Comments by "The SMR" (@SergyMilitaryRankings) on "Multiple Ukrainian Tank Columns ANNIHILATED" video.
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@Stephen-bq4nq
Truth About War and the US military by Sergy Serdyuk
Part 1 Myth of American military might
In the gulf war the US, British, Argentine, Italian, Canadian and French forces after months of preparations attacked iraq over 5 weeks of bombings and attacks with logistical support from 33 countries against a country that was already severely weakened by its 8 year war and crippling economic sanctions and remember this is Iraq most of its equipment was WWII to Vietnam war era stuff, let's go over what Iraq had
this myth that Iraq in 1990 was the 4th most powerful military is laughable, this was before the European Union was united as it is today so you're trying to tell me that Britain, France, Italy, Spain, West Germany, Turkey, South Korea, Pakistan, India, China, Vietnam, Brazil, you're trying to tell me that only ONE of them was stronger than Iraq lmao, as obviously the USSR and US are either first or second (whatever you're criteria is) so if Iraq is 4th then only one of the above can be 3rd lmao I think you and others are confusing most powerful with largest, it might have been the 4th largest but that doesn't equate most powerful, especially when you look at what most of Iraq's army was compromised of WWII to Korean war era tanks, IFVs, rocket systems, artillery batteries and fighters.
Iraq was literally crippled by the Iran war, between 100,000-500,000 Kia and over 400,000 wounded, losing thousands of tanks, IFVs, vehicles, artillery batteries and hundreds of fighters and helicopters, it crippled their economy as well costing over 8 years what is today over a half a trillion dollars.
Then there's this idea that Iraq was a fair or tough fight (equal to Ukraine lmao as if Iraq had anything close to what Ukraine had or even anything close to the military support Ukraine has received) is laughable,the country was blockaded and under heavy economic sanctions for years and it didn't have the infrastructure or labour like Iran did, US spent numerous months building it's fortifications and had help from British navy and armoured units and the ridiculous technological advantage and clear lack of air defence capabilities and useful fighters to fight coalition air superiority, it's hilarious how people think the gulf war was this lightning fast war when it was 6 months of preparations by US, British, Argentine, Italian, Canadian and French forces then over 5 weeks of bombings and attacks with logistical support from 33 countries against a country that was already severely weakened by its 8 year war and crippling economic sanctions, Iraq didn't even have CLOSE to the best soviet weaponry lmao
Then in 2003 after Iraq was crippled by gulf war, Second gulf war is even more laughable as Iraq was absolutely crippled with little to no air defence capabilities and military power, literally 8/10 of all Saddam's military forces surrendered and even still took over a month even though it was the US, UK, Australia and Poland
then there was Afghanistan a country that didn't even have a navy or air force and had more or less a militia with few vehicles, was attacked by US, UK Canada, Germany, Italy and New Zealand with Logistical help from 46 countries, or even the two wars that ended US lost and got beat, Vietnam US had help from Australia, New Zealand, Philippines, Thailand, South Korea and South Vietnam with logistical help from Cambodia and Laos and finally the Korean war were the UN comprised of USA, UK, Canada, Turkey, Australia, Philippines, New Zealand, Thailand, Ethiopia, Greece, France, Colombia, Belgium, South Africa, Netherlands and Luxembourg with logistical help from Sweden, India, Denmark, Norway, Italy, West Germany, Israel, Taiwan, Japan, Pakistan, Uruguay, El Salvador, Spain and Yugoslavia, even WWII the US never fought alone with majority of the fighting done in Europe by USSR and majority of fighting done in west Africa by Britain, even the Pacific campaign of WWII against Japanese the US had help from UK, China, Netherlands, British India and USSR and WWI was mostly won by Britain, France and Russia with USA joining in last year when Germany was losing and Austria Hungary was crippled.
You want to know the only Countries the US has beaten on its own or did vast majority of work and logistics in the age of modern Warfare?
