Comments by "William Cattr" (@williamcattr267) on "Vietnam Loves American Booty; What Did the VPA Do With All The Captured Weapons?" video.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn Man, I must have ruffled some feathers with you! You wrote me a whole book as a response, and still failed to invalidate my point.
In any event, you understand where I am coming from on this issue; we need to stop sending American tax payer money to all of you freeloading foreigners who pay nothing in return.
Now let’s get into some of the so-called “facts” that you presented. They are definitely skewed to say the least, which is most likely a direct result of the communist propaganda that exists in your country….
You wrote: “US are having the worst high school education system even behind Vietnam 16 ranks. Most US college or university now a day are having 30% of foreign students.”
^^^Not completely true at all. As for the poorer urban school systems in large cities, yes, they are not properly funded (that’s because Washington politicians are too busy giving the money away rather than investing it here). But as for our private schools, they are some of the best school systems out there. As for our colleges? Absolutely right on! We have the best colleges on the planet bar none! After all, do you actually think an ambitious American student would want to come to Vietnam to earn a degree??? For that matter, would anyone else (a Canadian, German, Brazilian for example) want to come to Vietnam for an education? 😂
You wrote: “US are having the worst healthcare system even Vietnam are saving more people with health problems than US despite be the system in Vietnam is far behind US in term of technology and experiences.”
^^That is pure communist propaganda. You can be sure that nobody comes to Vietnam for medical treatment or for the so-called medical advancements. In fact, I have never heard of any particular hospital in Vietnam. But I am sure you have heard of the Mayo Clinic, or the Cleveland Clinic, which are very respected hospitals that are known all over the planet. Never heard of anyone from the Saudi royal family coming to Vietnam for medical service, but the sure do come to the Cleveland Clinic.
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/rankings-and-ratings/10-best-hospitals-in-the-world-ranked-by-newsweek.html
You wrote: “US are having the worse infrastructure in their even behind China now and Vietnam will surpass US in 20-30 years”
^^^Partly true, but mostly false. As I have said before, if America wants to keep sending all of you foreign freeloaders our tax dollars, then yes, what you contend could happen (though on a much smaller scale). By contrast, if we as American’s invest our tax dollars here at home; we will guarantee our infrastructure as one of the best. The choice is in the hands or our politicians; I just hope they wake up in time before they sell us all out. And if that is not feasible, then let American’s vote them out in the next election.
You wrote: “US are having the worst public transportation behind Japan 50 years, already are behind China and at this rate, some developing country like Vietnam, Philippines and Indonesia will have public high-speed train before US even did in 10 years.”
^^^First off, most people have cars here in the US, so we do not need a train transportation system beyond what we already have in place. However, we are on the path to getting the HyperLoop system, which means one could travel from Chicago to Cleveland in 32 minutes. And it is worth noting that we will soon be leading the way with making the transition from fossil fuel cars to electric.
You wrote: “5. US are having the highest death rate of malnutrition, even 45 times higher death rate than Vietnam.”
^^^Absolutely nonsense. In fact, there is not much to say to refute this silly claim of yours, aside from telling you to come to the US to see for yourself. Look, our rats, roaches, and mice eat better from any dumpster located behind any restaurant or grocery store from the sheer abundance of food that is thrown away compared to what people in Vietnam have have access to; we are a land of plenty. Malnutrition? Hardly. Even homeless people in American eat better than you do in Vietnam. Our people tower over your people. You are probably 5'0" and 110 pounds dripping wet. Us Americans? 6'0 and 220 pounds (or even bigger) is not hard to come by. I do not see any Vietnamese NFL Football players here in the U.S. I see plenty of Japanese baseball players here, but not in the NFL. You guys are just too small by comparison.
Look Nguyen, the Vietnamese communist party propaganda has you in a tight grip.
You wrote: “US are having the highest below poverty line rate at 15%, even poorer country like Vietnam only have 5.6% living below poverty line.”
^^^Well, not exactly. We have a high cost of living. What we as American’s would say is lousy pay at $10 per hour at Dunkin Doughnuts is probably middle class (or better) in your country. Why don’t you mention about the wealth of the upper crust of America??? How many people in your country get salaries like Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Robert De Niro, or Lebron James??? You get my point. Some of the wealthiest people on the planet live here in the U.S.
You wrote: “US are having the highest homeless rate and population than any country in the world, while Vietnam is one of the lowest.”
^^Absolutely a hot load of steaming, fly-strewn Vietnamese fecal matter. You really need to get out more, and for Pete's sake, shake off that Vietnamese communist brainwashed nonsense.
You wrote: “US are having the highest incarcerate in the world at 738 per 100,000 capita, 6 time higher than Vietnam.”
^^^And what is so odd or revealing about that? Someone breaks the law; they get prosecuted and go to jail. With the notion of freedom there comes free choices; not everyone makes the right choices. Nevertheless, in America, at least they get a fair trial. In Vietnam (and China), a defendant is already considered guilty by the communist party, and then subsequently executed. Start giving people in your country a fair trial, and you will soon see your numbers going up with the incarceration “facts” that you presented.
You wrote: “US are having the worst car in the world, 45% of their cars in their country are foreign brand and their cars can't be export to other countries, even Vietnam's new car brand called Vinfast are being import to US and Europe. Etc”
^^Oh, now this is a good one! 🤣🤣🤣😂😂 A “Vinfast”????? 🤣🤣 That sounds like some weight loss supplement! Something like "Nutra Slim." 🤣🤣
Worst cars? HARDLY!!! I have never even heard of a Vietnamese “Vinfast” until you mentioned it, let alone see one anywhere on the road (not even on TV). That must be the King Daddy of rice burners over there in your country. In any event, my experiences owning a Dodge, GM, or Ford vehicle is WAY cooler than any import; no two ways about it! The styling of the American cars is without equal. A close runner up would be some of the European imports (not Asian rice burners).
Just for entertainment and laughs though, I’d really love to see a “Vinfast” at the local race track against a Corvette, Mustang, or a Dodge Challenger! And as for work trucks? Please, no contest at all. A Ford F-250, Chevy 2500 will out haul anything you got (and look better doing it too). By the way, how much rice per gallon does a Vinfast get on the freeway? 🤣🤣🤣😂😂 This is a good future YouTube video idea for someone out there to compare a "Vinfast' (more 🤣🤣) with a Corvette or Tesla, smh. (I'm sorry, I can't help with more 😂😂😂😂).
Nguyen, you really need to brush up on your fact finding, son (and your English too). Stop being so gullible to party rhetoric Vietnam. You see, the Vietnamese communist party tells you what to think, whereas Americans get to do their own thinking for themselves. You ought to try that (you know, thinking for yourself), oh, but on second thought you might be arrested by your communist secret police/ Công an Nhân dân Việt Nam.
Yes, we as Americans really do need to put a halt to all of the financial waste that stems from sending our tax dollars overseas. We have helped all of you along up until this point, now we need to take the training wheels off and let you guys fend for yourselves for once.
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@cnn787-i9e We "have to feed them"? Well, actually, we don't need to do anything. You know, it would be like putting the training wheels on a bicycle for a 4-year-old; fast forward to when this 4-year-old is now a 40-year-old man and the training wheels are still on. You got to take the wheels off. You got to sink or swim at some point, can't have the U.S. carry the weight of foreigners for the rest of their lives. Otherwise, they might just as well have their countries occupied by us, add a few more stars to our flag for the "new states", and then they can pay taxes like Americans do. Sounds fair and reasonable to me.
It has been going on the better part of 50 years since the end of the Vietnam war. As for the so-called "lazy" SVA's in America? You got it all wrong; they are working their little fish frying, or dry cleaning business, and doing what other working Americans do, drum roll..........pay taxes like every other citizen. A novel idea, I know.
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@Rob You want to argue how exactly this "superpower" thing benefits the average American??? Seriously, 😂😂🤣 You’re joking, right? Because I’ll tell you what, it only benefits the rich and most American’s are not in that category. Don’t believe the hype of what people in your county think is that all American’s are movie stars with million-dollar mansions and Bentley's in different colors. Try visiting any U.S. major city like Cleveland, Detroit, Dallas, Oakland, etc. You’d have a tough time selling this nonsensical point on yours to a working-class mother and father who had to bury their 20-year-old son, or who must take care of a disabled son/daughter from this world police action.
Tell you what then; why don't you come here to the U.S., become a citizen, and then go work at Target or Walmart for a measly $11 bucks an hour on 40 hours (if you are lucky to get full time) and then let's reassess your notion of the good life in America because of superpower status. Yeah, try that on raising a family too. You clearly know nothing of what you are talking about.
So, by all means, tell me all about this point that you like to "argue” (I like a good debate). And you are from where??? UK, Canada???? Just know what you are talking about.
And Trump not starting wars? And your point is??? Look, wanting to get out of Afghanistan is not the same thing as actually getting out of Afghanistan, so you drive a moot point here on Trump.
America can still be a Superpower with all the points that I have raised.
Let me rehash for you:
Instead of giveaways for arms and other hardware for people in these other countries, I say let everyone pay twice the value of this merchandise and let's help eliminate poverty here in the U.S. Put more money into communities that are lacking in opportunities.
It is high time for other countries (your country too) that benefits directly from American's "World Police" status and operations. Yeah, let the U.K. France, Germany, Italy takes care of European and middle east security and let Japan, Australia, New Zealand take care of the Asian theatre. I am ALL FOR IT.
Because as far as I am concerned, the Monroe Doctrine didn't include the whole planet and outer space, so let’s keep things in perspective here.
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@cnn787-i9e Oh, I know they do.
I really hope they would stop though. It is almost like having home or auto insurance that you pay for every month, except the insurance company (in this case the U.S. Government) is going to give free policies and coverage to those who do not pay (in this case the foreigners that do not pay taxes).
I read somewhere that it ( I believe it was the cost of operations in Afghanistan) cost the U.S. approximately $8,000,000 per day. Why not take that same $8,000,000 per day (since evidentially they can spare it) and give it to a major American city each and every day. Education would likely improve, crime would go down, depilated houses could be torn down and rebuilt, and it would give people in the community a sense of calm that something positive is being done to improve the community. But no, all the government wants is taxes, taxes, and more taxes so they can waste it on some useless foreign support. You'd think that the foreign governments were voting for our politicians and paying their salaries.
I mean, I don't see any foreign governments giving their tax dollars to support improvement initiatives here in the Untied States at the cost of their tax base in their countries.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn No kidding; you're not telling me anything that I don't already know. With the sheer amount of American tax payer funds given away to foreign nations each and every single day, sure, they love us like no other.
Instead of giving military equipment, money, and yes, American military lives away in these foreign expeditions, why don't the American politicians try to win over the American people by routing that same money into domestic issues such as community building and improving schools in urban areas?
It's not like people in Vietnam or South Korea pay taxes to the American government, or vote for them at election time. Meanwhile, the American politicians keep coming to John and Jane taxpayer for more money to give away. This would be tantamount to having insurance policy holders pay a monthly premium for coverage, but then let people without coverage get free plans.
If foreigners want a piece of America's pie of propensity, then they can chip in with tax money to participate.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn Huh???
Look, kid....
You are contradicting yourself...
You wrote: "I don't thinks you guy are 220lbs in average, you have to be 440lbs in average since 75% of your adult population are over weight and 42% are obese "
^^^So which is it? Are Americans malnourished (as you earlier stated) or grossly overweight at 440lbs??? Either way, the average American male is much more powerfully built than the little scrawny, boney, fellas like you over there in Vietnam. 🤣😄 Besides, I don't know where you get all of your percentage statistics from regarding weight, so why don't you include a source link? In any evert, I know I am rocking a serious physique working out 2 hours a day, 4 days a week. I have more muscle mass in my one forearm than you have on your entire body, boy.
And your statement about Walmart? What? Ok, that literally made no sense whatsoever. However, I suppose it may be something worthwhile in your socialist controlled mind. Next, they will be opening a series of Walmart stores in Vietnam. And you know what? YOU would be first clown in line to buy clothes from the boy's department to fit your scrawny little frame, and grab a bottle of soy sauce while you are at it.
As for some side show freak action at the circus, I'll bet both of your Grandmothers were most likely some cheap, sideshow freak action for a dozen or more drunk American G.I's during the 1960's! 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂 Those Vietnamese girls would do ANYTHING for a few bucks lying on their backs for 10 minutes to put a smile on these guy's face. "Oh, me love you long time, G.I." LOL!!!!😂😂
Check this out: https://youtu.be/EwIEUflY6YI?t=8
I like the depiction on the billboard in that movie clip of the figure with squinting eyes and big teeth that we all know you zipperheads are good for! 🤣🤣 And yes, everyone in Vietnam seems to be named "Nyguyen."
5"9?? Really? You are quite the giant in your country! lol.😂🤣 You could be on the Vietnamese basketball team, and then you could come over here for an exhibition game against the Miami Heat or the Dallas Mavericks. (That was sarcasm by the way...). Any local elementary school here in the U.S. has 14-year-olds bigger than you guys.
But seriously, there are plenty of women in America that are 5'9" or taller. My aunt is 5'11. On the other hand, 5'9" for a man in America is a bit on the short side.
In any case, you probably can't grow any facial hair like most men in your culture (aside from a few stray hairs and some peach fuzz), whereas I have been shaving since the age of 13 (with a full beard at 18).
You are clearly under the control of the Vietnamese communist party mind control agenda. Yes, they have you captivated by propaganda and fear.
At the tender age of 21, you are too inexperienced with life to know any better. By this point, I have lived double your lifetime, and I have lived in America from birth to the present. What you contend as "factual" about America simply does not reflect the reality that I see everyday in America.
You probably have never even left your little village tending water buffalo and wearing your nón lá on your father's farm, let alone ever having traveled to a prosperous country like America.
And for someone like myself that has two college degrees (graduating with a third degree next year), you are in over your head if you want to debate me on the topics that you foolishly presented. You simply lack life experience and education, kid.
You have much to learn about life (and everything else for that matter).
You can see today how communism is grossly inferior to democracy. Just look at North Korea vs. South Korea. Life is much better in South Korea. For that matter, life in South Korea is probably better than your standard of living in Vietnam.
Yes, I understand your situation in a repressive socialist country, so I know you may not want to admit that you are wrong for fear of the secret police monitoring your internet activity for antigovernmental statements. But for me, I do not have to lie about my government or lie about the prosperity in America. I am free to write anything good or bad about my government. And you know what? Nobody with a badge is going to come and take me to a forced labor camp (or worse) for doing it. You gotta love the 1st Amendment right that is enjoyed over here in the U.S.
So long, squirt...you bore me with your broken English, imbecilic commentary, and your pitiful farm/communist inspired intellect. Google Translate isn't doing you any favors.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn So, that is your answer to not having Pell Grants in Vietnam? lol. That is what I thought.
$1,000,000 that is a big number! Considering all one needs is less than $75,000 for a bachelor's degree in America.
Not even the ivy league colleges like Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) cost that much.
Sounds like you accessed some click bait, because the most debt I have heard of from someone is $58,000, which is WAY LESS than $1,000,000.
Nguyen, don't be so gullible.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn
I still disagreed with your absurd notion that communism is beneficial to people, and that people will enjoy the most freedom and prosperity under this outdated system of governance. It just isn’t so, my man.
The undertone from most of your statements seem to center more on anti-Americanism instead of anti-democracy. Any social issues and points that you raised in relation to riots, etc. do not bear relevance to societal issues in other democratic countries (Canada or Norway to name a few). By contrast, my debate stance centers on an anti-communist position instead of an anti-Vietnamese stance. All you can do is focus on perceived negatives (more like communist party exaggerations) of some of the downsides of democracy in America.
Nevertheless, as I have maintained on previous statements to you, the good points of democracy FAR outweigh the negatives. Communism on the other hand? Nothing good at all of this political system stands out as a decisive and overwhelming advantage.
The facts that I presented stand; fewer and fewer communist societies are in existence today. If it was so good of a political option, then it would stand to reason that more and more countries would adopt it.
We have seen from numerous examples of how vital it is to have free trade. The most successful communist countries are those (like China) that have adopted some of the economic principles utilized in democratic countries. On the flip side, North Korea stands out as one of the more faithful in terms of maintaining their Marxist principles, although it comes at the cost of economic prosperity. South Korean citizens enjoy tremendous advantages economically, socially, and in quality of life issues overall.
The advancements of human rights are paramount in the furtherance of a nation’s prosperity. You can argue all that brainwashed commie nonsense of how people in communist Vietnam have the most freedom (you clearly don't).
Apparently, your idea of freedom differs considerably from mine and others who endeavor to get the most out of life. Being able to practice your religious preferences, or exercising your right to free speech without intimidation tactics from the government is what true freedom really is.
Communist governments exert strict control over radio and television broadcasts (Vietnam is certainly no exception to this restrictive practice).
What concern is it of the government to decide if a certain business(s) have employees who wish to unionize so that they can bargain for better wages and benefits? Why should the government decide? In America, it is a choice to unionize if workers wish to do so.
Are you going to deny this….
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/vietnam#
^^Any truth to this, or are you going to deny it?
And while there is no doubt that some retirees (few rather than many) from a democratic country may move to a country that has a much lower cost and standard of living (communist Vietnam is a fitting example), it is only because their retirement funds will go much further.
American money goes a long way in places like Mexico too, and it is no wonder than some retired Americans move there to stretch their retirement money; doesn’t necessarily mean that Mexico is a better place to live. Some wealthy Americans go there to retire, whereas impoverished Mexican’s are trying to get into America for the better opportunities (and they are not even communist nation).
Communist countries are notaries for their abuse of human civil liberties. You can claim to the contrary, but that would make you either delusional, or an outright liar. I have been around too long to have some wet behind the ears 21-year-old pull the wool over my eyes and tell me everything is milk and honey in a communist regime.
Just to indulge you a little on this silly topic, let’s imagine for one disturbing (and equally depressing) second that America became communist. Well, there goes my freedom of liberty, right to bear arms, access to freedom of the press, and I lose everything I have. And for the legal system? The communist state has already decided your guilt and punishment beforehand in their Kangaroo court system. If that was on the horizon for America’s political future, count me on the first flight out of there to Montreal, Canada! I’ll N-E-V-E-R live under a communist system anywhere! I am definitely a staunch anti-communist.
Fascism would be a better option to communism if one were faced with making an extreme choice where democracy is not an option.
In any event, let’s agree to disagree on this issue. You continue to live at a much lower living standard and wage, and I will continue to enjoy access to better education, housing, wages, benefits, and free exercise of religion, speech, along with all the other finer advantages of democracy. Sounds fair to me.
Oh, how is your 401k doing? I am sure you have one of those, right? (that was sarcasm by the way).
Doubtful you even know what a 401k is (without doing a quick search on the internet).
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn You say he is "highly educated"? Did he receive that so-called "high education" in Vietnam or the U.S.? If in the U.S, then you just disproved your own point. In any event, who ever said he is an expert on the subject?
No possible way that would be a true statement. How many people from the U.S. (or anywhere for that matter) are skipping past a education in the U.S. to come to Vietnam instead?
And if you claim the Vietnamese education system is better than that in America, in what ways? Be specific, since at the tender age of 21, and with so much life experience, you know better than anyone about this subject matter. 😂
Anyways, this article link below refutes your claim and that of the American idiot in the video, who apparently is not that educated at all (must have received his education in Vietnam)..
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/education-rankings-by-country
^^Vietnam is not even mentioned. Some sources have claimed either Canada or the U.K. as having the best educational system. This must be in reference to elementary school. As for colleges, nope. America holds the edge in this category. Princeton, Yale, Harvard University? No equals on the planet, certainly not in Vietnam.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn
In broken English, you wrote: "Since when Vietnam pay taxes to American?"
I never said they did, and whether a country has an American military base or not is not a precursor to my point. But any country who gets money from the U.S. should pay taxes to America. That is more than fair. I said it before, and I will say it AGAIN to you: American tax dollars (and military lives for that matter) should not be wasted outside our borders. Instead, that tax money should be spent here in the U.S. building jobs and promoting community development.
