Comments by "MRA" (@yassassin6425) on "Exposed: Apollo 11 Moon landing conspiracy theories | Just The FAQs" video.
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@neilarmstrongsson795
"There's nothing particular "clever" about science, it's not infallible nor is it exacting in many areas."
And yet here you are using a device that lets you instantly share this asinine claim with people all over the world. You live in a world that has been shaped by the effectiveness of the scientific method. It's a lot easier to hide behind a conspiracy theory than it is to learn the mathematics and applied science involved. Of course it isn't "infallible" - that's precisely how the scientific method advances. And naturally, the junk conspiracy theory that you defer to is completely infallible, accurate, informed, reliable and dependable? Righto then.
Perhaps visit a department of aerospace engineering, or an astrophysics academic conference - tell them that there's nothing 'clever' about their science, tell them you know better because Bart Sibrel said so - and don't forget to let them know that the University of You Tube sent you.
"In fact there is so much that we don't know or that has any explanation, and likely never will."
Absolutely, but science is committed to pushing those boundaries, expanding the frontiers of our knowledge and there is much that we will continue to discover as a species.
"But you bought into all that 'clever stuff' didn't you, they made you believe it."
Science is not a question of belief - it must be evidenced, testable, reproducible, and ultimately, falsifiable. I am irrelevant to this exchange. The known science that you are in contention with is governed by physical laws and mathematical axioms, it thereby is demonstrable and has a voice of its own.
But you bought into all this dumb conspiracy stuff didn't you? They made you believe it.
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@Mitchell-lc5kj
So you completely ignored my response. If the moon is made of a gaseous state, tell me why it doesn't behave that way and how we can determine the geology of the moon using spectrometry? How is it that rock and soil samples have been not only returned to Earth but validated by an entire branch of science called geology and through independent petrological analysis. Explain the cyclic phases of the moon and how you can discern its surface features yourself using a cheap backyard telescope or a cheap pair of binoclulars?
To answer your question, the surface of the moon is largely composed of igneous rock . It has no light of its own and the reason we see it is that it reflects the Sun's light. The Moon revolves around the Earth approximately once every 28 days orbiting on a plane that is almost aligned with the orbital plane of the Earth around the Sun. The lunar orbit just means that the relative position of the Moon and Sun in the sky changes over the course of approximately a month. They are completely independent of one another. Sometimes they appear close to one another in the sky; sometimes they are at opposite sides of the Earth. While the moon is out in the daytime the sun is generally too bright, or the unlit side of the moon is towards earth, for the moon to be visible. The moon orbits the earth, while the earth orbits the sun. It is inevitable, given that both motions are very roughly in the same plane (very roughly in mathematical terms), that sometimes the moon will be inside the earth's orbit, (daylight visible) and sometimes out (night visible). Based on the orbital geometry of the Moon, there will certainly be times where the Sun will partially illuminate the Moon, during the day and at night. During the new moon, the moon is between the sun and the Earth, the side of the moon that is lit by the sun is facing away from our planet. This means that the moon is still up there, but we canāt see it in the daytime, because all of the sunās light is getting reflected away from us.
As the moon continues in its orbit around the Earth, away from the sun, increasingly more of its sunlit surface is visible. This is why the moon sometimes appears as a crescent or half-moon. When itās farther from the sun and visible above the horizon, itās easier to spot during the day.
This isn't even high school science.
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Which one? There were hundreds. You mean the official post mission press conference? You only find it 'weird' because online conspiracy theory has told you what to think. You obviously haven't watched the entire footage from start to finish, rather appropriated excerpts from junk conspiracy videos and supposed documentaries that have omitted them laughing and joking.
Having undertaken a rigorous and exhausting programme of training consisting of six day weeks for six months, the mental and physical demands and intensity of the eight day mission, immediate quarantine for three weeks directly before - not to mention the prospect of an exhaustive and exhausting programme of P/R press conferences during a gruelling world tour consisting of 29 cities in 24 countries in 38 days...you really expect them to be bouncing off the walls with enthusiasm? Neil Armstrong in particular was a particularly introverted, private, shy and modest individual. A demonstrably brave test pilot and astronaut, but the thought of being paraded around the world must have filled him with utter dread. However,, characters such as Pete Conrad, Al Shepard, Charlie Duke, Eugene Cernan and Ron Evans all had far more ebullient personalities. Perhaps you should also watch the post mission press conferences for Apollo 12, 14, 15, 16, 17 and even the aborted Apollo 13 landing that your conspiracy theory never mentions? Whilst at it, find footage and images of them beaming after recovery in the Mobile Quarantine Trailer or on the deck of the USS Hornet
Frankly if that's all it takes to convince you, it's hardly surprising that people of your ilk are the target market for these conmen and frauds that perpetrate crap online conspiracy theory.
