages, even for IT people.
USA is screwed, and it was all Neocon, trickle down reaganomics who led you down the drain. All countries directly or indirectly are suffering, are those countries that has emulated the "free market" religion the closest. Another example is Ireland. I have lived there too. Three years in Belfast, which has UK based policies, and two years in Ireland, where you pay little or no taxes, and have a disastrous welfare state. Those two countries are the ones struggling the most.
It's the RW policies that led to this trend. And social unrest is the result. Old prejudices come up to the surface, and the people are blaming each other rather than look at what really caused this mess.
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Douglas Smith Your slippery slope argument. Starting tow whine about being called a racist when you are clearly making talking points as if they were spoon fed to you by some radio host. Besides, I was not the one bringing up racism here. That was you.
And as far as socialism vs, capitalism goes, no society is pure socialist, or pure capitalist.
And the most socialist countries in Europe, Scandinavia is still doing GREAT despite the fact that Norway has gotten a RW government who wants to emulate many GOP policies.
That government will not last past 2017.
How do I know? I live in Europe. The last 10 years, I have worked in 5 different European countries. And I am Norwegian by birth, with 1 year as an exchange student to Kansas.
So, I think I know a little bit more than you how the economies in the different countries are in comparison than you, and the cultural differences between the countries I have lived and worked in.
And to be blunt: your country is fucked. And the republicans carry most of the responsibility, and many democrats who were either too spineless or too corrupted to play the partisan card when it was needed. How did that happen? I can take an educated guess that your educational system, as well as blind faith in the "invisible hand of the free market", cheap entertainment, and food that makes your brains shrink, and bodies grow. I can add religion into the equation as well.
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So you think that all "private money" has been earned through hard core labor? In way, you are right. Large fortunes are created by some, and someone else is reaping the benefits: The CEOs, stock holders, and the billionair heirs like the Waltons, and the Kochs. And if you are against having a proper infrastucture because you think it's more important that more wealth is being redistributed from the worker to the owner, and o infrastructure, you have no concept of economy, nor are you in favor of USA as a country of commons, but in favor of an old fashion style feudal society with your employer as your feudal lord and you will live in poverty, and over worked. Good luck in implementing the Chines style Capitalist sweat shop system in USA...
In if you are against SOCIAL JUSTICE, then you must hate baby Jesus...Who preached ONLY about social justice, and not much else...
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***** Government is government.
And it seems that you want Big Government on a local level, and a federal government you can drown in the bath tub.
It seems that your "local government" doesn't mean shit anyway. "Libertarians" have bought up your government, making it impossible for you to deny oil companies to frack in your neighbourhood if they want to. And you don't have any say. Why?
Because you've been keeping voting the wrong party for the last 30 years.
And as far as federal government goes, there are a few universal things that the federal government should be involved in. That is the common wealfare.
Giving private corporations free hands to dictate policies while cutting essential services like healthcare, education. communication, infrastructure, justice dept. should be strengthened. And to ensure FAIRNESS as well as securing the common welfare.
Republicans and "libertarians" don't seem to give a shit about those things.
Just a few questions. What is the "libertarian" plan for people who can't access healthcare due to republican governors refusal to sign ACA and get sick?
Die quickly?
When a giant oil company causes giant oil spills, killing wildlife, destroying the livelihood for local people, as well as costing human lives, who shall clean up that mess?
And more importantly, who should PAY for the cleanup, and who should go to prison? And who should enforce the laws making it illegal for oil companies to destroy nature and lives for profit if not a federal government?
Keep talking "libertarian" talking points. You're only doing the Koch brothers a wasted service.
Whatever "libertarianism" you are advocating, it has never worked, and will never work with the existing infrastructure we have today. The only way for your system to work if we had a disaster, leaving mankind decimated, without any central government, and all are fending for themselves.
Ayn Rand's books are fiction.
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KING JACOB Are you trying to achieve anything here?
If so, why are you wasting your time with useless bible quotes and fire and brimstone foolishness?
If that be, your arrogance will be your downfall. If you're such a "Christian" as you are so desperately are trying to perceive yourself as, why don't you start acting like one instead of quoting meaningless bible bullshit from the Jewish Torah? What does a Hebrew text have anything to do if you claim to be Christian? Aren't you supposed to PRACTICE what your baby Jesus both practiced and preached instead of bullshitting people thinking you'll gain anything by mincing completely irrelevant details to your alleged salvation? I mean, does your salvation depend upon whether you can convince people with more knowledge than you about ALL the major world religions, and not only selected parts of your own?
If you are not able to grasp these words, and take them deeply into your consideration as a bible freak using the Jewish bible to prove a point (point is, you have no independent ideas and thoughts of your own), I think we have witness here tonight not only how dangerous religion is, but also how incredibly stupefying religion is
Insisting that ones polytheism is monotheism when worshiping 3 entities shows us how far religious brainwashing can go, while also refusing that you are worshiping three gods since you split one entity into 3 autonomy and conciseness. Hence, you are a polytheist.
Why are your thinking (if one can call it that) that so many of your fellow blind faith fellows insisting also that Jesus was not only "the son of God" (another episode of Hercules), but also Yahweh himself. This means that for many, your Jesus was not only the son of Yahweh, but his own father. And he is also the "Holy Spirit" (how did Yahweh dispatch this "Holy Spirit"?). This means that your god departed from himself into a shadow figure to go and have his way with a 12 year old virgin (statutory rape anyone?), to give birth to himself. And still he managed to call to himself at the cross "father, why have you forsaken me"? In other words, another Christian fallacy from the ones insisting that believing in the Trinity is essential for Christianity to have any worth.
400 years ago, there was heretical to question the poor rationale behind the Trinity. People ended up on the stakes for questioning the poor math skills of the orthodoxy you have had your mind infested with.
I hope I do not have to repeat myself. But you give clear indications that you do not comprehend the words you are reading. You are also giving a clear indication that you lack the basic understanding behind reasoning, and feel naked and unprotected if you do not have the cloak of religious delusions to pack you in with and some meaningless quotes that only makes you even more pathetic defending your lack of reason and logic....
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***** Which encyclopedia is defining the lack of belief in a god as a religion?
Does Atheism have a set of rules, and promises for salvation if one worship Atheism?
Atheism is as much a religion as not collecting stamps is a hobby.
On the history note, and the theological note:
Did you know that the Romans considered the early Christians of being Atheists since they didn't regard or respect the polytheistic pagan gods, but only one, their own from some desert in the Middle East?
But this is the kicker. Christians claim to believe in one god, and one god only, but worship a human being of being the spawn of this monotheistic god. In other words, your Christian god is as monotheistic as Zeus. They have both one thing in common: They both had a son! Sounds a bit like Bonanza, doesn't it?
Oh, and then you have the 3rd wheel on the wagon: the all shadowy "Holy Ghost". This makes 3 gods. Yet still Christians in their "advanced" math logic, 3=1. Is your god a monotheistic god, or a Kinder Surprise?
P.S. Studied philosophy and comparative religion after I got out of the army (shooting at Serbs)....
What's your credentials?
A few bible study groups in your church because you got the hots for the frigid choir singer?
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Thing is, when DNC won't even allow a proper primary, and the voters are merely a small sample of the entire voter base, it looks bleak for both.
Thing is, Thom Hartman refuses to acknowledge that, as well as all his other weakneses.
Like when he abaonded his original promise to only go for one term, and then changes his mind as 81, the same age my father passed, pluss all the other broken promises, and his foolish loyalty to the Zionist/Fascist project, we can safely say that he is to be as much trusted as any other American deal breaker in history.
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@GoldenHairAngel Hahaha!
That's funny.
So you still think you can tell the difference, and who's got the right to do property damage, and forced kidnapping.
The spawn of land grabbers, slave holders, and genocidal gold diggers is trying to differentiate between himself and those homes and families he seeks to ruin..
You have a criminal in the WH, and at two rapists in SCOTUS..
Please talk to us about "law & order".. And who that constitution you never cared about applies to..
Melania Trump qualifies as an "illegal alien" since she never got full working permit.
By your own standards, ICE should use a battering ram in the WH to drag her out, and separated from her spoilt anchor baby who would have to face the same cages down in Arizona. The same goes for her tax evading husband who dodged the draft, and has obstructed justice about a dozen times.
But it's not her, her bitch husband, his mobster connections or anyone with their complexion you are talking about, is it?
Is there any difference between the pillaging of a pirate and the complete destruction of entire countries like Alexander the Great, or Eurotrash gold diggers in the New World?
You have a regime who kidnaps kids from their parents, and leave those kids to rot with no protection or care.
And here we have you, talking about using battering rams on homes to people you don't like as if you gave a shit about "the law"..
You are a funny dude despite being such an insane wanker and hypocrite.
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***** It seems that your feelings are still sore since you can't seem to move along from the fact that you are a hypocrite that we shall just take the bullying of Billlo and cheer together with you when he threatens ex. co workers, female coworkers, women and everyone who calls him out on his garbage.
Again you must be hallucinating about how others like to hurt your feelings and how your feelings must be protected.
I?f you din't give a flying fuck about Billo, you wouldn't be all up in arms about him.
And now you are trying to make your defense of liars into something inconsequential when that has been the issue all along.
Another thing I have noticed about RWers. You LOVE to hurt others, but whine when you're getting your treatment back. And I don't think you care about other people as much as you care about NOT being called out on your support for assholes, and how that somehow makes your feelings hurt while insisting on living in ignorance.
Instead of looking at the clips, you dug yourself deeper i the whole, and thinks that every liberal are out to get you, and that we are all bully victims with anger issues as if your RWers have your mental stability in order.
If my low opinion of you didn't mean anything to you, you would have clicked the links, had a chuckles, ignored my attacks, and stuck to the point, not giving anything away.
But instead you are wasting a hell of a lot of energy avoiding to have a small peak, and drone on about how conservatives are being bullied by Liberals.
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***** So where did you get this from?
The Oracle of Delphi?
First of all, you whine about bullying for a few links you don't want to open
For someone bitching about lack of empathy, you have apparently very little insight about this concept.
"You're a bully and sadist. And I make assumptions, stating them as facts based on how you think you are bullied for being shown how liberals and conservatives are being held to different standard.
Apparently the only way to "endear" you is to laugh at the same lies as you, and be outraged at the same lies you get outraged over.
I called you out. And ever since, you have been doing nothing but crying about how your feelings are getting hurt, and how hurtful and harmful we liberals are against you, while you claim that we should just deal with Billo¨s lies and shut up about it.
Instead of answering my questions, you get offensive, and accuse others of sadism, while apparently mockingly "so we have established that you were bullied at school angry at a father figure, and hence a sadist (my emphasis), it seems that you are getting dizzy from spinning on your chair too much, or having an early start on the booze.
But I'm just speculating. You as a Freud Jr. you plainly established your farts and expect us to say they smell of roses and deep insight in human nature. And I applaud you for your deep knowledge in human nature, and a clear EMPATHY with the people you on your free time give free therapy analysis on Youtube on a video that is about a liar you apparently have a deep admiration for.
I mean, only Scientologists act this way when someone threads on their holier than holy...
Stay classy Freud, Your closest must be proud of you!