Here, I will make it real s-i-m-p-l-e for you by using an analogy. If you pay home insurance or car insurance, this is because you pay the insurance company a monthly payment to have coverage in the event your house burns down or your car gets wrecked (you still with me here?), and the insurance company will replace these items so long as you have been paying your monthly dues. Now, how fair would it be if that same insurance company (in this case America) decided it would give out free policy and coverage to those without a paid policy? Wouldn't be fair at all. Soon, the paying policy holders would say, "I want free coverage too." This analogy is comparable to the fact that American tax payers pay taxes to our Government, with the general idea that we will have our needs satisfied here at home. But no, somehow or another the American politicians want to give out "free coverage" to supplying all the wants and needs of foreign countries. The U.S. Government owes all that it can do for it's citizens (the voting base), not non-voting, non-tax paying foreigners. These countries don't pay anything (certainly not on the same level of return). Yeah, why don't all these countries chip in and help pay down the national deficient that is climbing over here on Uncle Sam's tab? Here is a better idea: If the American politicians want to give away tax dollars, well then, they can reduce the taxes of Americans. Sounds more than fair to me. But no, they want to raise tax dollars and the like, and yet still give money and support to foreign governments.
American "Nation Building" on the planet needs to become "Community Building" here in the U.S.
You see son, you don't pay attention, and that is part of your problem.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn Well, you do keep coming back to me, no??? You are free to quit writing me on here anytime you like. After all, you have noting to gain by going back and forth with me on here. I won't budge so much as a hair on my points, and I see you are equally determined to believe your party propaganda (that is your choice).
Your wrote: "45 times more than Vietnamese from what you eat in US, food in Vietnam are much tastier and healthier than what you can afforded to eat in US, health and height in Vietnam are getting improved while Americans are going down."
^Where do you come up with this nonsense???? You guys eat cats and dogs, and you claim that is tastier??? What???
And as for "45 times more than Vietnamese..." to die? We have more people over the age of 100 than you do. For those in the U.S. that want to abuse their life span by eating and smoking, well, the same could be said for those who make poor lifestyle habits in your country.
As for "American food", well, again kid, you are wrong. America is multi-cultural, and this even includes the food. Yes, they have soul food, Chinese, Japanese, (and yes, even Vietnamese), Indian, Italian, Middle Eastern food, etc. Our menu really reflects the various cultures that make up this great country. Had I not shared this point with you, you would not even know what quote "American food" is. This is how narrow-minded you are. Let me guess, you just assume "American food" is McDonalds', Burger King, or Pizza Hut, right? WRONG! There is an abundance of food and choices for one to dine on.
So like I said before, and I will say it again; YOU have a lot to learn. You need to get ot more and see the world.
Communism is a dying political system. I remember with great joy when the Soviet Union, East Germany, and all the eastern bloc communist countries gave up their repressive system. And for China? They modified their system to incorporate components of capitalism. Cuba will be going next...wait and see.
Here: Vietnamese seek asylum in U.S.
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/media/resettling-vietnamese-refugees-united-states/
2.2 million of your people live in the U.S. And you know what, son? They would be here in the U.S. if life was all milk and honey in socialist Vietnam. And that is just common sense.
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/facts-for-features/2020/aian.html#:~:text=The%20Chinese%20(except%20Taiwanese)%20population,and%20Japanese%20(1.5%20million).
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn Well of course they do that when they are members of the communist party. At least I am free to laugh too without fear of punishment by my Government. As for you guys in Vietnam??? You laugh or say something negative about your government (you know, tell the truth about how things suck over there), and they will put you in a labor camp or shoot you. Nothing too funny about that. So, clicking on that link proves nothing except that the Vietnamese Communist Party has a Facebook page to put matrial on. I am sure North Korea makes some of the same baseless and brainless assertions that you do about "real freedom" in a repressive socialist country.
By the way, I am still waiting for a response to your earlier comment about the lack of freedom here in the U.S. compared to your country. So, go ahead and tell me what you can do legally in your country that I cannot do in my country. 😂 Please, I know this is going to be good for laughs if nothing else!
As for me: I can vote for my leaders, and I can also protest and criticize them. I can move anywhere I want, be it in a different state or another country. I can also work whatever job I want, or buy a home (or any number of homes), buy whatever car I want, choose my own insurance, eat where I want, get married and have has many children as I want, go buy an airplane. Heck, if I go and pay the $200 Federal Tax Stamp, I can even go buy a machine gun. The sky is the limit over here in the U.S. That is why some of the wealthiest people on the planet live here. And as for the poor in the U.S? They would be middle class citizens in some of the banana republics (or in your case, "rice republics").
If one absolutely had to move to a communist country (and thank God that is not a issue to decide), I believe most people would go to China, not Vietnam. The food in China is better for one, better sanitation, and economic propensity is as good as it gets in a communist country.
Thankfully, I will never be pressed to make a decision to move to a socialist country.
Here, read this and form your own opinion:
https://www.foxnews.com/world/world-remaining-communist-countries-economics
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn
Everything in this stupid narrative that you wasted space with means nothing. If you really have private business, well, guess what moron? That would make you just like us in America. There are over 100 internet service providers in America, and you know what? They are privately owned. Your internet is owned and closely monitored by the government.
You know that communism is repressive state (doesn't take a genius to figure it out), that is why they are willing to shoot people for leaving. In America, not only are we free to leave, heck, 10,000 Mexicans a day are going across the border INTO the U.S.
Anyways, you wrote: "Americans don't even trust your own thinking the pandemic is just another political hoax."
^With a statement like that, now I am convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a imbecile. A "hoax" you say? Really? I know people who had the covid virus. They even had the same symptoms that the CDC informed everyone of. And a hoax by who? Who is going to benefit from promoting a hoax like that? They can make up the fevers, along with the loss of the sensation of taste that people experienced. You can go anywhere on the planet and see people with masks on. I suppose you are dumb enough to believe that the pandemic of 1918 was a hoax as well? I suppose that the plague of the 1300's was a hoax too, right? Wake up stupid. Plagues and pestilences do in fact cause illness and death in humanity.
Nguyen, you really are not that intelligent. You make baseless and imbecilic assertions as though they were facts. Look, you are just 21 years old with a village level education trying to debate with someone like me that has two (2) college degrees (earned in America, of course), and I am on track to earn a third one at the end of next year. What credentials do you have, moron? You probably still live at home with your diminutive parents, and I am a grown man twice your age with house and a car. You probably are still a virgin and believe in "Ghost Money for Ancestors." 😂
You trust your own government because they demand that you trust them. You are not free to speak out against them, and you know this very well. They will arrest you, and then send you for some "political reeducation", which is just a euphemism for some fate reserved for criminals.
You're a buffoon, a clown, and someone not even close to my level of education and life experience. You have much to learn about life, Nguyen. You are a prime example of how communism has mind control over the people. There are two kinds of people in your society: those that are too stupid and brainwashed to think for themselves, and the second category are those that are too scared to speak out for fear of reprisals (that fear is well-founded).
Still want to waste time with me on here, day after day? What, do you actually think you will make a communist out of me? NOT!. You'll soon be extolling the virtues of democracy long before that happens.
We will just have to agree to disagree. I served in the military, and have lived twice your life with the freedom to come and go as I please. With a passport in hand, I can go wherever I want. Can you say the same for yourself? I didn't think so. Few Europeans were crying when communism came crashing down in the Warsaw Pact countries. Cuba will be next.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn You believe Trump? The man is a habitual liar. I wouldn't believe him if he told me water was wet.
Oh, "kicked out of Vietnam"...
Well try this source then...
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/Cascade/index.html?appid=4abb0d406b784d8984784ed18691266a
If life in a communist Vietnam was such a great thing, then why were the former South Vietnamese so eager to flee?
They were wise to flee, because your people would have killed them in cold blood.
By historical contrast, our own civil war (1861-1865) resulted in nobody being executed. Amnesty was granted to all. In fact, the confederate soldiers were granted generous surrender terms, and these soldiers were allowed to keep their weapons and horses. Yes, even the Confederate President Jefferson Davis was set free after his arrest; he was never formally charged for treason.
Got news for you, kid. When a government has to resort to murder to keep people in order, then you can be sure it is a repressive regime. Cambodia's Khmer Rouge under Pol Pot during the 1970's is a fitting example of what communism represents. But you'll say, "that is a hoax." Sure, everything is a "hoax" when it does not support your communist narrative. And when something does support communism, then you blindly embrace it as the absolute truth. Wake up, stupid! The time for you playing ostrich with your head in the sand is far over.
You remind me of the holocaust deniers. Yes, there are actually people out there that think Hitler was a saint, and that the murder of 6 million people never happened.
Look, you have no credibility with me at all. You are a mere child at 21, and you have no advanced education or life experience beyond your father's farm. You trying to debate me on something you clearly know nothing about is laughable.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn "Ha, Ha" I'd rather eat fast food (not that I do all that much) instead of eating a cat or dog. YUCK! 🤢Disgusting. You might as well eat a rat. Your diet explains why "42%" of your population is small, skinny, and weak. For me? An Asian size XL shirt is too small for me. I'm just too buff for that.
By the way, where is your source for this so-called "42% of American adults being obese???? Did you forget that in one of your earlier posts to me on here you made the baseless assertion that American's were suffering from "malnutrition." This is an obvious contradiction on your part.
I know I am not obese, that's for sure. I am a physical fitness guru. I eat clean food, fresh vegetables, lean fish (no pork, no organs), and I consume red meat sparingly. This all fuels a productive workout at my own home gym. All this equipment that I have probably cost $3,500, and it clearly has served me well.
You go on and keep enjoying your grossly inferior communist system (and have nothing in life), and I will continue to enjoy the good life in America, where the sky is the limit.
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I noticed that you didn’t want to take up the challenge of saying something derogatory about your leaders. I gave you a few fitting examples to use. What didn’t you give it a try? Are you scared of the Vietnamese security police? After all, nobody has more freedom than those in communist Vietnam (at least your warped mind), so what do you have to lose?
Yes, by all means, give it a try. Don’t use a VPN or any IP address masking tricks to hide your IP address, just do it straight from your browser and hit “enter” when finished. And for an extra bonus, why not go ahead and say something about that cat/dog eating imbecile Ho Chi Minh.
When the Vietnamese Security coming kicking your door in, just tell them that you wanted to prove to some capitalist American in the comment section on YouTube that you have more freedom than Americans do. I am sure that not only will they understand your intent, but they will applaud you for your free-thinking approach. Just write about how Trần Thị Nguyệt Thu looks like a cross-dressing man freak.
Maybe you took your nation’s flag, doused it in gasoline, and set it on fire in view of the public. Of course, you can do that, no? (sarcasm). I can! You bet! As I said before, I can say whatever the heck I want about any leader in America (past or present), and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Furthermore, if I wanted to take the assault rifle of my choice and sling it over my shoulder and walk down the street at high noon, I would be free to do so based on my 2nd Amendment Right (so long as I don’t aim it or threaten anyone with it) based on Constitutional Carry. If any American wants to burn their flag in protest, they are well within the boundaries of free speech to do so. So long as I do not make a death threat towards our leaders; any insult and criticism of our leadership is fair game. In fact, I took frequent liberties to insult and criticize that orange-glowing moron, that self-important vainglorious imbecile Trump, and mentioned his cowardly dodging of military service. So, for you to say that you have more freedoms than those of us in America is just laughable; you live in a dream world of fairy tale socialist nonsense.
It is clear that not even you believe that you have more freedom than those of us in the United States of America. Anytime you hear of “land of the free”, it is almost always in reference to America, and it never is in reference to Vietnam.
Look Nguyen, you can continue to walk with the blind if you choose, but as for me, my eyes are wide open to the reality in America, and my eyes are equally open to reality in repressive regimes like you have. I have never once heard anyone that is dissatisfied with the American way of life say that they are going to pack up and move to Vietnam for the abundance of opportunities that are there. They would not only be free to say this (or write it for that matter), they would be more than free to put word into action and do it.
Look at the below link and see how little and tiny Nguyễn Xuân Phúc looks compared to our orange former president!
What is he about 5’1”??? He looks like he is craving a tabby cat soup sandwich with a side of fried dog legs with soy sauce and bean sprouts!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguy%E1%BB%85n_Xu%C3%A2n_Ph%C3%BAc#/media/File:President_Trump's_Trip_to_Vietnam_(47176536782).jpg
Grow a backbone, and make an insult of your leaders on here. You have (😂) freedom of speech in Vietnam.
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Your sense of logic is seriously flawed if not outright imbecilic, Nguyen.
It is funny how you come up with some absurd figure of “30 million killed by the U.S.”, yet you have no proof or source to support this unrealistic figure.
So, tell me, what country lost 30 million killed to the U.S. and in what conflict(s)??? Ok, for that matter, what series of countries combined have lost 30 million people to the U.S.?
Dropping the atomic bomb on Japan in 1945 didn’t even come close to that crude figure that you presented. A figure of 30 million people is quite a large number, which would cover almost all of those killed on all sides in WWII (military and civilian).
It is clear that you believe every bit of nonsense that your communist party spoon feeds your feeble mind. You ought to fact check EVERY claim that they ever made.
Pol Pot’s regime didn’t even come close to 30 million. And regardless of the actual figure of people killed by the Khmer Rouge in the 1970’s, you make it out like the U.S. is somehow responsible. I can assure you they were not. I can be honest and say that the U.S. has provided support for governments that are a bit on the unsavory side to be sure, but it was for use as a counterweight to the opposition that the U.S. political agenda was facing at that time. If Vietnam hadn’t invaded Cambodia, then there would have been no support from the U.S. However, China may still have supported them, and they did in fact provide the majority of support for Cambodia. But because they are fellow communists like you, they get a pass.
One fitting example of support provided for a government was our support of the Soviet Union in WWII. Yeah, Stalin was just as complicit as Hitler for invading Poland.
You say Hitler was evil? Yes, he invaded Poland, and the Soviet Union invaded Poland from the east. This is tantamount to one man robbing a bank though the front door, and then ten minutes later a second man robbed the same bank through the back door; both are equally guilty.
Had it been up to me in that era, I would have not given Russia any support. More people died by Stalin’s regime than even the Hitler regime murdered. Without support from the western allies, it is more than likely the Hitler’s military would have crushed the Soviet Union.
Nguyen, you are just a small-minded, socialist peasant farm boy with no education living at home with his parents, who in turn live at home with your grandparents. At 21-years-old, you are still just a mere kid with no life experience at all compared to me, and you don’t know your backside from a hole in the ground.
And the fact that you eat cats and dogs just illustrates what a savage you really are. If there is one bit of freedom in Vietnam that you have that we do not, it is the ability to eat cats and dogs! Lol. Yeah, we can’t do that in the U.S. due to the fact that this type of activity is illegal (not that we are missing out on anything).
Fortunately, cat and dog consumption in Asia is becoming less common as those governments come to terms with the fact that this action is not what intelligent people do. That sort of barbaric stuff is what people in a famine crisis would resort to in order to sustain themselves. Savages on the other hand? They eat whatever crawls (including each other if the opportunity arises).
Yeah, “we have more freedom in Vietnam than those of you in America” statement by you is just laughable, and pitiful that you are so brain washed by the socialist propaganda.
I always get a kick out of whenever communist countries title themselves, “democratic republic of…” What is so democratic about communism and state owned property? Nothing at all.
Here, view an example of free speech in America:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE-KUvF7SZ0
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn Biden is quite a bit different than Trump. For one, he acts like a grown up, and secondly, he is not a prolific liar like Trump. And unlike Trump, Biden will not instigate a riot at the U.S. Capital. Oh yes, you didn't hear about that one, did you? January 6th.
Interesting that Biden/Harris released their 2020 tax returns, but we are still waiting on Trump's 2016 tax returns that he said he would release during his first term in office (he later reneged of course).
You wrote, "did you see his sniffing and touching on young girls? "
^^^ Oh really now? Is that the latest from the Vietnamese communist propaganda funnel? If there was any truth to that child molesting allegation, he would have been criminally charged, and his political career would be over.
Besides, you don't know what your political leaders do behind closed doors. Believe me, they are no saints to be sure. Yes, that is one of the vast differences compared to communist countries; they have no free speech and political leaders can not be criticized by the public. What, you still don't get that? You are worse off than I thought, Nguyen.
You wrote, "With this kind of circus show, why would we want to adopt democracy to our country then?"
Call it what you like, but it would still be better than living under some repressive, backwards country that still feeds on cats and dogs like uneducated savages.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn Well then, you do not know enough about Stalin, whereas I do from the countless research over the years (years that exceed your time on this planet).
How about the Soviet imposed famine of 1932? You didn't bring that up, and that is just another example of how little you actually know about history compared to me. And no, it was not a genuine famine, but rather a more deliberate act on Stalin's part. It would be a safe bet to say that Stalin could have been responsible for 9 million deaths. So, regardless if it was 9 million, 20 million, or 30 million, does that make him any less of a monster?
Your summary of the population of the USSR and what could have taken place during those years is flawed. I got news for you, communist countries do not like to release figures that showcase their criminal acts against their own people (it's not good for their propaganda business). So, you would not have access to that information. The mere fact that anything of substance came out at all on this subject was most likely due to a defector. Recall that Stalin was in power until 1953.
So, as I stated in my previous post to you, not only did your friend Stalin invade Poland just as Hitler did, Stalin was also responsible for killing approximately 22,000 Polish military officers in 1940 at the Katyn massacre. Never heard of that one, eh? But, you communists are good for killing off the opposition after they surrender. Doesn't matter if they are Asian, or European communists, you guys are all cut from the same cloth.
I see you still won't make any derogatory comments about your leaders on here. You would be wise not to do so. You don't have freedom of speech such as that in the U.S. By contrast, I can tell any political leader (past or present) to go to hell if I want. I am free to give them the middle finger as their motorcade passes by on Pennsylvania Avenue if I so desire.
You didn't like my negative comments about your party comrade Stalin? Look, he is just as much a murderer as was Hitler himself. Stalin was responsible for quite of few of his own military deaths. Yes, having penial brigades act as mine clearing crews by having them march through the mine fields to detonate the mines with their feet. After this, then he would send in his guards divisions.
Any famine in the U.S. never resulted in "millions of deaths." Again, your figures are wrong. Under the capitalist approach, the government puts together resources and people get fed. Churches also feed people (you guys hate religion, I know).
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Well, the Supreme Soviet didn't do enough then....
Nguyen, your continued attempts to justify communism to me have failed repeatedly.
You are a classic case of someone with a severe case of Stockholm Syndrome. How much more of your time do you wish to waste on here with me? A week, two weeks, several months, five years?? Regardless of how long you want to give it a go, I will NOT be swayed by your arguments that communism is a good thing for people or the world, and I will steadfastly rebuff your attempts to do so. It is a lesson in futility for you.
While I can admit that no government is not without its flaws (including democracy), I do believe that democracy is as good as it can get, at least until someone can come up with something better. Regardless of what that “something better” is as it relates to a more efficient form of government, it is clear that the rights of free speech (good or bad about the country or leaders), the right to assemble in public, the right to exercise freedom of religion, along with protection against cruel and unusual punishment, and the right to due process in a court of law will always be the cornerstone of what a successful government can be. Communism lacks these traits across the board.
You know it as well as I do that you can’t say anything critical about your government, its leaders online or in person. Evidently, you can’t say anything critical about Russia’s past communist leadership too. Stalin was the most murderous of them all, yet you back him up with compliments. Stalin was a psychopath willing to kill anyone. Consider his foolish purge of the military leadership in the 1930’s. This had a devastating effect during the early days of the German invasion in June of 1941. The German Army got to within 10 miles of Moscow in just a few months. If Hitler had been a communist instead of a Nazi, you would not have criticized him either.
Communism is keeping your country behind the times, Nguyen. Let me know when Vietnam gets to go to the moon (a feat we did over 50 years ago during the days of black and white television broadcasts). We’ll be the first to put a man on Mars, yes, even before China does.
In America there are many political factions that are allowed to exist without fear of reprisal by the U.S. government.
During the 1920’s when communism was almost fashionable with any number of countries in the world, the U.S. had communists that were active in trying to get the U.S. to become communist society; luckily they failed.
https://fee.org/articles/why-communism-failed/
As for Vietnam as it exists from the 1970’s until now? No chance that any political party (aside from the communist party) is permitted to exist in Vietnam. It is illegal as you well know.
Russia is better off now than it was before 1991; however, it still has some elements of corruption from officials that were hardline communists (such as Putin). All of the European countries that had communism are better off with the democracy that they now enjoy. Germany is now quite profitable, and it is one of the wealthiest members of the European Union since being reunified with East Germany.