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Seriously. Why are you attempting to make authoritative statements from ignorance and incredulity and in the complete absence of knowledge about the science, technology and history of the Apollo Programme? Why are you under the illusion that you, a random, insignificant gullible conspiracy theory believer on the comments section of You Tube know better than entire branches of science and specialist fields of expertise such as aerospace engineering, computer science and rocketry worldwide?
"SpaceX's self-landing rockets are exceptional in the 2020's."
This is much harder to accomplish than in 1/6thg and in the absence of an atmosphere.
"Yet, we believe "The Eagle" pulled it off in '69 using a computer with >0.00001% of the compute with >0.00001% of the processing."
What does this even mean? Nothing to do with what anyone 'believes'. Learn about it. The AGC was very compact and a brilliant piece of kit. What you people fail to understand is the fact that it was purpose-built, and did what was required incredibly well. It also could handle overloads by resetting itself without losing the instruction stack it had which was prewritten onto rope core memory, and would re prioritise those commands on the fly. IBM engineers also developed the mini integrated circuits that meant computers could be small enough to fit inside a rocket or spacecraft. It was a brilliant piece of technology for the time. You also likely had no idea that this was supported on the ground by the Real-Time Computer Complex (RTCC) which was an IBM computing and data processing system at NASA's Manned Spacecraft Center in Houston. It collected, processed and sent to Mission Control the information needed to direct every phase of an Apollo mission. It computed what the space vehicle was doing and compared that with what it should be doing. RTCC worked in real-time -- so fast, there was virtually no time between receiving and solving a computing problem. IBM 7094-11 computers were used in the RTCC during NASA's Gemini program and on the first three Apollo/Saturn missions. Later, IBM System/360 Model 75J mainframes, plus peripheral storage and processing equipment, were employed. Two computers were used during a mission: one was primary; the other operated identically but as standby.
Retro-landing The Eagle was suicidal; never done before"
What do you mean, "retro landing the Eagle? The approach radar antenna was mounted on the lower exterior surface of the Lunar Module. The signal from the antenna was fed to a continuous wave doppler radar set that controlled the powered landing. This instrument provided velocity, slant and altitude measurement data to the guidance computer used to manage the retrorockets that slowed the descent of the LM. The LMās descent to the lunar surface was broken up into three phases: braking, approach, and landing. Each phase was handled by a separate program in the computer: P63, P64, and P66. The Commander took over āmanualā control during the landing phase, however, this was a misnomer. The āmanualā mode during the landing phase was actually known as āattitude holdā because the computer was still responsible for the highly challenging task of maintaining the LMās attitude. The Commanderās job was to tell the computer how fast to descend and which direction to move via stick inputs. The computer adjusted the engine throttle and fired the maneuvering thrusters to make it happen, all while balancing the LM on its engine output and making adjustments for the changing mass/weight of the LM as it burned fuel. Both Commander and computer were instrumental in the final landing phase.
"impossible to train"
Absolutely false. The LLRV and the LLTV were built precisely for this purpose, whilst the crews racked up hundreds of hours in the lander simulator at Johnson Space Centre. Also the LM was tested during Apollo 5, a manned test as part of Apollo 9 and flown to within 47,000 feet of the lunar surface by Apollo 10's Eugene Cernan and Tom Stafford. You simply haven't got the remotest idea what you are talking about.
"NASA may claim Armstrong did it first-time and was able to take off again without any checks/maintenance to the mechanism."
Of course they ran checks before the ascent engine was primed. Specifically, what maintenance are you referring to?
Seriously, you are embarrassing yourself. Why do you feel the need to comment?
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Fascinating. But which one and how have you determined this? - and what about the fact that Kubrick's whereabouts and projects were fully accountable during all six of the Apollo landings. Was he also commissioned to film the aborted Apollo 13 mission? A soundstage in London? Righto then. Surely it was Shepperton? That's what they say...no wait, some suggest it was Pinewood or Elstree. Actually, can't we agree on Twickenham? Hold on a minute, I'm sure it was supposed to have been Hollywood. No, no, what about the hangar at Cannon AFB, New Mexico? Nope, it was definitely Area 51, Groom Lake Nevada. Hang on, wasn't it supposed to have been shot in the Utah outback? No, no, it was without doubt the Arizona desert...or was that Death Valley California? And what of Devon Island?
You absolute goons can't even get your stories straight. I guess it depends upon which dumb conspiracy theorist that you allow yourselves to be duped by.
