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@silverhost9782 (I did reply to this but seems to have gone)
You do raise a fair argument, however i think Repulse can do the same, she has the firepower and protection to deal with anything the invasion forces have that are covering the landings at Malaya, however with the added option of being able to run them down if the Japanese do run for it.
Now i will grant you Prince of Wales can handle any single battleship or Kongo (I say those are Battlcrusiers not Battleships) the Japanese have with the exception of the Yamato, though Repulse can outrun the Japanese battleships so they would still need to tie the battleships to the invasion in order to make sure Repulse doesn't attack them so she could still tie major resources, the only ships the Japanese have that can catch Repulse are the Kongo's and in that situation i'd say its a coin toss who wins, Repulse as few guns but hers are bigger and its only 8 to 6 so not to big a gap and Repulse does have a marginal advantage over a Kongo in protection but both ships guns can penetrate the other, were as Prince of Wales can comfortabily take on a Kongo or two. Now i will agree Prince of Wales has much better AA defence then Repulse so if the Japanse Carriers arrive Prince of Wales is in a much better posistion than Repulse.
However i feel regradless of which of the two ships is holding Malaya, if the Japanese are in the posistion of thinking of sending Kongo's, Battleships and Carriers, they would be using at least part of the Kido Butai to bring overwhemling firepower to sweep the seas clear and in that situation either ship would have to retreat as i don't think either ship could stand up to that.
I think it comes down to weather want you a ship to scare and/or fight off what the Japanese had at the time (Which i think is Repulse given she can fight and catch them if they do run) or what they might bring in reponce to that ship attacking the invasion fleet (Which i think is Prince of Wales due to better AA and better protection).
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@bkjeong4302 Well their were some very good reasons to do the raid, first the British didn't know Tirpitz wasn't going to sail out and even if they had the Germans could very quickly change their mind and Tirpitz did pose a major risk to convoy's if she got out even a small amount of time running around could have done a lot of damage.
Also it has to be born in mind that the situation had got worse for the UK when Chariot was launched in march 1942, first losses, the British had lost HMS Hood during Bismarcks sortie and while in need or repair Hood was still a significant loss in terms of fast capital units also later in 1941 the British had lost the Carrier Ark Royal so the Royal Navy was down two major capital units right off and they were keeping the fast units in the Home Fleet for exact theis reason to stop a major sortie byt the Germans.
Second was geography, when Bismarck sailed in 1941 the British had their fleets concentrated in the Med and Home Fleet now while stretched they could support each other as seen with Force H going out to hunt Bismarck, but in December 1941 and early 1942 the Med campaign was getting quite heated so pulling forces from there was a non-option and the Pacific war had kicked off which had taken two more of the Royal Navies fast Capital units and for a while one of its carriers so Royal Navy force were stretched even thiner, plus the US Navy was still smarting after Pearl Harbour and had yet to fight Midway so the US was fleet was worrying more a about the Japanese fleet and early successes the Japanese were having so support from the US would be tricky.
Also going back to point one the Royal Navy lost both Repulse and Prince of Wales soon after they were sent and a carrier was damaged before that, also in mid December 1941 the Italians sank HMS Valient and Queen Elizabeth in Alexanderia taking them out of the fight for a while stretching the Med forces even thiner, so they were now down four capital ships sunk permanently and two temporary and all of the permemant ones had been mustered to counter Bismarcks sailing in 1941 as they were the fast capitol unit.
So all it took was a bit of luck and maybe something pulling more Royal Navy forces to the Med or far east allowing the Tirpitz to get out and cause havoc and yes the British had and could have got the forces to deal with her quickly but that would mean either waiting till they had the forces freed to deal with her which wasn't an option if she was playing merry hell with the convoy's so they would have to risk weakening areas that really couldn't afford it.
So given that i would say yes Cariot was needed, yes a lot of this is hypothetical but its not outside the releams of possibility, but if St Nazaire was out of action the Germans wouldn't have sent her out which meant the Royal Navy didn't need to worry about her, but if they had risked it and Tirpitz had sailed and got out she could have been an almighty headache a short temporary one yes, but the force needed to put her down could have a negative impact on more vital fronts.
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@DidMyGrandfatherMakeThis First my comments were for the unit and Itlian Navy as a whole. Yes the manned Torpedo pilot and the man piloting the boat did commit Kamikaze attacks , but that wasn't the plan it was the situation that caused those, the former was a personal one and is questionable i grant, but the latter was a sacrifice to allow his comrades to try and continue the mission which has been shown many times, the men who mined the British Battleships didn't commit to Kamikaze acts they followed the plan which was what the other two groups did which was place the mines then swim to shore and try walking, back the two men on the Valient were actually very brave they held their nerve till just before the mine went off before requesting to get out from below decks meaning the British couldn't do anything to stop the mine going off.
The use of small boats and minisubs was because they could do the job and gave the Italians the best chance to success, the British did the same thing with the X-craft on Tirpitz using a battleship to attack down a fjord was sucide, so the British plan was to use the X-craft to sneak in place the mines then sneak out again, the same was true with the Italians sneak in to the place the explosives and ideaily get out, but the plans went wrong which led to the wiping out or capture of the of the units involved.
Also both of these attacks took place in 1941 and in 1941 the Italian Navy was a very potent and effective force, minus the commanders, the Roma's were easily able to beat a QE and R class which is what the Royal Navy had, in fact right up to the moment of the Italian surrender the Italian Navy was still a threat, in fact they possed a much bigger threat to the Allies than the Germans ever did, the Royal Navy had Furious, Ark Royal, Eagle and at least three of their armoured carriers in the Med to hold the Italians back the Armoured carriers took a heck of pasteing during their time there.
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