The evidence speaks for itself that communism is a failure. And you know what? If China (a communist country in name only) didn’t adopt elements of democracy and free trade, they would be just as backwards and impoverished as North Korea or Vietnam now.
I noticed that part of the modus operandi whenever a communist party seizes power is they always seek out and kill off the intellectuals and the previous government officials. Apparently, they do not find stupid people like yourself to be a threat to their system governance. After all, it was a movement by the peasant class, those that are uneducated and eager to blindly serve their communist masters.
So, you go on ahead and continue to walk with the blind and enjoy being a yes man to whatever your government demands of you.
Oh, and eat your dog burgers, and gobble down a warm bowl of cat noodle soup if you like. I’ll bet you have something similar to what a Caesar salad is in America, except you have a Dog Meat Caesar Salad with croutons. Perhaps some barbeque Tabby Cat Ribs with Smoky Sauce! (barffff). Fried Poodle legs, anyone? (more barffff , 🤢🤢 wrenching guts out).
Oh yes, remember you were talking all that nonsense about human longevity in Vietnam and the lack of it in America?
Hummm….
Hate to break it to you, but see for yourself….
https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+the+lifespan+in+vietnam&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS863US863&oq=what+is+the+lifespan+in+vietnam&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160l2.7028j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Even Thailand is ahead of you folks in Vietnam with the longevity curve.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn What is so unique about that story? Do you actually expect me to believe that murder does not happen at all in Vietnam?
People who kill people in America can get the death penalty too (for capital offenses). Nevertheless, there is an appeals process to consider.
Ever hear of the "The Innocence Project"??? Of course you haven't! Nothing like someone being wrongfully convicted and then executed, right? All for a crime they may not have committed. No, in Vietnam they just go ahead and execute everyone convicted, and this is because they "never get it wrong", right? 😂😂😂 The "Great Leader" is all knowing and never makes errors in judgement.
Got news for you, my young, very limited intellectual, socialist "friend', people are fallible, and I don't care what country you want to name. People get facts wrong and innocent people get punished for it.
https://innocenceproject.org/
Man get's new trial after spending decades in prison.
https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2020/05/cleveland-man-released-from-prison-after-winning-new-trial-in-wifes-1974-slaying-that-he-says-he-didnt-commit.html
Man executed 4 years ago for a murder that was later determined by DNA that cleared him of the crime.
https://www.cbs58.com/news/he-was-executed-for-murder-4-years-ago-now-someone-elses-dna-has-been-found-on-the-murder-weapon
You know nothing about law, whereas I do. As one who worked in as a police official for over 11 years (full time), I can tell you first had that the courts often rely upon this thing called "eye witness testimony" when determining a person's guilt. And we know from phycology studies, that people due to time and space and get it wrong when identifying someone as the criminal.
You need to get an education, Nguyen.
And one more thing; you still haven't named any rights and privileges that exist in Vietnam (or any communist country for that matter) that we do not have in the U.S.
Can you speak out about the government? Yes/No???
Can you burn your nation's flag as a means of protest out in full view of the public? Yes/No
Can you start (or join) a political party that is NOT communist in your country? Yes/No
I can do all the above and more! 😁
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn You say, "on the government." How about YOUR government. Calm, polite? lol, yeah, I don't have to be polite or calm about my government. I can even call them liars if I like.
"Too much freedom..." No such thing. You are either free or you are not. You have no freedom to do what can be accomplished in a democracy.
I can vote Democratic or Republican, or even Green party if I like. I am not bound to any party.
You said earlier that I am a racist? That reference to BLM is as about racist as it gets. It sure doesn't stand for "Burn, Loot, Kill", more like Black Lives Matter.
You talk about looting and setting things on fire in protests, well, how about the property that was destroyed by YOUR communist buddies and the people that they kill when they take power in a country??? Your take over of Hue city was quite destructive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_at_Hu%E1%BA%BF
And yes, they have a right to protest.
600,000 Americas died? From what? Covid 19 is reported to have killed approximately 500,000 out of a population of 370 million. Largely because that imbecile Trump wanted to politicize it and claimed it was a hoax (just like you did). Trump later shifted course on this. People didn't riot about masks, they were protesting George Floyd and Brionna Taylor (and several others) being killed by police. Floyd's murder, former officer Derek Chuvin was convicted on murder in the Floyd case, and is now awaiting sentencing. Police in Vietnam can kill citizens and get away with it. No protests, no accountability, nothing. And this is because officials in Vietnam make no mistakes, right? 😂 Everybody is always of the highest moral character, right?
Don't kid yourself on not having corrupts officials. They exist in Vietnam and in other communist countries too. In America, they get called out on it. And if they are convicted of corruption, then they go to jail. If they are not convicted, well, maybe they weren't guilty in the first place. Remember, just because someone accuses you of something doesn't mean that person is guilty.
Communist countries have their (albeit rare) protests .But when they do they put down violently. Recall 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre in China, Did you not hear of that one? Or how about Hungarian Revolution of 1956? There are others to name too.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn No evidence, you say? LOL!!! 🤣🤣🤣😂 Did you actually type that with a straight face?
Look at all the countries that got rid of communism, and look how they are successful today. China is communist in name only. They have adopted a number of ideas from the "capitalist" west.
No evidence that democracy is failing.
Visit a communist country to see for myself? Visiting and living somewhere are two different things, my man. In any event, why not take some of your own advice here and visit a democratic country like the U.S., Canada, Mexico???
I have had the opportunity of speaking with several persons over the years that lived in communist countries. None of them expressed any regret of not living under that system anymore, and they seemed quite impressed by the abundance of everything here in the U.S.
How many people do you know that previously lived in a democracy (born there, etc.) and moved to a communist country???
Even Lee Harvey Oswald (Kennedy's alleged assassin in 1963) left the U.S. after serving in military to go to Russia; supposedly he was a Marxist sympathizer. He got a job there as a lathe operator at the Gorizont Electronics Factory in Minsk, and met his future wife. However, he was dissatisfied with the soviet way of life after only 2 years and moved back to the U.S. to live in Texas with his wife.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn Well if is as you claim it is over there in Vietnam, guess what then? YOU'RE A DEMOCRACY in the making! 😁
Either way, you still don't have it as good as workers in the U.S.
Do you have Trade Union's there? OH NO! That is a dirty word in a communist country! LOL!!
These unions do quite well representing their members with negotiating better pay and benefits. Even school teachers here in the U.S. are represented by unions. They get paid fairly well, and they get summers off, which frees them to work other jobs, or sit back and wait for the school year to start back up again.
Wanna start comparing pay for the jobs that you work in Vietnam vs. the same jobs in the U.S? You'll get spanked again by me! You simply can't beat what we have over here. And 2.2 million Vietnamese that live here in the U.S. are in no hurry at all to go back to communist Vietnam. They know the truth. Unlike a socialist slave like yourself that does not know any better.
I can say with confidence that whatever the pay is for these jobs that you mentioned, it probably is less than minimum wage in the U.S.
I see that the approximate value of dollars (Vietnamese to U.S.) earned in a month is around $148 dollars to $750 per month in some of the better paying jobs. Guess what??? Hate to break it to you, but I was earning over $3,689 per month 7 years ago, which was based on 160 hours for the month (40 hours per week, with 45 minute paid lunch a day). That is 85,053,584.00 Vietnamese dong. And that is just an average middle class earnings for me.
You made a joke about Walmart a few posts back. Guess what? The stock boys and cashiers make more than you do. They are getting $15 U.S. dollars per hour. That is 345,840.00 Vietnamese dong.
In twice the lifespan experience that I have over you, along with a significate advantage of quality of education that you do not have, I have not met so much as one person who said they were going to leave the U.S. to go live in a communist county due to better opportunities. Not even Oswald wanted to stay in soviet Russia.
No, not one (1). So, what does that tell you?
If you leave Vietnam and come to America, you can actually make a step up in wage and living standard if you work at the so-called "circus" of Walmart.
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You have wasted nearly a week of your time going back and forth with me here on the this whole “Democracy vs. Communism” argument, and you have failed to make any salient points here in support of communism. No, not one substantive point in support of communism.
What is so superior about communism to democracy? You need to draw some solid points on this issue if you are going to convince me; points based on factual evidence instead of that pitiful pro-communist bravado and wishful thinking that you have.
As an American with an advanced education, you are really going to have to give it your all if you want me to believe that communism is the way to go (because it clearly isn’t).
Is it the lower standard of living and the restrictive control by the government over every facet of life in communist Vietnam that you like so much? Why would we want that? More importantly, who would want that and why? With access to better waste and sewer management, better medical technology and medical experience, along with a superior education system in a democracy, why would we want a lesser standard of living in an oppressive communist regime? It would be like going backwards in time.
Here in America, military service is optional. In most communist counties all males upon reaching the age of 18 must serve. And you know what? Service in a communist military doesn’t even come close to the better pay and educational benefits enjoyed by an American serviceman. Veterans receive the Montgomery G.I. Bill (money for college), and Veterans Home Purchase Loan to name just a few of the benefits. As for healthcare? Veterans get access to V.A. health care if they ever find themselves outside of coverage due to unemployment.
In the U.S., (along with most democracies) the standard of living is much higher than in a communist country; no two ways about it. Be it in America, Canada, Denmark, Norway, etc., the freedom enjoyed by the citizenry is beyond your warped conception of what freedom actually is. Additionally, the life span of the average person is higher in a democratic society than in a communist society. You can make claims to the contrary, but I’d say prove it, and prove it decisively. You are so gullible, if your great leader told you the moon was made of cheese, you and the idiots dancing and singing in the video would believe it! 😂🤣
To be quite frank, I really have seen no advantage at all of your life in a communist country compared to my life of relative prosperity here in America. If eating cats and dogs is an advantage to be gained, well, you can keep that so-called “perk” (barf 🤢🤢🤮 ). For the rest of us, cats and dogs are companion pets. The thought of eating one is beyond revolting to say the very least. Personally, I lean more towards a vegetarian-based diet, with the notable exception of fish, chicken, and beef (the latter on more rare occasions).
Communism is a dying breed of government. No wonder there are fewer and fewer communist countries with each passing decade (even you know this). I’m calling it now; Cuba will be the next country to trade communism for democracy (8 years or less). And when they do, they are going to experience tremendous growth and quality of living that will surpass anything in Vietnam (mark my words). Currently, Cuba ranks the lowest in terms of economic freedom compared to other South American countries.
With approximately 167 democratic countries vs. less than 5 communist countries at the present time, it is not hard to see that democracy is the better choice of the two, and gaining ground where communism is losing ground.
At the tender (and grossly inexperienced) age of 21, you are young enough to possibly see the eventual exit of communism in Vietnam. Either way, I really don’t care if Vietnam stays communist for the next 1,000 years, or if it goes democratic in the next few years; there is no stake in it for me. Based on some of the stuff you reported about jobs in Vietnam, it is clear that foreign investments are pivotal in creating some of the prosperity that Vietnam enjoys compared to other communist countries (China being the higher exception). Man, the Japs are making a handsome profit at the expense of all you cheap laboring Vietnamese! They took advantage of you guys in WWII as well.
Nevertheless, this prosperity in Vietnam is noting at all to brag about when compared to the prosperity of the democratic countries (and neither is the dancing and singing of a few Vietnamese morons in a video).
America was founded on the very principles of religious freedom. A person can choose any faith they want, or be free to choose none at all, and they are free to support any political party they wish. And while American democracy may have some faults, the pros far outweigh the cons of this system of governance. With democracy, change is always possible, and indeed it has already. Rights for women and racial minorities has gotten much better than it was years ago.
Here is a study conducted by the Pew Research institute regarding the opinion of people polled from former European communist countries. I think the research provides some valuable insight to this contentious topic. Yes, there were some surveyed that preferred communism over the current governments. However, the vast majority are satisfied with the transition from communism to democracy over the last 30 years.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2019/10/15/european-public-opinion-three-decades-after-the-fall-of-communism/
Just the facts, kid. Eat it and weep.
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Ok, so this is day 7 of this communism vs. democracy debate?? Yes, and it is yet another day wasted by you.
I am still waiting for you to convince me with facts that clearly and decisively show that you have a better life in a communist society, and I am waiting for you to tell me all of the great socialist advantages. You have failed yet again to produce any foundation. All you can keep saying, “Oh, communism is so much better and it has so much more freedom compared to the democratic countries.” Blah, blah, blah. What a steaming crock of you know what…
I have already provided you with information time and time again that clearly shows that a life of democracy in the U.S. is far superior to anything you have in communist Vietnam.
Quick fact for you: Did you know that a city bus driver in a city in the eastern U.S. makes approximately $30 dollars (693862.15 VND) an hour after only 5 years of being on the job? No long shifts past 8 hours (unless they want overtime). They start at $16 per hour while in training. Yes, full-time hours too. Union job with paid vacation, paid sick time, bereavement leave, and good medical coverage too. It is a job that does not require a college degree or extensive experience. Paid training as well. Think I am joking?
See for yourself:
http://www.riderta.com/career-opportunities
A few of the highlights of democracy in America (these are just a few of many):
1. Better living standards and wages (you don’t even come close).
2. Access to better education (you are far behind this point too).
3. Social Security and pension benefits
4. Far more expansive rights relating to freedom of speech and press
5. Press is not owned by the government.
6. Protection against cruel and unusual punishment (can’t beat on a so-called “suspect” to make them confess).
7. The right of defendant to have a trial by judge or jury.
8. Freedom to start a business (just look at Amazon and Jeff Bezsos or Bill Gates for a rag to riches comparison).
9. Right to protest against the government, and the ability to criticize political leaders.
10. Freedom of religion
11. Superior technology available in the U.S.
12. Better safety regulations for food inspection and safety (think of the U.S.D.A).
13. Better access to hospitals and urgent care facilities (our doctors and medical support staff are some of the best on the planet!).
14. Government must prove each and every element BEYOND A REASONALBE DOUBT to convict a defendant.
Now that you understand how to better frame your supportive points for your “argument”, I want to hear about all the great things and the so-called high living standard of communist Vietnam (things we can’t do here in the U.S.).
Come on now, stop spinning your wheels and make me jealous of the “good life” in communist Vietnam! You may have to contact your local village political leader for some help on this. He/she will be more than glad to fabricate, I mean provide you with some fresh propaganda.
Look, the proverbial ball is in your court, Nguyen. Stop wasting time and don’t disappoint me with nonsense, I want facts.
By the way, I noticed that you didn't seem to comment on the subject of the innocence Project. You know, the point where I brought up that there is an initiative underway in the U.S. to free those who have been wrongly convicted. It does happen. People are human, and people can make mistakes (Prosecutors, Judges, etc.). Nobody is infallible, no, not even in Vietnam.
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@Chí Thiện Nguyễn Not much of a fact at all.
Did you not look at the bus driving job link that I posted in my previous message, or did your government that controls what you see on the internet stop you from seeing it???? No degree needed at all. And there are quite a few jobs that are available. 30 million "unfilled" jobs that are restricted to the "educated"??? How many "great" paying jobs are unfilled in Vietnam? Oh wait, there is no such thing (ah, for the love of sarcasm).
As I said before, and I'll say it again for you.... The lowest paid American with a GED certificate flipping burgers at McDonald's makes more money than many so-called middle-class people in Vietnam.
With an average salary of less than $700 U.S. dollars a month (16190116.78 VND) earned in a job in Vietnam, man that is absolute garbage by comparison. Most low wage jobs in America are around $500 a week (more or less depending on area), with most middle-class jobs in the U.S. earning $1,080 per week.
You can't compete, Nguyen. You can't compete at all with the fact that America (or any other democratic country you want to name and compare to). Singapore is better than communist Vietnam!
So, how long you want to go back and forth with me on this issue? 1 more week? 6 months, 15 years? You'll tire long before me, son. With a superior American education behind me (primary and secondary levels), and armed with facts and life experience, you can be sure I will not yield an inch of ground on this topic.
You are in way over your head, kid. Ignorance and communist bravado are all you have to sustain you. And while the communist government in Vietnam clearly has you brainwashed and they control what you can and cannot see on the internet; they are unable to do the same to me.
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You wrote, "Vietnamese IT worker make $24,000-$36,000"
^^^Well, then they should come to the U.S. and get paid what they are worth.
Dunkin Doughnuts pays about $24,000 a year. And you know what they do? Yeah, employees serve coffee and doughnuts to customers on a daily basis. Wouldn't even need an education beyond the 6th grade, let alone have a college degree in information tech.
As for the cost of living in cities in California or New York? You are not telling me anything new. Heck, I knew that much before you were even a sperm cell swimming down your father's penis into your mother's vagina after a shared meal of Thit cho and rice. Look, those are two extreme examples. This is why $70,000 a year in New York is a poor wage, whereas in Texas that would be a good wage. How about Cleveland, Ohio???? What about Norfolk, Virginia In Cleveland, one can rent a 3 bedroom house for less than $1,300 per month in the suburbs. An IT specialist can earn $50,000 a year up to $100,000 + in Cleveland depending on experience and industry certifications like CCNA, CCNP, PMP, CISA ,etc..
I really do get a laugh at how you at the age of 21 are preaching to me like I was born yesterday. I have been out of grade school longer than you have been alive. Nevertheless, I am on track to earn my third college degree in less than two years from now (all in Information Technology).
In the next five years, I will have completed my graduate degree. Let me know when you can catch up.
Oh, yeah, So, tell me again about your 401k plan. Tell me about how you have your own house and car.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn
New Topic: The Olympics
Vietnam: 1 Gold, 3 Silver, 0 Bronze, Medals total: 4
United States: 1,127 Gold, 907 Silver, 793 Bronze,
Medals total: 2,827
You guys can't even compete seriously in the Olympics compared to our record?
What has your local political leader told you to say on this point? Or have you not called this person?
And you expect me to believe that you have a better education system and other nonsense??? You may be gullible enough to believe this, however, I am much more informed. Even Singapore and Taiwan did better than you guys.
Here, see for yourself...
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/olympic-medals-by-country
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn And, your point is????
Some of these same news links are what you earlier referred to as "fake news" when these news sources presented information that was not favorable to communism. But now they are credible, right? 🤣🤣🤣
More and more people are being vaccinated against Covid, which means the "frustration" will soon be over.
I'm am sure there are students in Vietnam who have the same frustrations about mask requirements.
"Covid parties in Alabama"??? So, what point is that suppose to serve?? Students are always looking for something to party about, And you know what? When Covid is gone, they will be partying about something else. So again, what point are you trying to drive here???
What won't be over soon is the fact that you don't live free. You are not free to speak your mind, and you have a low living standard, and your country is weak in sports among many things.
"Highly educated in Vietnam made an AI robot" Yeah, I was not all that impressed to tell you the truth. China is WAY ahead of you guys in just about everything, including Artificial Intelligence. And the U.S. is ahead of both of you.
By the way, you talk about Information Technology, how do you like American made hardware and software? You can thank Bill Gates and the late Steve Jobs for that!
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn Oh, I am sure there are many small businesses in Vietnam. Yes, they make very little money and pay their employees very little as well. Perhaps I should sell off my house, car, quit may job, and move to Vietnam so I can work for the crummy money over there. Yeah, that last part was sarcasm.
You wrote, " in US small companies or businesses will be brought by bigger companies or giant corporations just like what Microsoft and Disney been doing in the last 2 decades. "
Not necessarily true. And for the situations where it is true, guess what? The big companies will buy these business at a rate that the small business owner's will be satisfied with. It is a free choice in any event, which does not exist in a communist country like Vietnam (free choice).
It is no secret that companies like Disney are doing deals with China. Again, they provide cheap labor, which means Disney makes more money. If companies in Vietnam could actually afford to do what Disney does, they would (assuming your oppressive government would allow it).
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I also notice how you quickly gave up cultivating that silly idea about Vietnam’s contribution to the exploration of outer space, lol. Really?? The Russian’s could easily go into space alone, however, Phạm Tuân could not have gone into space without the Russians; it was a publicity stunt and nothing more. This would be comparable to a father that lets his 8-year-old son sit on his lap while driving a car and allows him to put his hands on the steering wheel to make the boy feel like he is driving instead of his father.