Panama
Nicaragua
Dominican Republic
Haiti
Grenada
That's it, 5 countries, so I don't understand what accomplishments you speak of, so let's look at a few of the modern wars the US has been in
Vietnam war
USA total 2,709,918
USA peak 543,000
South Vietnam total 2,350,000
South Vietnam peak 1,500,000
South Korea total 320,000
Khmer Republic total 200,000
Laos total 72,000
Thailand Total 256,000
Australia total 50,190
Australia peak 8,300
New Zealand total 552
Philippines 2,061
USA total 2,709,918
Allies total 3,259,103
Korean War
Totals
USA 1,789,000
South Korea 1,300,000
UN Coalition 168,174
US total 1,789,000
Allies Total 1,468,174
Peaks
USA 326,863
South Korea 602,902+42601
UN Coalition 42,601
US Peak total 326,863
Allies Peak Total 645,503
Including coalition naval forces
Iraq War 6 weeks of war
USA total 192,000-466,985
Allies total 117,194
Including royal navy warships and carriers
Afghanistan War actual invasion
USA 5,500
Allies 15,000-20,000
Gulf War
Air Campaign
Offensive Fixed Wing and Rotor Craft
USA
F-15 96x
F-15SE 46x
F-16 168x
F-14 76x
F/A-18 132x
AV-8B Harrier II 81x
A-6E 20x
A-7E 86x
F-4 Phantom II 48x
A-10 120x
F-111 64x
F-117 37x
B-52 20x
AC-130 2x
AH-1 155x
AH-64 189x
ALLIES
Tornado 76x
Tornado GR1 48x
Jaguar 36x
A-4 20x
Buccaneer 12x
CF-18 18x
F-16 12x
F-15 69x
F-5 81x
AlphaJet 6x
Mirage 2000 22x
Mirage F1 27x
LynxAT 34x
SA-341 24x
USA total fixed wing combat Aircraft 996x
USA total attack helicopters 344x
Allies total fixed wing combat aircraft 427x
Allies total attack helicopters 58x
US Warships
Aircraft Carriers 7
Helicopter Carriers 21
Battleships 2
Cruisers 17
Destroyers 12
Frigates 12
Corvettes 5
Submarines 3
Allied Warships
Aircraft Carriers 1
Helicopter Carriers 1
Cruisers 1
Destroyers 18
Frigates 24
Corvettes 21
Submarine 1
(For Context against Ukraine which a superior military than Iraq Russia has no allies using any warships and is only using it's black sea fleet ,1 of 5, in Ukraine which only consists of 9 Frigates, 18 Corvettes and 7 Submarines)
Allied Military Personal
Argentina 500
Bangladesh 2,300
Bahrain 400
Belgium 400
Czechoslovakia 200
Denmark 100
Egypt 35,000
France 20,000
Honduras 150
Italy 1,950
Kuwait 9,900
Morocco 13,000
New Zealand 100
Niger 680
Norway 280
Oman 6,300
Pakistan 4,900
Philippines 200
Poland 310
Qatar 2,600
Romania 360
Saudi Arabia 80,000
Singapore 990
Sengal 500
Spain 500
Syria 14,500
Sweden 520
United Arab Emirates 4,300
United Kingdom 53,400
US Total 697,000
Allies Total 254,340
Let's compare it with Russia wars
Georgian War
Russia 79,000
Allies 4,000
1st Chechnyan War
Russia 273,800
2nd Chechnyan War
Russia 80,000
Russo-Ukranian War
Russia Total 900,000+
Allies total 44,000
Dagestan War
Russia 17,000
Notice the difference
The United States spends exactly $761,681,000,000 on its defence and the fact you think military budget is be all and end all is just the cherry on top of your ignorance pie I guess you think Nazi Germany and imperal Japan would easily win WWII as they spent most on their militaries, your hypocrisy is limitless you barge on about how Russia couldn't possibly beat US because it's taking its time with Ukraine a military on paper is much weaker but yet the US actually failed to defeat Vietnam a country much weaker than Ukraine and and failed to beat China at a time when the US and USSR were dominant military Superpowers, if that's not hypocrisy I don't know what is.
in conclusion my point is that the US military might is vastly overstated as they have a lot of help in every single major modern conflict they have fought in modern times except for haiti, Dominican Republic, Panama, Grenada and Nicaragua and my point is that the US would probably do just as well as Russia is in Ukraine on its own as Russia is a military superpower and has much of the same capabilities and stocks, (for what's being used in Ukraine anyway) especially when you look at the fact that the last time the US fought a proxy war or a tough opponent (with a lot of help aswell) they lost and couldn't win, these clowns who think the US would pull of a desert storm 2.0 are exactly that, clowns, I think I've said everything that needs to be said.
Ukraine is vastly vastly superior military than Iraq, Iraq had 890 fighter jets with over 50% being 2nd Gen J-6, Su-7 and MIG-21s and only having THIRTY SEVEN 4th gen fighters and they had 2,954 Air Defence Systems with over 70% of those being pre WWII to Korean war flak guns with only 554 missle systems pair this with Ukraine who has 3,547 air defence systems and 655 fighter jets, with over 50% being 4th gen fighters and 1,093 of those air defence systems being missle systems the rest being mostly self propelled Autocannons with some flak guns. Literally erally most of Iraqs tanks were 3,000-4,000 1st gen T-55s and T-54s wity around 600-1,000 2.5 gen T-72M whilst Ukraine had nearly 2,000 3rd gen T-72B, T-64B and T-80s and that's not including the 1,000+ in storage alonh with over 50 3.5 gen T-84, not too mention that most of Iraqs equipment was WWII to Vietnam war era stuff whilst much of Ukraine was more modern with BARSS-8, 2S22, 2S19, OTR-21, TOS-1, BM-27 and BM-30 self propelled artillery and MLRS batteries and this isn't including the $103 billion in military aid post 2022.
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@Stephen-bq4nq
Truth About War and the US military by Sergy Serdyuk
Part 2A Truth about Russia military progress in Ukraine
Since2014 Ukraine has been fortifying it's defensive positions along it's eastern borders with Russia and has been recieving NATO supplies and training in facing Russia military tactics since then, Russia mobilized around 100-150,000 troops in initial invasion, whilst Ukraine already had hundreds of thousands along border due to ongoing conflict with rebels, Ukraine then enacted marshall law and mobilized around 700,000 men, combine this with the fact that late 2015 Ukraine started recieving NATO training in russian tactics from USA and European Union.
Russia absolutely underestimated Ukraine, they were hoping for a quick victory, but when EU and US weapons, armoured units and ammunition started arriving, it wasn't go to be a quick victory, Russia second mistake was not mobilising men, Russia had a larger force but 150,000 isn't enough to use it to its full potential even now at 300,000-400,000 it's not enough as most T-72s, BTRs, BMP-1s are seen behind the defend lines sitting in columns protected by air defence batteries like the S-300 or Tor and Buk missle systems but the point is they waited too long to mobilize and Ukraine mobilized 700,000 men right away, their third and last major mistake so far was leaving the entire kharkiv oblast to DPR and LPR troops who were mostly just infantry with little armoured units, no match for Ukraine when they stormed in with their Leopard 2s, Bradleys and T-72s supported by Su-27s and MIG-29s but since January this year, Russia has mobilized it's reservists, created it's defensive positions and has ramped up armaments production at its tank, aircraft and Munition factories and is winning.
