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Comments by "Skygrey2943" (@Skygrey2943) on "PM pressured over slavery reparations, as King nods to 'painful' past | ITV News" video.
@discipleaj So if compensation (reparations) can be paid to the descendents of slave owning families up to fairly recently, surely the same can be done for the descendents of slaves? Otherwise slave owning families not only profiteered once from stolen labour and resources over a few hundred years, they have profited twice which is a great insult to the free slaves who received nothing.
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We paid the price to slave owning families up until 2015. If descendents of slave owning families can still be in receipt of compensation in the last decade, reparations or rather compensation is not out of the question for people who are descendents of slaves.
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Yes, this is probably the best way of addressing the need for reparations.
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@StevenNagle-e7g Perhaps it would be better to ask those who profiteered from the slave trade to reimburse you instead of the government. That said, the amount you paid into the system that went on to pay for compensation for slavery would be a very insignificant amount. Foreign aid is not free money. It is given with strings attached such as diplomatic favours and opening up markets for exploitation. Some aid is only paid on condition that the recipient buys British goods, services and expertise. In other words, it makes the UK more than it pays out.
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@Mark-7359 See again, your reading comprehension fails you. I said it ultimately eased the process as my last point. My original post was regarding the double injustice of it from the point of view of enslaved people and the double standard of one set of reparations still being paid all the way up to 2015 while the other set of people are told to suck it up. Hopefully, this post clears up the confusion you are having, but I don't bank on it. Lastly, if any reparations are to be paid it should come from the people who profited from it such as the Royal Family or the Tory MP Richard Drax's family. Regular tax payers should not foot the bill.
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@captvimes You obviously didn't read the whole thread. I never say working class British people should have to pay and I've already acknowledged that those responsible were the ruling class as everyone else in the UK were working in places such as the poor houses. So I don't understand the point of your post.
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@Mark-7359 Yes, it should've been clear that I understood that from my first post. My point was the injustice and hypocrisy of it all, especially considering these payments only came to an end in 2015, but I guess that point escapes you. I thought the sense of 'fair play' and justice were British values. I guess, they missed you.
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@tonygange7636 Africa may have received much in foreign aid but it is still eclipsed by what was taken out of Africa in natural resources and forced labour over a couple hundred years. Also that aid is not given for free. It buys things such as diplomatic favours, access to raw materials or its given on condition they buy British goods, services and expertise. It can also come in the form of a loan. Lastly, African nations can get trapped in debt as their position in the global economic system is not advantageous. They're exploited for cheap labour and resources with little revenue making it back to governments to reinvest in the nation.
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@quillo2747 Yes I agree that it served that purpose. There should be talk amongst people in the Middle East as regards to their slave trade but the trans Atlantic slave trade was the biggest the world had seen and the wealth extracted was immense. Middle East nations didn't control as much territory or control the seas or weild any economic might like the British empire did. That's why it is talked about more. I dont understand why some British people get so defensive about it and go on to mention every other instance of slavery in history like it makes it better. It's highly unlikely that any working class British person profited from it and their descendents were more likely to be in poor houses in similar conditions.
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@Mark-7359 Yes of course I do. You don't seem to have a concept of fairness or justice. I thought they were British values that even the simplest people possessed.
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@Worldagenda24 Whataboutism! Also, descendents of the Atlantic slave trade haven't received any compensation.
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@graveperil2169 People of the time thought they were bad. There was quite a bit of public pressure from within the UK for the practice of slavery to end.
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@Aegmog If you read my posts, I said the taxpayer should not fund reparations. Rather, it should be the likes of the Royal Family or those in receipt of compensation for all those years.
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@discipleaj No, you're right. It is impossible to quantify, and I have no idea of what kind of system could be used to deliver reparations. That said, it's not like reparations haven't been organised before to be paid to countries that have suffered extreme historical injustices. Because of the near impossibility of calculating a sum and distributing it equitably to the population that suffered, land restitution could be a good way of acknowledging this historical wrong and providing something tangible to the nations that suffered. I'm no international lawyer, though, so this is all just hypothetical. Indeed, this here is all hypothetical and does nothing, but you just wrote a short book on the YT comment section because you can't even abide people talking or thinking about it in a way that is critical of the UK. It is undeniable that colonialisation and slavery severely disrupted life and the economies of the people of colonialised lands, forever putting them at the bottom of the global economic system.
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@Mark-7359 Your reading comprehension really sucks. Lol. Besides, there is an argument that slavery would've withered away on its own as there was a growing public disgust at the practice and slave revolts were spreading. Moreover, the over production of sugar from slavery destroyed the commoditie's value and by this time it was cheaper to pay wages than keep slaves. Still compensation eased the process despite it appearing as a double injustice to enslaved peoples.
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@graveperil2169 People were aware of the slave revolts and the conditions. British people put pressure on the government to end it, which is admirable.
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@afriendlycadian9857 Yes,slavery still exists in dark corners of our world, but that does not invalidate anyones argument for some sort of restitution for the trans Atlantic slave trade. By the way, it's 'moot' not 'mute'.
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@unionjackjackson4352 Multiple factors including the following: Compensation to those who enslaved other human beings, pressure from abolitionists, spreading slave revolts, over production of sugar making it near worthless, and lastly it was cheaper to pay a wage than to keep slaves.
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