Do you actually think that the Russians needed Pham to get into space? By contrast, Alan Shepard made it into space, not onboard a Russian or Vietnamese space craft, no, rather he accomplished this feat onboard an American spacecraft. Same for John Glenn. I know you probably heard of these great American astronauts, but to be quite honest with you, I never even heard of Pham until I did a Google search a few days ago. This was most likely due to the fact that his contribution (and I say this as kindly as possible with a little bit of laughter) was so inconsequential to the Russians and their mission that it was not given much publicity (not even in Russia).
We have all heard of Russian Cosmonaut, Yuri Gagarin (much respect for him). He was the first man in space at a time when the space race was in full swing between the U.S. and Russia. A close race indeed, where the winner could have been from Russia or America, but America ultimately won by landing a man on the moon first. Sure, I know we had some help in the early days of our space program with former scientists from Nazi Germany’s rocket program (Wernher von Braun).
https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/23092241/dr-wernher-von-braun-632141main_vonbraun_web.jpg
You see, Nguyen, there is a reason why American is always at the very forefront of space exploration and the advancement of technology in the world. This point is evidenced by our superior education system and vast resources. Mark my words, we’ll be the first nation to put a man on Mars before 2030. Vietnam may (and that is a stretch) be able to hitch a ride on a Chinese or Russian spacecraft in the year 2085 (this is a very generous estimate at best). And again, neither Russia or China needs anyone from your underdeveloped country to achieve this goal. So, your country needs to start kissing up to China.
You made reference to the American entertainment industry, well, what does Vietnam have that is worth mentioning in the entertainment industry? Nada, zilch, không có gì. Our entertainment and actors are known all over the planet. Vietnamese movies or entertainment? Never heard of anything. But you can be sure your entertainment is heavily regulated by the Vietnamese communist party; it must meet their approval first. Our entertainment is not owned by the U.S. government. It is privately owned in large part by Jewish entrepreneurs to have been in the Hollywood movie business a long time.
You have heard of Superman and D.C. Comics? Great! Now, what exactly does Vietnam have in the entertainment category that can be compared to Superman or D.C. Comics??? Lol! I’d love to hear the answer to this one! Let me guess, a resurrected Ho Chi Minh with a flapping red cape, emblazoned with the yellow outline of five-pointed star, wearing red underwear over a yellow form fitting leotard! Yes, his weak, scrawny figure flying through the skies to save people by having them work on collective farms! What a miracle! I’m sure it would be a box office hit in Vietnam!
Look, you are not free, Nguyen. A free society allows people to decide for themselves by the process of voting on what type of government they want. Communism is forced upon the people through violence and revolution. Democracy is chosen by the people and for the people. If enough people here in the U.S. wanted communism instead of democracy, we’d be absolutely free to have a vote and make that transition to a system that would restrict our freedom and give us lousy wages across the board.
Try asking your local government political leader for ideas on how to formulate a free election to vote for whoever you want? Don’t be a bit surprised if your political officer quickly takes your name down and puts you in handcuffs, and then they will have you off to the labor camp for “political re-education.” And we all know what that means, hint, hint.
You saw what happened when Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev gave people the right to choose, right? They chose to get rid of communism and the iron curtain came down. His Glasnost policy was pivotal in bringing about the necessary change that brought about increased freedoms for Russians. Once Putin is gone, things will get better. Putin is a former commie who runs things like they did prior to 1989. He can't run everything the commie way, but he sure is trying his best.
A Vietnamese “glasnost” would be the best thing for your country and advancing true freedom in your oppressive country. Instead, you allow businesses from democratic countries (Japan for example) to use your countrymen as cheap labor to maximize profits for the stakeholders in Japan. Do you think that the Japanese respect you? If they did, they would pay you a respectable wage. Evidently, you are too stupid to even realize this. You know the old saying, “If you can’t beat them, join them.” So, on that note, it is time to get rid of communism and adopt the democratic way Vietnam; you’ll be that much better off.
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Notice what countries are ranked as having the best healthcare? See a familiar trend in this grouping??? No? Confused?
Here, allow me to point out to you what they all have in common (drum roll), they are all democratic nations (and none are communist). Doesn't matter if the U.S. is ranked #22 in this article; your country didn’t even make a ranking.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/slideshows/countries-with-the-most-well-developed-public-health-care-system?slide=13
Did you notice that Vietnam is conspicuously absent from this listing?? Guess your healthcare is not as good as it is in the free West. Told you communism sucks.
Oh, this is a very telling article below. Like how you criticize American college students on break, and their approach to mask mandates. Seems as though Covid-19 has hit Vietnam as well. Businesses are closing, this means people are losing their jobs, etc.
“According to the General Statistics Office of Vietnam, in the first 6 months of 2020, the number of enterprises suspending business for a definite time was 29.2 thousand, increasing by 38.2% over the same period last year, while 19.6 thousand enterprises stopped and focused mainly on the service sector. There were 897,050 thousand people losing jobs while the number of unemployed people was at 1.3 million, an increase of 123.900 thousand, making the unemployment rate reaching the highest point in 10 years (3)”
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2020.590074/full
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Do you realize how delusional and pathetic you are? You are in complete denial of the facts and reality to the extreme. Your little 21 years of life on the planet in a communist country that tells you what to think illustrates that you don’t have a clue about what you are talking about.
As for me? I have said it before and I’ll say it again for you (at the risk of sounding like a broken record player), with two (2) college degrees behind me and a third degree by 2023, AND consider the fact that I have lived twice your life span, it would be safe to say that I am much more qualified to know what is and what is not freedom.
As an American that has lived twice as long as you, I know full well what freedom is. I can write disparaging and unflattering comments about my government (even if they are untrue), our leaders, and their policies if I so desire. And you know what? Nobody with a badge is going to come and put me in prison for it. As a matter of fact, I wrote something at the beginning of this video’s comment section about how my government needs to stop sending money and resources to other nations (I am against this). Also, I am free to pick up a copy of newspaper or magazine knowing that the government didn’t write the material. No, a news correspondent and their team of editors covered a story and presented their findings. Often these stories contain content that the government would find embarrassing to politicians. No such freedom exists at all in Vietnam, NONE at all. Your government (regardless if you want to embrace reality and admit it or not) will always censor any material that they deem unflattering about their socialist society and their policies. In America the internet is NOT owned by the government. There are approximately 2,774 internet service providers in the U.S.
As for Vietnam, they have a mere 5 internet providers (all strictly regulated by the communist government).
Look, your reasoning and critical thinking skills are imbecilic to the extreme. There is no way in hell that you are going to convince me (or anyone in a free democratic society) that life in a communist country has more freedom than a democracy, or that there is more opportunity for success. That is just plain ludicrous to say the least; you’re totally divorced from reality.
A better education system than the U.S.???? LOL!!!! Better wages and opportunities than in America??? MORE LOL!!!!! A better hospital network than America?? Oh, boy you are one dumb S.O.B. I almost feel sorry for you (almost that is).
And you know what? Any Vietnamese person working in Information Technology for what would be the U.S. equivalency of less than $35,000 per year is not getting paid what they are worth. Perhaps this is because the training, equipment, and technology is more sophisticated in the U.S. than it is in communist Vietnam. Heck, our nation is the one that pioneered the whole concept of the internet and information technology; you guys sure didn’t. You’re just “riding coattails” on what we have already accomplished in the U.S.
There is greater diversity for places to travel to, or if one wishes, move to. From warm tropical climates to winter landscapes, and mountainous alpine climates, there is something for everyone.
You can post all the goofy YouTube links that you seem to foolishly believe are relevant and support your points, but I got news for you, boy; YouTube videos are not authoritative sources for supporting a point. Try a “.org” source or something credible. When you get a college level education someday, you’ll see what I am talking about regarding the importance of citing sources. If you try to use YouTube or Wikipedia as a base for your narratives, people will soon be convinced that you are a moron, a simpleton.
Quite a few Americans own more than one car, have a home (sometimes more than one of those as well), a boat, and a 401k through their employer. Some of our lowest paying jobs are better than most of your good paying jobs in Vietnam. Just he way it is. We are a nation of prosperity that has been on the world stage for a lonnnnng time. And it is clear that we will not be leaving the world stage anytime soon. You can choose to remain jealous if you like, or you can curse communism and move to the U.S. for the abundance of opportunities.
I see you have said nothing more about the Innocence Project that I have brought to your attention a few times. Executing 435 people a year in communist Vietnam compared to 35 persons executed in the United States is quite revealing about the fairness about sentencing criminals. With that large number of executions in your country, it is safe to say you have a much higher degree of getting it wrong and killing someone that was wrongly convicted. In America, when someone is sentenced to death, they are entitled to an appeals process. So, in other words it could take around 20 years before someone is executed.
Oh yeah, in America, we do not have kin liability like they do in communist countries. You know, where the government wants to prosecute you, but if they can’t get you, they will come after your family and put them in camps.
So yeah, tell me (as I asked you before) about your “great” retirement benefits and 401k plans in communist Vietnam.
Communist Vietnam is not known for high ratings regarding respect for human rights. And you know what? It is like that in all communist countries.
Here is a fitting narrative illustrating the oppression that exists in communist Vietnam: “Constitutional guarantees of due process are generally not upheld. Defendants have a legal right to counsel, but lawyers are scarce, and many are reluctant to take on cases involving human rights or other sensitive topics. Defense lawyers do not have the right to call witnesses, and often report insufficient time to meet with their clients. In national security cases, police can detain suspects for up to 20 months without access to counsel.”
https://freedomhouse.org/country/vietnam/freedom-world/2020
Not so in America. A defendant has a constitutionally guaranteed right to have an attorney represent them through each phase of the judicial process, and they have the right to call witnesses. It is called a Miranda Right, and police MUST advise a defendant of this right prior to custodial interrogation. And if the police fail to do this, well then, the defendant’s statements will not be used against them in court. If a defendant can’t afford an attorney in America, one will be provided at no cost to a defendant that is indigent. Doesn’t get anymore democratic than that, and that is freedom.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn Fairy tales, socialist fairy tales.
If you are so free (and again, you are not, you moron) then speak up and voice your support for free elections in your country! lol. You get to choose anyone you want so long as that person is a member of the communist party. So, don't fool yourself.
You wrote, "research shown 96% of Vietnamese people have a positive view about their own current government, US only have 40% of Americans sacrificed with their own government, so we Vietnamese don't expect any change."
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man o man! And where the hell did you come up with that crock of fecal matter???? The Vietnamese communist party came up with that study! Which is just another way of saying it is totally unreliable, and doesn't at all reflect reality.
96%? eh? Where are the other 4%? Probably in prison or in the ground with a bullet in the back of their heads. What research and more importantly, WHO conducted it?
Sounds like 96% of the people are just as brainwashed as you are.
You wrote, " US only have 40% of Americans sacrificed with their own government"
^^^Americans "sacrificed" what with our government??? That doesn't make any sense.
Did you mean "satisfied'??? You got that wrong too. You may be referring to a particular President's approval rating, but that does not at all indicative of how American's feel about democracy in our country. They sure as hell wouldn't trade it for Vietnamese style communism. You can be sure of that!
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn And another point? Who would want to drive for Uber of Lyft? Be it $9 buck an hour or even if it were $20 per hour? When one drives for these companies, they are just burning up the resale value of their own car. Does that make a lot of sense???
You do all that driving with your own car, only to devalue it if you want to sell it or trade it in; makes no sense. A person puts quite a few miles, along with wear and tear on their car (tires, gas, etc.). Plus, someone pukes in your car, YOU have to clean it up. Someone dumps their beer that they were hiding under their coat all over the floor of your car, again, YOU have to clean it up. Some drunk wets themselves in your backseat, YOU clean it up. So, bringing up Uber of Lyft and how it compares to driving a taxi in Vietnam is a moot point.
If driving is what one can do for a living, and if they expect to make a decent living out of it, then why not drive for a trucking company or a metropolitan bus company?????? Get paid a heck of a lot more money to do it, AND you have the company pay for the upkeep of the vehicle. It breaks down, they bring you another vehicle (and you still get paid for downtime). Not so with Lyft or Uber.
However, since you want to compare driving for a living and the wages that come from it, yeah, let’s discuss that, shall we?
Comparison: Truck driving in the U.S. vs. Vietnam
https://www.erieri.com/salary/job/heavy-truck-driver/vietnam
LOL!!! Driving a truck in Vietnam comes out to approximately VND 121,560,442. That is around $5,279.28 United States Dollars!!! What a joke!
Truck Driving Salary in the U.S. $40,378 and $53,000 USD (Hazardous material drivers make even more!).
So, if a truck driver rents a house in the U.S. for $1,100 a month, that comes out to 22 percent of their salary $50,000.
In Vietnam? The truck driver that makes VND 121,560,442 (or $5,279.28 U.S.) a year is spending more than their yearly income to rent a home that would cost approximately $800 U.S. dollars a month. That Vietnamese truck driving better have an additional source of income! That wage is not even $500 U.S. dollars a month!
https://www.salary.com/research/salary/benchmark/truck-driver-heavy-salary
Some of the sign-on bonuses comprise what one of your drivers in Vietnam makes in a whole year. And that is just the sign-on bonus!
https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes533032.htm
You are getting beat by me time and time again on this Vietnamese Communism vs. U.S. Democracy and quality of life stuff. You are getting crushed!
So, what do you want to compare next, Nguyen??? Professional Chef’s or Police Officer salaries??? Maybe Pipefitters or Construction Equipment Operators?????
How about garbage men?
We already know actors, musicians, and sports celebrities in the U.S. make FAR, FAR, more money than someone of comparative backgrounds in communist Vietnam.
I’m ready! Bring it on.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn Again, you are an idiot. Totally clueless.
You wrote, "Your US police committed 1,000 cases of public"
^^^Look stupid, first off, when a police officer encounters an armed suspect, be it with a gun, knife, baseball bat, that officer has a right to defend themselves. So what you call an "execution" is actually self defense by a police officer. After all, approximately 135 U.S. Police Officers are killed in the line of duty each year, often at the hands of hostile suspects. Your police have killed people too.
And for officers that do kill without cause, they go to jail and lose their job! And the government pays the family a large sum of cash. Remember Rodney King and the LAPD from the early 1990's??? They didn't kill him, but they did beat him severely. He got around $8 million U.S. dollar's in compensation.
I'll bet your government does not pay compensation to anyone.
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I needed to respond to something that you said earlier that got lost in this maze of comments. So, here goes...
Yeah, punching a police officer is called "Assault on a Police Officer", and yes, it is a crime. Just like punching anyone on the street is a crime. No fear in Vietnam of being arrested? (that is an outright lie and you know it).
You really expect me to believe that you can hit a Vietnamese police officer, and nothing will come of it????? Ok then, I’ll give you the extreme benefit of the doubt on that one; however, I will require you to PROVE IT THEN! Get your Go Pro out, turn it on to record mode, and walk up to the nearest Vietnamese Police Officer and cold cock him right in the mouth! I want you to hit him hard enough to make his mouth bleed and for him to pick himself up off the ground! Then put the video on here.
Yet if you make a critical comment on Facebook about the government in Vietnam you go to prison for 6 years? That doesn't add up to logic. Well, go burn your flag in public then. We can do that in the U.S.
Come on, Nguyen, for once in your pitiful life don’t be a scared little punk. Get your video camera out, grab a Vietnamese flag, squirt it real good with lighter fluid, and set it on fire with a zippo lighter. Then after you walk through the street with a burning Vietnamese flag to the rising adulation of the crowd that will think you are so cool for exercising your "free" speech rights that are respected in Vietnam, post the video on here to YouTube. I’ll give it a thumbs up if you do, and I’ll even give it a like and subscribe to your new channel!! How else to prove me wrong, right? Do that, and you may gain my respect! What have you got to lose?
You’ll actually be cool for once in your life!
You wrote, "But US, they are always fear of the cop because they don't want the public excution [sic] by gun shots lol."
Really? Cops go to prison too when they shoot people without legal justification. You didn’t know that, right? All deadly use of force incidents are carefully reviewed by the district attorney’s office for possible charges. Same can be said for any American to use deadly force if they need to (depending on that person’s particular State of residence).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0syS9bI9Xo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkY6FjqWp00
https://youtu.be/GHVddBKsCKk?t=2
^^that last one has someone of your general appearance going to prison as a cop! 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
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Chí Thiệ Nguyễn 'unlike US" as you ended that comment, that part is clearly wrong. What you meant to write was "almost like in U.S."
With the vast array of entertainment and sports, there is literally no limit to the amount of fun Americans have.
You STILL have not told me what it is that you can do in Vietnam that I as an American cannot do in the U.S.??? Besides eating dog or cat meat. Heck, even cats and dogs have more rights in the U.S. than they do in Vietnam. Animal cruelty to a domestic pet is a crime (and indeed it should be). You are going to have to respond to this point, I won't let this one go. If need be, I'll copy and paste this comment into this discussion everyday if I have to.
No police abuse of citizens in Vietnam? Wanna explain this then?......
"The Committee specifically requested that the State of Vietnam elucidates and informs the Committee about the outcome of the deaths in police custody of the following individuals by December 7, 2019:
Do Dang Du, a 17-year-old minor, who reportedly died in custody on 5 February 2015 as a result of severe injuries to the head and body while in police custody in Chuong My district, Hanoi;
Nguyen Huu Tan, a Buddhist who was detained and whom the police alleged had committed suicide while in custody. No independent investigation of the death was carried out, and the detainee’s family was subjected to reprisals from the local police after complaining to the authorities;
Ma Seo Sung, a Hmong Christian who was arrested and detained by the police and allegedly committed suicide by hanging and whose family also received threats of reprisals;
Ksor Xiem of the Montagnard Evangelical Church, who died of injuries sustained in police custody, and
Y Ku Knul a Montagnard Christian who died while under arrest and whose body showed signs of electric shocks."
https://www.thevietnamese.org/2019/01/vietnamese-police-faced-new-brutality-allegations-amid-obligations-to-follow-up-un-committee-against-tortures-recommendations/
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Chí Thiệ Nguyễn Watched you video link, and???? You act like that doesn't happen in America?
My turn...
The commercial that preceded it features McDonalds in Vietnam. Big deal, we have that here too.
Regarding your referenced video:
I observed people standing outside taking pictures and women in yellow shirts dancing, and guys wearing orange and pink shirts? Ok. So? People dance outside here too, as they do everywhere else on the planet.
“Unlike in America” you say?
https://youtu.be/xGPjonxrUYc?t=6
Quite a few people here at this event in Miami, Florida in 2017. People of all ethnicities, and flying their own flags from their respective cultures (you can do that in America).
Here, Native American dancing link below…
https://youtu.be/RJkkK3PG3qw?t=3
Chicago dancing
https://youtu.be/vF_ghvvIfjU?t=2
So, this video that you showed did not contain anything that is so unique that it can't be found in America. Well, I clearly showed you otherwise on the matter.
And that is just dancing as one activity. For others, there are other fun things to do. Gun range is always fun. Do you have this? See below...
Can you do this??? We can.
https://youtu.be/IlXbFE_ZO6Q?t=4
Or how about track racing your sports car?
https://youtu.be/KJ0OkRciKKc?t=2
Heck, bring your Vinfast! 😂😂😂 I'm sure it can hold it's own against a Ford Shelby Mustang or a Dodge Charger Hellcat!
How about skydiving???? Got that too.
https://youtu.be/hWAC_TS6BcY?t=4
Anything else you want to showcase from Vietnam that we can't do here in the U.S.???
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn You are going way off topic.
Here is my question again for you:
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO IN COMMUNIST VIETNAM THAT I CAN'T DO IN AMERICA????
Simple question dude, very simple question. I am not asking the man in the video, I am asking YOU.
Regarding this guy though, he admits to "hanging with the wrong crowd" and "selling drugs and going to prison for 14 years."
This means that he now has a criminal record in America, which makes things harder for him (won't be able to pass a background check). So yes, he may as well go back to Vietnam for a fresh start. However, if he gets caught with drugs there in Vietnam, your government will execute him.
Plus, he has an elderly mother that is still in Vietnam, and this was part of his decision to move there.
And 1 guy supports what you contend, yet there are over 2.2 million Vietnamese in the USA that would have a different opinion. So, he is right and all the other Vietnamese have it wrong? I hardly think so.
What did he say about Norway, or Canada and the comparison of freedom? Nothing! Those are free countries with more freedom than communist Vietnam.
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Phương Pháp Thành Công claimed that you can say whatever you want in Vietnam (free speech), however, you can’t criticize the government or what they are doing.