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***** The truth is that you enjoy liars who enjoy smearing other people
And now you seem al butt hurt because you just dragged yourself through the same gutter as gutter snipe Billo has been wallowing in for years.
Seems that you don't care ab out journalism or truth If you enjoyed TRUTH, you wouldn't find Billo's extremism and lies entertaining.
You're also a hypocrite. You demonize Brian Williams for something you praise Billo for, and expect everyone else deal with Billo's sociopathy.
To me, it looks lie you are projecting your own sadism, and certainly have masochistic tendencies since you seem to enjoy being beaten over the head with your own bullshit!
And don't give me any impression that you give a flying fucking about REAL human beings, facts , decency or journalism. Apparently you couldn't care less about black kids being killed by white cops. You certainly don't care about the poor, and the downtrodden. Oh no All you care about is forcing people to leave Billo alone and let him walk all over people. Because you find Billo's sadism "enjoyable"
You only care about how you can play the victim card, accusing others for your sadistic,lying piece if shit nature.¨
You should learn from your parent's mistake, and start using condoms. The world doesn't need your DNA in the future gene pool.
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***** Then I apologize. I thought our low opinions of the RW vitriol didn't mean anything to you. I thought our opinions meant nothing. I thought since RWers could dish it out, you could also take it. But you seem to be more wounded from words than from bullets in a war started by GOP somewhere.
I also apologize for thinking you would consider it OK for calling an army serviceman a weasel on air.
I am glad that you will condemn Billo for accusing an Iraq war veteran for being "anti-military" for wanting to keep fellow female servicemen safe from sexual harassment.
I also apologize for believing that conservatives stood for personal responsibility, "law & order", and how conservatives pushes for laws, funneling kids into the private prison industry with draconian laws, and militarized police.
I also apologize for thinking that you would ever side with police who shoots kids with toy guns and watch him die afterwards while his sister is handcuffed, in the police car.
http://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2015/02/city_of_cleveland_responds_to.html
Why is it OK for Billo to lie and then threaten people who calls him out on it, and then playing the victim, while you think that Brian Williams should be punished? Who's had the most credibility as a journalist between those two the last 30 years?
The slave owners were conservatives. They were rich, white conservatives who wanted to uphold the social status to enrich themselves on other people's backs, and call it "self made". Cliven Bundy who had an armed standoff with the federal government, threatening to use the women and kids on the ranch as human shields in case of a shootout. He also thought that African Americans had it better as slaves working for the white man. Do you think he is a flaming liberal?
Slavery and social control based on economical and social status has always been a conservative dogma.
Do you stand for the poor, the sick, and the persecuted?
Do you believe that Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, Jews, Atheists, LGBTs, feminists, should have the same privileges and space in public and government as Christianity has, and that Christians want to impose?
Did you side with Wall Street or OWS a few years ago?
I side with the victims. I'm kinda corky that way.
People who side with perpetual liars and chickenhawks have earned my contempt.
But please proceed playing the victim card if that makes you feel better.
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Oh, the paradox. RWers who claim to be for "small government" is in favor of life inprisonment for people who grow the exact same PLANT as Thomas Jefferson & George Washington grew.
Criminalizing people for growin the same plant as your "beloved" Constitution was written on.
Here's some numbers, and then you can TRY to explain WHY this man deserves to be inprisoned, and not Big Pharma, Big Alcohol, and Big Tobacco by showing the annual death toll from these legal drugs compared to Marijuana:
Alcohol: 1,8 million deaths.
Tobacco: 4,9 millioner
Pharmaceuticals: 3,9 millioner
Cannabis: 0
Not to mention all the deaths directly contributed by Nixons War on drugs, and all the money wasted by government to intrude in ones private lives, and inner freedom.
Why should it be illegal to grow a plant some places where it's legal in other places in the same country?
I must remind you that the Marijuana prohibition was imposed by the commissioner for alcohol prohibition - Harry Anslinger, a descendant and a puritan racist at heart from Norwegian immigrants who came to the country long after the Constitution was written, and people were obliged to grow hemp themselves.
Why do you RWers hate the Constitution and the ideology that your beloved founding fathers praised so much?
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Nice2787 Sign #7 that you are a Christian fundie and a hypocrite:
Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the male first-born babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" – including women, children, and trees.
Not to forget terrorist attacks in abortion clinics, hate crimes against LGBT community, illegal wars, colonization, pandering to brutal dictators, unleashing religious extremists, and wars that goes back to the Crusades in 1099.
By attacking Islam, you are attacking the core mythology that Mohammed took his entire divine authority from: Christianity and Judaism.
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@TheCentristChad For some strange reason, you have bought into the RW lie that kids are being operated on.
Besides, Blaire White looks like she started quite young.
In other words, stay the fuck out iof other families business.
Because I don't think you have any right to dictate anyone's medical freedoms and decisions.
And now, you are basically trying to claim that kids are being forced to do something they do not want, and that hormone replacement therapy is irreversible. Which it is
If anyone are being operated on under 18, with both top and bottom surgery, and that this is imposed by adults on kids, please enlighten us.
Show us a case study where this is the norm.
If Blaire White wants to deny other transgender people the same as she takes for granted, it's because she's full of shit, and most likely a sell out.
Like Candace Owens in a different way. She is selling out her black community.
Blaire White sells out her own trans community.
One does not have to be a wizard or psychic, or deep into this shit to see that.
And as far as Matt Walsh is concerned, he's got creeper energy all over. With a reading level not above 9th grade.
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Craig X It's because the only jobs around are low paying jobs. People has two jobs because they have to pay both rent, and healthcare. Not because they want to save up for a new yacht! Something one of your republican representatives purchased for himself after giving himself a tax break amounting to the price of a yacht.
If you think that your wages has increased with inflation, and with the profits that your corporate owners take from your hand every single day, you are a sucker for oligarchs and greedy landlords, you are being stooged. If you think that millenials have better economic foundation today compared to the Boomers, you need to read some statistics and history.
If you think you, or any republican knows a damn thing about "the economy" outside of counting numbers at the end of your profit sheet, I have a yuuuge laughter coming your direction.
If you still think that cutting government income in the form of tax breaks pays for themselves through "trickle down economy", you might be a republican who needs his head checked.
If you think that spending tax dollars on bombs instead of healthcare and education, because the latter is "socialism", you must be a brainwashed republican with misdirected priorities.
Hearing republicans talk about the "economy" is like listening to Donnie Draft Dodgers war stories during 'Nam..
Or a "pro-lifer" rant about abortion as he blows up a PP clinic.
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Christians displaying how strongly their faith is, and are not intimidated by Atheist kids.
Their Jesus is PROUD of them over how they staunchly defended his Name against this little devil child who denies His Love for All and how he died for the sins of this wicked little child (exceptions may apply: atheists, liberals, socialists, commies, gays, abortionists, pasifists, people who are against guns,people who are against public prayer in school, foreigners,catholics who likes the present pope, druggies, hippies, muslims, hindus, buddhists.etc....)
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@giggitygoo7813 Republican Tim Nolan, chairman of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in Kentucky, pled guilty to child sex trafficking and on February 11, 2018 he was sentenced to serve 20 years in prison.
Republican state Senator Ralph Shortey was indicted on four counts of human trafficking and child pornography. In November 2017, he pleaded guilty to one count of child sex trafficking in exchange for the dropping of the other charges.
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
Republican Senator Strom Thurmond, a notable racist, had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
There's yoiur group of GOP pedophile groomers.
Those of you who are most obsessed with trans kids to make their lives more misreable while ending age of consent for child brides in Tennessee in the name of religion, that's grooming.
Telling dirt bags like you that LGTQ people have the right to life, liberty, and privacy is not grooming.
Whatever your weird fetish fantasies you have with furries, Mickey and Pluto, and fake math book controversies should not dictate the lives or freedoms of others.
Keep them to yourself and your own family of weirdos who hates education and inclusion.
Not to mention the fact that your hypocrsy reeks worse than your grandmothers' diapers.
And stop pretending you give a damn about the safety and protection of kids.
You afraid that your kid might be gay, and get confused when he sees Maddie Cawthorn paarying it up in women's lingerie?
Whatta you wanna do then?
Kick your gay or trans kid out of the house because you're a psycho bully?
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Brian Mason I'm just referring to the source that everybody either claims to own, or condemns.
Ever read the Q'uran before?
Let's have a contest based on pure unbias fundaments:
I'm an Atheist. I have read both the bible and the Q'uran. All in all, no where does the bible promote religious tolerance, women's rights, or science.
The Q'uran is a bit different matter. This despite the fact that Mohammed borrowed ALL of his "divine authority" based on Christianity and Judaism. He claims as intimate knowledge of the Angel Gabriel as Paul claims of such to Jesus.
Google: "Ilm - Knowledge in Islam".
Also "no compulsion in religion"
Easy task.
But I'll help you on your way, and give you one direct quote from the Q'uran that these Muslims claim to defend by killing people who use their brains to think for themselves instead of stuffing their heads with human garbage packet in a religious context.
"Say, 'The truth is from your Lord': Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it):......(The Noble Quran, 18:29)"
As far as the violent parts, they are much equally repulsing, and sort of bleaks the alleged noble intentions of the ideologies with the same source.
When people refer to "kill the infidels, the Jews and -Christians where ever you can find them", and think that this is universal and goes for all time, they are misinformed. From what I gather from the text is that Mohammed was referring to specific people who fought against him, and were Christians and Jews. It would be quite dumb of him to go on a religious war against the same dogmas that made HIS religious foundations.
Another part, Mohammed was human. With human weaknesses. Despite the notion of Muslims who think he was infallible and the most perfect human ever lived. If one are human, one are prone to human weaknesses. That's a fallacy that all religious people make. They also regard Jesus as one of the most important prophets in Islam.
Christians claim Jesus is god, and take offence when people don't. Even from a religion that still regards him as a prophet. Christians still feels that it's an attack on their faith if someone doesn't buy their bile.
There's plenty to be said about conquerors who sailed under both Christianity and Islam. Not much can be said to be good.
A few rulers and societies did have some sort of success. Not so much in Europe, as in Moorish Spain. Where both Christians, Jews, and Muslims lived side by side, and the university in Cordoba promoted science. Something that obviously posed a threat to Christians in Rome who sought complete religious dictatorship in every aspect of ones lives.
P.S. the weakness in every religion is when an alleged omnipotent divine power need people to commit violence to get "his" point across instead of showing up himself.
P.P.S. Jesus was NOT a dead Jew on a stick. He became an old dead Jew and Buddhist pot head in Srinagar, India 50 years after the alleged crucifixion.
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+bohemianwriter1
"The last person laughing will be Donald Trump, when you imbeciles vote in Bernie as your next president."
As if you Trump supporters command any respect or admiration outside your own fucking bubble.
Are you aware of what is going on in the rest of the world, or are you narrowly focusing on just domestic issues?"
So how much of the rest of the world have you actually seen to think you have any competence to speak about what goes on in the rest of the world?
Personally, I have been an exchange student in Kansas, done my Tour of Duty in Bosnia in 1993, have lived and worked in 5 countries the last 10 years, and have a father living in Spain. I worked for half a dozen American companies these ten years. From Ireland to England, Northern Ireland, Malta and Greece. All in all, I have been to 40 countries from India in the east, Morocco, entire Europe, Caribbean and USA in the west.
