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Comments by "" (@TraditionalAnglican) on "The Mark 14 Torpedo - Failure is Like Onions" video.
AudieHolland - Well, given their destination, the NKVD might have let them get their coats...
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AudieHolland - Bullets are so messy, & Siberia could always use a few more “residents”...
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Michael Kaylor - The Germans had the same problem at the start of WW 2 - Hitler, Doenitz & Raeder just listened to the submariners who complained about “dummy rifles” in April-June, 1940. &, people within their “Torpedo Institute” noticed that certain managers were being escorted out of, or not showing up for, work in June & July, 1940. I’ll just say that noticing that the manager who had insisted that everything was perfect & that nothing needed to be tested had been reassigned to Dachau motivated those who were left to test the torpedoes & “get to the bottom of the problem”.
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Tamer 1 - I’m sure quite a few over at BofU must’ve thought they were getting new buttholes without benefit of anesthesia... 😱🤷🏼♂️
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boosuedon - That’s what should have happened. Instead, NONE of them ever faced a Courts Martial for their actions in this fiasco, & all of them kept their jobs. 😱🤦🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
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Colin Thomasson - I knew some survivors of Bataan who were on a Japanese Maru who heard the torpedo propellers followed by a clink (meaning the thing actually HIT the ship), but NO bang - Hence the fact that I met & knew these people in the 1990’s. 😱🤦🏼♂️😂🤷🏼♂️
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Samuel Thompson - But Admiral King wasn’t the only one responsible for that fiasco. Reinhard Hardegen (U-123) wrote that he felt obligated to mark the Navigable Channel (with ships) in New York Harbor, because the City of New York had so generously lit the city (& his targets) for him. Other German submariners talked about how easy it was to sink ships during Paukenschlag because of the way our coast was ablaze with light & how appallingly nonexistent & ineffective our ASW was.
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HungryCats - Nope. Not one of them was Court Martialed or lost his job.
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geoh7777 - The old Articles of War had plenty of things the people at BofO could have been tried for, & a few of these had “Death by hanging/firing squad” as the sentence upon conviction. I have no idea why the worst & most obstinate of those responsible for this weren’t Court Martialed...
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Pitt Brad - This is America, not the USSR or Nazi Germany! None of them were ever punished, & they all kept their jobs or were promoted. 😱🤦🏼♂️😡🤷🏼♂️
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Steve K - He came pretty close to doing that when the problems with German torpedoes became obvious in Apr/May, 1940. Quite a few of those who were insisting that the torpedoes were fine, & that no testing needed to be done, ended up in Dachau by the end of August.
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Frank DeMaris - IWC, the guilty parties should’ve been Court-Martialed for Dereliction of Duty, Negligence & whatever else the JAG could find in their equivalent of the UCMJ.
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BarryT1000 - I seem to recall some of those who had similarly failed German submariners being sent to Concentration Camps on the orders of Hitler himself after the Norwegian debacle (the one where a Knight’s Cross Holder had fired 11 torpedoes “at a veritable wall of ships” & had all of them fail). A few Courts Martial in mid-1941 after the situation had come to light & BofU had refused even to allow the most basic testing of, or fixes on, the Mk 14 family might have had a quite salutary effect & saved a lot of American lives while costing the Japanese a few dozen ships.
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ZerokillerOppel1 - None of them were ever Court Martialed, & they all kept their jobs.
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dcbanacek2 - But a lot of the problems with the M-16 were the result of Pentagon meddling with the design...😱🤦🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
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RonJohn63 - No.
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Edward Myers - No..😱🤦🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
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Colin Thomasson - I don’t think that’s fair, because Edward Pate described a HUGE “What if” that really would show just how much their obstinate refusals to admit that they might have a problem with these “dummy rifles” (What Gunther Prien called malfunctioning G-7e’s in May, 1940) & actually test these things cost us in lives lost & in ships not sunk.
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pd4165 - Even Japanese anti-submarine patrols were able to follow the tracks of fired torpedoes & depth charge the hapless submariners who had fired it - So, yes, we lost quite a few because of these faulty torpedoes.
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