People in Vietnam will criticize the government when there is no government official around. BINGO!!!! That is exactly what I have been trying to get through your thick skull, Nguyen!
In America, not only can we say whatever we want (just ask John Cena, lol), but we can criticize the government, their actions and policies, and the words of protestors may or may not even be factual. And you know what? ISN’T A DARN THING THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT CAN DO ABOUT IT. That is freedom, pure and simple.
I can make any critical statements about America in the presence of ANY government official. Doesn’t matter if it is the F.B.I, a judge, mayor, or governor, and none of these U.S. government officials need to be my hang out buddy or friend.
Yes, you can’t do that in your country. So, strike 1 for you on free speech.
In Công’s second point, he claims that poor people in America and people with no influence have free speech, but rich people and those with influential positions are limited by free speech. Not 100% accurate. Công makes an assumption that the media, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, etc. are blocking material that would say good things about Trump. Whoever said that there were only good things to say about Trump? There are PLENTY of bad things to say about Trump, and the negative comments about Trump are due largely to the stuff that comes out of Trump’s own mouth! Yes, even Trump has free speech to tell as many lies as he wants (and he takes great liberty with this point).
In any event, it is not democracy or even the American government that is controlling the media. The media is NOT owned by the government. This means that rich people in America can block comments from people they do not like. But again, it is not the government doing it.
Công’s comment at 9:09 raises an interesting point. Nevertheless, it is not the government that is controlling what gets posted to the media, and what does not get posted. Think about it for a second; Trump (at that time he WAS the government), and people like Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook (who is rich, but not a government official) blocked Trump’s statements. So, did Fox News and CNN, I saw that with my own eyes, Nguyen! I was watching Trump talk on TV, and he was taken off the air, not by the government or police, but by the privately owned media (this has NEVER happened before to a President on live TV).
This could not happen in communist Vietnam for the simple fact that the government controls the media.
It is obvious that Công is a Trump supporter (fine, that’s his choice). But the deplorable things about Trump is not what the media says about him, no, it is what comes out of Trump’s own mouth whenever the media provides him coverage.
At 10:01, Công claimed that his business crypto currency accounts got shut down and they gave him his money back because of his support of Trump. Regardless if that was true or not, it was not done by the government. And you know how I know that? Easy, Trump WAS the head of the government at that time.
Oddly enough, there are still pro-Trump businesses out there that did and still do flourish. So, what gives?
https://www.flare.com/news/brands-that-support-trump/
^^^ That is a link that shows business entities that support Trump. And you know what? They are still in business! As for Mr. Công, who knows why his situation turned out the way it did. We already know from his own statements that he is a convicted felon that served 14 years in prison in California. So how do we know his crypto accounts were not shut down due to illegal activity? I don’t know, and neither do you, and he is not going to come out and say that.
At 10:55, Công even claims that this is just his opinion on the matter and that he has no proof to support his claim.
11:46, Công talks about “freedom of speech” and compares this notion with “freedom of action.” He talks about living in a “pretty decent neighborhood in north Dallas.” He claims that in this good neighborhood, that a person is not free to paint their house the color they want. Well, this is true! However, this is because a person CHOOSES to live in a community that has this Homeowner Association requirement. This does not mean you can’t move into a rich neighborhood that is not in this classification. So, that is freedom. In the Homeownership Association, everyone is held to the same standard. He said that the homeowner has to get permission to paint, but so do the other homeowners that need his permission, so it is fair at the very least. Otherwise, again, that person is free to move to a home that has no restrictions.
Công mentioned that he would need the majority approval from the 400 neighbors that live in the Homeownership community. Well, that is how we elect our politicians too! You can’t make everyone happy. The majority of the vote is what counts.
15:31, Cong complains that his 3% tax on his property tax comes out to over a $1,000 a month. Well, the more your homes costs, the more you have to pay. If he has money to go shopping for Lamborghini’s, then he is well off financially to afford this.
I mean, I do not even know someone who owns a Lamborghini or a Ferrari. If he were wise about it, he would have moved into a community that does not have HOA rules. The tax would be the value of his property (not based on his income). He says it is not freedom. Well actually, it is freedom in a sense. He is free to move out of the HOA in Dallas and buy a home someplace else. Choices are freedom. I pay less than $300 per month in property taxes.
Property taxes are necessary for a local government to fund services such as the fire department, police department, emergency medial response, road repair, snow removal, etc., and the salaries for those employed in these functions.
25:38, Cong makes a statement regarding running a business without requiring safety measures (steel toe boots, hardhats). Well, in the U.S. there are regulations in place to protect workers from unscrupulous employers who cut corners to maximize profit. Think OSHA; they do inspections of business to ensure that these businesses operate in a safe manner to protect the employees, as well as customers. Just because they may not do that in communist Vietnam does not mean that is a good practice. Less business regulations means more injuries or the potential for a fatality.
I can agree that as a business owner you should be able to do what you want; however, you should not be able to make decisions that compromise the safety of your employees and your customer base. Employees have rights too, namely a safe work environment. Under our system of government, the right of safety for workers is prescribed by law.
27:18 Loud music being played at full volume? How is that freedom? So, a person can play their music as loud as they want without regard for the neighbors who may not share your taste in music?
Just as a person may have a right to play their music, I have a right not to have to hear it, same goes the other way.
However, people still play their music loudly here too (don’t let anyone fool you). Unless the police are called, there is no enforcement in this regard.
27:34 Cong said he can’t work on his car in front of his home in Dallas. Well again, he was part of that HOA community. He chose to live there, and he knew the rules and regulations up front. As for me? I live in America (non HOA community), and I can change my oil, or any other automotive repair function (and no, I don’t live in the " hood” either.
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You still are not addressing the point here; what benefit do YOU (as in your own experience and in your own words) have in communist Vietnam that I do not have in the USA???
You claimed your idea of freedom was represented by a YouTube video of a public dance party in Vietnam. Well, I easily supported the fact that this sort of activity exists in large measure right here in the U.S.
And while it is true that some people do move to Vietnam (including some expats), it is equally true that far more people move to the USA for the rewarding opportunities that are here.
As for communism? When Vietnam was getting established as a communist country in 1976, the USA was celebrating its bicentennial (1776). This supports the fact that democracy does work, and it is a system of governance that won't be going away anytime soon. By contrast, Russia became communist after the Russian Civil War (1917–1923), and their system of socialist government fell by 1990. So, what does that tell you? China adopted elements of democracy and became the success that they are today. They are on track to eventually become democratic.
As for communism, you stick up for it like it is some Asian creation to be proud of. It is not; it began in Europe and spread from there. Carl Marx “Das Capital” began in Germany (specifically Prussia), although it was Russia where this movement began to take form.
America takes in more refuges than any country on the planet (at least according to 2015 figures).
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/sep/10/migration-how-many-people-are-on-the-move-around-the-world
Most migrants move to the USA, Germany, Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, and Russia. Vietnam is NOT even mentioned as a top destination for those looking to move abroad. Communism is a system that fosters government control over most things, it also excites exceptional paranoia over what the citizens are saying about them, secret police that monitor everything and report back to the party. In their twisted doctrine there is nothing that even compares to the rights that are outlined in the American Bill of Rights.
So, Nguyen, once again you have failed miserably to convince me that communism is the right thing for me and America.
So far, anything and any point that you raised that you feel is an advantage of your life under communism in Vietnam has also been shown to exist in the U.S. In addition to these points, I have also outlined how similar jobs in communist Vietnam offer significantly less pay than the same job in the U.S. Democracy just offers a higher standard of living. After all, did you get 3 different stimulus checks from your government since the Coronavirus pandemic (tax free of course)???????? I did! Does your government offer a Federal Pell grant for students to earn their 1st bachelor’s degree???? The U.S. does! That is money that you do not have to pay back. All one has to do is be within a certain income bracket to qualify.
You posted a video link concerning “not all Vietnamese Americans are agree with you, here one lol”
Well, here is a link for a video of one that does agree with me:
https://youtu.be/3C7dwBlF61c?t=1
From this video ^^^at 1:06 “fear and panic” gripped the streets when Saigon fell. Why would there be “fear and panic” Nguyen?? Can you explain that???? If the communist government is so nurturing and caring about the Vietnamese, why would they experience the emotion of fear instead of joy? Why would they risk their lives to escape the communist consolidation of Vietnam???? And we are not talking about 1 person, but rather thousands!
Thuy Vu was one of the lucky ones to make good her escape from Vietnam with her family and go to America where she works in the lucrative career of journalism.
Here is another video “Boat People” with Van Nguyen (hey, same name as you. you may have a relative in the U.S.!).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFW35zWsRew
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Part 1 my response to you:
You wrote:
“The people who speech against the government aren't always smart, they're always asking for the least-smartest thing that they thinks it will fix their problem from the government, but it is not.”
^^^^Not always smart? Then it would be fair to say that some are indeed smart and well informed.
You wrote: “You can criticize the U.S. government all the time as you want, but that can't never be translated to action nor changed anything from the current situation in US, meaning it is totally the most useless thing you can do against your government. The US government doesn't care about fixing the problems that the American criticized them for, they will just do the cheapest way as possible to decreasing the old problems by creating more new problems on top of the old. They don't fix the problem from the root, they fix it from the top. For example:
1. The BLM Americans protected on their government for police brutality. But not by expand the training time of the police to make them more professional in action so they can be more calm and know more ways to handling in each situation they are facing without using their gun and force that will decrease the police brutality rate, because this is the most expensive way. Instead they go for the cheapest way by decrease the police funding, fire some police or giving them earlier retirement, so now there are lesser police in action meaning there will be lesser police brutality meaning problem sold right? Then what will you do about the crimes rate that have gone up 1000% because of the lack of police and the money that was used to fund the police gone to the politician's pockets after that?”
^^Not true at all. You clearly do not know how things are over here in the U.S. based on that statement.
So, allow me to educate you a bit on this….
First off, criticizing the government can indeed bring about change. Did you not hear of the George Floyd Act being handled at the legislative level of the U.S. government???? Communities across the U.S. are revamping their Police “Use of Force” policies. More training and crisis intervention techniques are part of this bill.
Also, police departments (aside from the F.B.I. or DEA, or U.S. Marshals service) are not federalized. This means that each state, be it Texas, North Carolina, Ohio, Utah, etc., have different standards for police training.
Even though the George Floyd incident happened in one city (Minneapolis, Minnesota) in 2020, protests were in virtually EVERY major city in EVERY state in the U.S. And you know what? It didn’t stop there either. No, protests occurred in other countries where there is a right to free speech; with the notable exception of totalitarian governments like in communist Vietnam.
I’d like to touch on one point that you raised (however brainless it is on your part) …
You wrote: “Instead they go for the cheapest way by decrease the police funding, fire some police or giving them earlier retirement, so now there are lesser police in action meaning there will be lesser police brutality meaning problem sold right?”
^^^First off, you can’t “fire” a police officer without just cause (i.e. unless they do something like what Derek Chauvin did in 2020). You see, almost all police departments are “unionized” (an alien concept in communist Vietnam), which means that the individual officer has a right to the collective bargaining process, and secondly, early retirement is a choice made by the officer, not the government.
Your suggestion (if implemented) would mean that young, inexperienced police officer would exacerbate the situation compared to the seasoned veteran police officers. And what makes you think that a new officer can handle a stressful situation better than a veteran officer?
And being a veteran officer does not necessarily mean that individual can handle a stressful situation. Each person (doesn’t matter where you live on the planet) can react to a stressful situation differently. Some may panic, while others are more composed and rational. You never can tell how an officer will react until they are in a stressful situation. And you know what? It is not everyday that a police officer gets shot, or shot at.
And secondly, when and where did the talk of “defund the police” actually translate to action on the part of anyone tasked with funding the police??? President Biden is not supportive of “defund the police”, so what makes you think that is going to be the outcome?
If anything, more funding will be steered towards police reform, not a reduction in police officers. This means that funding will help hire more social workers to accompany police to better assist them with handling calls for service that involve possible mental health encounters with the public.
Do some research on the “George Floyd Act.”
Look Nguyen, your responses just show how very young and inexperienced you are in life compared to someone like me. You have no college degree (to say anything of an American education), and you lack the critical thinking skills and common sense that I have gained in my own life experience. This is why you are having a difficult time defending your points in support of communism compared to may debate strategy in defending democracy.
Furthermore, with the momentum and support that BLM generated from ALL races in America, the protests over the last year have definitely captured the attention of American politicians to take measures to bring about change in policing.
Do you actually think the George Floyd Act would have come about if everyone kept their mouth shut and didn’t criticize the government here in the U.S. over the past year???? These politicians really want to be reelected next term, so they, along with the “Free” media attention has generated pressure on these politicians.
Here, read about the George Floyd Act below:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/7120
Read up on this one, kid; you have some homework to do, and you have a lot to learn. I suggest you get busy ^^^ Don’t just read the summary on the page, no, click on all the tabs at the link about and read up.
part 2 to follow...
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Part 2
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You wrote: “You Americans ask the government to defund the police:
What "defund the police" really means https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9w841nrIBg 260 Seattle cops leave force following defund police movement, budget cuts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqnKMn71Y-k
Minneapolis pouring money into law enforcement after 'Defund Police' movement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BejR0FI8Y50
And here is the result of defunding the police: Portland reports 2000% rise in homicides after defunding police https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYa7aLiCS38
(This is what the democrat did) 2. You are complaining about cost of living in US are too high for you. So why not asking the US billionaires or CEO to keep the lesser money in their pockets for themselves and taking lesser profit by charging their products and their service lesser? Instead you asked for more minimum wage which result the employers hire lesser employees, cutting the working hours, forcing more works in every single employee or the price of the products and services gone up meaning it increase of unemployed rate, increase the stress on employees and the cost of living will still gone up again. If the minimum wage go up, some US manufacture companies will not want to hire American workers any more, they will just gone to Mexico, Vietnam, India Bangladesh and more for cheap labor, Americans are losing their job for that. Because they have to pay their employee more, they will just have to charge their service higher. Imagine having a college degree but still have to work at the minimum wage in US. Just watch: Working Woman Testifies About Reality Of Poverty In The U.S. | NowThis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvQ1V2WLJt0 Living on Minimum Wage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW8EyV_jsr8 The minimum wage: does it hurt workers? | The Economist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H4yp8Fbi-Y What Will Happen If We Raise the Minimum Wage? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHC_UzavmW0 How a $15 Federal Minimum Wage Might Affect the Economy | WSJ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHLX73_qziw The Minimum Wage Debate Explained https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL5VOorY9pw America's Overwork Obsession https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejoAG5n19iE A $15 minimum wage would hurt those it's meant to help https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aCpaON5NyE”
I pity you Nguyen (shaking head). Any of the officers that left that department (200, not 260) left in protest because they don’t want to change their abusive policing habits.
Doesn’t matter if they left or not, Seattle has hired more officers. It is a good paying job, so finding replacements will not be that hard.
Portland? That is ONE city in one state among thousands of major cities in 49 other states.
I notice that ALL of your references are strictly YouTube. You do know that there are better sources to get information, right? Maybe not.
Now, on to the minimum wage topic, shall we….
First off, raising the wage will not cause the problems that you have raised. You sound like a Republican instead of a communist. Are you sure you are a communist at this point???
If people have a better wage, then they tend to spend more of their disposable income, which has the effect of growing the economy. This brings about a positive turn of events at reducing depression, which means that drug and alcohol abuse goes down, and crime goes down.
By contrast, if you keep wages low, especially at a level that does not keep pace with inflation, then what does that do? People don’t spend money, because they have none to spend. Instead, the government has to support people on welfare and that will cost the government money.
In any event, it really doesn’t matter if the government steps in or not. And you know why??? Because businesses are raising wages on their own. This has the ripple effect of causing one business to raise wages or face losing their employees to the competitor that pays more. It is a simple matter of common sense, Nguyen. Would you work a job that paid less than an employer down the street??? Of course not! Then why would you expect that someone in America will be satisfied working 40 hours a week at $7.25 per hour? That may be big bucks in Vietnam, but in the U.S.? That is where the poverty line is. In one of your previous posts you brought up California, New York City... Look, $7.25 per hour in these two locations is a guaranteed tent under a bridge there. No way someone is getting an apartment with that wage in those locations.
Why do you think small businesses are having such a hard time finding employees in the U.S.??? Want to take a guess? Amazon already pays their employees $15 per hour (and this is an entry level job with no college needed), and most retail establishments in America are on track to raise the wage to $15 per hour in the next year or so.
Raising the minimum wage would bring more than a 1 million Americas out of poverty.
Here, since you base your arguments on everything YouTube videos and their content as “gospel”, here are a few that refute your idea that raising the minimum wage will be a bad thing.
That’s the thing about YouTube, one point can support or refute the other.
https://youtu.be/8H4yp8Fbi-Y?t=2
The 5 Biggest Myths Republicans Use to Avoid Raising the Minimum Wage | Opinions | NowThis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPn6T0zT6jc
As for your point that businesses will lay off people or send jobs overseas?? LOL!! They have already been doing that! It is called greed. Why do you think the American Steel Industry took a hit in the 1990's???
The millionaires and billionaires always want more and more at the expense of the working class American. Funny though. Since 1990, business CEO pay has gone up 514%(https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2018/09/19/growth-in-ceo-pay-since-1990/
Yet the minimum wage has only gone up by approximately 52%. If the minimum wage had gone up by the CEO's 514%, the working wage would be 19.53 per hour from 1990 to today! Nobody is proposing that kind of raise.
You wrote:
“If the minimum wage goes up, some US manufacture companies will not want to hire American workers any more, they will just gone to Mexico, Vietnam, India Bangladesh and more for cheap labor,”
Yeah, as I said before…. the businesses have already been doing that very thing. Cheap labor? They already get that with shoes and other items marked “made in China.”
So, what is your point?
n any event, individual states and businesses are doing the right thing that the federal government is struggling with…. increasing wages to $15 per hour.
The Federal minimum wage has been stuck at $7.25 since 2009. Prices and the cost of living have gone up since 2009.
If businesses want to keep wages low at $7.25 per hour, then fine! Seriously, fine! Just don’t raise the costs of groceries, vehicles, houses, and other consumer products. Sounds fair to me! But no, the business wants to keep raising costs, but they don’t want to raise the wage to $15? Let them work for $7.25 per hour and see how they feel about the issue.
$15 per hour would boost economic growth by providing more money to spend. Higher wages mean employers have more people to hire. By contrast, if an employer wants to pay low wages, then guess what (and it doesn't take a Harvard Economic degree to figure it out)? Few people apply to the business that pay low wages, and the employees that are there begin looking elsewhere for better wages. So, doesn’t that hurt the business that want to pay low wages? Uh, yeah! 🙃
Let’s talk about Henry Ford and his approach to DOUBLING wages at his factory in 1914…
“In January 1914, Henry Ford started paying his auto workers a remarkable $5 a day. Doubling the average wage helped ensure a stable workforce and likely boosted sales since the workers could now afford to buy the cars they were making. It laid the foundation for an economy driven by consumer demand.”
https://www.npr.org/2014/01/27/267145552/the-middle-class-took-off-100-years-ago-thanks-to-henry-ford#:~:text=In%20January%201914%2C%20Henry%20Ford,economy%20driven%20by%20consumer%20demand.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn It is funny, you know. You raise all these things about wage increases, defunding the police, 2000% increase in Portland homicides, etc. but what are they doing in communist Vietnam to help the average worker keep pace with the rising costs of living? Police brutality exists in your country, so what are they doing about it over there in communist Vietnam??? Because, I really don't know. Your country keeps a tight lid on things over there. That is because the government owns and controls your media, TV, internet, etc. If it were not for free speech and free media in America, you wouldn't know anything that is going on over here. And just because you know, does not necessarily mean you understand.
Heck, give me a YouTube link on the subject (I am use to you doing this by this pitiful point).
Recall the video link of the guy that left the US to go to Vietnam. It was video #2 link. Did you watch video #1???
I did! The guy clearly stated that the communists took his father's property when they took control in 1976.
Here, watch video #1 "Living in Vietnam #1" by Tai Zen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsViX-uu17E&t=851s
By the way, I noticed you are VERY silent when I brought up the stimulus checks that people in America received during the pandemic. Did you forget? Did you get one from your government?
How about the free grant money to earn a college degree in America?