The recent failed counter offensive was devised by NATO and Ukrainian commanders, Ukraine had plenty of leopards, Bradleys, Challengers, BTRs, T-72s to punch through, they had plenty of air defence batteries and manpads to punch a hole in Russia's air superiority in the region with the Patriots, NASAMS, Iris-Ts and Crotacas along with Stingers and they had over two dozen Su-25s and MIG-29 to provide air support for their armour after punching the hole and they had plenty of artillery batteries to combat Russia artillery superiority in the region, they absolutely failed because NATO tactics just assume you defeat enemy air superiority and that's that because against countries with little air power and air defence capabilities and no production capabilities
Russia is literally fighting NATO, this is a proxy war, the US proxy war ith USSR in Vietnam lasted over a decade and in failure, so far Russia has taken around 20% of the country and has held it for over a year, the recent Ukrainian counter offensive has been a massive failure, Russia is winning in Ukraine and has been since January the stats clearly show this, Ukraine is a more of challenge than Iraq and Afghanistan combined and Russia isn't getting direct military help from 4-6 other countries aswell along with logistical support from dozens of countries, when you look at what Ukraine military capabilities were pre invasion and what Iraq 1990 was you'd comparing them is laughable, and I think it's so ironic that Americans have short memories, the larmst time America fought a proxy war they lost and the last time they fought an opponent they were vastly superior to in military equipment (China in 50s) they couldn't beat them, because people who actually fight for what they believe in fight hard and especially when they have the numbers, Ukraine has the numbers, Russia has the equipment, if Russia wanted to destroy Ukraine it could, just like if the US wanted to destroy Vietnam they could have but it would mean greatly ramping up war production and starting full war economy, Russia has hundreds of strategic bombers it could flatten Ukraine but it doesn't want to because it's fighting for my people, my people who the west pretend don't exist, right now Russia has had air superiority for nearly a year and is advancing on three different areas and has nearly encircled adviivka.
Let's look at the financials, since 2014 in military supplies and aid Ukraine received €17 billion from EU and $44 Billion from USA, now since January 2022 to July 2023 in military supplies €34 Billion from European Union, $46 Billion from USA, £4 Billion from UK and over $20 billion dollars from various others, in financial & Humanitarian aid Ukraine has received €77 Billion from European Union, $30 Billion from USA, £2 billion From UK and over $11 billion from various others.so in 2022-2023 that's around $103 Billion in military supplies and around $120 Billion in financial & Humanitarian aid, so between 2014-2022 Ukraine received $63 Billion and from 01/22-07/23 Ukraine received $223 billion on top of Ukraine $30 Billion defence budget taking total up to $253 billion with $133 billion in military supplies, Russias defence budget for 2022-2023 was only $84 Billion and for context $103 billion is around double what Vietnam received in 9 years from the USSR and PRC yet USA absolutely fumbled the bag there.
New pledged funding in military supplies for 2024 is to include $60 billion from USA, €30.7 Billion from European Union and it's states, $4 billion from Japan, £2 billion from UK, €500 million from NATO, $385 million from Canada and $74 million from Australia. In financial & Humanitarian aid, €52 Billion from EU, $1 billion from Japan and $390 million from South Korea. There's also the ~$9 million to $217 million every month in shells, grenades, mines, tank rounds, high calibre rounds and small arms ammunition, the European Union, United States and United Kingdom produce every month for Ukraine.
Military Aid to Ukraine
Tanks 1,079x
IFVs 1,670x
APCs 1,920x
Self Propelled Artillery 840x
Towed Artillery 854x
MLRS 185x
Armoured Vehicles 2,562x
Utility Vehicles 954x
Anti Air Missle Systems 165x
Air Defence Autocannons 763x
Engineering Vehicles 575x
Electronic Warfare systems 183x
Fighter Jets 37x
Helicopters 51x
Helicopter Gunships 41x
Drones 4,642x
Gun Boats 26x
Minesweepers 2x
Trucks 1,508x
Munition Shells 17,150,000x
precision-guided artillery rounds 270,000x
mortar rounds 800,000x
high caliber ammunition 29,800,000x
Mines 9,800,000x
Cruise Missiles 400x
pieces of explosives 147,000x
Unguided and Guided Rockets 2,000,000x
Small Arms Ammunition 540,000,000x
<80mm Mortars 500x
Grenades 1,700,000x
Assault Rifles 282,000x
Pistols 73,000x
Recoilless Rifles 80,000x
Sniper Rifles 17,600x
High Calibre machine guns 86,500x
Shotguns 12,000x
Grenade Launchers 11,000x
body armour/ Helmet 489,000x
MREs 1,342,000x
gas masks 26,000x
night vision equipment 56,000x
small scale Electronic warfare systems 400x
bomb defusal robots 300x
field hospitals 49x
tent camps 192x
Over 1,200,000 pieces of logistics including camps, tents, radios, generators, first aid, laser designators, radars, SATCOM systems, medical equipment, binoculars, thermal scopes, thermal monoculars, mine detectors, 3d printers.