Off course I have unlike you, a Trump support no idea what goes on in the world. Because Trump supporters are globe trotters and educated people who have done your service to your country and your Nato allies.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027593431
"Have you heard of the name Angela Merkel? Well, Bernie Sanders will be America's version of Angela Merkel. Europe is in a fucked up position because of people like Bernie Sanders. But don't take my word for is, because to you, all Conservatives and those who identify..."
Bernie with Angela Merkel is a CONSERVATIVE! Bernie Sanders is a social democrat.
I just realized that I am dealing with a complete moron.
No wonder you deleted your post. You just exposed everything that is wrong with USA.
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Gray Cat Do not lump taking drugs with criminal activity. There is no link between drug use and criminality in itself. The only thing that links drugs with criminality is prohibition itself, and the artificially high prices that forces disenfranchised people for alternative income. Until a street magazine started in Oslo (Norway) ten years ago, no junkie had a job, was loitering, or committed burglary to feed their habits.
When the street magazine started, these people all of a sudden had a legal income, and could rise themselves up from the gutter..with a little help.
The whole prohibition in is criminal in itself. These magazine sellers are still being harassed by then police at times. They are still persecuted by the justice system. But at least they don\t do crimes to feed their addiction.
Get the heroin (the heroine of all white women who had problems sleeping or some other) off the street and into the pharmacies, and problem is solved. Linking criminality with drug use alone is disingenuous at best.
Trust me on this. And if you don't, I recommend you read the statements from the Global Commission on Drug Policy and check their solution. And check out some numbers on the DrugWarClock.
As far as lethal drugs being sold, the two most lethal, are legally sold over the counter: tobacco and alcohol. Not to mention the drug companies who pushes out drugs that kills almost 2 million people world wide annually.
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Gray Cat May I remind you that all drug laws the last 150 years have been for racist reasons, or a way for the upper class to keep social control over the proles and serfs.
Prohibition can be read as a part of that eternal class warfare that the rich and the powerful has fought the poor and "the different" ever since Christianity took power in Europe. The notion of prohibition came with the Church and Christianity.
If you think that Rush Limbaugh should be able to get his Oxycontin on the shelf, so should heroin, since that's where heroin started. Drug addicts in Norway are getting Methadone or Subutex. Both heroin based drugs, but without "the buzz". Same poison, and the same death rates.
Clean heroin is hardly harmful at all, and one can live a long life with clean heroin. Like the Rolling Stones. They got lab. quality heroin, and they still live. A bit different from the swill that is sold on the street. The give out free heroin to drug addicts in Switzerland. Most of those people are now having normal lives and jobs. Recruitment has fallen by 85%.
If you are convicted as a felon, then you go to prison. Almost a million people are in prisons today for cannabis in USA alone. And Rand Paul is a corporate and religious stooge, and a flip floper with not an ounce of credibility in his body.
I work against prohibition and drug policies every single day, write article,s about it, and do my research. And toke up my sacred weed on a daily basis just like Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and Abe Lincoln did. In fact, I might toke up one right now before going to work :-)
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@endoftherope Since Reagan's slashing of taxes for the rich, and waging a cancel culture war against social service as well as militarizing the police by intensifying the war on drugs your banana republic has gone down hill.
You surely sound like an obedient cuck for Jeff Bezos, Koch bros, Walmart, Exxon, dark money in politics, ALEC, and most of all your favorite Jewish boogieman George Soros.
You are advocating for more tax cuts to George Soros, while pretending to be against corrupt cops.
You give billions of American tax dollars to Israel who already have universal healthcare for all - including your other favorite boogiemen, transgender people.
By the logic of your own GOPer standards, you are funding a state full of groomers and socialists.
I'm pro-union.
And your head is up the arse of RW conspiracy theorists who have been brainwashed to hate unions on command and since Jimmy Hoffa.
Only fascists and communists are banning workers' unions.
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@EddieChubb25694 “We live in a world where the powers that be insist we worship an invisible god and destroy our physical planet, enslaving our fellow humans, and our nature. Without realizing that the nature we destroy is the god we claim to worship. »
And here we have you.. A number. Claiming that your destruction of other cultures made their lives better..
I am sure those Africans owes you thankfulness for coming with your whips, guns, diseases, prisons, slava plantations, and cultural coercion... Same thing must go for every other continent and culture being "blessed" by your "Christian European" presence, and concepts of reality, flag worshipping, fake religion, and property rights.
The fart of righteousness, the smell of justice.
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Matthew Sifuentes One of the few I could call a mate at school in Kansas was half "white" and half Navajo.
Since I was a kid I was fascinated by Native Americans. One of my boyhood wet dreams was a squaw in a cartoon series from the 70's and 80's.
Her name was "Moon Beam"...Her skirt went further and further up as the seasons progressed.
That's how I got into American history, and Native American history in specific. I even went to Kansas (not my choice) as an exchange student. I was in the middle of bible land and Republicans. A few latinos (one who became my nemesis, and someone I wouldn't mind punching the teeth into - though, that's a personal matter, and not with ethnicity), bible wankers, black baptists, a few Kickapoos, and the local bar we would hang outside while belching home bought beer on a Saturday night...
Americans deeply disappointed me. For many years, I was distraught from the fact that the number of idiots were staggering. And easily molded into their parents ideological image.
¨Don't know what has happened to my old school mates now. I know that the Latino went to the 1st gulf war. I went to Bosnia 2 years later.
Perhaps we're both screwed in our own way.
Sorry for the wall of words. But I think it's important that not all Europeans talk from our asses, and have no clue. Some of us have gone to school there, and are fairly well informed :-)
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How about Mt. Rushmore?
How about putting up faces of Geronimo, Sitting Bull, Chief Joseph, and Quanah Parker to replace or ad to the collection?
If one need to be reminded of history, put the villains in a museum.
One does not have statues of Nazi war criminals in Germany. In fact, flying a nazi flag in public is forbidden.
There are however museums all over as reminders of the past.
Same thing should go for statues of land grabbers and genocidal slave owners.
What has happened at Standing Rock is far more concerning than what happens to a bunch of statues commemorating characters who upheld a racist system if you want to put some perspective on it.
What these statues symbolises however has been a symptomatic problem ever since Columbus set his stinking, unwashed feet ashore San Salvador.
The notion of only Europeans as culture bearers and builders, entitled to rape, steal and murder their way to wealth and glory in history.
There's a range of examples in history where villains has been elevated almost to sainthood, while characters not half bad has been vilified. These statues coming down are just a few examples.
As far as India goes, it seems that India has colonized England in some ways.
India has influenced both writers, artists and musicians in the west for almost half a century if not more.
Compared to India, Britain is a fart in a history going back 6000 years, having survived waves after waves of cultural influence, wars, genocides, religion, arts, philosophy and science. However, Indian nationalism as far as I'm concerned is just as disgusting as any other form of nationalism.
USA cannot be compared to India in this perspective of History.
These statues represents a whole different mindset.
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The closest thing we've had to Communism in human history are the Native American tribes. Property as in a capitalist context was unknown.
Nobody was homeless. Nobody was starving.
And if you were cheap and didn't share, you were booted from the community. They had elections. Women had the right to vote. In fact, the Iroquois society was built around the Matriarchy. Something that was unheard of in "civilized", male dominated societies with a patriarchal religion poisoning everything which came to America and committed genocide after being bailed out the first winter (too busy digging after gold than learning how to grow crops native to the land)
Today, RWers don't believe in community, but the notion that two hands can build empires even though, empires are built on the backs of the grunts who reaps little or no rewards compared their capitalist owners make. It's the people sitting on top, doing the least physical work who reaps the biggest rewards. And in the eye of a republican, a "job creator"...
"It takes a village to raise a child" has become profanity in the ears of a RWer.
Anyone ever read the fantasy book, the Bible, baby Jebus would make Marx look like an Ayn Rand fan in comparison.
He didn't want anyone in his flock to own wealth.
If you own more than you can carry with you, you risk becoming a slave of your possessions - shackled, and tied down, always worried about "my stuff"..
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AnimeBeefRandoms Keep dreaming in fantasy land....Don't flatter yourself Conservative. You RWers are not exactly known for your superior intelligence. Your elected representatives proves in droves what kind of level the intelligence of your average GOP voter lies on. keep parroting that Bush jr, and Mitt Romnney actually worked from the bottom with their own bootstraps.
http://aattp.org/boeing-gets-over-7000-in-corporate-welfare-for-every-dollar-they-spend-lobbying/
If they didn't come from wealthy families, they would most likely be factory workers, or sheep farmers for all I know. Extremely few of the top 1% have actually come from poverty and gained wealth the honest way. And meet a VIPer, he would think he is above the law.
40 years ago, a CEO seldom made more than 40 times the average worker. And you think that CEOs who run companies to the ground should take out both bonuses and million dollar salaries.
Keep speaking the cause of those "hard working" CEOs who's human value is thousands of times more than their worker, even though, they are the ones bringing the company to bankruptcy, keeps the pensions, and sells it off in pieces, and sets up shop in China.
Keep dreaming that those hedge fund managers, bankers, and CEOs in ALEC who writes legislature for your party, and spreads it as propaganda from FOX.
If anyone is brainwashed here, it's some American teabagger who either don't know squat about real life economics and how the system works for your corporate heroes against people like you.
I mean, if you're not a millionaire and vote GOP, you're a sucker.
http://aattp.org/boeing-gets-over-7000-in-corporate-welfare-for-every-dollar-they-spend-lobbying/
You wallowing in nothing but GOP talking points. Giving the impression that only the CEOs, the owners, and the corporations and stock holders are creating the wealth while the minimum wage worker is there for a free ride, and therefore, a multi billion dollar, non living corporations run by people with selfish interest (highest profit margins for the minimal risk, and the workers pensions as collateral) deserve tax breaks because they work so much harder, and risk so much more than the average worker who don't know if he have a job, or healthcare coverage next week.
And if we shall take a look at these welfare queens, shall we?
http://iflizwerequeen.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Screen-shot-2012-12-14-at-10.52.56-AM.png
http://seriouslyepicstuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Walmart-food-stamp-medicaid-workers.jpg
http://aattp.org/boeing-gets-over-7000-in-corporate-welfare-for-every-dollar-they-spend-lobbying/
If you have worked for a corporation, please enlighten me. I have worked for HTC, MSN Microsoft, XBox, HP, Symantec, and a few other companies abroad the last ten years. So I know a little bit about what kind of mentality they have.
A little word of wisdom from the past:
http://www.laprogressive.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Greed16.jpg
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AnimeBeefRandoms There's no reasoning with you. You ARE Propaganda. You're nothing but FOX Business talking points. RW propaganda, lies and complete ignorance, a staunch defense of the freeloaders on top while you are pissing on the vast majority of all who takes home a paycheck, working for someone else.
You're a complete idiot if you think that the Koch brothers, Mitt Romney, the Waltons and the Wall Street bankers have done an honest days work - ever.
You know nothing about business
You know nothing about corporations.