Here is a few links on that topic as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfLl40TslC4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pjYN4eSP1I
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn Yeah, I am talking about Mark Zuckerberg "the man who sold his user data for money."
Your point is a moot one. Zuckerberg indeed censored Donald Trump, as did the executives at Twitter. Want to bring up dirt on their conduct too? Wouldn't underscore the point that they banned the lying, fake tan-orange, hypocrite!
Yes, we have freedom of speech in America. You are just too stupid and uneducated to know any better. You are not free, so how can you even know what freedom is? Simple, you don't.
You wrote: :i don't want to live in a country where you are being control by big corporation."
Well in your particular case, your government is "the big corporation" and they own EVERYTHING, including you.
Yet another loss for you, Nguyen, little boy punk.
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Hanh Tran was one of 800,000 Vietnamese that fled your communist Vietnam.
Tran stated, "We were certain of what was going to happen," said Hanh. "We were very scared of the Communists. If you said one wrong word you would be invited to the police station and never return."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-48501390
That was and still is freedom of speech in Vietnam (sarcasm). An “invite” to the police station; never to return. That is what is commonly known as “political reeducation.” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
40 years ago? It is still happening, Nguyen. You really need to wake up from your slumber and delusion.
"The United States is the top destination for Vietnamese migrants, followed by Australia (with 238,000 Vietnamese immigrants), Canada (192,000), and France (128,000), according to mid-2017 estimates by the United Nations Population Division."
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/vietnamese-immigrants-united-states-5
Eat it and weep, kid. America is where it is at for freedom and opportunity, with Canada being a close second, (heck, I'd consider Canada if I had to leave the U.S.).
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Another point I’d like to raise regarding your comment about “Portland homicides up by 2,000% because of defunding police.”
Ok, first off, your reasoning on “cause and effect” in this statement is way off balance here; absolutely moronic of you.
Policeman do not prevent homicides. Let me say that again for you, police officers do not prevent homicides from occurring. And you know why that is? This is because there are not enough police officers (even at full strength and pre-Portland craziness) to be present in every home, in every dark alley, on every street corner watching every person 24 hours a day, 7 days a week; it’s just not feasible. Otherwise, no homicides would occur anywhere. Just good ole fashioned common sense, Nguyen. I told you that you have much to learn about life at the tender age of 21 (you're probably still a virgin too).
This is quite an insurmountable task even under ideal situations.
There are more than 350,000,000 people in the U.S. (not counting persons here illegally). All told, there are approximately 1,000,000 police officials. That is 1 police officer for every 350 people, and this of often over vast distances.
So, how are they going to stop the majority of homicides? Add to this fact that police officers do far more than just respond to and investigate homicides. They also handle damage to property complaints, noise complaints, stolen property, juvenile curfew complaints, investigating drug activity, and the list goes on.
Police officers patrol areas and respond to calls for service. Sometimes (VERY rarely) they may be in a position to stop a murder, or provide life-saving care to a victim of a shooting/stabbing. But for the most part a police officer responds to a report of a gunshot victim, stabbing victim, and once on scene they first determine if the person can be saved. If so, they provide basic care until a fire rescue squad shows up to transport the victim(s) to the hospital. Either way if the victim is dead or hanging on to life, the police officer will document the crime scene, gather evidence, and then try to identify a suspect(s) and bring them to justice after probable cause has been determined that a certain person(s) are the culprits.
And in any event, if the 200 (again, not 260 as you falsely claimed) did quit, then what do you think will happen? Simple, the county Sherriff’s Office or state police will come into Seattle to provide patrol service until Seattle hires more officers.
Have you heard of Antifa??? You have heard of BLM, but what about Antifa? Antifa (anti-fascist) is comprised of people of YOUR calling. That’s right, they are far left (socialist) and or anarchists that oppose law and order.
Note the communist red hammer on the shield of the Antifa guy at the forefront in the link below.
https://www.nytimes.com/article/what-antifa-trump.html
And the civil unrest that exploded in Portland in 2020? Who was in the White House when that happened (or was at his golf course most likely)??? Your boy Donald Bone Spurs Trump/5-time draft dodger.
Yes, I have NEVER seen things in the USA as they were from 2016 - 2021 before Trump got elected (recall Jan. 6th incident at U.S. Capital). I have been around long enough to see presidents from both the republican and democratic parties and this is off the charts.
And ever since Trump’s departure, things have calmed down bit. You see, Trump’s words promote chaos and discord. He is the one that far right group (Proud Boys) neo-Nazi groups and other whack jobs gravitate to in order to justify their conspiracy theories and support for their racism against blacks, Hispanics (and yes, even Asians).
Trump is the first cult leader to ever be elected president.
If communism is so great, then why aren’t other nations adopting it??? Can you answer that? If anything over time, your beloved communism is shrinking country by country.
Allow me to make an example here to better conceptualize things for you:
Suppose a certain city (doesn’t matter where in the world) has 4 grocery stores on the same street just a few hundred yards apart. Let’s say that store “A” is offering 40% off all of their products for the next 3 weeks, along with a free gallon of milk. Stores “B”, and “C” have reasonable prices, and their quality is just as good as store “A”, only without the sizable discount.
Where do you think people in the city will go to shop for the next 3 weeks? I’ll make this really simple for you by using a multiple-choice format to answer this question:
1. Store “A”
2. Store “B”
3. Store “C”
4. All the above
5. None of the above
6. I’m a communist idiot who does not know the correct answer to this very difficult question.
7. I’d like to call my local communist party official for help to do my thinking for me to answer this question.
Pick one answer (theme to the American game show Jeopardy playing in the background). And if you don’t know what that theme is, well:
https://youtu.be/g3Kq1vURcL8?t=14
Now, to put this scenario and the right answer into perspective for you (man, I really do hope you selected choice 1). If America and other democratic countries are getting the highest number of immigrants, then wouldn’t it stand to reason that the democratic countries (particularly the U.S. and Canada) are the best “deal in town” that appeal to most people?
And while I do not dispute that there are some that will move to Vietnam, it just is not reflective (or even comparable) to the sheer number of immigrants coming to democratic countries. I know that is a tough pill for you to swallow, but it is what it is.
You can be absolutely certain that if you had the better opportunities in communist Vietnam, it would not just be a few people of Vietnamese heritage with a few family’s connections in Vietnam as the impetus for going back, no, you’d have tens of thousands (if not millions) of Americans of European stock. And a few expats here and there is not a big enough number to convince me that communism is the better choice.
Far more Vietnamese still are coming to America by contrast.
Businesses in democratic countries like to do business with communist countries because they can take advantage of the people due to the very low labor cost. And really it is communist and other third world countries that are making it difficult for better wages in America.
The greedy billionaires in America would have to swallow their greed and pay better wages if they could not outsource their work overseas. This further supports my point that money and other resources (paid for by the American tax payer) need to be invested within our borders first foremost.
By the way, did you get a few rounds of stimulus checks that most Americans received over the past several months??? 😉
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn Religious freedom in Vietnam???
Here: "The law, which will take effect on Jan. 1, 2018, regulates legal procedures and conditions regarding people's beliefs. Faith groups will be required to register with authorities and inform them of their activities with authorities having the right to approve or refuse."
https://www.ucanews.com/news/vietnam-passes-controversial-law-on-religion/77714#
Here is our Freedom: It is called the Bill of Rights:
The First Amendment
"The First Amendment provides several rights protections: to express ideas through speech and the press, to assemble or gather with a group to protest or for other reasons, and to ask the government to fix problems. It also protects the right to religious beliefs and practices. It prevents the government from creating or favoring a religion."
The Second Amendment
"The Second Amendment protects the right to keep and bear arms."
The Third Amendment
"The Third Amendment prevents government from forcing homeowners to allow soldiers to use their homes. Before the Revolutionary War, laws gave British soldiers the right to take over private homes."
The Fourth Amendment
"The Fourth Amendment bars the government from unreasonable search and seizure of an individual or their private property."
The Fifth Amendment
"The Fifth Amendment provides several protections for people accused of crimes. It states that serious criminal charges must be started by a grand jury. A person cannot be tried twice for the same offense (double jeopardy) or have property taken away without just compensation. People have the right against self-incrimination and cannot be imprisoned without due process of law (fair procedures and trials.)"
The Sixth Amendment
"The Sixth Amendment provides additional protections to people accused of crimes, such as the right to a speedy and public trial, trial by an impartial jury in criminal cases, and to be informed of criminal charges. Witnesses must face the accused, and the accused is allowed his or her own witnesses and to be represented by a lawyer."
The Seventh Amendment
"The Seventh Amendment extends the right to a jury trial in Federal civil cases."
The Eighth Amendment
"The Eighth Amendment bars excessive bail and fines and cruel and unusual punishment."
The Ninth Amendment
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The Ninth Amendment states that listing specific rights in the Constitution does not mean that people do not have other rights that have not been spelled out."
The Tenth Amendment
"The Tenth Amendment says that the Federal Government only has those powers delegated in the Constitution. If it isn’t listed, it belongs to the states or to the people."
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn Quite a few people can get into the military, and quite a few play professional sports too.
Your wages and quality of living are WAY below the living standard in the U.S.
A Starbucks beverage would take a week's worth of wages for you to save up and buy a "cup of joe"! lol!!!! Average income in Vietnam is $750 U.S. dollars per month (17,209,500.00). That is partly why you guys are so weak and skinny. You can't afford to eat. And white rice? You can't live on that alone (too many carbs).
I myself prefer the wild grain rice.
America exports items such as maize, soybeans, and milk. Other common exports include wheat, sugar beet, sugar cane, potatoes, and chicken.
You can't compete, Nguyen.
Chalk up another loss for you.....
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn The United States has the highest GDP on the planet at over $19 trillion dollars, and the U.S. is the 2nd biggest exporter of goods to other nations.
Communist Vietnam????? You guys are not even in the top 10, let alone the “honorable mention” category. So, you go on ahead and pat yourself on the back for Vietnam’s coffee exports. 😂
You think you know what freedom is, that is until you come live in the U.S., then you’ll know what real freedom is (along with a higher living standard).
You wrote: "Vietnam doesn't banned same sex marry"
Neither does the U.S. With democrats in the White House, LGBTQ is widespread accepted.
And it is not that the "U.S. allowed..." anything. It is up to individual state governments (that is how things work over here). What is legal in one state may not be legal in another. Example: You must apply for a concealed handgun permit in order to carry in several states, however, in some states like Arizona, no permit is required. Nevertheless, the 2nd Amendment applies to all 50 states.
Freedom of religion?? Doesn't get any better than that offered in the U.S.
You have nothing that even comes close to our Bill of Rights (hope you took the time to read it, you may learn something new).
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"On June 26, 2015, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down all state bans on same-sex marriage, legalized it in all fifty states, and required states to honor out-of-state same-sex marriage licenses in the case Obergefell v. Hodges."
https://guides.ll.georgetown.edu/c.php?g=592919&p=4182201#:~:text=2015%20%2D%20The%20U.S.%20Supreme%20Court,Hodges.
So once again, young Nguyen, you are WRONG. This is getting to be a habit for you, eh? 🤣
Do your research first before you rattle off and display your blind stupidity on here.
By the way, how is your 401k retirement doing? Did you get that stimulus check yet??? Pell Grant for school???? You keep avoiding these topics.
You can't compete, Nguyen. Not with your outdated communist country vs. my democratic country, and you can't compete with me one on one on any debate topic. And you know why? You lack the necessary life experience and education that I have. You live at home with your parents rent free and you are still a virgin (be it a gay virgin or a straight virgin makes no difference), and you think you have all the answers about life (sarcasm) 🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂!!!!!
Yet another loss for you, young, Nguyen.
Talk to you tomorrow, moron.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn There is this neat thing called "zoom." Perhaps you have heard of it? Well anyways, people can attend religious service via this platform if they choose, and the government isn't determining what can be preached in a religious setting. Freedom of religion, baby, freedom of religion.
You wrote: "we will wear it not like some Americans who said to their government god created this beautiful breathing system, you can't take that away from god. Lol"
^^What are you even talking about?? Do you do drugs? Who said anything about "god created this beautiful breathing system"???? lol, Dude you must be on meth or something.
The government has indeed told us to wear masks and we do wear them. Now that the government here in the US has lifted the mask requirement (for those that are vaccinated), there are quite a few people that are still wearing the masks. So, what are you even talking about?
And your Florida video link proves what??? You are not telling me anything new. In fact, once again, you are just supporting my point! lol!!! Freedom of speech and freedom to protest! Yes, people in Florida or any of the other 49 states can speak up and voice their disapproval over masks.
How about in Vietnam? Nope! All you guys can do is wear your masks and be sure not to offend the government with any dissenting opinions! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Another loss for you....
Chat with you again tomorrow, stupid....
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn Looks like the both of us are at a complete impasse here with this debate, wouldn’t you say?
No matter what I say or what evidence I present here about the superiority of democracy over the communist way of life in Vietnam, you will never accept the reality. Guess we will both have to agree to disagree.
The same can be said about your statements and opinions about this topic. No matter what you say/have said will convince me that communism in Vietnam provides a better life with more freedom than what is found in the U.S. No way you’ll ever convince me.
You are simply too young and inexperienced at life to know better than me. Just think about it for a moment; in the year 2000 you were not able to wipe your own butt (probably still couldn’t perform this basic task by 2005), whereas I was already a grown man that had been out of High School for several years, served in the military, and had completed some college. And as one who has taken advantage of the opportunities here in America to advance my education (2 college degrees earned, with a 3rd one next year), I am in a much better place to evaluate which system of governance is better; you have no education or experience to match me. So, what some virgin boy at the tender age of 21 living at home with his parents (having never been out of your village, let alone your county), playing video games using Microsoft products, means that any opinion of yours is a complete joke and cannot be taken seriously. And you know how I know? Easy. Everything you have said over the last month does not even come close to the reality that I see every day, yes, days of freedom and opportunity that FAR exceed your little born yesterday lifetime.
Your point about universal healthcare is a moot point to support communism. And guess why? Go on, take a guess, genius. While America does not have this universal healthcare standard, other democratic countries such as Canada, Denmark, Germany and France ALL have universal healthcare. So, it is not some great communist implemented strategy in communist Vietnam to serve their citizens with universal healthcare, democratic countries have this as well.
Will America ever have universal healthcare? I don’t know. I know I have healthcare coverage through my job, and it that were not enough, I'd still have Veterans Affairs (VA) to cover me in a pinch. It certainly is not a “deal breaker” for me to consider leaving the U.S. to go live in some backwards communist society in Vietnam and earn a lower living standard, and have to watch what I say so that I am not put in prison.
Besides, there are far too many people to provide the universal healthcare in the first place. Secondly, the vast majority of people in this country earn a very good wage, so why should they get it for free?? Should Jeff Bezos’s get free healthcare? Should Lebron James or Donald Trump get free healthcare? Lol. But then again, there is already a healthcare program for those that are poor; it’s called “Medicaid”, which provides health coverage to millions of Americans, including eligible low-income adults, children, pregnant women, elderly adults and people with disabilities.
https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-brief/10-things-to-know-about-medicaid-setting-the-facts-straight/
So, there is no need for universal healthcare for all 350,000,000 (and rapidly growing) people in the U.S. Think about it for a second, would Madonna, Beyoncé, Jay Leno, Tom Brady, or Billy Ray Cyrus need access to free medical care with the large amount of money that they make??? Lol. You really need to learn how to think more pragmatically, Nguyen.
Doctors in the U.S. make very good money compared to doctors in Vietnam (I know, I know, you’re going to claim that that is untrue, lol, You: “Vietnam has the best wages compared to the U.S.”, LOL!!!!!!). Sure, any you have the best dog stew too no doubt! LOL!!!!!!!! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 , oh wait a second, BARFFFF 🤮 (wipes mouth with towel).
Despite all your failed attempts to criticize America by exaggerating things about our economy, healthcare, etc., our way of life even if it were as bad and gloomy as you foolishly make it out to be (it is far from that), our way of life at its so-called “worst” would still be better than your very best living standard and opportunities in communist Vietnam. Lol.
You: “Oh, we have more freedom because we can dance outside.” Newsflash, stupid….people dance outside here too in America.
To summarize just a few of my points about our superior way of life in America compared to communist Vietnam:
1. Government Stimulus checks mailed out to those making less than $75,000 during the pandemic.
2. Pell Grants (money that does not have to be paid back) for students below a certain income to attend college and earn their first bachelor’s degree in whatever major they desire.
3. EBT and food assistance provided by the U.S. Government for poor people and the unemployed.
4. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) to provide living quarters for those who are financially destitute.
5. Significantly higher living standard and wage earnings across careers in the U.S.
6. Right to protest
7. Right to criticize the government
8. Freedom to practice ANY religion without government interference. This one point all on its own is the very reason why our great nation exists in the first place. And if you don’t know what I am talking about, go read up on this cool historical topic called “The Reformation” and figures such as Martin Luther, Jan Hus, Jerome of Prague. Religious intolerance in Europe was the starting point for what would later become religious freedom in America. And this notion of freedom led to other freedoms as well, such as free speech, freedom of the press, the right to file grievance against the government. Yes, a right to be heard!
9. We have a stronger economy as well.
10. Safer food regulations to ensure food (especially meat and dairy) are stored and handled in a manner that does not cultivate harmful bacteria.
11. Better rights for the work industry to ensure a safe working environment for all workers (OSHA).
12. Unions to represent workers to advocate for better benefits and wages! HOORAY!!!
13. Medicaid coverage to provide healthcare coverage for the poor (yeah, Clint Eastwood, Chris Rock, and your good ole buddy John Cena do not need free healthcare coverage; they all have loads of cash).
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Do you realize how delusional and pathetic you are? You are in complete denial of the facts and reality to the extreme. Your little 21 years of life on the planet in a communist country that tells you what to think illustrates that you don’t have a clue about what you are talking about.
As for me? I have said it before and I’ll say it again for you (at the risk of sounding like a broken record player), with two (2) college degrees behind me and a third degree by 2023, AND add the fact that I have lived twice your life span, it would be safe to say that I am much more qualified to know what is and what is not freedom.
As an American that has lived twice as long as you, I know full well what freedom is. I can write disparaging and unflattering comments about my government, our leaders, and their policies if I so desire. And you know what? Nobody with a badge is going to come and put me in prison for it. As a matter of fact, I wrote something at the beginning of this video’s comment section about how my government needs to stop sending money and resources to other nations (I am against this).
Also, I am free to pick up a copy of a newspaper or magazine knowing that the government didn’t write the material. No, a news correspondent and their team of editors covered a story and presented their findings. Often these stories contain content that the government would find embarrassing to politicians. No such freedom exists at all in Vietnam, NONE at all. Your government (regardless if you want to embrace reality and admit it or not) will always censor any material that they deem unflattering about their socialist society and their policies.
In America the internet is NOT owned by the government. There are approximately 2,774 internet service providers in the U.S. As for Vietnam, they have a mere 5 internet providers (all strictly regulated by the communist government).
Look, your reasoning and critical thinking skills are imbecilic to the extreme. There is no way in hell that you are going to convince me (or anyone in a free democratic society) that life in a communist country has more freedom than a democracy. That is just plain ludicrous to say the least; you’re totally divorced from reality. A better education system than the U.S.???? LOL!!!! Better wages and opportunities than in America??? MORE LOL!!!!! A better hospital network than America?? Oh, boy you are one naïve individual at the extreme limits of blind stupidity.
I almost feel sorry for you (almost that is). And you know what? Any Vietnamese person working in Information Technology for what would be the U.S. equivalency of less than $35,000 per year is not getting paid what they are worth. Perhaps this is because the training, equipment, and technology is more sophisticated in the U.S. than it is in communist Vietnam. Heck, our nation is the one that pioneered the whole concept of the internet and information technology; you guys sure didn’t. You’re just “riding coattails” on what we have already accomplished in the U.S.
There is greater diversity for places to travel to, or if one wishes, move to. From warm tropical climates to winter landscapes, and mountainous alpine climates, there is something for everyone.
You can post all the goofy YouTube links that you seem to foolishly believe are relevant and support your points, but I got news for you, boy; YouTube videos are not authoritative sources for proving a point. Try a “.org” source or something. When you get a college level education, you’ll see what I am saying about the importance of citing sources. If you try to use YouTube or Wikipedia as a base for your narratives, people will soon be convinced that you are a moron.