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@Stephen-bq4nq
Truth About War and the US military by Sergy Serdyuk
Part 2B Truth about Russia military progress in Ukraine
Let's quickly compare Ukraines air defence capabilities to Iraq's in 1990 since American goofs love bringing it up (including in active service and storage)
Iraq
2nd Gen Fighters
J-6 45x 1959
MIG-21 235x 1959
Su-7 179x 1955
3rd Gen Fighters
Mirage F1 96x 1966
MIG-25 35x 1964
MIG-23 105x 1967
4th Gen Fighters
MIG-29 37x 1977
Attack Aircraft
Su-25 62x 1975
Su-24 30x 1967
Combat Trainers
L-39 67x 1968
Air Defence Missle Systems
S-75 160x 1953
S-125 140x 1957
Roland 90x 1968
Kub Missle Systems 140x 1962
Osa Missle Systems 24x 1967
Air Defence Autocannons
ZSU-23-4 200x 1957
ZSU-57-2 100x 1948
M53 110x 1959
KS-30 40x 1950
ZU-23-2 50x 1955
L/70 380x 1947
M1939 200x 1939
ZPU 700x 1949
KS-19 150x 1947
S-60 200x 1946
Oerlikon GDF 120x 1967
For context a modern air defence system in 1990 would have been Tunguska, ANW/TQ and Starstreak Short Range SAM, Buk and Tor medium Range SAM and the S-300, S-300V and Patriot long range SAM, Iraq had NONE of these systems and the only modern air defence Autocannons they had were the Oerlikon GDF
Ukraine
Combat Trainers
L-39 47x 1968
Attack Aircraft
Su-25 113x 1975
Su-24 14x 1967
(Western Supplies)
Su-25 4x 1975
3rd Gen Fighters
MIG-25 79x
4th Gen Fighters
MIG-29 293x 1977
Su-27 78x 1977
(Western Supplies)
MIG-29 27x 1977
Air Defence Missle Batteries
Osa Missle Systems 125x 1967
Tor Missle System 16x 1975
Buk Missle System 72x 1974
Kub Missle System 40x 1962
2K22 Tunguska 135x 1976
S-125 148x 1957
S-200 12x 1964
S-300 300x 1975
(Western Supplies)
Patriot system 8x 1976
NASAMS 13x 1993
IRIS-T SL 12x 2002
Crotales 4x 1969
Starstreak 6x 1986
Kub Missle Systems 121x 1962
Aspide 2000 4x 2001
Stormer 6x 1984
SAMP/T 2x 2001
MIM-23 4x 1959
AN/TWQ-1 20x 1984
S-125 100x 1957
Sky guard 1x 1990
S-300 1x 1975
SPADA 1x 2001
Air Defence Autocannons
ZSU-23-4 530x 1957
ZPU-23-2 883x 1955
S-60 400x 1946
(Western Supplies)
Gepard 67x 1969
Skyshield 2x 2012
Hibneryt 3x 2001
MR2-Viktor 115x 1959
ZU-23-2 61x 1955
M55 200x 1955
L/70 153x 1947
S-60 28x 1946
ZSU-23-4 12x
Iraq
Total Fixed Wing Combat Aircraft 890
Total Air Defence Systems 2,954
Ukraine
Total Fixed Wing Combat Aircraft 655
Total Air Defence Systems 3,547
Soviet Afghan War
USSR & Allies Losses 86,470-98,017
Mujhaideen & Allies Losses 162,579-192,579
USSR lost 14,533
Afghanistan war
US & allies losses 76,951
Taliban & allies losses 57,293
US coalition losses 7,496
Iraq War
US & allies losses 27,163
US & allies Wounded 117,961
US coalition losses 8,471
Saddam & insurgent losses 34,144-71,544
All losses of aircraft for USA and Russia in various campaigns
Coalition Aircraft Losses in Iraq and Afghanistan
Fixed Wing
F-14 1x
F-16 5x
S-3 1x
A-10 1x
F-15 Strike Eagle 1x
MC-130 1x
AV-8B Harrier II 1x
F/A-18 5x
V-22 1x
Rotor Craft
MH-53 2x
SH-60 1x
CH-46 6x
CH-47 7x
CH-46 2x
CH-53 5x
AH-64 34x
AH-6 2x
AH-1 8x
OH-58 33x
UH-1 2x
UH-60 28x
Coalition Aircraft Losses in gulf war Air Campaign lasting 4-5 weeks
Fixed Wing
F/A-18 2x
F-15 Strike Eagle 2x
F-16 4x
F-14 1x
F-4 3x
F-111 1x
OV-10 2x
A-6E 3x
AC-130 1x
A-10 6x
AV-8B Harrier II 5x
Tornado 7x
Mirage F1 8x
Rotor Craft
23 Helicopters
Russian Aircraft Losses in Russo-Ukranian War first 6 months gaining air superiority
Fighter Jets
Su-30M 7x
Su-34 14x
Su-35S 2x
Su-25 27x
Su-24 10x
Reconnaissance
Il-22PP 1x
Rotor Craft
Ka-52 33x
Mi-8 21x
Mi-28N 9x
And remember Iraq and Afghanistan were mostly insurgency wars and even at peak in gulf war Iraq's air defence capabilities were a fraction that of Ukraines and united states has SUBSTANTIAL help in all of these conflicts especially naval help, so against Ukraine Russia lost in a year what the USA and allies lost in a month and that's against a vastly superior military lmao
When you take into account how much massive help the US had, how much they committed to it themselves, the massive logistical help they had and the fact that out of Iraq's 890 combat aircraft 695 of them were outdated 2nd and 3rd gen fighters, these aircraft date back to the Korean war before fighters even had modern avionics and radar capabilities and Iraq only had 37 4th gen fighters and out of 2,154 air defence systems only 554 were air defence missle systems, all of which were outdated, pair this with Ukraine who only has 79 outdated fighters that were in storage and 371 4th gen fighters in active service and storage and out of its 3,677 air defence systems it has 1,292 air defence missle systems of which vast majority are considered modern systems even cutting edge stuff like IRIS-T SL, SPADA, SAMP/T and Skyshield.