Got to say though, that must be some 'Soundstage in London" to convincingly replicate, uncut, the 1/6th gravity and the vacuum of the lunar surface - not to mention the precise reconstruction of Theophilus in The Sea of Tranquility; the Head Crater vicinity, Ocean of Storms; the Fra Mauro Formation near Cone Crater; the eastern edge of Mare Imbrium, Hadley Rille; The Descartes Highlands; and the eastern edge of Mare Serenitati in the Taurus Littrow Valley. Shout out to the props department too, that managed to fashion fake moonrock consistent which each of those six landing sites and collectively dupe an entire branch of science called geology for over half a century in the process.
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@Mitchell-lc5kj
"You probably didnāt graduate high school. You are very gullible and naĆÆve."
To clarify...you think that the moon is "made of gaseous state", that the moon landings were shot at a London soundstage by Stanley Kubrick because social media told you so, and you don't understand why you can see "the sun and half the moon in the same sky." And I'm the "gullible and naive one that probably didn't graduate high school"? Righto then. You realise that everything that I am telling you is taught in high school? Kind of contradicted yourself there didn't you champ!
"The moon rocks were fake"
Fascinating. I repeat, despite being examined by an entire branch of science called geology and independently tested in analytical laboratories worldwide and rocks gifted to 135 countries...yes, I'll say that again, 135 countries, some random dumb conspiracy believer on the comments section of You Tube that thinks the moon is a ball of gas, now claims that the moon rocks were faked.
Sigh, since - and only because - I find you goons so unintentionally amusing, go ahead then genius, demonstrate how that you have established that the Apollo moon rocks were "faked". Surely, surely, you can't be about to parrot the supposed Dutch moon rock/petrified wood again?
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@RealidadeDaTerra
Your comment is shadow banned.
384,400 km to be more precise - and yes, there was a delay. Like I suggested, you really need to stop mindlessly consuming and regurgitating junk online conspiracy theory about subjects that you have no comprehension of. The communication signal speed is the same as the speed of light. The moon is 384,400 km away. The speed of light is 299,792 km/s. This means, even considering additional time delays through relays and equipment that would equate to a fraction over 3 seconds.
However, this was only in one direction. Since the recording of the conversation took place on Earth, and Nixon was also on Earth, as soon as the astronautās voice is heard, Nixon can and does answer immediately and we hear it immediately and without delay. The time delay is only apparent when Nixon finishes a sentence⦠we donāt hear a reply from the astronauts for about three seconds⦠about 1.5 seconds for Nixonās voice to get to the moon, and another 1.5 second for the astronauts reply to return to the Earth.
There are also edited versions of the exchange on some documentaries that have removed this lag.
Why is it even necessary to explain this?
"Your science, your science."
It's not "my science" - it's nothing to do with me since it can be objectively verified and if you had the slightest understanding of it you wouldn't have posted such nonsense in the first place.
"Wake up"
Never ceases to amuse, that ones that still insist on parroting this dumb clichƩ are the ones that slept through science classes.
"you are just a child."
Said the naive believer in puerile online conspiracy theory.
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This again? Seriously, how many times? Don Petit never said anything of the sort you complete clown.
Pettit, speaking in 2017 used an unfortunate turn of phrase - "destroyed". Since then, conspiracy theorists and those that parrot their nonsense have obsessively fixated upon it because that's what they do. However, if you have a modicum of intelligence, critical faculty, integrity and the will to objectively appraise the information that you receive and you place his sentence within it's full and intended context, then it's abundantly clear what he is referring to. The premature cancellation of Apollo in 1972 due to the retraction of funding from congress and the lack of political and public will, resulted in the abandonment of the specific expertise, the tooling, the production processes, the plants and most significantly, the heavy lift capability that sent crewed missions to the moon. Emphasis was placed instead on low Earth orbit, primarily, the development of the Space Shuttle which promised much, but failed to deliver in terms of it's commercial and financial returns and launch cadence. The other huge project was obviously the construction of the ISS. Neither of which send man to the surface of the moon. Deep space exploration became the preserve of unmanned missions - robotic landers and probes, far cheaper and without the risk. Pettit was speaking prior to the approval of Project Artemis that will return man to the surface of the moon. The technology of Apollo is old and obsolete but since much of the hardware remains, you can understand that his use of the word 'destroyed' was metaphorical. Rebuilding a manned programme to the moon using modern technology that has superseded that of Apollo has been a protracted and painstaking process on a budget that is a fraction of that of Apollo.
Why is it even necessary to explain this?...over and over and over again?
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