Quite a few Americans own more than one car, have a home (sometimes more than one of those as well), a boat, and a 401k through their employer. Some of our lowest paying jobs are better than most of your good paying jobs in Vietnam. Just the way it is. We are a nation of prosperity that has been on the world stage for a lonnnnng time. And it is clear that we will not be leaving the world stage anytime soon. You can choose to remain jealous if you like, or you can curse communism and move to the U.S. for the abundance of opportunities.
I see you have said nothing more about the Innocence Project that I have brought to your attention a few times. Executing 435 people a year in communist Vietnam compared to 35 persons executed in the United States is quite revealing about the fairness about sentencing criminals. With that large number of executions in your country, it is safe to say you have a much higher degree of getting it wrong. In America, when someone is sentenced to death, they are entitled to an appeals process. So, in other words it could take around 20 years before someone is executed.
Oh yeah, in America, we do not have kin liability like they do in communist countries. You know, where the government wants to prosecute you, but if they can’t get you, they will come after your family and put them in camps instead.
So yeah, tell me (as I asked you before) about your “great” retirement benefits and 401k plans in communist Vietnam.
Communist Vietnam is not known for high ratings regarding respect for human rights. And you know what? It is like that in all communist countries.
Here is a fitting example of the oppression that exists in communist Vietnam: “Constitutional guarantees of due process are generally not upheld. Defendants have a legal right to counsel, but lawyers are scarce, and many are reluctant to take on cases involving human rights or other sensitive topics. Defense lawyers do not have the right to call witnesses, and often report insufficient time to meet with their clients. In national security cases, police can detain suspects for up to 20 months without access to counsel.”
https://freedomhouse.org/country/vietnam/freedom-world/2020
Not so in America. A defendant has a constitutionally guaranteed right to have an attorney represent them through each phase of the judicial process, and they have the right to call witnesses to testify on their behalf. Another cool thing is this process called a Miranda Right, and police MUST advise a defendant of this right prior to custodial interrogation. If the police fail to do this (intentionally or otherwise), well then, the defendant’s statements will not be used against them in court. If a defendant can’t afford an attorney in America, one will be provided at no cost to a defendant that has declared indigency. Doesn’t get anymore democratic than that, and that is freedom.
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"Vietnam will face severe power shortages from 2021: ministry"
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-vietnam-energy/vietnam-will-face-severe-power-shortages-from-2021-ministry-idUSKCN1UQ11M
"Container shortage compounds Vietnamese exporters' shipping woes"
https://e.vnexpress.net/news/business/industries/container-shortage-compounds-vietnamese-exporters-shipping-woes-4258894.html
"As World Shifts Away from Meat, Pork Shortage Worries Vietnam"
https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/world-shifts-away-meat-pork-shortage-worries-vietnam
Root Causes of Vietnam’s Hunger Problem
"Despite the decrease in percentage over the years, the number of those who face hunger in Vietnam is still very high. Here are four factors that ultimately connects to Vietnam’s hunger problem:
High Poverty Rates: The issue of hunger ultimately roots to the high rates of poverty in Vietnam. According to the U.N., Vietnam has around 9 million citizens, or 9.8% of the entire population, who live in extreme poverty. The statistics of those facing hunger mirror the percentage of citizens in poverty.
Issues with the Education System: The VN Express International News, or the most viewed Vietnam newspaper, reports that the key to combating poverty is providing an equal opportunity for an education to children of all backgrounds. According to a report provided by Oxfam in 2018, only 3.1% of the population were college-level graduates in Vietnam. As a result, the same research discovered that only one-fifth of Vietnam’s young adults occupy a different job from their parents. Without the proper higher education, the majority of those in poverty remain in the endless labor-working cycle that their parents lived through.
Imbalanced Income and Spending: The Vietnam Briefing, a website that provides insights on doing business in Vietnam, reports that the average monthly spending of a Vietnam citizen is VND 6.5 million, or $280 USD. However, the citizens’ monthly income is on average only VND 4.6 million, or $197.8 USD. Due to this issue, most people have to work overtime to make ends meet.
Agriculture: Vietnam is one of the top five countries that faces environmental challenges. Due to this problem, rice production has experienced negative impact. The United States predicts that Vietnam’s rice paddy production will drop 3.3% in 2020 because of its droughts and incidents of saltwater intrusion. In the Central Highlands, coffee production also declines frequently due to intensive droughts. The food production rate affects the percentage of Vietnam citizens facing hunger."
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/texas-enters-2021-as-worlds-9th-largest-economy-by-gdp-301216400.html
^^^^”Tiers” of joy, lol! The so-called "poor people" of Mississippi and West Virginia live like kings by comparison! lol.
Go feast on your dog meat sandwich, Nguyen! lol!!! What will it be this time? Great Dane, or Poodle? A slab of bbq Husky ribs, anyone? lol
Death to communism, long live democracy and freedom! lol
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn You could save yourself all that pointless typing by just saying that you do not know how to support your point(s) that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that communism is better than democracy. Admit it, you can’t do it.
Communism is a worthless political mechanism that is fading with each decade, while democracy has only grown in popularity amongst nations
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Government ownership of property (communist system) does not promote the best in human rights opportunities, and it does not promote the maximum benefit for people to build their own way to success. To support this point, we have FAR more billionaires and millionaires than you could ever hope to compare to. Even our poor live as high a standard as your middle class.
It is clear that you are insanely jealous of the success that has been America for over 245 years. You can’t match the GDP of Texas, let alone the entire U.S. Just facts, dude, just facts.
Your society can not match our level of technology, or our higher standard of living. In fact, you guys are STILL waiting to go to the moon! Lol. Been there done that in July of 1969.
“All of the World’s Wealth in One Visualization”
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/all-of-the-worlds-wealth-in-one-visualization/
In this ^^^^ article, it shows the USA at the top spot, which comes as no surprise. As for Vietnam? You guys are even behind Indonesia and Singapore, lol. You will also notice that (with the exception of China), all the top economic heavy hitters in the world are democratic countries (you can't deny this reality). You can cry “fake” and “exaggerated” `all you want, but that won’t make it less true! Lol.
Yes, for you young Nguyen, delusion can be its own prison. But if it makes you feel a little better, communist Vietnam is ahead of the Philippines (though not by more than a hair). By contrast, Mexico is way ahead of you, and you know what? People from Mexico are cramming our southern border on a near constant basis. And you know why? Better opportunities in America. If it were not for the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, we’d have a very serious crisis with people trying to get into our country through two more lengthy borders.
Again, facts are facts. Thankfully, Canada’s citizens are content with their brand of democracy, so they are not trying to cross our borders, and likewise we are not trying to cross their borders.
But if you want to go on daydreaming about the brainless notion of communism as the ultimate solution to society, and Vietnam as the world economic superpower, then you are free to walk about blindly in the land of delusion trying to find your way in the so-called “utopian society” where there is plenty for all (yeah, plenty of poverty that is).
This is just a perfect example of your lack of education and life experience, along with your tender, virgin age of 21. You have been a man for a mere 3 years, which is hardly enough time to know anything about life in your own country, let alone grasp an understanding of an advanced country like America that you have never been to.
As for one of your earlier comments about “why a severe shortage of truck drivers”, well who ever said there was a crisis? I have close ties to the retail industry, so if what you say is true, then I should see empty shelves at all the stores, and I should see gas stations with no gas available for sale for lack of truck drivers (which, none of that is the case). I can drive down the highway and see any number of 18 wheelers hauling their load.
If you meant to say that there is a need for more truck drivers, well then yes. After all, online shopping has skyrocketed during the pandemic, which means more shipments need to go out due to the increased demand for shipping online orders. And if your backwards country is experiencing an increase to online sales, then you too are experiencing a shortage of truck drivers. Yes, drivers that make FAR less compared to their American counterparts.
And a severe shortage of truck drivers (even if that were true), how would that prove that communism is better than democracy? How would a communist society prevent a shortage of truck drivers????? Put a gun to a guy’s head and order him to drive a truck??? Threaten a trucker in Vietnam with imprisonment for his family if he does not comply and drive???? Go on and tell me, Nguyen (since you think you know everything and have many years of life experience, lol, sarcasm).
In America, you can choose to work whatever career you want. And if someone happens to be a truck driver and they want to quit to pursue some other career opportunity, well guess what? They are more than free to do so and quit if they like. With the wages that truck drivers in America make, there is no shortage of ambitious young men (and women too) ready to step up and drive a truck. `
You need the U.S. FAR MORE than the U.S. needs Vietnam. We can do without you, whereas you can’t do without America.
Like, what do we really need communist Vietnam for? Coffee as you once brought up? Hello then to our friends in Brazil and Columbia for all our coffee needs, lol. Starbucks wouldn’t miss a beat with Vietnam out of the coffee exporting picture, believe me.
You lose again, Nguyen.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn She is smarter than you in any event (thanks to that quality American education). lol
Look, stop dancing around the issue and tell me how America would be better off with a communist government???? It is not that hard of a question, since you "know everything" from your extensive years of experience of 21 years on this planet (sarcasm) lol.
Let me dummy it down for you:
If the American government went full commie next year; they do away with the Bill of Rights, free speech, Government owns and controls everything, no work unions, low wages, etc., how would that make America a greater economic superpower than it is already???
If that happened, I can absolutely guarantee you that the American southern border crisis would do a 180! Mexicans would stop coming, and American's would be running for Mexico! And 2.2 million Vietnamese would be heading out of America. If anything, these folks know from first hand experience about communism.
So, come on Mr. "Know-it-all", tell me how a communist society in America would be so darn great? You can't answer that, can you?
My second question: Tell me how if Vietnam went to a democratic state (right to criticize the government, free speech, freedom of religion, employment unions, better wages, etc.) how that would be detrimental to Vietnam??
So far, all you have shown me are examples of American's exercising what you DON'T have; that is free speech. You won't get that from anyone in Vietnam, and you know why? They would rather keep quiet rather than go to prison (or worse).
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn
As I said before, what you need to keep in mind is that subjective opinions do not carry the same weight as objective facts when proving a hypothesis (or what you wish was true).
So far, you have attempted (albeit repeatedly in vain) to convince me of the superiority of communism over capitalism using only this person or that person’s opinion on YouTube. Sure, I can find as many people who think vanilla ice cream is absolutely nauseatingly disgusting (doesn’t necessarily mean that it is though).
Likewise, the 4 or 5 people on YouTube that made statements that you believe supports your point means nothing when weighted against my own personal experience of living here in the U.S. for more than 40 years. By contrast, there are plenty of people in Vietnam that would like to complain, but, oh yeah, they can't post a negative statement about your oppressive government, or they go to jail! lol. So, I guess we will never know to what level of discontentment there is there in Vietnam.
I really have no complaints about the democratic process that I have lived under. I can say what I want about my government, our officials, and complain or praise as I see fit. And while I do not posit that democracy in America is flawless, I do believe that it is the best option on the planet until someone comes up with a better political option, and communism is certainly NOT the better option. A constitutional monarchy would be my second pick.
Communism is an outdated political and economic philosophy. Sure, its basic social philosophy sounds good and all, but from a standpoint of economics it is an abject failure in practice. Communism entails a classless system in which the means of production are owned communally and private property is nonexistent or severely curtailed.
Communist China has become quite successful due to the fact that they have incorporated many of the economic principles of capitalism, heck, they are communist in name only it would seem. All they need to do is get rid of the restrictive position on freedom of speech and religion.
Read the following excerpt from Investopedia:
Why Did Communism Fail?
While there has been extensive study of the reasons for communism's failure, researchers have pinpointed a couple of common factors that contributed to its demise.
The first is an absence of incentives among citizens to produce for profit. The profit incentive leads to competition and innovation in society. But an ideal citizen in a communist society was selflessly devoted to societal causes and rarely stopped to think about his or her welfare.
"At all times and all questions a party member should give first consideration to the interests of the Party as a whole and put them in the foremost and place personal matters and interests second," wrote Liu Shaoqi, the second chair of the People's Republic of China.
The second reason for communism's failure was the system's inherent inefficiencies, such as centralized planning. This form of planning requires aggregation and synthesis of enormous amounts of data at a granular level. Because all projects were planned centrally, this form of planning was also complex. In several instances, growth data was fudged or error-prone in order to make facts fit into planned statistics and create an illusion of progress.
The concentration of power into the hands of select few also bred inefficiency and, paradoxically enough, provided them with incentives to game the system for their benefit and retain their hold on power. Corruption and laziness became endemic features of this system and surveillance, such as the one that characterized East German and Soviet societies, was common. It also disincentivized industrious and hard-working people. The end result was that the economy suffered.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/communism.asp
Think about it, Nguyen? Where is your Wall Street????lol
Another loss for you, young Nguyen.
By the way, how long do you want to go back and forth with me on here? I know I have asked you this several time on here with no reply from you. You want to go 2 more months? 5 years? 20??? Yes, you are required to answer this.
The term “brainwashing” is synonymous with totalitarian regimes like communist Vietnam. A coercive system that keeps the truth from people, and then tells them what to believe or make them face lengthy imprisonment if they disagree (no free speech = communist Vietnam). Not so in America. There is no “brainwashing” because there is free speech and free press that allows people to form their own opinions. And a nation of opinionated people we are!
Plus, there are different political parties in America that compete with each other for the votes. This process alone ensures that no one gets “brainwashed.”
Your oppressive regime on the other hand? Lol. One party, one way of thought, and every citizen in Vietnam had better be on the same thoughts as the government or off to prison (or the grave) they go! Lol, yet you consider that system of governance as “freer” than the U.S., lol.
You’ll brainwash yourself LONG before you convince me of so much as a single iota that communism is better than democracy. You’ll never succeed, Nguyen. My level of educational achievements, along with my lifespan of nearly double your little virgin 21 years of life means you can’t prevail against me on this debate.
Look, I would STRONGLY recommend that you find someone outside of your little mud hut in the fishing village that is better educated and possessing more life experience than you do to argue your foolish hypothesis for you. Because quite frankly, you suck at applying any semblance of logic to real world situations.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn I have asked you two very important questions over the last few weeks, and either you do not possess the mental capacity for higher level debate, or you are afraid of your government taking you to jail for making critical comments (if you answered the questions honestly and objectively). Either way, if you cannot, or if you refuse to answer the questions below, then you lose this debate or forfeit it outright. So, it is time for you to grow a backbone, put on your thinking cap and answer the following:
1. Explain to me how America would be better off economically and socially if we replaced democracy and adopted communism as our system of government. When I mention socially, I am looking for a you to illustrate how people would be better off (be it happier, or wealthier) if they had the same restrictions on speech and religion that exist in communist Vietnam.
2. Explain how Vietnam would be worse off if they were to adopt democracy.
I know the second question could possibly land you in “hot water” with your authorities (at least if you answer it honestly and not like some brainwashed commie).
In any event, facts have been provided by me that substantiate that most of the wealthiest nations (i.e., successful) on this planet are in fact democracies. Communist countries (including Vietnam) are not as successful as democratic economies. You can’t refute these facts.
China has been by far the most successful communist country, and you know why? And I have said this before and I will say it again; they have adopted many economic practices of the successful democratic societies.
As I alluded to in my previous statements to you, a few people making complaints about America does not mean that their opinions are valued as gold and are the very word of God. It is just an opinion based on their specific circumstances.
In any event, these criticisms do not prove your point that democracy is a failure. Did you compile critical statements from citizens in Denmark, Germany, Switzerland, Singapore, Japan, Norway, U.K.??? No, you didn’t. You only focused on American democracy. Nevertheless, our GDP is higher than the aforementioned democratic countries.
I found it outright laughable that whenever someone who has lived in America, or who is American is by default described by you as “a very intelligent person.” For example, take the 9-year-old girl that was critical of her schoolboard. How do you know she is “a very intelligent person”??? Do you know her personally? Did you see her grades? Did you see the results of her I.Q. test??? Is she the top academic performer at her school???? No. You made a baseless assumption (which seems to be the “mortar” for all your arguments thus far). She could be just an average kid in terms of intelligence, or she may be gifted, or she could have a mild learning disability. Either way, her situation does not speak to the experiences of millions of other kids located in thousands of other school boards in the U.S. I mean, I am sure she is smarter than you due to her American education and all🤣 , but just because she made a critical statement that you feel supports your argument that American democracy is an abject failure is pure nonsense and illogical to say the least.
There have got to be literally thousands of school boards throughout America. I had no complaints about my schoolboard and how they handled things in the school district that I attended. And being a member of not one but two honor societies at my college, I would say that my education during my formative years was more than adequate in preparing me for the academic success that I am today.
In case your mind has wandered a bit, I will repost those two questions from above. I expect an intelligent answer backed by facts (you can get help from someone a little smarter than you in your mud hut, dog-eating village if need be).
I could easily answer those two questions for you, but you need to do your own thinking for once and do your own work.
Here they are again (don’t start sweating now, Nguyen!):
1. Explain to me how America would be better off economically and socially if we replaced democracy and adopted communism as our system of government. When I mention socially, I am looking for a you to illustrate how people would be better off (be it happier, wealthier) if they had the same restrictions on speech and religion that exist in communist Vietnam.
2. Explain how Vietnam would be worse off if it were to adopt democracy and incorporate free speech and freedom of religion.
Remember boy, if you fail or refuse to answer these two questions, then you forfeit this debate and lose. Similarly, if you answer these two questions and they are baseless generalities that were formed from what a few so-called “very intelligent” people on YouTube said, well then you lose. You'll never make it in college if you support all your arguments with what so and so said on YouTube. lol. My professors would laugh me to scorn if I had your same approach to critical thinking and writing that you do. You'd flunk out over here in our colleges, Nguyen. Tending water buffalo and cultivating rice on your father's farm is all that you know, so leave issues of philosophy and critical debate to the those who possess the mental aptitude to carry them out.
Either way it goes, this exercise will amply demonstrate how your life experience and critical thinking skill sets are grossly inferior and fall far short of mine on every level. Because at the tender age of 21, you don’t know your butt from a hole in the ground.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn Coming from someone like yourself that has the grammar ability of a 2nd grader, I'd say the girl has you beat too! lol. Your English is lamentable to say the least. I can only imagine how you sound in person speaking English.
Moving on to the video....
And if you did not notice from watching this girl speak, she is not doing this ad lib, no, it comes from a prepared written statement.
So, your reply supports what? That the 9-year-old was exercising this democratic thing called "freedom of speech?" That is good of her. However, I do take issue with what she is saying. Everyone has a right to freedom of speech over here, yes, even the views of people that differ from each other. If the girl had an issue with a BLM poster being up, well, she is free not to look at it, just the same as those who espouse the BLM movement have a right to have their poster up to voice their displeasure over racism. So one girl has a right to say what can and cannot be put up on the wall??
She could not do that in Vietnam, that's for sure.
As someone who is not gay, I don't agree with the LGBTQ movement or gay marriage. But does that mean that such a movement and marital rights should not be allowed to exist just because I do not embrace it? No. This month (June) is recognized as "Pride Month" (in reference to LGBTQ), and I hear it on the radio all the time. Should I call in and make a complaint? That would make me a conservative then! No, liberalism is what we need more of over here. Conservatism is what you saw in Stalin's Russia or Nazi Germany.
What about your school system? Do they not teach your brand of politics too? And that is not "brainwashing?" At least over here in our school system, the subject of politics is diversified.
Liberal adults are what we need more of over here. The conservatives would like a fascist society where blacks would be back in the cotton fields with the social status of what they had 200 years ago. We have come along way as society to be more inclusive of the various cultures in this country, and this concept is part of what makes our system of governance great.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn You wrote, “Democracy will make Vietnam very unstable politically with government changing every few years, similar to other countries in Southeast Asia.”
^^^Unstable? First, define what “stability is” and secondly, what SE Asian countries are you referring to?
From my own knowledge on the subject of stability, I’d say democracy works in other parts of Asia (and the world as a whole), so why can’t it work in SE Asia?
You wrote, “Vietnam is having an advantage over those countries: stable politics and unchanging government, which is cited by Western experts themselves”
^^Your government has been around barely 45 years, whereas our government has been around 245 years. When you get to celebrate a bicentennial with your government, then you can talk about “stability.”
You wrote, “I can also sell some home made juice and meat skewers after work for some extra money tax free”
^^^I am sure glad that arrangement doesn’t exist over here. Health codes? The whole purpose of which is to ensure that people aren’t just putting anything out there for sale that could prove unhealthy to someone. What if someone has an allergy or other health issue? How would they know the ingredients beforehand?