Sources: Russian Ministry of Defense, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Ukraine Armed Forces, GlobalSecurityorg, International Institute for Strategic Studies, Council on Foreign Relations experts, Wikipedia, , statista, JMC, Defence News,, Defence Express, Janes, JSC, Real Clear Defence, CAAT, Forbes, Bloomberg, SIPRI, EURACTV, Military Factory
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@Stephen-bq4nq
Truth About War and the US military by Sergy Serdyuk
Part 4 US losses in Vietnam and Korea
What a load of Nonsense, US spent over a decade in Vietnam, millions of soldiers, most of their navy and air force and they and dropped more Munitions than all of WWII yet you think they weren't trying or were not committed lmfao
1. The US did try, when they first invaded they tried land operations with allies but difficult terrain and inexperience with jungle warfare along with NVA having better commanders in this type of warfare, from their war with France, proved massive issues. So they turned to a defensive campaign on ground and made their offensive an air campaign but this too was ineffective thanks to USSR air defence systems, bunkers and tunnels and the sheer will of the NVA fighting evil invaders, let's look at the actual numbers
US & Allies
USA Fatalities 58,281
USA Wounded 303,644
South Vietnam Wounded 1,117,000
South Vietnam Fatalities 313,000-545,000
South Vietnam Captured 1,000,000
Laos Fatalities 15,000
Khmer Fatalities 20,000
South Korea Fatalities 4,099
Australia Fatalities 521
Australia wounded 3,129
Thailand fatality 351
New Zealand Fatalities 61
Total wounded ~1,422,773
Total missing or captured ~1,000,000
Total Fatalities ~414,412-643,343
NVA
North Vietnam Fatalities 666,000-950,125
North Vietnam wounded 600,000
North Vietnam captured 232,000-300,000
China Fatalities 1,100
China wounded 4,200
USSR Fatalities 16
North Korea 14
Total Fatalities ~667,130-951,255
Total wounded ~605,300+
Total missing or captured ~232,000-300,000+
Vietnam and China in Korean war were two actually tough opponents because NVA was funded by USSR and China was forever warriors fighting what they viewed as evil, proxy wars are tough, just look at Ukraine, Russia is winning but it's a tough fight because of all the military aid they gave received, if russia wins in Ukraine it makes US loss in Vietnam and Korea look very bad, especially since they are the only two militaries that were decent, never mind the fact the US has tremendous help, honestly when people talk about how great US military is, I just think why do you think this, because their record certainly doesn't back that statement up, US is one of the 5 Military Superpowers and 3rd most powerful military on earth but that's it, not the invincible super military that people imply l
same non argument American use in Korea completely ignoring the fact in Korea, literally south Korea, USA, Britain, Australia, France, Netherlands, Belgium, turkey and many others fought against China and north Korea with the logistical support from many others
Here's the actual stats. Left is actual numbers recorded and right is highest estimates.
UN Coalition & South Korea
2,957,797~3,257,797
UN Coalition & South Korea
802,491-2,085,000
China & North Korea
1,742,000-3,042,000
China & North Korea
1,310,929-2,207,000
UN Coalition & South Korea
Fatalities
193,534-1,050,000
Wounded
565,703-886,000
Missing
32,081-100,000
Captured
11,173-49,000
China & North Korea
Fatalities
499,687-900,000
Wounded
569,849-789,000
Missing
116,827-303,000
Captured
124,566-215,000
united states couldn't even defeat Vietnam, Vietnam had when accounting for inflation it clock out at $53,525,238,402 - $61,556,312,076 in estimated military supplies over the period of war from 1964-1973 from china and USSR 🤣🤣 Ukraine has received just in military supplies, from 01/2022-07/2023 €34 billion from EU, $45 Billion from USA, £6 billion from UK and around $20 billion from various others, in a around a single year Ukraine has received over double the amount NVA received in ten times less time
US got absolutely wrecked by Vietnam
Assets used
5 million+ US and allied soldiers
1 trillion dollars spent over 9 years
More Munitions dropped than all of WWII
24 USN Aircraft Carriers
2 USN Battleships
19 USN Cruisers
145 USN Destroyers
7 USN Frigates
48 USN Corvettes
33 USN Mine Ships
26 USN Submarines
~12,000 USA helicopters
~5,000 USAF planes
~1,000 USAF UAVs
600+ USA Tanks
2,000+ USA APCs & IFVs
400+ USA artillery batteries
~2,000 ARVN aircraft
687+ ARVN tanks
1,107 ARVN APCs & IFVs
200+ ARVN Artillery guns
672 ARVN Amphibious Ships
450 ARVN Gun Boats
20 ARVN Mine Ships
242 ARVN Patrol boats
Lost
Lost the war
600k+ US and allies Fatalities
1.4m+ US and allies Wounded
5,607 US helicopters lost
3,744 US planes lost
578 US UAVs lost
12 ANCAZ Aircraft lost
60+ ARVN Ships lost
1,351 South Vietnam aircraft lost
500+ US tanks lost
200+ US APCs and IFVs lost
500+ ARVN APCs and IFVs lost
300+ ARVN tanks lost
1 USN aircraft Carrier sunk (salvaged)
