Comments by "yop yop" (@yopyop3241) on "Global Economic Growth Is Collapsing (Here's Why) || Peter Zeihan" video.

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  3. National-debt-to-GDP figures look good for China, but that’s just a number on a spreadsheet. What matters is what that number represents. For most countries, it’s the national government that is mostly responsible for key services like education, healthcare, the retirement safety net, and infrastructure. That’s the stuff that matters, and so the national government’s ability to provide that stuff in light of its debt situation is what matters. In the US, that’s actually incorrect. In the US, state and local governments are responsible for a lot of that stuff. But we’re still OK just using the US’s national debt numbers and ignoring state and local government debt because the US’s state and local governments are highly constrained by law against carrying significant debt. So mathematical precision demands that we consider the US’s state and local government debts, but since those values are constrained to be nearly zero, we can get away with just using the US national debt figure. In China, the situation is totally different. In China, the provincial and local governments are responsible for almost all of the stuff that matters. In addition, to pay for that stuff, the provincial and local governments have tallied up huge amounts of debt. So to understand China’s situation with respect to the stuff that matters (education, healthcare, retirement, infrastructure, etc.), we can’t just focus on China’s national debt, because that’s not the number that matters. The 350% number that Peter gives is a reasonable estimate, but the reality is that no one really knows. The Chinese provincial and local governments have purposely used very opaque borrowing methods to disguise how much debt they have built up (and how much the government officials have pocketed themselves).
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