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Comments by "Ronin Dave" (@RoninDave) on "Man Brings Guns, Knives to 'Dark Knight Rises'" video.
he was talking about the mentality or rather the perceived mentality of the Wild Wild West not the geographically location. Though at the early time of the US, Ohio was The West
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except no one is really taking about banning guns. TYT aren't but gun nuts can't think clearly and only live in a black-n-white world of banning vs allowing
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it just irritates me that all these gun nuts quoting dead guys and spouting the 2nd Amendment don't see that no one is calling for an all-out ban on guns. These guys are insane
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what about the 2nd Amendment has anything to do with Teldara saying Cenk shouldn't make these videos? You gun nuts have no readinc comp skills, do you? At no time has Cenk called for banning guns or rounding them up from legal owners. Try to get that thru your thick paranoid skulls.
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the joy of having to need to carry a weapon for protection? That's not joy unless you're a masochist. That's bitter necessity which makes me wonder why all these patriotic gun advocates love a country where they fear the government and feel the need to be able to defend themselves at any given moment. Who could love a place like that much less say it's number #1?
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is there any sense in your babble?
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so blackmarket guns are cheaper and easier to obtain than legal guns? Usually black market means - 1) more expensive for the obvious reason & 2) a little more difficult to find than the local pawn shop. These factors slow the process and there is more of a chance of the person being caught. None of the mass shooters were criminal masterminds and more importantly did not have criminal connections. You don't just go to your local black market on the corner
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Which will stop lunatics 0% of the time - Assumption try to understand assumptions do not equal facts. And yes the Wild West was quite tame because they had stronger gun laws - oh, the irony! many towns made visitors check their guns when they came into town. When people say the Wild Wild West they are referring to what most people think the Wild WEst was as depicted in dime novels and later movies.
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well I don't agree with that. Hunters and sportsmen possessing firearms don't bother me provided those guns are registered and traceable and as soon as one goes missing a red flag goes up. I think anyone who wants a gun has to go thru a training course with certification and mental screening and give a valid reason for owning one. Self-defense if you are living in an ordinary suburb would not fly and be seen as paranoid hence a reason not to give out a gun
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now, now! You are obviously lying! As any gun advocate can easily tell you having never been to Australia themselves that Australian crime rates have shot thru the roof. Australia has descended into violent chaos and only our guns in America keep us safe and secure
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whether you are afraid of guns or not they will still kill
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I'm saying your fear does not make those places dangerous. You can't make an assumptions like that. It could be all those foriegners and foriegn words spooked you. I've travel thru Europe often and slept in train stations and never felt this fear
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gun nut nitwit, did you actually read what i wrote instead of focusing on one part? Point out where Cenk is calling for a banning of all guns. I've really had it with you morons and you inability to read or think
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considering none of the mass shooters ever got their guns illegally your point is moot
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but the main issue here is the mass shootings. The reason people want regulations is so deranged people can't easily obtain guns legally
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no we need different opinions, fascist, and what makes you think he hasn't before Aurora? Have you followed him for years? People like you make me rage. You want to silence opinion, you make assumptions that you can't prove, and you exaggerate things out of proportion. Cenk has never said he was for banning all guns and taking them from legal gun owners. You gun nuts just hear what you want to and make up the rest.
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lol! yes everyone would use deductive logic when suddenly their theater fills with smoke&tear gas. Even the those who have been around guns make mistakes in the heat of the moment. Wild Bill Hitchcock killed his friend in the middle of a gunfight because he acted out of instinct
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where we armed the gangs?
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no just that if you can assume so can I and what it does is nothing. The facts are most mass shooters obtained their guns legally and relatively easily because of this. That is fact not assumption. Try to understand the difference
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except they actually fit the bill as a well-regulated militia since the majority of them have had military training. Even so their weapons and ammo are still strictly regulated more so than the US
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Have you not been paying attention? Cenk has been repeatedly been talking better regulation but gun advocates lock their ears thinking he means banning all guns. Look at the comments and knock it off with the sir/ma'am crap
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well I have owned guns or rather my family has and we never shot anyone nor do we plan too. However we live in the country so our nearest neighbor is a mile away. Guns in suburbs and cities do bother me because I see little reason for them to be there except out of fear and fear can lead to accidental gun deaths which has killed more people than criminals
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Can someone please point out where Cenk has ever said he wanted to ban all guns and take them out of the hands of legal gun owners? Anyone? If you cannot find it, kindly STFU with your 2nd Amendment hand-wringing and quoting 200 year old Founding Fathers in your ridiculous crusade to fight for your guns that no one is coming for or wants to come for. You're paranoid. Clean out your ears and open your minds. Lay down the NRA pamphlet you are parroting and think for yourself
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i'm not Japanese you moron. People even Americans actually live overseas. You know those places you have never been and only know thru Fox News.
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an agenda so that lunatics can't easily get guns to kill a number of people? That's a bad agenda?