US military record is awful for the amount of air and naval power they used in Vietnam not time mentin having around 1,200 tanks, 3,000 APCs & IFVs, 600+ artillery guns, 13,000 helicopters, 6,000 planes, 1,000 UAVs, over 200 major warships and over 20 aircraft Carriers and over 400 gun boats thet should have CRUSHED Vietnam, for context against Ukraine a superior opponent Russia only has it's black sea fleet which was 1 Cruiser 9 Frigates 18 corvettes and 7 Submarines and only around 800-1,400 aircraft 😭🤣 and it's only losy a fraction what the US and allies lost
American fanboys claim Russia doesn't have air superiority when Americans lost around on average 20-50 drones a year, 100-300 planes every year, 400-500 helicopters a year and allies who lost around 100 aircraft a year, US and allies lost on average nearly 100 tanks a year and nearly 50 APCs and IFVs a year this was again even though the war was mostly an air war. when Russia has only lost 92 planes and 138 helicopters and around 329 drones (although these see a lot more usage than back then)in nearly two years 🤣
When you consider the fact that this was at a time when the US, along with the USSR, was a great military superpower, whilst China had just finished it's civil war which started not long after WWII against Japanese, compared to US navy there's was pitiful and their land force was tiny in comparison aswell, Korea (like modern Ukraine and Many other wars) that sometimes technology, firepower, tank, artillery and air superiority isn't always enough to win against a foe who is determined and has the numbers, it was so bad for the US that it resulted in their longest military retreat in US history, it was so had that nuclear weapons were seriously considered because of how bad the situation war was going but it was thought it would just escalate things and cause full on war with China and because China had very little actual vehicles and sub par logistics and was really just an incredibly effective miltias as they were pretty much spent fighting the civil war
The Vietnam war is even more funny because US fanboys always cope with losing by saying "we lost far less" yet again if you count all forces that fought with US like south Vietnam then it's actually I think around equal or even worse but regardless even if it wasn't, it was a failure on all fronts, it's political objectives to stop spread of communism to south was a failure and it's military objectives to defeat the NVA was a failure, and the US tried it's hardest, literally millions of soldiers, numerous aircraft Carriers, dozens of warships, they tried to invade it at the start but gave up when little progress was being made and reverted to an air campaign, they dropped more Munitions than was dropped in all of WWII yet you think they weren't trying 🤣🤣 the US might have a better overall military and is 3rd most powerful and Russia is 4th out of the 5 military Superpowers but that doesn't mean the US would win, it's a 50/50 between all the 5 military Superpowers at full strength, it's obvious you're Clueless
I don't know why people can't admit this, as a Russian I can happily admit we got our ass handed to us in first Chechnyan war, no excuses, no buts, just was beat by the better force at the time and gave up and left, granted when Putin got in power and Chechnya extremists bombed Dagestan we crushed them but still the point remains, military super powers are not invincible especially when like in Korea and Ukraine when they are only operating at half strength (partial mobilization of reserves for Russia and extended conscription to new territories incase of conscription, Limited draft for USA and both only operating limited war economies and not throwing everything like both did in WWII)
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@Stephen-bq4nq @Stephen-bq4nq @Stephen-bq4nq @Stephen-bq4nq what a load of utter nonsense
I've already explained what Ukraine has in terms of equipment and air defence systems so you have no argument there
Old equipment?
M1A1 SA Abrams
Leopard 2A4/5/6
Challenger 2
MIM-104 Patriot
M109A5
M777
Strykers
M1117
CV-90
Bulldog
AIFV
KTO Rosomak
Boxer
NASAMS
Iris-Ts
Crotacas
Aspide
Stormer
SAMP/T
ARTHUR
Ground Master 200
Thales
VERA
AN/TPQ-36
AN/MPQ-64
AN/TPQ-37
COBRA
Krabs
Zuzana 2s
Caesars
Archer
AS-90
Pzh-2000
These are either top of the line NATO equipment or used in frontline equipment roles
Lmfao never allowed to fight in noth Vietnam what an utter load of nonsense, they literally turned to an air campaign they launched millions of sorties over Vietnam but USSR air defence systems ripped them to bits
I've already explained everything, US got beat fair and square
Wtf are you dense ? I've just given you what Iraq had, how did they have the latest russian equipment? In 1991 the latest russian equipment was stiff like T-80U, T-72BV, T-64BU, BMP-2MD, BMP-1S, Tor and Buk systems, S-300, 2S19, 2S3M, 2S7M, BM-27, BM-30, TOS-1, Mi-35P, Ka-50, Mi-28, MIG-29M, MIG-31B and Su-30
They had NONE of this stuff literally their army consisted of T-55 and T-54, their most advanced stuff was 2.5 gen T-72M which they only had 600-1000 , MIG-29 which they only had 37!! Lmfao
It's obvious you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, I've literally already explained the stats you're just coping.
