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Comments by "yop yop" (@yopyop3241) on "France’s Demographic Blindspot: Racial Inequality || Peter Zeihan" video.
It starts with inspiring them to want to integrate.
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@jenkz16 That’s not the same as wanting to integrate into their new country’s society. Not even close.
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@weisthor0815 In many cases, they have full citizenship. They can’t be kicked out. Immigrants also invariably make up a disproportionate fraction of military personnel, so using the regular military won’t be effective either. Your best “hope” is probably to overthrow democracy and go full fascist or something equivalent. If you are not prepared to stoop to that level, your only choices are integration or displacement.
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@jenkz16 Some of them would be dead now if they hadn’t relocated. Others of them are earning 3x, 5x, 20x as much money in your country as they could back in their birth country. And the disconnect may get even bigger with the following generations. The “foreigners” who were born in the new country and may even have citizenship in the new country have only a weak connection to the immigrant generation’s birth country. With little connection to the “old country” and without the inspiration to integrate with the new country, they do what people do and create their own community. That’s the immigrant ghetto enclaves that are probably anathema to you.
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@excalibro8365 They’re in, and unless you’re prepared to escalate to levels that violate your code of moral conduct, you’re probably not going to be able to convince them to leave. I think this is a case where halfway measures generate the worst outcomes. It’s like that quote from the movie, “The Karate Kid”: “Walk on left side of road, ok. Walk on right side of road, ok. Walk in middle of road, squish like grape.” My guess is that you either need to commit to keeping foreigners from ever gaining citizenship in your country, or you need to commit fully to integration. Further, full commitment to integration likely requires that integration be a two-way street with the foreigners adopting their new country’s culture and with the host country’s culture also changing to adopt aspects of the immigrants’ culture. The Japanese approach or the Canadian approach, pick one or the other. Attempting a middle path… “squish like grape.”
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@The_ScapeGoat Then you get the outcome you see in France. Foreigners inside the borders with full citizenship, but living in segregated ghettos. In the case of France, the outsiders likely have a higher fertility rate and will therefore probably displace the native French eventually. To my eye, that is an objectively worse long term outcome than Canada’s is likely to be. But you are correct, if the native French want to choose that crappy outcome, they have the power to do so.
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