You know nothing about economy.
You know nothing about reality.
Do you know anything?
A CEO represents the corporation and is a part of that corporation, isn't he? And if a corporation is a different entity completely unrelated, not even a living thing, why should a corporation that actually serves no one but the corporation if it making a profit, yet doesn't actually produce anything except for having a brand?
And right now, you are promoting the right of the freeloaders to take large chunks of value from a corporation they don't actually produce anything of value with, while the worker who risks his job gets the crumbles.
And there's that myth again that Ivy League bosses,, CEOs and corporate owners work so much harder than the field hand you dismiss with crumbles,
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AnimeBeefRandoms Should CEOs make more than a thousand times more than the average worker?
Why should only CEOs get giant bonuses?
I am impressed on such a staunch defender you are on behalf of the people who sit back and rake in at other people's expense.
And you make it seem that it's only stock holders, CEOs and management that sacrifices something and deserves something special while others get to take as little money as possible as wages, and get to say thank you, and go home, and NOT be able to afford what they just produced.
Why?
Because the CEOs need their stock options, their multimillion dollar pay checks, and bonuses.
You know what Wall Street did with much of the handout they got form Bush in 2008?
They gave themselves giant bonuses (for what?) and went on a spending spree, pissing on the American people and continued with their foreclosures and risky gambling that lead to the crash in the first place.
And then Obama came. All of a sudden he was to blame for everything, and it was the taxes and the poor who caused the downfall.
Let me remind you. 30 years of Reaganomics caused Detroit to fall in ruins.
And corporations don't care about you. To a CEO, you are a replaceable work ant.
Good for making him money, and have you breed enough spawn for the next generation of dumbed down, obedient workers.
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@CMG Oh, yes it was.
The drug war is an all republican idea.
They went after Taliban poppy fields specifically, and left the poppy fields alone.
In the meantime, your own corrupt politicians have made a market for private prisons to fill your own citizens with everything from opiate addics (unless their name is Rush Limbaugh) while letting their own puppets in a foreign country grow as much as they need to fill the market with both legal and illegal drugs while stuffing their pockets.
Don't hate me for pointing out facts. You see, I do research on these things.
Hate yourself for making silly choices in life.. like voting for psycopath just because they fill your reptile brain with fear.
Choose to vote them out. Choose people who represents you. Choose people who has taken consuence of your own words "drugs will always be around", and end this delusional notion that prohibition and prisons solves anything as long as banks and pharma companies get to run wild.
If I were you, instead of going on a rant about how I as a leftist with "too much weed in my brain", and how I am wrong about everything, simply because I am not in "your" party of rich frat brats who fill their gills with over prized swill, and think that smoking a toke is bad for ya and needs to be criminalized, I suggest you take a long and hard look at your own representative and where he or she gets his or her checks from to run fear ads on TV from.
I also suggest you take a long look at the history of prohibition, starting from England in the 1840s (where they banned gin, and fought for a monopoly of the opium market - creating a nation of drug addicts when they forced themselves on to the Chinese markets).
What we have today, is merely a repetition of the social control practiced in England... back then, based on class... today, based on both race and class.
Look up how Richard Nixon threw his own commissions' report in the garbage and started this endless war on drugs just because he wanted to demonize hippies, war protestors and minorities.
Don't take my word for it, since you obviously don't trust anything that doesn't speak your tribal language of republican. Do your own research instead of spewing out blanket statements without merit "Mexico and China.....the liberals best friends."
Show you can act like an adult.
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adder2204 Walmart is an excellent example on how the corporate mono-culture is spreading like a plague. Often through wars in the name of some "noble cause". Like "the war on terror", or "the war on drugs", or "fight against Communism", etc.
Although Walmart has not conquered Scandinavia or Britain, or any other place in Europe, we do have Coca Cola, Hollywood, McDonald's' and now very soon Domino's. Walmart has conquered the cheap labor market like so many other corporations in East Asia, while the police is being militarized to keep unemployed, disgruntled minorities in check while government is keeping it's populace in constant fear of some boogieman enemy, getting away with murder somewhere else on the globe.
Ever heard of H.L. Mencken?
Look him up and see what he says about a corrupt government gone insane..
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rationalmuscle Did you say something?
So you want to refute a long line of verses because it doesn't fit your argument, and instead, you choose to lean on the same verses as ISIS does?
How cute.
As far as your alleged genius goes, there has been nothing but personal attacks as if that strengthens your argument.
Makes you look even more pathetic than before.
But as we all see, religion has been used for personal agendas, and a prefect hiding spot for any sociopath who needs a moral crutch to satisfy his blood lust.
Let's just deal with the fact that your projection is stunning. I am amazed.
Listen fella. When I deal with Islamists, or Muslims, I deal with them on their terms. You walk right into the trap of Pamela Geller and book burning pastors...
You sir, are in no position to bring down any religion. You're too stuck up in your warped self image and that good old Murican indoctrination.
See. When I bring down Islam, I do it with respect to their personas. While you seem to be afflicted by some form of Tourette's which also influences how you communicate with people whom you disagree with.
Is it Tourette's, or just that Murican arrogance shining through?
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rationalmuscle If you had any knowledge of your bible and the Q'uran, you would not have put up an argument. And if you were an adult, you would go and find out for yourself.
I'm sure those verses you brought up are meant as universal rules in peacetime.
So let me educate you since your "education" seems to be reaching as far as Freerepublic and WorldNet Daily.
I'm quoting the whole thing, so these words are not my own. Most of them are direct Quran quotes YOU never knew about.
"Unbelievers: To be persecuted or forgiven?
Let us look at Noble Verses 9:28-29 "O ye believe! Truly the pagans are unclear; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear povery, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, For Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the last day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of truth, from among the people of the book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Let us look at Noble Verse 45:14 "Tell those who believe, to forgive those who do not look forward to the days of Allah: It is for Him to recompense (for good or ill) each people acording to what they have earned."
There is no contradiction in the above Noble Verses !.
It is quite clear that Noble Verses 9:28-29 came for a certain period of time and for a certain reason (battle or conflict). Notice that Allah Almighty said "....after this year... (9:28)" This clearly proves that this order from Allah Almighty regarding fighting/killing unbelievers was for that particular conflict/war for that year.
It is prohibited to kill non-Muslims in Muslim lands or under the Islamic ruling: "Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: 'O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness.' (The Noble Quran, 18:86)" In this Noble Verse we see that if the enemy wants to do us harm, then we must punish those who did us harm. Otherwise, we must treat the enemy civilians and the innocents with kindness.
Please visit Does Islam really allow the killing of innocent unbelievers? for more details.
As for Noble Verse 45:14, it is a general one. Allah Almighty orders Muslims in the Noble Quran to allow total freedom of choice to people and to never try to force them into Islam; "Let there be no compulsion (forcing others) in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 2:256)" The Noble Quran prohibits Muslims to force any person into Islam. Muslims must not let people resent Islam and Muslims. They must leave people decide for themselves because the "Truth stands out clear from error...(2:256)"
Compulsion is incompatible with religion: Because (1) religion depends upon faith and will, and these would be meaningless by force; (2) Truth and Error have been so clearly shown up by the mercy of Allah Almighty that there should be no doubt in the minds of any persons of good will as to the fundamentals of faith; (3) Allah Almighty's protection is continuous, and His Plan is always to lead us from the depths of darkness into the clearest light."
"Does Islam really allow the killing of innocent unbelievers?
This is one misunderstanding that keeps rising up against Islam. Islam does not in anyway allow for the killing of any innocent soul. I have gathered some of the Noble Verses that I am aware of that deal directly with war and peace to shed some light upon my readers.
Noble Verses that order the killing of the enemies:
Let us look at Noble Verses 9:28-29 "O ye believe! Truly the pagans are unclear; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear povery, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, For Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the last day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of truth, from among the people of the book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Let us look at Noble Verse 9:5 "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."
As we clearly see in the above Noble Verses, the laws of killing the unbelievers or the pagans were for particular and specific times, and not for all times and all places. Notice the quotes "...after this year..." and "...when the sacred months have passed...".
It is important to know that when Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him started preaching Islam, he had to deal with 360 Arab pagan tribes at first, and he and his followers had to go through a lot of battles that were imposed upon them by the pagans who were threatened by the new System and Wonderful Religion of Islam.
Noble Verses that deal with peace:
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"
"On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. (The Noble Quran, 5:32)"
"Those who invoke not, with God, any other god, nor slay such life as God has made sacred except for just cause, nor commit fornication; - and any that does this (not only) meets punishment. (But) the Penalty on the Day Of Judgement will be doubled To him, and he will dwell Therein in ignominy. (The Noble Quran, 25:68-69)"
"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"
"If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee: for I do fear God, the cherisher of the worlds. (The Noble Quran, 5:28)"
"God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (The Noble Quran, 60:8)"
"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for God. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers. (The Noble Quran 2:193)"
"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 2:256)"
"Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them). (The Noble Quran, 15:2-3)"
"Say, 'The truth is from your Lord': Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it):......(The Noble Quran, 18:29)"
"If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then COMPEL mankind, against their will, to believe! (The Noble Quran, 10:99)"
"Say: 'Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger: but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message). (The Noble Quran, 24:54)"
"Say : O ye that reject Faith! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine. (The Noble Quran, 109:1-6)"
"Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: 'O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness.' (The Noble Quran, 18:86)" In this Noble Verse we see that if the enemy wants to do us harm, then we must punish those who did us harm. Otherwise, we must treat the enemy civilians and the innocents with kindness.
Let us look at Noble Verse 45:14 "Tell those who believe, to forgive those who do not look forward to the days of Allah: It is for Him to recompense (for good or ill) each people according to what they have earned."
Let us look at Noble Verse 5:32 "...if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people..." In this Noble Verse we clearly see that Allah Almighty honors all the innocent souls that He created. Killing any innocent soul is so hated by Allah Almighty that He considers it as a crime against all of Mankind.
Let us look at Noble Verse 25:68 "Those who invoke not, with God, any other god, nor slay such life as God has made sacred except for just cause, nor commit fornication; - and any that does this (not only) meets punishment." In this Noble Verse we clearly see that Allah Almighty considers the innocent soul "sacred". He will punish those who kill the innocent souls (by throwing them in hell).
Let us look at Noble Verse 2:182 "But if anyone fears partiality or wrong-doing on the part of the testator, and makes peace between (The parties concerned), there is no wrong in him: For God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful."
Let us look at Noble Verse 2:224 "And make not God's (name) an excuse in your oaths against doing good, or acting rightly, or making peace between persons; for God is One Who heareth and knoweth all things."
I'd say, this Noble Verse clearly proves my point: Let us look at Noble Verse 8:61 "But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things)." In this Noble Verse, we clearly see Allah Almighty ordering us, the Muslims, to incline toward peace when the enemy inclines toward peace. This proves that Islam is not a religion for wars, but for peace.