Russia has a better post WWII military record than the USA and US military might is a myth and Russia is wrecking Ukraine
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Truth About War by Sergy Serdyuk
Part 3A
Information on Russo-Ukranian War and Russo-Ukrainian Rebellion 14-23
Correct as of 19/12/2023
Ongoing Situation
Only including battles and skirmish were fighting occurs so for example Russia capturing Sevastopol isn't counted as a major battle win for Russia (it was an operational victory) like Ukraine capturing Kherson isn't classes as a major win as Ukraine encountered no resistance and Russia retreated from Kherson voluntarily without fighting.
Population Centers
Metropolis 900,000+
Major city 400,000-899,999
City 100,000-399,999
Small City 10,000-99,999
Town 1,000-9,999
Major Battle is any battle that takes place in small cities and or with large scale warfare.
Minor Battle is any battle that takes place within villages and towns and is usually smaller scale or with medium scale warfare l.
Skirmishes are any battles taken place in very small villages (Pop 0-99) or operations with assault squads or attacks on mission critical Military infrastructure or small scale battles.
Casualties and Fatalities updated every month.
Battles updated daily.
Equipment losses updated every 10 days.
Inconclusive Battles
Battle of Marinka
Battle of Shyrokyne
Battle of Svitlodarsk
battle of Adveevka
Ongoing operations
Donetsk Offensive Russia
Zaporozhia Offensive Russia
Kharkov Offensive Russia
Kherson Offensive Ukraine
Ongoing Major Battles
Battle of Adveevka Russian Offensive
Battle of Novomykhalivka Russian Offensive
battle of Vuhledar Russian Offensive
Battle of Krynky Ukrainian Offensive
Ongoing Minor Battles
Battle of Stepove Russian Offensive
Battle of Coke Plant Russian Offensive
Battle of Bilohorivka Russian Offensive
Battle of Sinkyvka Russian Offensive
Battle of Klishchiivka Russian Offensive
Battle of Andrivka Russian Offensive
Battle of Rozdolivka Russian Offensive
Battle of Tonen'ke & Sjverne Russian Offensive
Battle of Novobakhmutivka Russian Offensive
Battle of Vestele Russian Offensive
Battle of Bohdanivka Russian Offensive
Battle of Herrohivka Russian Offensive
Battle of Hyrhorivka Russian Offensive
Battle of Robityne Russian Offensive
Battle of Kyslivka Russian Offensive
Battle of Pevromainske Russian Offensive
Battle of Nestermianka Ukrainian Offensive
Battle of Verbove Ukrainian Offensive
Battle of Huliaipole Ukranian Offensive
Likely upcoming Battles
Battle of Ivanivske Russian Offensive
Battle of Lastochykne Russian Offensive
Battle of Petropavlivka Russian Offensive
Battle of Kupyansk Russian Offensive
Battle of Konstantinivka Russian Offensive
Battle of Chasiv Yar Russian Offensive
Battle of Siversk Russian Offensive
Recap of russian invasion
Russian objectives at beginning were likely to capture Kiev and secure a fast victory but logistics and command issues combined with military aid and good fighting by Ukrainian forces this failed. Russia then retreated from Kiev and Sumy and re-deployed to the donbas were it launched its successful Donbas offensive, where I believe the goal was to secure the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kharkov, Kherson and Zaporozhia oblasts.
Russia was winning from it's defeat in its SMO however Ukraine launched 3 major counter attacks with the Kherson and Kharkov offensives being a success and the Zaporozhia Offensive failing, Reasons for these success can be attributed to poor logistics, leaving the Kharkov region solely defended by DPR and LPR troops who are mostly infantry with little artillery or armour support and the biggest issue being not mobilizing any men as Russia only deployed around 150,000 troops with 40,000 DPR & LPR troops when Ukraine had around ~300,000 Active Service and mobilized 700,000 men day one and offcourse Russia didn't gain air superiority until around October/November last year.
By the end of last year Ukraine was at best basically winning and at worst stalemate however this changed by march after Russia called up it's reservists, re organised the army and fixed it's logistics issues, I believe now Russia is looking to grind down ukranian soldiers then advance slowly, we seen this in Bakhmut were it was revealed Prigozin got in trouble by the RAF because they didn't want him to capture bakmhut
Current Military Situation
Russia still has air and Artillery superiority across majority of Ukraine and frontlines, each country is fighting various skirmishes, Ukraines Spring 2023 Counter Offensive has failed with capturing only ~400km2 out of the ~44,000km2 territorial goals of Zaporozhia and Crimea. Leading Russia to begin it's Kharkov and Donetsk Offensive operations with Russia capturing a net gain of over 600km2 this year and Ukraine losing around 300km2 despite gaining around 400km2 in its 2023 counter offensive.
Russia has offensives in 19 areas with 3 operational offensives. Ukraine has offensives in 4 areas with 1 operational offensives. Russia has captured the village of Khomove and city of Marinka and is advancing on numerous fronts, Adveevka is nearly 80% encircled with the south eastern part in russian control, Russia has also all but defeated the Ukrainian operations in Verbove, just waiting on confirmation. It's also attacking in Robityne.
Ukraine has largely moved towards defensive operations with minor offensive operations in Nestermianka, Krynky, Verbove and Huliaipole and is still holding strong in Stepove, Krynky and Sinkyvka.
Political Recap
Ukraine is facing a tough challenge, there is feud in its high command between it's top general and zelensky, with polls showing ukranian public support of zelensky and his government has fallen 20% since last year whilst the military still has a large support,
Russia is largely stable since the short lived Wagner insurrection, United Russia remains high in the polls and public opinion of Putin remains high, there has been some terrorist attacks against Russian civilians especially in Belgorod region but nothing major likely by Ukrainian backed "anti Putin" russians.
