Comments by "Ronin Dave" (@RoninDave) on "'Noah' Hate Reveals The Disturbing Hypocrisy Of Religion" video.

  1. Dumping on moderate christians isn't going to magically make religion go away nor by doing so will you magically make greed, hate, selfishness go away. Ultimately the problem with fundamentalists is that they are assholes. Take away religion and they will still be assholes.
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  2. alex ichim in old Japan people killed themselves and family not because of religion but for honor
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  3. alex ichim no it had nothing to do with the afterlife but the here and now nor superstition.
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  4. alex ichim no i'm not suggesting that at all, presumptuous one. What I'm doing is drawing a parallel to the honor killings you mentioned. Family pride and honor has been present thru many societies of many different religions. Just blaming religion is the easy way out of a more complex issue. Getting rid of religion will not stop honor killings. Look beneath the surface.
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  5. alex ichim you originally blamed religion solely for this behavior. Now you have modified your stance so I guess I'll consider that a form of concession. Ultimately it comes down to people - we will use any rationalization to justify behavior that under other circumstances would be considered bad  - murder, theft, rape, lying, etc.. - be it religion, politics, nationalism, sexism, etc... It's the nature of the beast. 
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  6. Micic00 education is not going to change people from being selfish assholes
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  7. alex ichim Robespierre was very intelligent - look what he did
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  8. alex ichim point is we are all manipulatable by others and ourselves
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  9. Micic00 I'm wrong, am I? The fundies have a book and a Messiah which tells them to help the poor and yet despite that they vote to get rid of any assistance to the poor. They are told not to judge lest they be judge and yet they throw stones left, right, and center and often at the very kind of people Jesus broke bread with. They are told not to kill but they support war and the killing of people to defend their property. They are assholes even by the standards of their religion which goes back to my original point - removing religion won't make them any less of an asshole. They will still refuse to aid the poor, they will still judge people, and they will still support war and killing over property.
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  10. And then the revolutionary russian elite used Marx's philosophy to control the masses
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  11. And only with Christian fundies
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  12. Herman Langland are Jews an d Muslims complaining about Noah and its environmental message?
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  13. MutteringCondolences I'm referring to criticism of this film
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  14. MutteringCondolences but to environmentalism? This is the rub
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  15. Actually they're incorrect. Slave owners resisted having their slaves becoming Christians because the tricky issue of spiritual equality it would bring.
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  16. Iruparazzo but the point is they weren't forced en masse in some kind of organized indoctrination. The South was and is a mix of sects
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  17. Micic00 lol little wasn't in reference to size my oversensitive chum but that tells me all I need to know about you. You take things literally and you think you are deep with your big words but you're just a pseudo-intellectual. Look if you want to believe religion is this big bad thing that is making people bad who otherwise would be perfectly wonderful caring considerate people than have at it but don't expect me to buy in.
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