Comments by "Myles Platt" (@melsop54) on "Trans athletes in women's sports: Is this fair?" video.

I'd say there's a level of acceptable unfairness where any athlete in that league can reasonably beat another with enough practice and desire. However, when we are at a place where the best possible biological female in history is still miles behind a billological male who joined her sport and obliterated her record so bad that no biological woman can possibly reach it again...that's a whole different level of unfair. Might as well have grown men play on t-ball teams...
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@woolfie8766 Not at all. Purely hypothetical. No incorrect answer. If we brought men's and women's sports together, and biological men gravitated to the top of every sport (I say this for reasons such as the under 15 year old boys soccer team recently beating the US Women's Soccer team), what would happen then? Are we just going to accept that and tell biological women to deal with it?
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@rayzamarripajr.7571 💯 Reality of that though is that biological men will have that advantage over biological women 99.999% of the time. If sports combine, we as a society will have to accept watching women be dominated at all times in all sports.
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@woolfie8766 "Myles Platt i don't even know what your point is. I'm saying we should focus on performance and create divisions irregardless of gender at the highest levels of many sports. If a woman plays well enough at baseball to compete at the highest level, no reason she shouldn't be able to." Ok. So lets say we do this. Biological men and biological women compete together in all sports. My question is what will be the reaction if biological men gravitate to the top of every one of these sports, leaving biological women forced to all compete for say 3rd place at very best just by nature of their biological makeup? Is this the true measure of equality? I submit this idea because we know a group of 15 and under year old boys recently beat the US Women's Adult soccer team. There's no reason to think this pattern wouldn't carry across most every other sport, leaving biological women way behind most possibilities of even medaling simply by nature of being a woman. Will we accept this outcome as a society should it happen?
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@woolfie8766 The question is WHY they are super male dominated then. Why is that? Perhaps it's the built in drive that males have for contest, for a fight, for a physical challenge. Women do have that, but it is virtually an exception to the rule for females where as it's virtually the rule for males. As an evolutionary trait, males have a drive to hunt, kill, provide, etc...Since we are in a civilized society that no longer allows for human/human killing, males have that drive has been channeled in to other things...namely high contact competition (football, MMA, etc) These things are always male dominated because the drive to do these things is inherently a male thing. No amount of social engineering to include women in that will change it.
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@plasticflower Precisely my point. I appreciate your input. The guaranteed outcome of bringing biological men and biological women together in sport will be biological men surpassing virtually all biological women. It will be biological women being forced to compete for 4th or 5th place at best...and few people want to train like a 1st or 2nd place athlete knowing they can't possibly do better than 4th or 5th place no matter how hard they try.
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@woolfie8766 And what would happen if biological men happened to gravitate to the top of all those sports, holding all the records, and making the most money by bringing in the most viewers?
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When a dude In 72nd place on a men's swim team decides to transition and immediately becomes number 1 in the women's league AND places the record well out of any physical reach of biological women...it's not fair and we shouldn't pretend it is.
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@ms.greywolf8228 The rules are not a moral arbiter here. If the rules said no black folks allowed, would you be leaning on "The rules say it's OK, so it's ok!" I would hope not. No amount of hormone "therapy" erases the natural advantage of being a male competing against women. It just doesn't.
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I hear you, but what happens when winning (as far as breaking a record) is no longer even an option for you anymore because a biological male put the record well out of any physical reach? Is it really fair if a biological male joins a women's sport and immediately doubles or even triples the best possible outcome any biological female has ever had? Is it fair to simply tell the biological females "Tough luck. Try for second best cause that's all you can possibly get now."?
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