Allah Almighty orders Muslims in the Noble Quran to allow total freedom of choice to people and to never try to force them into Islam; "Let there be no compulsion (forcing others) in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 2:256)" The Noble Quran prohibits Muslims to force any person into Islam. Muslims must not let people resent Islam and Muslims. They must leave people decide for themselves because the "Truth stands out clear from error...(2:256)"
Compulsion is incompatible with religion: Because (1) religion depends upon faith and will, and these would be meaningless by force; (2) Truth and Error have been so clearly shown up by the mercy of Allah Almighty that there should be no doubt in the minds of any persons of good will as to the fundamentals of faith; (3) Allah Almighty's protection is continuous, and His Plan is always to lead us from the depths of darkness into the clearest light.
In the above Noble Verses, we clearly see that Allah Almighty orders the Muslims to be forgiving to the enemies and to make peace and peace making their top priority. It is part of the Muslim's morals to be a peaceful person.
Muslims start their greetings with "As'salamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh", which means in English "May GOD's peace, mercy and blessings be upon you."
This is indeed the beautiful religion of Islam. Please visit Good manners in Islam to see ample Noble Verses that order the Muslims to repel evil with good."
So there you go. When you serve the same verses as any other war monger, I serve verses that proves my statements.
The violent part in the Q'uran is not worse than any bible thumper who thinks that torturing people, and bombing their homes is the best way to promote peace, democracy, Christianity and Western values.
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rationalmuscle "I'm a former youth pastor, however, that shouldn't matter, despite the fact that I could use that as fodder for my position. I have not, because it doesn't take degrees in theology to understand the problems at hand. You should address the arguments at hand and stop with the red herrings if you wish to have a conversation about it. "Christian gun owners" are not amassing in hordes and killing in the name of Jesus. If they start, and wish to convert ME to that belief, then you'll hear me speak up about that. Until then, I'm just around to make progressive pussies uncomfortable enough to actually think about what they're saying."
So much for an ounce of credibility. Did your kids brainwash into their mental stage?
Killing in the name of Jesus has been the modus operandi the last 1700 years ever since your church father scammed themselves into power.
If you knew anything about Abrahamic religions, you would have known that word for word, the Q'uran is by far the most progressive and tolerant of all three books.
Sign # 7 you are a Christian apologist:
Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the male first-born babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" – including women, children, and trees.
The Crusades. Christians voting against the poor. Are pro death penalty. Bombing planned parenthood clinics. Vote for war.
Just because you are not directly involved in atrocities in the ME,, doesn't make you less accomlice or less evil than the head cutters or these attackers. IT just makes you look like a coward, washing your hands.
There's a difference between Charlie Hebdo and Christian apologist who throws rocks in glass houses. And by you attacking Islam, you are attacking huge parts, perhaps all parts of the Islamic mythology, since -Mohammed got his entire from Christians and Jews.
What you seem to not understand that if you walk up to a person, insults to his face, pick a fight, and whine like a bitch when he kicks your arse, you cannot get my sympathy.
Instead of bitching and playing your pathetic victim card, you should be a bit more "Christ like" and love your enemy, the ones you have been dropping bombs on and torturing for the last 13 years.
Instead, you feel it's your right to insult other people's beliefs, and think that gays are a threat to your religious "freedom".
You're hypocrites" You hide your prejudices, xenophobia, and blatant ignorance from cherry picking from a religion you hardly know nothing about. And right now, I wonder what made you qualify for being a "youth pastor".
Paedophile tendencies? I know one thing, you have molested the minds of many kids with your disgusting ideology of Christianity.
Like said, Islam is word for word far more progressive and tolerant than your death cult could ever be. And if you want to see how a country ruled by the bible looks like, just go back to Europe before the Enlightenment.
But since you are a Christian apologist whose "Christianity" I suspect is nothing but a fake label, I suspect you would not understand that.
In what way do you practise your Christianity towards other people?
Have you given three minutes of your life, helping turning the life of a homeless person around?
As far as me entering your heaven, the chance is slightly thin. I don't believe in your biblical garbage. But I can still hand you verses that shows how ridiculous your "faith" is. Not only that, if your fundies are right, only republican money hoarders, gun owners and bigoted bible thumpers are allowed in there.
I would have a chance with the Allah version of your bible god. Since the most weighty thing is intentions and your actions, and not bind faith, and expectation of someone else being sacrificed in your stead.
At least if I should take any stake in what Muslim scholars have told me, and what I have found indications of in my own reading.
The moon god does not condemn non believers to eternal hell fire. Nor does he condone cruelty or slaughtering of the innocent. If he did, he wouldn't be almighty would he?
And if the bible god is equally almighty, why does he need to sacrifice himself for alleged "sins" do against "his will", and gives us an option, total submission and blind faith, or eternity in hell.
However, you Christians can't seem to agree with each other on the matter. All I know is that a sort of modern day Calvinism is dominating the politically motivated church fathers in USA..
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What do you know about Socialism?
Many tings are socialized: Pentagon, the Police, the fire dept, your Congress, the army (not Pentagon, which is a wholly owned subsidiary by the arms industry), the school system (with private schooling, only the rich could sen their kids to school)... The oil industry is socialized despite their record profits. Wall St. has been socialized (bailouts), while they keep all their profits.
Is conservative liberal, for freedom, or only authoritarian?
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*****
I just have to think of their "hero" DICK Cheney and his way to handle guns. And no. I seriously doubt that veterans with two working brain cells would want every dick with no battle training waiving their guns at McDonald's or where ever the hell they would think they will be attacked by the "ebil govment". May I remind you that you can change your government every 4 years, your house rep. every two years, and senator every 6 years.
And if the evil government would want to take you out, no gun however much fire power it has (like 100 in each magazine as NRA wants it) would ever help you.
Your government have committed crimes against humanity since 2001. They can read every single post you ever put out on the internet. Hell! Have they started to read the mail you have a tired veteran from the post office is delivering yet? They did it in Nazi Germany and Stalin Russia. They tear gas unarmed and peaceful protesters and students, they CHEER the overthrow of the BLACK president, and bitch about "government overreach" when a millionaire squatter refuse to pay his part of the rent and your elected government have come to pick up what they are owed.
And thanks to GOP ammosexualism, there are guns in Mexico being used to kill refugees from their gang wars.
I am a veteran myself. I shot at Serbs in 1993 as a Marine. I have not touched a gun ever since. And I do not understand how you, the "freest people on this earth" feel so threatened by your government that you feel you need to walk around like Gunslinger Tex or some Taliban fighter in Helmand.
HELL! The GOP has screwed you over big time this time. And they are bought and paid for crack whores for the Kochs (dirty energy and destruction of American nature), NRA, with a base so noisy, I thought for a while that your whole country had gone insane.
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***** Bullshit!
I have enjoyed many street fights as a punk kid in the streets of Oslo with RW morons, and never needed a gun!
Only bed wetters who need a security blanket need a gun. And off course, the Marines when we went and shot at Serbs for Clinton in the 90's...
You know what you get when everybody walks around waving their guns as penis extensions?
USA today!
Paranoid whack jobs, school killers, militarized police with surplus from the last military "success" abroad, and authoritarian bible wankers who carry both their guns AND their bibles, yet with no idea how to use either...
Wanna know about America in the future if the climate haven't fucked with you first?
IDIOCRACY!
Or some other dystopian future where a new Dark Age will set it...
Personally, I couldn't give a shit. I don't have kids. I can pack to go anywhere in 20 minutes, and look forward to the Ragnarrok man has doomed itself to...
Things would be a bit different if I had a wife and kids, or even dog. I would actually give a shit! Now, I'm saying "Bring on the Circus" The freak show! Entertain me!"
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***** I'm a veteran who knows that you are a fool and have been taken on a ride by war mongering Neocon chickenhawks. I guess you as a RW moron would love to have Diuck Cheney back because they were such a blessing. If it wasn't for Liberals, YOU wouldn't have a GI bill to get yourself an education. It was LIBERALS who protested against a war you were probably DYING to get into, to get your ass blown off at the wish of your RW government who pissed on the constitution, and lied you into war. It's also LIBERALs who wants to give you a decent wage flipping burgers or wash toilets for the rich chickenhawks.
And you are sick and tired of Liberal progressives? Thanks to your RW hate radio, and FOX you have been so fucking radicalized, playing the victim card while blaming Liberals for being a failure as a solider, a veteran, an American and a human being...
Well, I am sick and tired of whiny, bitching, and LYING scumbags hiding behind "I'm a veteran, and since I'm a RW Romney/Teabagger republican, so my opinion counts more than yours".
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+timabuf That's all you RWers care about. Getting handouts from other people's tax dollars to fulfill your wet dreams...in other words imposing your political agenda.
Why don't you go and pay for the shit from your own pockets?`Why don't YOU buy these psychos who scare up kids with their guns some more bullets from your own weekly salary from your mother?
Don't blame liberals for the mess that neocons and neoliberals have created south of the border.
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Most these people are refugees from a war that USA with Reagan continued after Nixon. (Carter wanted to end the drug war. Nixon started it.)
Not to mention all the Fascist dictators USA have propped up throughout the last 70 years.
What I find astonishing is how you RWers talk about freedom but are vehemently against people moving around freely. When you talk about "freedom", you talk about freedom for money and goods. People should be confined to where they are born, and if USA decides to bomb your village, USA will make damn sure to keep you out of the borders.
When you RWers talk about how Christian you are, you talk about it in vague terms, or go bashing atheists, Muslims, gays, abortion, feminists, and all who don't share your delusions.
You never talk about taking care of the poor, healing the sick, tolerance, compassion, and inviting a stranger into your home.
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Gray Cat So you are against following the Geneva Convention and human rights for nationalist interests?
How does torture save anyone's lives?
Torture war invented to get whatever answer you WANTED, and not necessarily the truth.
And if torture ever worked, why did George Washington as well as Abraham Lincoln go against it?
Why weren't Nazi prisoners of war tortured during WW2?
"your beloved terrorists are holding people in Australia hostage. "
Throwing ad homimens only makes you look like a foolish juvenile.
And from where I stand, I have a hard time differentiate between you and the hostage takers in Sidney...
Not only do you sound pathetically gung ho, you also sound like you have never served your country in a uniform.
P.S. Something tells me that you create your own terrorists....
P.P.S. We have our own home grown terrorists in Norway. One by the name of Anders Behring Breivik.
He is a staunch Zionist, a Christian dominionist with a past in the youth party of FRP (who are in government now). He hates multiculturalism, Muslims, gypsies, Africans, Asians. He is a militant nationalist, and felt the need to shoot a bunch of kids to punish them and the social democratic government for allowing refugees from the wars USA have started or had business in the last 40 years into the country, or immigration in general.
He would be the face of the American Teaparty.
He was never tortured.
Though he IS whining about not getting the latest hardware of XBox....
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That was only talk on the side of Boner. Off course he will stand in line and protect the oil companies and the Wall Street vultures. When he says "maybe we'll take a look at it" means squat. It means he'll glands at it, have a meeting with his donors, and then forget the whole thing. While attacking SS, medicare, Medicaid, "Obamacare", public workers, unions, your grandma, the unemployed, teachers, firefighters, nurses and YOU!
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Steve Baldwin " But haters gonna hate. Boom, there it is. BOOM, there it is! BOOM, THERE IT IS!!"
Right! Because you don't discriminate and moralize agaqinst gays because you hate them, it's because Jesus! Right! And now, you bitch and whine like crybabies when you are being confronted by your own hatred.
