Comments by "1IbramGaunt" (@1IbramGaunt) on "BBC News" channel.

  1. ​ @planto80  they can say what they want, you can say what you want and we can say what we want in return, it doesn't automatically make either side right or wrong regardless of how many other people who happen to agree with you that you bring in to back your claim
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  2. ​ @idk-ye7ur  we know they did, the fact Argentina teaches another version of the island's history doesn't somehow automatically make ours untrue
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  3. ​@paherne1 first dibs to TRY and take them, sure haha. If the British were there first the British were there first and we were. You don't see us trying to claim anything actually on the South American mainland do you, our Empire's gone just like those of Spain or Portugal, we've decolonised practically everywhere else we once ruled against the wishes of the locals. British Overseas Territories like the Falklands are only still ours because the people living there WANT them to be and because we have a long-standing historical claim to them
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  4.  @ysaviationtrains2313  we do and you do too, or did at least before this happened. Queen Elizabeth II is a figurehead ruler, the Head Of State, she doesn't have much part in the actual day-to-day governing of her Realm; the actual LEADERS of the UK and the Commonwealth countries are the various democratically elected Prime Ministers and the Parliaments they stand at the head of
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  5.  @empusafasciata8035  damn right
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  6.  @mayreacts8030  who's covering up anything? Nobody's denying the Slave Trade or Britain's part in it, no-one's trying to hide anything. The only thing about Britain's history in that regard that DOESN'T get talked about enough already, is our part in ENDING it. Frankly we get beaten over the head with the BAD side of our slave-trade history every chance our critics get, but when was the last time the efforts of the Abolitionists, or William Wilberforce or the West Africa Squadron got any praise in the mainstream media
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  7. What atrocious and rapacious European country? The one without which you'd still BE a slave d'you mean?
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  8. ​ @olojondro73  good luck with that haha
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  9. @1NemesisFM we already have been doing since 1966, the only reason we're suddenly taking interest again is because you did...
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  10. ​​​ @idk-ye7ur  "logically speaking" and "seeing the bigger picture" Argentina shouldn't be populated by people descended from Spaniards or Germans right now should it, but here we are
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  11. F*ck that
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  12.  @francoismendy8829  As for Argentine ships (especially military ones, for training or otherwise) visiting the islands, not without British permission they're not!
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  13.  @francoismendy8829  the French being first to discover the islands is yet another unproven disputed claim that hasn't been "established" at all, just because something's written down in a book doesn't automatically make it true you know
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  14. @jojodio9851  no, we did not acknowledge that, not in that treaty or any other bloody treaty, and you constantly repeating us as having done so doesn't actually make it true
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  15.  @chukwumaolisehemekaouwarre3236  what has that got to do with the original comment?
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  16. @jojodio9851  nope, they didn't because we already had an existing claim from the 18th century which we'd never officially given up, we left a plaque behind saying as much which both the Spanish and you guys clearly chose to ignore
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  17.  @wardog0327  oh and you have access to the complete records of every British Army infantry soldier past and present to back that statement up I suppose?
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  18.  @wardog0327  you'd be very wrong then
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  19.  @ArrowBast  couldn't agree more and well as for that poor wolf I'm just sorry our ancestors wiped it out, to protect their sheep, chickens and other livestock presumably; the Falklanders do now regret it being gone though as it's the only known truly "native" Falkland animal (stuff like Penguins and other birds don't count as they come and go to and from other places, that wolf may have come there from the sea but he lived and died a Falkland Wolf only once he got there). There's talk of trying to use cloning and such to perhaps bring one back someday if the DNA can be found
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  20.  @YaqobStanding  we built that empire through grit, determination, discipline and military might, not through slavery, slavery has been illegal in Britain for about a thousand years, and the trading OF slaves internationally has been for around 200 years too. Try Googling the 'West Africa Squadron' or 'William Wilberforce' sometime? The British Empire is the sole real reason there ISN'T an international slave-trade anymore, and our history in regards TO slavery is a source of nothing but PRIDE to those who don't buy the anti-British bullsh*t propaganda
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  21.  @TheSkeptic000  he's probably a Chinese bot actually, although given Hong Kong, the Opium Wars and the Boxer Rebellion, I guess China does actually still count as one of those colonised countries lol!
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  22.  @YaqobStanding  yeah that actually officially ended with us altogether after 1833, had been rare in British territories even before then for the last century or so leading up to THAT, and while British trafficking OF slaves was prolific for a time, the actual use of them on plantations owned by the people in question was always far more the thing of the Spanish, Americans, Brazilians, French and Portuguese than it has of us, especially after 1807, when slavery was outlawed everywhere within the British Empire. Maybe actually look this stuff up before throwing out stupid accusations next time, when you're talking to someone with actual knowledge of this stuff
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  23.  @YaqobStanding  oh and I'm not sure what the slaves in the former FRENCH colony of Haiti rebelling and killing their former masters has to do with BRITISH history in regards to slavery? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Haiti
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  24.  @YaqobStanding  the hardworking natives on BRITISH plantations after the 1833 abolition were EMPLOYED to be there, there's kinda a big difference
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  25.  @YaqobStanding  just read this (if you can, not sure whether Wikipedia's actually allowed in your country lol?) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Britain
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  26.  @YaqobStanding  or indeed watch this https://youtu.be/_NoWIZv96KU
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  27.  @ll1ee215  what?