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you don't refute assumptions because they ARE assumptions. Don't you get that? Grow up and learn how to make an argument
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these guys are nuts. I asked for anyone to point out where Cenk called for the banning of all guns and no one has been able to do so. Instead they point out some trivial part of my comment and ignore the main point. These guys really don't have the ability to reason and put together coherent arguments
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not when they are wrong. If Cenk was calling of an outright ban then they would be justified. He is calling for sensible regulation as are many therefore the opinions of these gun advocates are misguided and misapplied and frankly a waste of time
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and free from fear ;)
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and where are those genocides you said "always" happen? Waffle, much?
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stop with the BS? Look around here and elsewhere with any hardcore gun advocates. One of their chief worries is that the government is going to kill them all. They are afraid of their government or rather the paranoid fantasy version of it they believe
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I'll take that over him and others like him being able to easily obtain guns legally
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why dont you try asking people who actually live there instead of relying on your tourist experience how they feel in their own cities?
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isn't it beautiful though? They want to imagine everyone standing up calmly then dispatching the gunman before going back to enjoy the movie
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so? Others would disagree with you. Who are you to tell them how to run their own show or tell Cenk what he can and cannot do? Fuck off, you fascist! It's called "enough is enough!" After all the lazy dishonest often innaccurate arguments of gun advocates after these numerous shootings that show no sign of stopping, many people would get upset and go on a crusade to stop the lies and madness. I hope he continues. If you don't like it, fuck off. Free country, you know?
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and you miss the point - small surprise
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They would have bought them illegally anyway? Um... assumption, anyone? Fine let me assume they could have also been arrested before their massacres for trying to purchase illegal guns or possessing them. See? Anyone can assume anything. I7d rather stick with the facts that most mass shooters easily obtained their guns LEGALLY and that's the problem. Stop being lazy
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I hate freedom? LOL! You didn't seriously write that did you? Did you read anything I wrote? I was talking about how gun nuts think Cenk wants to ban guns when he never has said that. The fact that you nor anyone else can point to where Cenk called for banning guns and taking them from legal gun owners proves that I'm right. You guys just can't accept that you're wrong and that you are making fools of yourself countering an argument that doesn't exist.
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which ones? enlighten us
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Governments always disarm the populance before committing genocide - like they did in Japan, Australia, and UK?
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3 separate men brought guns to a theater in TN and happened to be in the same movie at the same time. Theater staff saw only 1 and when asked by authorities who had a gun not 1 but 3 men had guns. They had permits but were asked to leave. WTF? Why would you go to a movie fearing the possibility of a shooting? Movies are for entertainment not obligations. What if someone has a seizure or has to suddenly run to the bathroom because they have bowel problems? I wouldn't trust those guys.
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yeah but the problem with that stopping crimes all the time, is that when asked about all we is here is about a few random instances which pale in comparison to all the deaths accidental and intentional. I think you should qualify that a bit more truthfully as in some of the times and really not many of the times comparatively
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yep it's freedom - free to be scared of your own government, scared of being shot by madmen, scared of being killed by a horde of horrible criminals, free to be so scared that you need to have a gun so that you can live free in this glorious country. God Bless America!
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his first shot? People thought it was a stunt at first. No one even with a gun would have thought right away they were in the midst of mass shooting. You are an embarrassment to Americans. Please, please don't talk or type anymore
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but with that kind of arsenal? I could see a handgun with a scope but a bag full of ammo and weapons?
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columbine - it was a straw purchase which is legal and illegally modifying a gun doesn't mean they acquired them illegally, you doofus! The Tec9 they used, the legal seller was busted for failing to keep records of the sale. That's hardly a case of getting the guns thru the blackmarket
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older than you by a decade but regardless old enough to know you can't make an argument using assumptions as facts. Try to understand that.
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don't recall saying I wanted to ban anything but I don't buy that lazy argument that the mass shooters would have gotten the guns illegally so lets do nothing. I bleive in stronger regulation and registration of firearms and gun owners.
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There is far more chance of getting caught purchasing something illegally than legally. Police stings? Informants? I'd take that over him and other mass shooters just being able to order their guns legally.
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yes I can criticize them because they are quoting the Founding Fathers and 2nd Amendment to counter an argument that doesn't exist. They are fighting to keep guns from being banned and most people including Cenk are not calling for a ban on all guns or rounding them up. That is why I criticize them because they are strawmanning
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Is that lame car argument the first thing they teach you at NRA indoctrination camp? I have that lame argument over hundred times. I hope you don't think you are clever or original using it
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so do nothing then and watch more gun massacres and school shootings because people are always going to kill each other? Stop being lazy
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try killing someone with a doobie
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really? Who? Holmes didn't. Columbine took their fathers' legally acquired guns. The Virginia Tech guy got his guns legally. Gifford's shooter guns were legal. So tell me which mass shooters half of them that is who got their guns illegally
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well I can imagine what upsets him which upsets many is that after each of these massacres little to nothing is done and the NRA and their supporters starting pulling out the same rhetoric . It's enough to make anyone frustrated
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