And instead of scorning your own fellow Christians for calling for LGBTs to be put to death, not a word. But when you get yur own vitiol back in your face, you play the victim card on how persecuted you are for not being allowed to treat people like shit the way you have done since 391 AD when your Christian emperor killed babies for having the wrong religion.
So is it twisted to point out the oh, so typical Christian lack of compassion and staggering hypocrisy?
Now what gives you the right to deny people service for their sexual orientation? You have claimed that Jesus have given you that right. But I have proven you to be a liar, and hence a worse sinner than any queer on the block. Your lies are worse sins than living in a same sex relationship.
And misrepresenting?
You are giving me a wll of nothing but prtojetions and whining. Wheh shall we play the worlds smallest violine for you, the persectued Christian?
So when gays burn churches, and kill fundies for being Christian, come back to me. When Atheists are in power, and claims that Christians shouldn't be considered "real citizens" like Bush sr. did, then come back to me. Until then, shut the fuck up. Your double standards are giving me a headache.
So much for your Christian "love". The only thing you want to do is påoint fingers and persecute people instead ofg actually DOING what your savior demanded off you. So far, you have not shown any signs of being a real Jesus follower, but a fake "Christian" using religion to hide your bigotry with. IF you were a "TRUE" Christian, you wouldn't come here to play the victim card. You'd be working at a soup kitchen by now. After giving away your entire fortune and all your property to a homeless veteran. But you are not a "true" follower of Jesus, are you? Nothing but an indoctrinated prick who thinks that all your baby Jesus was thinking about was how people were using their genitals.
The "LOVE" of Yahweh:
http://bandoli.no/message_of_love.htm
So stop your bitching and start ACTING like the Jesus disciple you claim to be. Or do I detect a big fat liar here who really couldn't give a shit about what Jesus preached on the Mount, but rather spend your time thinking about gay sex....
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You seem to not refute my challenge but to confirm the narrow state of mind.
1. Jesus blessed gays in his time. And no business has a right to refuse service based on race, creed ethnicity or sexual orientation. He never condemned homosexuals with the same fanaticism as you do. And he would never deny them cake at his party regardless of how disgusted you are by the notion that Jesus would break bread with gays. He would never have shown this lesbian couple the door as the couple who think they have direct line to god where this skyspook has given them authority to condemn others and refuse them service.
You can believe in what you want and practice black masses for all I care in your spare time.When you are work, you do not have the right to impose your privately held beliefs on others.
I do not condone or agree with your lifestyle choice as a Christian bigot, but that does not give me the right to deny you service if I worked at a place you are a customer. This is what you Christians are bitching about. You Christians have no moral right to point fingers and refuse to act with simple decency in society. Hence, the ruling was just, and it will send a message to all Christian Fascists who want to make USA into a Saudi Arabian style theocracy.
3. No! It's this Christian couple whom are abusing their religion. You Christians have always "defended" your religion by destroying others, and deny others full civil rights.
4. No! They were sick and tired of the "sinful England" and left entirely on their own accord. They wanted to create their Christian Caliphate with weekly witch burnings and merciless persecution of everybody else not adhering to their specific style of Christianity.
As far as the Bill of Rights goes, it's chemically cleansed for any Christian reference. It states "seperation of church and state". This means that the state shall not play favors for one specific religion, no matter how bigoted that religion is.
But why I am wasting time on you with this? You will not listen to reason no matter what, but to bitch about how you are hated and how your Jesus is just as much of a bigot as you are. You will still ive in the notion that you are somehow morally superior to pass judgement on who's allowed to get married and eat and not.
Though I will show you how your religion is not only morally inferior, but also the bloodiest, most intolerant death cult in human history and need to be defanged. You have also proven that you do not represent a religion of peace, tolerance, love or compassion. You have proven to be a Christian douche with both a persecution as well as superiority complex.
http://bandoli.no/message_of_love.htm
So if you want to be taken seriously, lose your glasses of religious ignorance and bigotry. Open your eyes to far superior morals, like the humanism that grew in the 1700s- Your mindset is still in the bronze age, and is destructive.
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Well conservatives have been at war against liberals, voting rights, women, minorities, pot smokers, veterans, the unemployed, the sick, workers, worker unions, gays and atheists, Have I left something out?
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Eric M Instead of actually getting what I wrote, you once again use the immigrants as target. And don't give me that bullshit that you and your kind has ever given a damn about the poor. If you did, there wouldn't be 220 000 homeless veterans living on in the streets.
You're supposed to be the richest sand the best country ion the world and seek policies that can be reminded of that of GERMANY in the 193o0's- And then you bitch about "Big Government". Now you are getting all horny over a "strong man" who not only want to impose a police state, but also wants to shred the constitution.
So much for principles. And I have never heard a single word about prosecuting the people who actually HIRES these people for far less than minimum wage, and on slave like contracts. All I hear fronm you people is "the illegals don't have the same rights as me!" As if you were ABOVEbirth rights than others.
May I remind you that USA was founded by immigrants. On the Statue of Liberty it says "give me your tired, your hungry, your poor!" May I remind you that the vast majority of immigrants to USA the last 200 years did not have a high school diploma, and coud not read an'd write. Chances are that the refugees from the death squads and the drug gangs knows more English than you know Spanish. Besides, most people coming across the border now are REFUGEES. From a drug war started by Nixon and intensified by Reagan. A drug war that has cotst millions of people their lives and have incercerated milliois more.
And now you have a rich white boy claiming that Murica has been scre3wed over by poor countries EXPLOITED by your Reichwing governments the last 60 years. What i8s ironix is that mi'llions of American go to Canada each year to get cheap medicines. Subsidised by the state.
Now YOUR slogan seem to be "Sorry. We're full."
Or
"Do you have money and a degree?"
I have one thing to say about your self righteousness and hyour ignorance and your arrogoance! FUCK YOU with your biullshjit! Get your head out o0f the arses of your KMSM and get some REAL information inst4ead of just liusteing to liers, half criminals and demagogues. And if you are so concerned about people coming to "your2 country, i suggest you start looking to vote for candidates who are AGAINST TPP. So far only one candidate is against that deal. That is Bernie Sanders.
i also refuse to believe that the majority of the American people have this disgusting view on human bneings, and reality in general You claim to love the Constitution, but vote consistently for people hellbent on using it as a toilet paper.
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Paul Wood You know why? Because there are more than 10 000 gun deaths in USA every single year. She is covering situations that are out of the ordinary. She don't cover any murder where the killer is behind bars. She covers murders where the killer goes free, and point out the institutionalized racism against non-"whites" in USA.
So please. Don't give me any impression that "white" people is a persecuted minority, being subjected to slavery, subjugation, and institutionalized discrimination, rendering them 3/5th of a person, and not allowed to vote.
Don't even give me the impression that African Americans and Europeans started out on equal terms after the Civil Rights movement in the 60's.
If people could own what one built, the entire Wall Street would have been owned by African Americans today. Since that part was built by African slaves. Wonder what the value of that large piece of property is in real value with all it's assets is worth today.
Or how about Manhattan entirely? Swindled by European settlers for 20 dollars of bling.... The Natives misunderstood the whole deal, and thought of those as gifts. They never thought of land as a piece of commodity to be bought and sold. So the rightful ownership would in fact be the Native Americans.
Instead, a white guy who represents an ethnic group that never built the Mekka of Capitalism themselves. Neither built their fortune by their own hands. When not killing Native Americans, stealing their ideas of a confederacy, perverting it completely immediately, whipping their black labor into working harder, or cutting off a limb after an escape,
The only channels that spends most of it's time to demonize people are FOX and RW radio. Amy Goodman is a beacon of sanity in an insane asylum.
And as a journalist, she does her job!
If you find news about some KKK member being lynched in Harlem by a gang of Black Panthers or Nation of Islam, and they get away with it, let me know....
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Paul Wood Obama a muslim?
Don't tell me you're a birther too, eh?
Kidding aside... it's a funny disguise if he was a muslim...going to a church run by a Vietnam veteran in Chicago... Personally I think he just pretends to be "Christian" in order not to estrange the people that hate him anyway... people like you.
But hate is so rampant in USA today. Don't you get tired of wasting so much of your energy on hating people you have never met? Tell us what is so constructive in hating things. And why hating me? Have I done anything to you?
Have I hurt you directly or indirectly in any way?
How has Amy Goodman hurt USA in any way? By using her 1st Amendment right and report on news that is not mainstream media like FOX, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS and MNSBC?
And what gives you the right to hate people who actually went to Afghanistan and did the dirty work you were never man enough, or "patriot" enough?
Like said, as much as my contempt for people who willingly marches into war is endless, my contempt for people who cheer for wars, and want others to fight the war for them to be plain cowards. My contempt is substantiated unless you prove me otherwise. As far as your hate for me, as without merit. Unless you have an issue with people who call out BS when we smell it.
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The only violence committed in Nevada was when your DNC shills suppressed democracy and brought in armed cops to intimidate potential protesters.
There was no violence from Bernie supporters.
But bullet holes was found in a Bernie HQ in the same state if I remember correctly.
Wonder if that was a message from DNC or RNC. You two are getting more and more interchangeable. Ever read or watched Animal Farm?
Read the ending. It does apply to DNC, Hillary and the neocons she woos.
First Maddie Albright, then Kissinger, Bill Kristol, Negroponte, Salazar, and now Paul Wolfowitz. The only people missing are Bush and Cheney and you have the "who's who" list over republican war criminals since the 70s.
So if you are a Hillary supporter, good luck in reaching out to progressives, good luck!
Seems that your "big tent" doesn't have room for both progressives and neocons. Your leader have chosen her company.
And you want to focus on imaginary thrown chairs...and OMG...spitting????
SCANDAL!!! STOP THE PRESSES! SOME PEOPLE WHO GOT THEIR VOTES PURGED SPAT IN ANGER!! VIOLENCE!
If you are a Hillary supporter, then you can blame yourself for losing against Trump (or preferably Jill Stein), for not only cheating, but also picking the wrong team. If you're a RWer, I say "See a Trump rally" or the Talibundy's!
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Definition of fascism:
A radical totalitarian ideology which combines corporatism, religion, nationalism, militarism & anti communism.
Advocates the Fuhrer principle, fronts against personal freedom, Marxism, socialism, liberalism.
Fact: Corporate America has shanghaied your government, giving you false illusions that you live in freedom. while you feel threatened by true liberals, and are against personal freedoms, and endorse bad prohibition that directly infringes on the constitution.
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In case you get stuck on this one, since this might force you to think outside your little partisan buble, I'll help you on your way:
1st amendment! 4th, 5th amendment, 6th, 7th, 8th,, & the 10th amendment. All of them was disposed of by the elimination of Habeas Corpus, the FISA laws, FEMA camps, and Patriot Act in large.
Is must suck being an idiot who don't know that your torturer in cheif whiped his ass with your "unaliable rights" in the name of "War on terror"..
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DerrenBrown100 I have something in common with your first president. And 3rd. And the 1st Republican president.
I smoke weed every single bloody day.
We're all stoners.
I smoke due to several reasons. I got a bad stomach. Weed eases the pain, and makes it possible for me to get down any food.
