Comments by "robs2020" (@sbor2020) on "United States of EUROPE | Is the EU planning a global SUPERPOWER state?" video.
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@thetruth9210 OK, but the EU gave the UK a choice as to whether to remain or leave the ERASMUS programme, which the UK chose to leave. As for the Horizon programme, this was the decision of the EU due to the Northern Ireland Protocol Bill introduced by Truss in June 2022, which was not passed. The EU saw this as going against the UK-EU agreement resulting in the EU preventing the UK’s participation in the Horizon programme since it said in the UK-EU Trade Agreement that participation depends on conformity to the EU legal framework. Mike Galsworthy said in 2015 that were the UK to exit the EU, the government would need to restrict immigration from the EU, spelling a major problem for UK science. This is before we even consider the impact of Britain losing its ability to shape the EU science programme . Does relaying facts and hypothetical outcomes indicate “delusion”? How does this compare to the level of delusion on the part of Truss, and of Farage, Johnson, Rees-Mogg, and all those that sold the lie of economic prosperity, and the Brexit unicorn we were sold?
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@thetruth9210 Yes, the UK could have stayed in Horizon as a “third country”, but the EU has to agree to it: not being an EU member doesn’t automatically make you part of Horizon. That is the nature of being a “third country" . Switzerland is an associate member, but it is not a “third country”, as it is in the Single Market, Customs Union, and Schengen. I don’t see how Galsworthy saying this makes him “deluded”. As for car production: the UK produced 1.72 million cars in 2016, gradual increase from 1 million in 2009. From the peak of 1.72 million in 2016 it has gradually declined to 775 thousand in 2022 – the lowest since 1956! Employment has also declined. Honda in Swindon, Jaguar Land Rover moving production to Slovakia, Mike’s parroted line about car production has, contrary to your opinion, come to pass. Simply, your Brexit delusions do not fit reality.
As for the Brexitees, Truss had the zeal of a convert. As for Johnson, Mogg, and Farage: why the hell would anyone trust these people in 2016, let alone in 2019 or now? OK, you didn’t get the Brexit you think you voted for but this is the Brexit I voted against . As far as I’m concerned, Brexit is the legacy of the Tory government’s austerity measures, as well as a two-pronged attack on living standards and promoting profit accumulation of the capitalist class. Basically Brexit is part of the class struggle to deregulate, push down standards and squeeze wages and slash civil and workers’ rights.
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