Comments by "robs2020" (@sbor2020) on "UK should 'rejoin Dublin regulation' to stop migrants from safe countries says immigration lawyer" video.

@gweilo965 Your culture war leader (or Anführer eines Kulturkampfes ), Lee Anderson asked Suella Braverman in the Commons, Does she agree that anybody fleeing persecution should claim asylum in the first safe country they come to ? Now why does Anderson say should and not "must" or "have to"? Even your führer knows that registering in the "first safe country" is a myth! You clearly do not. You're repeating your far-right talking points
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Because they are asylum seekers, and they are not illegal until their claim for refugee status is rejected. International law made by the United Nations. Repeating right-wing talking points doesn't make it right now, does it?
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@gweilo965 You are in this "cult of ignorance". What you call "far-left propaganda" is in fact international law enshrined by the United Nations' UNHCR. You want the UK to withdrawal from the UN too?
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@gweilo965 And as for the ECHR, that has nothing to do with the EU. Do you even care about humanity, let alone human rights or are you simply insufferable?
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@greyvoice7949 OK, let’s stick with international law. Can you point to a piece of international legislation that states that refugees must claim in the “first safe Country”. You will have then have proven me to be stupid. Evidence please!!
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@georgerj2419 Is it about reasoning or law? So I also ask you to point to a piece of international legislation that states that refugees must claim in the “first safe Country”. Evidence please!!
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@greyvoice7949 I can wait, take your time: the piece of international legislation that states that refugees must claim in the “first safe Country”.
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@greyvoice7949 Where in the 1951 convention on refugees?
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@angelawatson7740 You reason with irrationality. Granted the UK should cede their seat on the UN Security Council, it should be a temporary seat given to the country holding the EU presidency. Adidas were founded by a Nazi, but Hugo Boss made uniforms for the NSDAP. As for your main claims, of course these are not supported, because, how can you? Do want the UK to be isolated, to be able to tortune and imprison with impunity? Do you really want a fascist state? You are clearly caught up in political fanaticism.
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@angelawatson7740 I know the answer to the question I posed. So who "owns" the UN then?
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It was the "sick man of Europe" and it was the reason that it joined the EU. How does 1972/3 compare to 2022/3?
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@greyvoice7949 Blah, blah, yeah, yeah, revert to type when confronted with the reality that doesn’t conform to your feelings and beliefs. Anyway, don’t divert; I am still waiting in anticipation that you can come up with an international law that supports your beliefs.
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@leighparr7961 Presumptious twerp
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@greyvoice7949 More blah, blah. should blah, stupid people blah . We are dealing with international law. So can you find me a law that provides the grounds for refugees having to claim asylum in the first “safe country” ? Then we can move on to the particularities of my bias, my stupidity, my wasted education, not to mention my “filter bubble”. Over to you!
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@greyvoice7949 We are not dealing with the historical context of the post WWII era, neither are we discussing the interpretation of the law; that is a whole new kettle of fish. As David Hume said, you cannot derive an “ought” from an “is”. In other words, you cannot say about what should happen – by making a value judgement, such as “the government should send these refugees packing!” Instead you have to focus on what is and what can be supported by evidence based policy, and international legislation. I am not standing in judgement as to whether the law is “good” or “bad”. Neither am I making any judgment as to the government policy. I am merely asking you to reflect on what is the law, and whether you have been misinformed by your sources.
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@julielunn7916 Ooh, an uppity GeeBee! Care to explain.
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@IBIZABIKE Why are you complaining to me about international law?
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@lizbosh7545 What did I write that appeared gleeful to see our country destroyed ? Explain!
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@IBIZABIKE You are complaining to me about international law, precisely because you were led to believe something not to be the case, namely that refugees must register in the first safe country . How were you misinformed? Did you believe the right-wing commentators? Your answer to this deception? Shoot the messenger, or what your right-wing commentators expect you to do, continue to believe the lie, and thereby you become delusional and fiercely defend your position. You then throw dismissives at those who what Havel called “living in truth”. I’d call that small minded.
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@IBIZABIKE Nothing enters your understanding. It's like a dog listening to classical music. Ich mighÞ aſ weī̆ple usæ bordar Saxọ̄̆nlī!
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@Aneebanana1 The ECHR is a completely different institution to the EU. Who voted for the UK to join Russia and Belarus outside the ECHR? Who voted for a government to weaken human rights in the UK? The Rights Removal Bill will make it much harder for people to get justice if their rights have been abused. The oppressor would not be so strong if he did not have accomplices among the oppressed . Simone de Beauvoir
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@georgerj2419 Indeed I did, The discussion centred on where it says in the Refugee Convention or the Dublin Agreement that refugees must register in the first safe country ? Short answer: nowhere.
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If you have evidence for such cases, take it up with the authorities. Oh no you have no evidence, just a massive generalisation. Your culture war leader (or Anführer eines Kulturkampfes ), Lee Anderson asked Suella Braverman in the Commons, Does she agree that anybody fleeing persecution should claim asylum in the first safe country they come to ? Now why does Anderson say should and not "must" or "have to"? Even your leader knows that registering in the "first safe country" is a myth!
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This lie is repeated so often you GeeBeebies consider it truth. So come on, where in the Refugee Convention does it say that refugees must register in the first safe country ?
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