Weed have so many medical properties, that I could write an essay on each and every one of them.
And they are giving out free medical weed to poor veterans who suffer from PSTD since that is the best medication against such things. Works a hell of a lot better than pharma pills, and booze. As a veteran from the Bosnian war, I know all about that too.
I might not have been alive today without Cannabis Sativa/Indica.
So I would like to see you argue against medical marijuana, and if you agree that medical marijuana is a good thing, I would like to see you argue for who should control it. As of now, mostly the black market controls it. Due to prohibition.
While they let banks like HSBC off the hook for laundering billions of drug money, they arrest and put teenagers in jail for smoking a joint.
Your whole good and evil thing is completely irrelevant to the Holy Spirit (who did impregnate a 12 year old under aged, unmarried virgin to give birth to himself).
What two grown consenting adults do with each other in private is none of your business, nor the business of your nosy pastor. Who should be more concerned about his own salvation than boasting his religion in others, being holier than thou.
Jesus taught you to share of your crops, give charity to a stranger, turn the other cheek, and to heal people. You don't heal people by throwing them in prison for smoking cannabis. Cannabis heals you, while prison and punishment makes you sick in your soul.
What He cares about is how we treat each other, and how we keep our faith to ourselves, and reap of what He has given us. He gave us weed in plenty to reap. Instead, there has been forces in this world the last 80 years hellbent on the destruction of this beautiful, God given blessing of a plant..If I should ever become religious again, and start believing in an intelligent creator who has personal influence on our lives, it must be due to weed, and other psychedelics. World wide prohibition has lasted for 50 years. After massive pressure from a fanatical racist named Harry Anslinger who corrupted Congress with racist slants from his ally, William Randolph Hearts newspapers.
Nixon intensified this war on God by throwing away a report made by a committee put together by himself in the garbage. He wanted to crack down on peace activists and hippies who were his worst nightmare during the Vietnam war. In the meantime, young men aged by years in a gruisome war had found cannabis as a way of treating the symptoms a war gives you. So Nixon not only waged war on his political oponents with his draconian policies, he also waged effectivaly war on veterans as well.
The good man and Christian Jimmy Carter did the sensible thing, and went away from the anti-American "War on drugs". Soon to lose again to a noted traitor and b- actor who relied on the "Moral Majority" and Paul Weyrichs agenda. He revamped Nixons war on his own people while CIA smuggled in tons of cocaine and spread it to poor black neighborhoods for money made from the Iran-Contra deal.
So what you are supporting is way beyond disgusting.
And you sir, are even blaspheming the Lord in the process.
The prohibition you are endorsing have been a blow to the core principles that your country was founded on: individual freedom.
And it's funny how you as a person who's ancestors fled religious persecution, is now using religion to suppress the freedoms of others.
Hemp is no more bad smoking than cigarettes. You want to ban cigarettes too?
In fact, smoking weed does very little harm to your lungs, even from a bong than tobacco if smoked pure in comparison to smoking tobacco.
Using a vaporizer or a water pipe is also just as useful. Or you can use in food.
I consider religious fundamentalism far more harmful to society than marijuana.
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DerrenBrown100 Who has mentioned meth here? Or Ecstasy? MDMA is a relative harmless drug in comparison to alcohol and cigarettes.
4 million dies of tobacco related diseases every year on a worldy basis. 1.8 million die of alcohol, and 2.8 million of legal drugs pushed by pharmaceuticals and your congressman want to deregulate while pushing to punish pot smokers.
In comparison, pot has never caused a simple death in history.
So as you can see, I was talking about a plant that has been used by billions of people throughout history. Not about drugs created by man, but by God Himself.
And you want to use religion to deny people their divine right of eternal freedom, because you hate to see people happy, and want to have Big Government dictate what you can and cannot think, or consume.
Sir, you are a hypocrite, and a straw man. If anything, it seems that you are the one hating God and his Holy Creation, not me. I see in you Satan's Spawn.
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@JR-gp2zk Once you start treating refugees better instead of bombing their countries and calling them "illegals", you have no right to talk, little brown shirt.
So you're an apologits for religious oppression because you suffer from Stockholm syndrome after having your priest raping your arse.
Is that what makes you so angry on behalf of religious nutcases who think they are brave for burning rainbow flags?
You and your fellow Brownshirt has abused religion ever since you scammed your first easily fooled idiot.
Christians loves Fascism.
Christians hates the poor and refugees
and here you are, defending christian fascism by dallng their critics "fascists".
Once again, you prove your lack of reading skills and your complete lack of honesty and self awareness.
That's sad.
all that anger and hatred for all who disagrees with your fascism.
Proving that your religion is fake.
Don't get mad at me that your fellow christian brown shirts who loves to dress yourself in a flag and a cross are treating all who are not like you like shit.
So you hate gay people and want them all to die.
So you hate poor people and want them all to go away.
And actually believe that your fundamentalism have somehow made this world a better place.
Adolf was a Christian.
So was Mussolini.
They both persecuted jews, socialists, union workers, leftists, liberals, social democrats, communists, gays, and gypsies.
And you love that kind of persecution,.
While accusing others for doing what you push for because you cannot read, or are as dishonest as any fundie preacher in the deep south who burns books for a hobby.
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Jonny E Good thing that you admit that you have lost the disgussion, both morally and rhetorically. You seemed to slip as soon as you used the "bleeding heart liberal" card. It was like watching a rerun of MASH, and Frank Burns had a role. Congratulations of having the same moral grounds of Frank Burns.
And if you have seen the footage of the kids being blown up by IDF fire fighters, the mere numbers of kids and civilians being killed,and still deny that IDF are killing innocents intentionally, I think I will have a more rewarding conversation with a house plant.
If you do not know what triggers their hatred, and only concerned about the well being of well armed zealots you are confirming my assumptions of your lack of intelligence.
The fighting was started by the settlers. NOT the people who got thrown off their lands! How difficult is it for you to understand that? Or does your Zionist Bleeding Heart not see the suffering caused by colonists from Europe, calling themselves "Jews"?
And you still defend the criminal settlers for "not wanting" the victims of their
crimes being around. It's like sending the victim of a rape to prison so that the rapist can live in peace. Illegal settlers do not want peace. If they wanted peace, they'd live somewhere else.
What I find hilarious, is that when IDF does the violence, it's called "military campaign". When the Palestinians fight back, you call it terrorism, and cry your crocodile tears for the fence that got blown to pieces at one of those illegal settlements. By your logic, ALL Israelis, men, women, children are legitimate targets. For what you say "military campaigns have it's consequences".
I wonder. Have you ever been in the army? Ever served in a war? No!
Then I suggest you refrain from trying to teach a Marine Veteran from the Bosnian war in 1993 anything about "military campaigns" and the consequences, what people like you so casually call "collateral damage".
And you still haven't answered my question!
Do you think that the Palestinians have no say in this matter, and that they do not have the right to fight against an occupant? Do only Jews have the right to arm themselves and do the killing?
Got another little anecdote for you. My grandmother comes from an island outside of Bergen. During the war, there came to a shootout between Norwegian partisans hiding on the island, and Abwehr. One Nazi was shot and killed.
The consequence was that half the island got arrested and confined to imprisonment, and concentration camps. Part of my granmothers family died in Sachsenshausen thanks to the collective punishment you are endorsing.
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bohemianwriter1 Still more pathetic apologetics on behalf of the ethnic cleansing policy of Zionism?
Zionism is an ideology just the same as Apartheid.
And you talk about Islam being the problem while JEWS are inciting their tribal god as a moral clutch to commit to the Palestinians what the Europeans have done to Native Americans, Africans and Aboriginies and Indians.
That's almost tragic on how much of a simpleton you really are. Zionists committ Al Nakba in 1948. They oppress the Palestinians. And then they have useful idiots like you blaming their Islamic faith when they fight back after losing their homes and their families to European made bullets used by European colonists.
If anything, YOU are the one promoting violence. 'You're the one defining killing small babies as "their right to defend themselves"., Seems that you promote violence against children as long as the children are Muslims, or Palestinians, and the killers are white, European and not with the "wrong faith".
If anything, you know jack shit about what you are wasting my time on with your 44 lines of incoherent garbage..
A question: All your excuses for a oppressive, and YES apartheif policies! You are making a mockery of the notion of Apartheid and then you promote it. A sign of cognitive dissonans?
Do you think that the victims of your racist policies will be met with understanding and empathy by the people you discard as terrorists?
Newsflash for you "genious"!
It's just what you are promoting that leads to violence.
Your policies and your support for imprisoning a whole population (the illegal settlements on the WB are being used as buffer zones), thinking they will not react, and when they do, you blame them and their religion?
Put it like this mental reject! ANYONE would react the same way as the Palestinians have done if faced with the same as what you defend. Regardless of what religion they have.
Don't come and tell me that you would accept to be treated the same way as the Palestinians! Would you have labelled the Jews as terrorists if they were in the same situation as the Palestinians are in today, and then blamed it on their Judaism when fighting back? What if the tables were turned? CHRISTIANS in Gaza, and Muslims sending fine tuned rockets over kids playing on the beach because the Muslims have to defend themselves from Christian terrorist children in Gaza.
You are a riot! And an idiot. A complete waste of time and space...
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Jonny E Wow. Seems that you really have a bleeding heart with the ones pushing the button and kills off kids playing on the beach.
I see that your hatred towards Palestinian children only ssupersedeyour hatred towards liberals who do not support your criminal state created by the Brits, and colonized by European settlers.
And it seems that you do not support the right for Palestinians to live in peace and self determination. Recognising that nad not supporting your ethnic cleansing of the ORIGINAL people of Palestine is being "bleeding heart liberal". It seems that in your eyes, the Palestinians have no rights, and have no right to protest, and must just accept the fate that OTHERS impose on them. And when Zionists kills small babies, you call it "self defense" and call it "bleeding heart liberalism". So I guess you are not a pro-lifer, eh? You support late abortions? Or do you just support the right of "Gods chosen people" to kill Palestinian children because they were killed in Europe? Do you support the mass murder of mothers because their husbands started fighting back against the invader?
And why do you think that Palestine is the most appropriate for immigrants from Russia? Why do you demand that the ORIGINAL PEOPLE must accept that a bunch of foreigners taking their homes and kill their sons?
The people of Gaza is in a shitty situation because your heroes placed them there with violence, and then walled them in when they tried to fight back you shithead!
You keep blaming the victims of the actions of IMMIGRANTS FROM EUROPE!
Let me guess: You hate immigrants coming to Britain? Do you hate the Pakkis, and the Gypsies and the Indians and the Africans living in your country?
And why do you not give a shit about "those people"? Is it because you think that they should have to be punished for crimes committed by Antisemitic Christians in Europe?
And whenever you are being confronted by the crimes of the Nazis you support, you go on to Iraq and Vietnam as if that makes their crimes less grave?
I'd rather have a bleeding heart for the innocents than a bleeding heart for colonist killers.
On the other hand: Where do you live? Do you mind if I went to your home, kicked you out with force, and claiming self defense when I blow your brains out when you try to fight back?