Over here, if a licensed business that sells food fails a health code inspection, guess what? They face a fine, and possible shutdown if there are repeated violations.
You say YOU have more freedom because you can open any business in your home, you can design and build any home without asking for permission from a council. How does that take OTHERS into consideration? Over here these laws exist for the enjoyment and convenience of everyone collectively and not just one person.
Without a building permit that is approved through the local Building Department, who is to say that the work being performed is safe, or that the work was not done by a novice? With things such as installing gas lines, electrical boxes (proper gauge, etc.) these permits are necessary.
You wrote, “won’t worry about my rights being taken away because some crazy politicians just got elected by some radical people living in my town. No anti abortion law, no religious fanaticism, no gun ownership”
^^^First off, at least we get to elect our politicians, and secondly, they do not have the unilateral power to abolish or institute any new laws without the cooperation of other members of government. You mention abortion? That is a dicey subject. Some say a woman has a right to abort, the other side says, “what about the rights of the unborn?”
As for “crazy politicians”, well at least if we get any “crazy politicians”, we are only stuck with them for the term they are elected for. You on the other hand? You guys are stuck with whatever “crazy politician” you have for life! Look at Cuba, they had Fidel until he died! Look at N. Korea? They will have this whack job of a leader for the next 50 years!
You wrote, “There is nothing a Westerner does that I can not do. So there is no point of fighting for freedom. For Vietnamese people we already have freedom.”
^^^ We have already covered this point a thousand times by now, nevertheless, I will go over this one again for you: There is PLENTY that we can do that you can not do. Just for starters: 1. Freedom to speak out against our government officials (such as your “genius” 9-year-old in the video did with the school board), 2. freedom to defend ourselves with a lawfully owned weapon from a dangerous attacker, 3. The right to join any political party, 4. Vote for who we want, 5. Freedom from government intrusion into our lives, Do I really need to go on providing more examples?
You say we westerners do not understand your so-called culture? Then it would be fair to say that you Asians in communist countries do not understand our western culture either. Though other successful Asian democratic countries know better.
You wrote, “It is acceptable to criticize the government in Vietnam, even make satires and comics. However to create unrest and destabilize Vietnam, that is a crime against the Vietnamese nation.”
^^^^Now you are not being honest. Even the Vietnamese guy that lived in America (remember him from Texas?) stated in his video that you cannot say anything bad about the government. And if I am wrong? Then post a comment here saying something negative about Nguyen Xuan Phuc or one of your other government officials. Just remember, they own your internet and monitor it carefully.
You wrote, “What is better for Vietnam’s future? It is:
-Strong ambitious and long term plan for structuring Vietnamese economy and industries
-Promoting businesses and entrepreneurial culture
-Creating infrastructure -Adopting technology”
^^^You forgot to mention getting financial help from democratic America.
https://www.usaid.gov/vietnam/press-releases/apr-27-2020-united-states-provides-assistance-vietnam-respond-covid-19
Would it kill you to extend a little gratitude for the help from America, Nguyen? I get that your a diehard Marxist and all, but come now, give credit where credit is due.
Promoting businesses in a communist society where the government controls almost everything is not the same concept in America regarding the ability for
businesses to grow.
So, you neglected to say how communism would be the best option for America. It is funny how you espouse a political movement that did not even originate in your country (or even Asia for that matter). This communist theology originated with a German by the name of Carl Marx, and this movement gained traction in Russia from 1917 until it mercifully fizzled out in 1991. All the communist regimes in Europe went like dominos after that.
Well, you go on ahead and enjoy communism in Vietnam, and I’ll continue to enjoy freedom and prosperity here in the U.S. with the other 2.2 million Vietnamese that were lucky to escape with their lives. You'll say this happened over 40 years ago, but people don’t forget how their family members were murdered and their property taken by the communists.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn Is that a serious question? Think about it: If you were still in your mother's womb, would you like it if she decided to abort you????
Once sperm meets the ovum, this constitutes the start of life.
Does knowing "your father is a rapist" change the worth of your life? Doesn't matter if it was a rape, a one-night stand, or someone forgot to take the pill that month. What if the child's father was a murderous communist? Still, the unborn is not the criminal. I'll even go one further with you; what if one of your grandparent's was a rapist, does that make the prospective life less valuable?
Financially unable to support a child? That too is easy to answer: It is called ADOPTION. And there are quite a few couples that would love to have a child, but may be unable to produce one due to being sterile.
So how easy it is for me to pick apart your augments? With a more extensive education background, life experience, and critical thinking skills, you can't win a debate with me, Nguyen.
We can go each day, and everyday for the next 5 years on here if you want. Debating with you is mere child's play.
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You wrote, "No you can't elect you politician and we can. "
Well, (😂😂😂😂😂😂), if you are stupid enough to believe that, then guess what? You are a democracy!
So-called "elected" officials do not get life terms in office. They get re-elected or someone else gets elected to replace them. And this my dear boy is called democracy!
I am going to disagree with you and your so-called "knowledge" of what a "fair" election process is, because clearly you do not.
You wrote, "In Vietnam we have fair election..." lol, sure just like the notion of a "fair" trail in Vietnam.
Dude, you are so hopelessly stupid and delusion
If you want to continue wasting your time on here trying (vainly) to convert me to your outdated communist philosophy, then go ahead.
I hated the communists before you even took your first breath and I will hate them until my last day.
Oh, and Nguyen, remember those 2 questions that I asked you???? You attempted to answer one, but you failed to answer the 2nd question. You know, the one where I asked you how communism would make America a better place, and make our economy even better?
You lose, just admit if, Nguyen. I am much better educated than you are, and my life experience far exceeds yours. You are just a boy at 21 and know nothing outside of you mud hut village on your father's rice farm. lol
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn And another reason why your arguments are so thoroughly imbecilic is that they are predicated on what one or two people say on some YouTube videos. Got news for you, kid, objective opinions do not carry the weight of subjective facts. And with your debate and logic strategy (and I use the term "logic" very loosely here), you'll lose every time (even to a 9-year-old girl in America).
It is funny how you stick up for communism like it is your very own culture; something that you can be proud of. I can assure you it is not. No, it is a political philosophy that originated in Europe. The Vietnamese culture got by just fine before the entrance of communism, and it will do much better without it. Other former communist nations have got along great without communism and have successfully moved on with democracy, and Vietnam will do well too. Food for thought, boy.
Japan and Singapore have it better than you do.
Time to wake up, Nguyen. With each passing decade you can see the decline in numbers of communist countries. Just use your common sense for all of 2 seconds here; if communism is/was so great, then why are there less communist countries now? And for those that do remain, why are they behind economically than democratic countries?
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn I wouldn't have voted for Biden? Since when did you even vote in an American election?
I am clearly better educated than you. Assuming you could vote over here, you would have to be a moron to vote for Trump.
I am not a conservative if you haven't deduced that by now. I am clearly liberal for the most part and that is why I voted for Biden (as did most other college-educated people).
Paranoid conspiracy crackpots, and conservatives with only a high-school education flocked to Trump. He is the first cult leader elected as president. Mercifully enough his time is over. Had he been "elected" in Vietnam, you'd have him for life. lol
Mass shooting? Do you smoke meth or something, or are you just naturally gifted as stupid?
Mass shooting have occurred before Trump was in office, while Trump was in office, and when he left office. So, how did Trump make a positive impact on mass shooting? What did he do? lol
Ever since Trump left office, it appears that the tempo of craziness and riots has subsided considerably.
"Defund the police", yeah, when did that actually transform from a far-left saying into action? Your political philosophy called communism was involved in the riots too. Ever hear of Antifi? Look it up. They don't have the communist hammer and sickle on their shields because they think it is a cool looking emblem.
Parents getting arrested for speaking out? No, they were arrested because they committed some kind of other crime. Freedom of speech isn't a crime over here like it is in communist Vietnam. People in your oppressive regime get arrested for speaking out, our people get arrested when they break the law. Seems only fair.
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@chithiennguyen1371 Compared to you? I am quite the economist, politician, and historian! lol Because you know absolutely NOTHING! You are a raging buffoon with 3rd grade elementary logic. You are not even good at pretending like you know what you are talking about. lol
Go ahead and take a moment to wish all of us patriotic, freedom-loving Americans “Happy Independence Day”, Nguyen! We celebrate today with 245 years of prosperous democratic heritage, and we are not fading from the world stage yet! Lol. Patriotic Americans of all cultural backgrounds are celebrating this holiday across our great nation. Yes, even the 2.2 “very intelligent” Vietnamese that found freedom in America have much to be grateful for. They know all too well about oppression in communist Vietnam from over 40 years ago (nothing has changed with the passing of time) and the freedom they enjoy today.
You sure are having a difficult time processing the fact that you lost this debate long ago. But it is like that with small-peckered (small Asian penis syndrome), bird-brained individuals like yourself. In fact, not only did you lose the whole “Communism vs. Democracy” debate, but you also lost all those peripheral debates as well. And you know why? Because you are a moron, a buffoon of epic proportions. You may be the one person that is actually dumber than Trump. And believe me, he is an idiot with few equals. Lol.
I mean, I gave you chance after wasted chance to pitch your cause and make your case stand. I was willing to listen and made it very straightforward by giving you two (2) simple questions to answer, and all you could do was make a weak and fruitless attempt to answer one question with support from YouTube videos, and you utterly FAILED to even attempt to answer the other question. Oh well, sucks to be you! Ah, the hubris of the vanquished (you)! Lol! YouTube videos are not solid evidence, rather they are objective opinions that carry no weight in serious debate circles.
It really stands out in my mind just how pathetic your really are, Nguyen. I almost feel sorry for you (almost that is). At one point you stated that you would not know what life was in your mother’s womb, and that you would not want to be born to a family that does not want you. LOL!!! Wake up, cupcake! If an embryo is not able to process what life is, then common sense should tell you that they would not know what rejection is either! STUPID! When did smoking crack become legal over there in Vietnam? Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were growing up? Do you sniff glue on a daily basis?
Anyways, you have not convinced me in support of your worthless and uneducated peasant opinion.
What’s for dinner tonight, Nguyen? Is your mom making French Bulldog stew? Lol!!!!! Perhaps a Great Dane Kung Pao! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know you are jealous of our great heritage and economic prosperity over here in America, but hey, that is just the way it is. But you know what? If our economy did take a nosedive, it would have a ripple effect that would spill over into an economic disaster felt around the world and would include your country and countless other countries as well.
Your country would be much better off if you just let the Chinese take over and occupy Vietnam.
You are tactless and VERY unsophisticated in every way, Nguyen. Your best so-called insult was to say that “ALL” American service members are “gay” and no citizen want to join the U.S. military. That would be a typical response from someone in 3rd grade elementary school, which is probably as far as you went with your rice field peasant education. Over 1 million Americans serving, and you say, “no one wants to serve.” Lol. Sure, that is why the government over here has not had a draft in over 50 years, which means that the 1 million serving did this neat thing called “volunteer” for the service. An alien concept in socialist countries where military service is often compulsory.
Anyways, you have bigger problems looming in your not-too-distant future by 2050.
Consider this:
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/scientists-triple-their-estimates-of-the-number-of-people-threatened-by-rising
Better get your raft ready! Too bad (laughter 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣) your beloved bastion of Russian inspired socialism Ho Chi Minh city, and most of southern Vietnam will be UNDERWATER, LOL!!!!!!
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@chithiennguyen1371
Your “great” leader Nguyen Xuan Phuc (lol) speaks like a simpleton. You can tell his education level is VERY limited in scope! I’ll bet that 9-year-old girl that you were so impressed with is smarter than he is! Lol I like his egg-shaped head and his comb over to hide his hair loss. lol
Now on with a reply of mine to answer and debunk more of your brainless rants….
You wrote, “haha this is so funny, you said you can burn the American flag and talk trash about the US government, so what about the LGBT+? They are representing the Democracy”
The first part is absolutely correct. I can “talk trash” about my leaders, government and burn my nation’s flag if I so desire (as can anybody else over here). But the second part?? What about LGBT+??? How do you figure they “represent” democracy?
You have LGBT+ people in your country too (take yourself for example). Do they represent communism? No, and they don’t represent democracy either. And you know why? Simple. Homosexuality existed long before democracy, and the existence of democracy is not the cause and effect of LGBTQ. The only link between democracy and LGBTQ+ is that democracy allows for LGBTQ people to live here without fear or intimidation from the government or discrimination from fellow citizens. Same can be said for Muslims, Jews, Amish people or any other group that lives here.
Like I said, we have Muslims here. Does that infer that Islam represents democracy in America just because they are allowed to practice their faith without hindrance?
So, again. Your reasoning is simply stupid. Lol.
The only one that thinks that LBGTQ+ is somehow representing democracy is YOU. Lol. What an idiot, lol!!!! 😂😂🤣 Now that is too funny! Here, let me quote you again here, “…so what about the LGBT+? They are representing the Democracy.” LOL!!!! No, they are not, I can assure you.
LGBTQ+ represent themselves and have the freedom to do so, and that is where their so-called "representation" ends for them.
After all, since we have far more heterosexuals over here (which is evidenced by our growing population), does this sexual orientation group represent democracy? Lol!!! Every country has heterosexuals and gays, right? Lol.
Look Nguyen, GO GET AN EDUCATION. Displaying your blind stupidity on here day after pitiful day is not doing you any favors to be quite frank with you.
Nguyen, you are such a “intellectual” lightweight; a wannabe philosopher. You are too inexperienced in life and too stupid to argue any salient points with anyone with the same education as you that exceeds the 3rd grade peasant education that you have.
And if you haven’t figured it out yet, I have not and will not read any of your comments beyond the “Read more” part of your comment. It is just not worth my time arguing with a tactless clown like yourself. If I were to do so, then you would have to set up a PayPal account and pay me $40 U.S. dollars an hour for my counseling to you (poor as you are, you can’t afford even half that amount).
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@chithiennguyen1371 Has plenty to do with Vietnam. Doesn't matter if you are responsible for it directly or not. But unless everyone and every business in your country does not use gasoline powered vehicles and your factories do not emit pollutants into the air, then yes, your country is responsible for it just the same as other countries.
If you import products from countries that use gasoline and have factories that emit emissions into the air, then you are just as culpable with regards to global warming as any other country.
Last I heard, Vietnam is FAR from a "green" country that relies solely upon wind mills and solar panels.
You communists are sure good at evading any responsibility and pointing fingers at everyone else. So, I'll go ahead and predict your next move on this topic (it will save you loads of time)...
You will respond, "lol, the U.S. produces more waste and pollutants than Vietnam, lol." Even got your little "lol" included.
And I would not disagree on that point (it is not like I don't already know that). That's just the way it is with having one of the largest industrial infrastructures on the planet. Nevertheless, we will soon be leading the way with green energy. And for the sake of Vietnam, you BETTER hope we succeed at green energy. Otherwise, bye bye Vietnam to rising sea levels. Just be little Nguyen (by 2050, an older man instead of a mindless kid in 2021) on an inner tube tire floating on your way to China! LOL!!!!
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@chithiennguyen1371 I like this one! A guy gets over 3 years for teaching a subject matter that dared to differ from the mighty communist party.
Yep, lol, that' "freedom" alright! LOL!! 🤣🤣😄 But then again, had he done this in America, nothing would have happened to him. Free speech, Nguyen, free speech. It is totally freaking awesome, but you wouldn't know anything about that! 😂😂😂
"The first time Thiện was imprisoned, it was for teaching a high school history class in which he contradicted the government’s account of how Japan was defeated in World War II. He spent three and a half years in reeducation camps, where he began composing and memorizing poems with no pen or paper. He was released briefly in 1966, then sent back to jail again for his “politically irreverent” poetry. He spent another 11 years and five months in labor camps, until 1977, when he was released to make room for officers of the Republic of Vietnam."
https://www.michigandaily.com/arts/prison-poet-and-hero-nguyen-chi-thien/
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn Did you go riding on your Moped again today? Bundle up, cupcake! It could rain on Tuesday.
Must be nice living at home with mom and dad, who in turn live with one of your grandparents. They need all the help they can get though. You know, since none of you make more than $400 U.S. dollars for the entire month. That’s right, so-called “poor” people in Mississippi and West Virginia will average $24,700 (568,100,000.00 dong), and you know what? They don’t have to eat cats and dogs to survive. They also don’t have to ride gay mopeds, and eat rice with every single meal, every single day! LOL!!!!
Their oral hygiene is better too. So, go get on your little moped, Nguyen, and find a cozy little diner on some dirty street corner in your poor fishing village that will fix you up a warm meal of dog meat served on white rice (of course, lol), and have some Nuoc Mam Cham to drizzle on your dog meat, lol!!!
Nguyen, you squeaky high-pitched voice, scrawny lightweight, with big rotten, brown teeth. LOL!!!! Eat rice with everything, right? LOL I’ll bet you have fast food businesses that specialize in cat and dog meat. Is there Dog-fil-A in town? Lol. Perhaps a Burger Dog fast food chain in your rat-infested, little hole in the ground of a town? Lol.
Here, read another article. This one shows how the democratic U.S. is/was helping poor Vietnam with a 5-year plan. If it were up to me, you guys would get NOTHING unless you gave up communism and accepted democracy.
https://borgenproject.org/facts-about-poverty-in-vietnam/
Note the part where they stated, “The United States has been strategizing with Vietnam to transform it into a more sustainable developing country and partner. A five-year plan was developed in 2014 where $86 million is being allocated to improve trade, grow the private sector and develop higher education.”
Because I got to tell ya, it is not like America owes anything to Vietnam for our prosperity and position on the world stage. Chomp on that fact, little jealous, communist weasel. We are successful and you are not. You even envy Taiwan (as you should too), they have it much better than you do in communist Vietnam.
Down with communism! Yes, with each passing decade more and more communist countries are giving up their outdated and oppressive system.
Democracy? More and more countries are adopting our system. And you know why? It has been going strong for more than 200 years with no sign of ever letting up.
“A LONG-TERM BATTLE: REMAINING CAUSES OF POVERTY IN VIETNAM”
https://borgenproject.org/remaining-causes-of-poverty-in-vietnam/
From this article: “With Vietnam having emerged as a lower middle-income country in 2010, all eyes are turned to its economy. Historically, almost all of Vietnam’s production has been handled by its government, weakening its private sector.”
^^^What does that say? “lower middle-income country in 2010” and the root cause? YOUR government, since it controls EVERYTHING. Facts are facts, Nguyen. America is one of the wealthier counties on the planet, and has been this way before 2010.
I mean, look at all that trash being hauled by the guy on a MOPED in the picture of that article!!!! LOL!!!!! Roach infested, filthy sheets. He hauls it like it is gold! For us? That stuff is ready for the trash heap or burn pile.
Since I know that you are well aware of the fact that you will NEVER convince me of the same brainwashed propaganda that your government has instilled in you about the so-called "superiority of communism", I think at this point it is not me that you are trying to convince, no, rather you are trying to convince yourself. Because, I really don’t care if you like America or democracy or not.
You can continue to live in abject poverty and lack of freedom, and I’ll continue to enjoy both economic prosperity, home ownership, and drive my car (yeah, not a gay, little moped) and continue to reap the benefits of the good life here in the U.S. And you know what? The 2.2 million Vietnamese that live in the U.S. will continue to enjoy a much higher standard of living. A living that does not put them in the position to eat cats and dogs.
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Chí Thiện Nguyễn Yeah, that made no sense whatsoever. Your stupidity is truly boundless...🤣
Yeah, there is no "if" in reference to poor people in Vietnam eating dog, they DO eat dog. lol
Poor American's eat beef??? Got news for you, pal, American's from all socio-economic backgrounds eat beef. From poor to rich. Yes, even your dear friend John Cena (the guy you thought was America's official spokesperson) eats beef.
Eating dogs on the otherhand? Not even poor people in America would eat that. You could not give dog meat away to any poor people over here.
In America, a dog is referred to as "man's best friend", not "Man's best meal." Eating dogs is for savages, and desperate people in a war-ravaged country where food is scarce.
You say dog meat is expensive? By your poor standards it may be. But over here? Dogs are too common.
Here, check this video on a Steakhouse in this video.
https://youtu.be/hqB_TTCE-3U?t=2
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