Comments by "" (@TheHuxleyAgnostic) on "The 'Freedom Convoy' Is Melting Brains" video.
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@chris.kellly There's zero inconsistency in how herd immunity works. Every vaccinated person, between a high risk person, and a covid carrier, adds an additional line of protection, that the virus has to fight to get through.
Take the flu vaccine. It only has about a 50% efficacy rate, due to the multiple different strains, and it taking some guess work to determine which will be dominant strain this season.
So, at an individual level, the high risk vaccinated person is 50% protected, if they come in contact with a virus carrier. In a group, if you add another vaccinated person between them, and the high risk person is now 75% protected. Another, and they're 87.5% protected. Another, and they're 93.75% protected. That's the science of herd immunity.
Unvaccinated people, on the other hand, provide an unprotected path for a virus to more easily travel.
Not too hard to grasp.
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@anti-corporatecapture3844 You seem to be using numbers based on two different ways of calculating them. That 0.89% hospitalization for the unvaccinated (and 0.01% hospitalization rate for the vaccinated, an 89x lower rate), seems to be the rate, based on total population, given in a Gallup article. The comparable death rate would be the crude mortality rate, which is 0.088%, in Canada, and 0.27% in the US. But, you morons want Canada to be more like the US, and have people die at a much higher rate, instead of the other way around.
Your 0.02% death rate seems to be the infection fatality rate for underdeveloped countries, where life expectancy is as low as 55. For developed countries it's about 1%. That would be 370k Canadians, or 3.3m Americans, you're willing to sacrifice. That 1% is 4x the fatality rate for motor vehicle accidents, and far more widespread. And yet we still have licensing mandates, light and sign mandates, speed limit mandates, seatbelt mandates, no drinking and driving mandates, vehicle safety standard mandates, line mandates, etc. Should we ditch all those, for freedumb, because motor vehicle accidents are far less common and less deadly, than covid? I mean, if the covid death rate isn't worth worrying about, then why should a lower death rate, right?
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@anti-corporatecapture3844 Blah, blah, blah. You're lying. You're original stance was simply crying about mandates being against an individual's constitutional rights. You did not build an argument about the OSHA specifically. You're moving the goalpost to make yourself out to not be a raving lunatic.
So, your new argument is that it doesn't violate someone's individual constitutional rights, if they're receiving federal money? So, the government can mandate vaccines to farmers receiving aid, anyone on Medicaid or Medicare, any company receiving grants, anyone working for the government, schools, etc., etc., etc.?
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@anti-corporatecapture3844 To catch you up to date, Dore knob ...
Jimmy's doctor of nursing practice (not an actual MD), friend, from across the pond has been debunked already.
1. What's going on in one country can't just easily be applied to another. The US excess mortality rate was higher than its covid death count, not lower, like the UK. Something completely different is going on. It was stupid of the doctor of nursing to suggest this.
2. An excess mortality rate, that is higher or lower than the covid death count, doesn't automatically mean something is off with the covid death count. You have to count up all the pluses and minuses from all other things people died of. Only if all those other deaths don't match the difference, then there's something off with the covid count. If you straight up take it at face value, and claim the UK is overcounting, that would mean the US is undercounting.
3. The second number is the official number used for deaths due to covid by the government, and the media. No other.
4. The third number, if you read the paper, says "with covid". It does not say covid "contributed" to the death, as the dishonest doctor of nursing stated. That simply means there were some 20k people, on top of the second number, who died of other things, but had covid. Not the government, nor the media, use that number as the covid death count.
5. Not counting people listed as dying due to covid, simply because they had comorbidities, is disgusting. People with asthma tend to live about as long as anyone else. Not counting them as a human being, because they had a precondition, is disgusting. You and Dore are as bad as private for profit insurance companies. Someone with type I diabetes, doesn't count as a human being? You're writing them off as the walking dead, like complete loons.
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