Are you in favor of property rights? Do you support the right of people to live in safety in their own homes? Why do you not support the rights of the Palestinians the same?
Why are you supporting theft, murder and ethnic cleansing?
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I am giving a typical example what leads to suicides. Rejection from the military does not necessarily lead to suicide. A few tours on war zones may contribute to that. And that goes for anyone.
Suicide among transgender teens have completely different factors.
None of them caused by them being transgender or '"mentally ill'" alone.
And what do you know of mental illness?
What dp you think causes depressions among victims of daily bullying, harassment and exclusion during the teen years?
Anyone being picked on increase the risk to get depressions and develop social anxiety later. It's how you treat people that makes their day OK or a living hell.
Consider your words, your actions as energy.When you send out negative energies to others, they get stuck with your bad vibes. And that negativity will come back to you like a boomerang. It's simple arithmetic - the universal law of attration. Whatever bullshit you send out, will come back in spades. Every word you say to others, the way you treat others always have an effect. Positive or negative.
If you pick on someone who are transgender because they are transgender, it says more about you and your values than their gender identity.
When your president drafto dodger starts to get an ounce of self awareness and boot himself out of Office before time, he is a micro manager with minor pet peeves and major psychotic hatreds.
If anyone wants to look at clinically insane, see Trumpf.
Anyone wanna see stooges even dumber than him?
See his fans!
Wanna see war heroes who put their arses on the line for fat white, freeloaders who have an obsession with trannie porn?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOAr6DnjeH8
What people go through on a daily basis due to bigotry, harassment, and conservative violience and Christian bullying who have only FEELINGS for fetuses but don't mind seeing transgender kids dead and molested..
Those FEELINGS have more importance to realistic statistics than your precious littl pet peeves.
Wanna talk about crybabies? Talk about your 70 year old orange man baby who cries like a toddler every morning at 3 over how everybody is so unfair to him.
Trump cost the tax payers millions of dollars every time he goes to his WEEKLY vacations at Mar A Lago.
Still his fans think that giving transgender veterans HRT is a waste of money when they never had the guts to eat dirt themselves to do what all those transgender people has been doing since WW2.
Serving theiir country and their tribe`
when's the last time you did that?
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@Riley-ik6sd Please... Indulge us with your confusion between fiction, fantasy, science, and fossil fuel propaganda. Or how you think you know better than the scientists you are in denial of because you allegedly did some lab. experiments and learned to memorize that long forgotten peridocial table.
Again, you think you are doing anyone any service, you are in reality acting like a mini emperor doing an obscene strip tease, thinking it's Arts.
Did I not tell you to get an education, boy?
Or are you worried about becoming a tool for "Big Science" and these alleged grants at the expense of the rights of Exxon & DAPL to put pipelines across your back yard?
You are seriously pointing to actual scientists as leeches and acts as a tool for clean coal", digging up crude oil and has nothing to say about their giant tax cuts, and federal grants which dwarfs whatever you suspect those "greedy scientists" are seeking after.
Seriously. Your persistance in being a tool for fossil fuel giants makes you seem beyond reasoning and logic..
It only strengthens the impression that conservatives suffer from collective delusions about your alleged "facts". And how you act like junkies,, blinded, fooled, and retarded by your addiction to Exxon.
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truthdisciple P.S. Your god only exists in your head.
The bible PROMOTES abortion. Jesus never mentioned abortion or contraception.
Here's what your bible says about abortion:
hat the Bible says about AbortionAbortion is not murder. A fetus is not considered a human life.If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life. --@21The Bible places no value on fetuses or infants less than one month old.And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. -- @27Fetuses and infants less than one month old are not considered persons.Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them. And Moses numbered them according to the word of the LORD. -- @3God sometimes approves of killing fetuses.And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. -- @31
(Some of the non-virgin women must have been pregnant. They would have been killed along with their unborn fetuses.)Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. -- @9Yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb. -- @9Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up. -- @13God sometimes kills newborn babies to punish their parents.Because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die. -- @2God sometimes causes abortions by cursing unfaithful wives.The priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell. And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. ...
And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed. -- @5God's law sometimes requires the execution (by burning to death) of pregnant women.Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt. -- @38
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Christianity is ALL about condemnation, intolerance, absolutism, hypocrisy, suppression, genocide, fairy tales, and THEFT from others. Read your history on Christianity. It is a blood soaked history.
If Kirk Cameron was consistent in his so-called Jesus fanaticism, he would be all about SOCIAL justice, and not banning other people to pursue THEIR happiness because they give him the shingles. He believes in persecution of others, claiming HIS religion commands him to.
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Here's the deal about vaccines. Pub lic health issues is not only about you and your "right" to risk getting infectious diseases that might spread. Your "freedom" stops when your "freedom" hurts others.
Health issues is a public issue.
The same goes for climate change. It''s happening right now. That means that your "freedom" stops when you destroy nature for your own convenience.
Climate change supersedes stupefied ideologies where "libertarians" are basically republicans who want t smoke dope and have free sex and drill holes in the ground on other people's grounds or put pipeline straight through other people's burial grounds. "Libertariansim" is all about the corporate rights to screw you over and deny you overtime pay, paid vacation, and health coverage.
Your "libertarian" stops when other people are affected.
What I find hilarious is how you government haters calls undocumented immigrants as "illegals" as if their identity is no longer human, but "illegals" where you support the same government you hate dragging 11 million people from their homes because they don't follow the "libertarian" definition of "liberty". You people donæt seem to fancy the idea of peoples LIBERTY to move and work where ever they want without government interruption and control. And here YOU are, in true TRump style supports police state methods against 11 million people. Who's going to pay for this? You want to pay for the arrest, accommodation and transport of 11 million 'Mexicans and more millions of Muslims? Cause I certainly won't pay for Dumphs ethnic and religious cleansing, nor will I pay for his "liberty"wall.
You see, "libertarian", the world doesn't revolve around you and your petty little wishes and wants.
You're a part of humanity and would not be able to exist without it.
What I find the most amusing is how an ENGLISHMAN is speaking about a warped version of "libertarian" ideology got free education, free healthcare and probably have gotten all those dreaded vaccines. Did the English bobbies show up armed when you were taken to the doctor and got that free, lifesaving vaccine?
I'm sure you must have felt a nasty sting in your precious libertarian 8 year old heart at the time.
As the semi-educated Englishman you seem to be, I presume you have studied pol.sci and the original version of libertarianism in the late 1800's... Can't say that the American style remotely resembles the version that Rosa Luxemburg and Emma Goldman stood for i the 1800s.
But then again, I could be wrong......Regarding your educational level.
You are right about the butt-hurt "libertarians" though. You seem to be one of them!
Libertarians. Such juvenile jokes.
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+BernieSandersenEspañol That'\s what I just said, wasn't it?
The bishops in Nicaea basically canonized the 4 gospels and discarded the rest as subscribed by iraneaus in Lyon in 180 AD. The official Church was always hostile to other interpretations and sects than their own Roman situated in Rome.
One can start speculating in the notion that Christianity and Jesus was a Roman invention.
Again, you are using references completely irrelevant to the actual Surahs I gave you. It's like reading a pretend Christian squirm and avoid the core message from the Sermon on the Mount, using Leviticus, Deuteronomy, and Paulus to find some moral rationality to NOT practice what Jesus preached.
Besides, it's folly to start "fighting people of the book" arbitrary. It's as if you woke up tomorrow and suddenly decided to go against everything you believed in today, and say start your own killing spree and claim divine authority to do so. Would he do it just because Allah suddenly have changed his mind about tolerating Christians and Muslims? Or was it because Saudi Arabia, like the rest of the Medieval world was pretty violent and volatile?
Saudi Arabia was unstable at the time. With many tribes, and many religions. But he never attacked Judaism or Christianity as a whole to be destroyed based on random agendas or forced conversion.
Like said, if it was Alllah's will to have all people to be Muslims, it would be an easy task to make it so. Another argument for the notion that there is no Allah. Nor any Yahweh nor Jesus Christ Yahweson who ascended into -Heaven after walking around with his disciples like a zombie before ascending into heaven. _maybe it's all made up! Maybe we make shit up to defend and rationalize stupidity, bigotry, power abuse, genocide, backward ideas and ridiculous mythologies and insane morals.
What we can state, is that compared to the Bible and the Torah, the Quran dwarfs both in religious tolerance.
The verses I quoted can be read in the same understanding as how Thomas Jefferson viewed religions. It was of no concern for any Muslim to dictate what others shall believe in.
Om his last sermon, Mohammed gives his'views on other nationalities, races and cultures. No Arab was inferior nor superior to other people. Sort of like the preamble to the Constitution: "All men are created equal"..
Whatever other links or verses you might come up with is futile since they can't rewrite, erase or misinterpret or avoid the verses the way that many will do perhaps due to pure bias and a slight case of prejudice and creative ways of making them mean something else than they actually mean. It's Orwellian. It's giving extremists of all creeds credibility, and elevates them to a label they do not deserve. Like republicans who fight the war in Christmas and defend Christians the rest of the year,m and then try to lecture the pope in religion and starts to hate him because his agenda is a bit closer to what Jesus preached than they appreciate.
ISIS behaves more like newly converted Norsemen going on a crusade then the scientifically oriented Muslims of Alhambra and Cordoba. They have more in common with pope Urban who called for a crusade in 1095. Where the slogan was "killing an infidel is a path to Heaven". As a result, thousands of crusaders went on a killing spree against Jews and others on their way to Constantinople, And wasn't very welcome thanks to their behavior. What you must realize that those times were more complex than merely religious divide. When the first crusader king Sigurd the Crusader killed his way to Jerusalem, alliances would shift more than once during his years as a killer for Christ.
Like said, ISIS behave more like crusaders than the Muslims I met in Marrakesh two months ago or the Muslims I met in India almost 25 years ago.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2010/may/10/islam-freedom-expression
"God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. ( Quran, 60:8)"
"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for God. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers. Quran 2:193)"
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+BernieSandersenEspañol Really? If you had, you would be able to give these verses:
"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Quran, 2:256)"
"Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them). (The Quran, 15:2-3)"
"Say, 'The truth is from your Lord': Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it):......(The Noble Quran, 18:29)"
"If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then COMPEL mankind, against their will, to believe! (The Quran, 10:99)"
If you compare those with the 1st Amendment in the Constitution, you will see that these verses are consistent with the letters, and intent of said amendment. But you already knew that....Or rather not?
I may not have studied Arabic, but I have been studying world religions since 1991. My favorite teacher in high school was Ahamdiyya Muslim. He taught Norwegian and Religion. I became really interested in comparative religion after 1 year in Kansas, and that high school year where my interest in history was rekindled. That year, in 1991, we went to India as a study group of 30 students.
I actually LEARNED something from him.
As an Atheistic Buddhist, and a true cosmopolitan, I can vouch that the Quran is far more inclusive, non judgmental and liberal than all the bible verse you can find. Mohammed's social justice agenda at the time was consistent with what he learned about the biblical Jesus. I can also vouch for that the hospitality I met in Morocco, an Islamic country was underrepresented. They took their five pillars seriously there. At least the people I became friends with. Americans can learn something from these Muslims.
Come back when you have had some more studies and travels on your back kid.
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