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  28.  @jojodio9851  no, we did not! but I've given up trying to convince you frankly, we've clearly reached a total impass where both of us are too entrenched in our positions and at odds to shift on anything, just like our respective governments sadly
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  29.  @ArrowBast  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahgan_people
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  30.  @ArrowBast  they did and still do have canoes, including pretty big multi-person ones, and could have got there slowly, bit by bit while hugging the mainland coast right up until they saw the islands in the distance from the closest point, it's far from impossible; they are (or certainly were at the time) already island-dwellers and (short-ranging) sea-farers, and used to relatively cold climates, and supposedly a pre-European skull has been found there that's believed to be Yahgan, or so I've been told, and some stone arrowheads and the remains of a canoe too, on East Falkland specifically. They clearly didn't stay there long though, if it was them and they did go there, and it's easy to see why, the Falklands are not exactly the most hospitable of places in terms of weather or terrain at the best of times haha and have little in terms of natural resources (ones that'd be useful to them that is) that couldn't be gotten far easier and more plentifully on the mainland or other islands further North
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  31.  @MrBagpipes  it was a British colony AND a French one, then a British and Spanish one
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  32. The defences on the islands being stronger now than they were then isn't exactly a hard thing to achieve, think it was a single company of Royal Marines guarding them in 1982. Now? There's the better part of a thousand troops there, backed up by Royal Navy warships and nuclear submarines, surface-to-air missile systems and four RAF Typhoon jet fighters. And all that's just the existing permanent garrison
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  33. ​ @0816M3RC  couldn't agree more
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  34. ​ GODISABIGPILEOFSHIT  do you mean the Belgrano?
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  35.  @wisenG771  you are aware there's a massive conventional war going on in Europe right now and that the Russians keep threatening to escalate it right, including threatening Britain directly?
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  36.  @XXXTENTAClON227  weak and stupid government after weak and stupid government trying to save money by reducing a navy they didn't see as very important in the modern world, it's stupid and a crying shame but blame our government administrations as I say not the Royal Navy or Britain as a whole. Still, we do have two carriers now that're easily the biggest, most modern and most powerful (on paper) in Europe, they just have had various issues as detailed above that really need ironing out (trust me if they were ever needed for something like the Falklands again though I'm sure the whip would get cracked and they WOULD be ready in time)
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  37.  @Xgeneration28  actually it definitely seems like they would do just about anything to get those islands given how much they bang on about it, and how is he a "numnutt" for assuming you're Argentine in this comment thread exactly given Maradonna IS such a hero to them?
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  38.  @sandrider1406  nope, sorry, The FALKLANDS always will be British, they (mostly) always have been British and if you're planning on trying to take them away by force again, good luck with that
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  39.  @cesargabriel5716  fair enough. Tell you what, how about we just agree to disagree
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  40. Good luck with that lol, if the modern Britain gives up any more land we're gonna be doing it for our own reasons on our own terms, we're done kowtowing and backing down to the rest of the world when if it wasn't for us they'd either not exist or not be free to. And if the UN doesn't like that, too bad, suck it up, they talk and talk but couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag on their own
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  41.  @sandrider1406  good luck with that, the UN talk a good talk but couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag
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  42.  @andremartin9571  and yes, at the time they were all just called "colonies" regardless of the territory's actual legal status, so what, the 13 original American States were initially called "colonies" too
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  43.  @andremartin9571  those 150 formerly-armed men were taken prisoner as part of a military operation, they weren't exactly crying women and mewling babies, and they were actually paid to stay there IN The Falkland Islands and keep working, just under British authority rather than being taken away at all, according to what I'm reading
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  44.  @andremartin9571  regardless of the cause behind a decision it's still a decision, and yeah at one point we were friends and allies, you're the ones who chose to screw that up and get a lot of people killed over land that never belonged to you and never will, the sorry situation now is what it is and, no matter how you try to twist it that situation always comes back to being Argentina's fault
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  45.  @lturange  the f*ck are you even talking about at this point?!
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  46.  @andremartin9571  yes, that's exactly what I just told you about and as far as I'm concerned it just means Argentina had dropped the matter by then?!
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  47.  @thecondesce3904  like talking to a brick wall, sadly
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  48.  @mauromodica8293  so long as you lot behave yourselves you're already welcome to come visit any time you like, just leave your guns at home this time, mind your manners and shit in a toilet not on civilian's beds, or we may have to shoot you
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  49.  @mauromodica8293  the sinking was not illegal, controversial yes but not illegal, we did give warning well in advance both directly and through the UN that we could and would attack any Argentine military aircraft or warship we encountered that posed a threat to our forces (and Belgrano and her escorting destroyers definitely did pose a threat and were one arm of a pincer movement aimed at flanking our taskforce). She was liable to be attacked regardless of her position, the maritime exclusion zone wasn't actually a legal boundary to such actions just something to MOSTLY restrict where the fighting was happening and keep civilians and neutrals out
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  50.  @mauromodica8293  as for the bombs some exploded some didn't, some hit some missed, wup-dee-doo, even if they'd all exploded it still wouldn't have meant you'd won or even that the ships you hit were actually sunk, to completely defeat us you would've had to successfully hit and destroy at least 40 warships not four, and in particular our two aircraft carriers which your aircraft never even got NEAR with those bombs let alone sunk, despite your pilot's claims; AND even if you HAD somehow sunk more ships it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the land campaign
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