Economic Recap
Ukraines economy is largely finished with around 30-40% drop in economic output post war with a drop of 7.3% this quarter and inflation at 17.7% with its GDP nominal at $175 Billion and PPP $430 Billion at and its GDP nominal per capita at $5,200 and per capita PPP $14,300. It also has very large debts of around $200 billion to the IMF, European Union and United States along with its massively diminished labour force and it's defence budget is over 20% of GDP and over 90% of Tax revenue.
Russias economy is largely fine with net growth of around 8% post war with a growth of 2.2% this quarter and inflation at 5.4% with a GDP Nominal of $2 Trillion and GDP PPP of $5 Trillion with GDP PPP per capita at $34,837 and per capita nominal at $14,404. However due to sanctions from the United States and European Union it is now in sovereign default with the IMF, World Bank and western creditors and thus it's market cap has tanked and it's currency has been devalued around 10% and it's defence budget has increased to 4.4% of GDP and around 20% of tax revenue.
Assessment
Russia is winning and has been winning since it captured Soledar, Ukrainian morale is very low with estimated Fatalities from independent sources for the end of year estimated to hit a low of 110,000 to a high of just under half a million and expect 4-6 Villages and towns to fall within next month and adveevka to fall within 2-4 months and battles in Kupyansk, Izyum and Lyman to start within 6 months, however the United States and European Union and it's states have new $60 billion and €30 Billion military packages awaiting approval and a further €52 billion in financial aid from the European Union.
if these are approved this will certainly prolong the conflict and they could achieve a breakthrough in certain areas especially in north east where Russia is relatively weakest as Russia is running low of reserves of IFVs, APCs, SPAs, Howitzers and AA Autocannons as reports suggest they have began bringing out and re servicing BMP-1, BTR-60, ZSU-23-4, D30s and 2S1s from storage to bolster their depleted reserves aswell as the fact that it's thought that Russia has depleted around 60-80% of its artillery and missle stocks having to buy shells from china, iran and north Korea to re stock and there have been some growing upset in russian Infantry over waste of lives (high cost in adveevka)
However it's not known if these military packages will reach Ukraine as the failure of counter offensive with Ukraine receiving at that point already over $100 billion in military supplies, aid countries are becoming concerned that this is going to either be a waste of money or it's going to cost a lot more for victory
A lot more is putting it lightly, even with the new ~$100 billion in military supplies, Ukraines wins would be minimal at best maybe 20,000-40,000km2/110,000km2 if it performed as well as its Kharkov counter Offensive. Realistically it will take a MASSIVE commitment of equipment to completely defeat and drive out Russia from all of Ukraine, I will base these numbers on what Ukraine has had and what they've gained and how much Russia is using and historical proxy wars and cost of historical wars and cost equipment used.
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Truth About War by Sergy Serdyuk
Part 3B
Information on Russo-Ukranian War and Russo-Ukrainian Rebellion 14-23
Correct as of 17/12/2023
We'll base this on a single year of supplies.
• in vehicles 1,000-3,000 3rd gen tanks, 2,000-4,000 Infantry Fighting Vehicles & 1,000-3,000 Armoured personal carriers, 1,000-2,000 electronic warfare systems, 1,000-2,000 engineering vehicles, 2,000-4,000 towed artillery batteries, 1,000-3,000 Self propelled artillery batteries, 1,000-2,000 MLRS batteries and at least 1,000-2,000 long range air defence missle systems and 500-1,000 short range systems with at least 400 Autocannons.
• in aircraft 500-1,000 4th and 4+ Gen fighters with at least 100-200 4++ or 5th gen fighters, 200-400 attack aircraft and ay least 500 combat trainers. 300-600 attack helicopters, at least 1,000 helicopters and 100-500 special type aircraft.
•in equipment at least 20,000-40,000 MANPADS, 20,000-60,000 ATGMs and at least 500,000 RPGs
• the hundreds of ships, aircraft and vehicles involved in the logistics of such things
• based on number of vehicles from estimates of oil prices Ukraine probably needs 1.2 - 3.6 million barrles a day to sustain its invasion and we give them a year to fight we'll use this number
• Ukraine would also need to mobilize at least another 500,000 soldiers to tip the scales.
• Ukraine will have to produce at least 25,000 shells a month to overcome Russia artillery Superiority and capabilities in production.
Costs
$10,000,000,000-$30,000,000,000 in tanks
$4,000,000,000-$8,000,000,000 in IFVs
$800,000,000-$2,400,000,000 in APCs
$2,500,000,000-$5,000,000,000 in Electronic Warfare systems
$1,000,000,000-$2,000,000,000 in engineering vehicles Vehicles
$10,000,000,000-$20,000,000,000 in towed Artillery batteries
$14,000,000,000-$42,000,000,000 in self propelled artillery batteries
$6,000,000,000-$12,000,000,000 in MLRS batteries
$1,000,000,000,000-$2,000,000,000,000 in long range air defence missle batteries
$4,500,000,000-$9,000,000,000 in short range missle batteries
$720,000,000 in Autocannons
$31,000,000,000-$62,000,000,000 in 4th gen fighters
$11,500,000,000-$23,000,000,000 in 4++ or 5th gen fighters
$3,800,000,000-$7,600,000,000 in attack aircraft
$150,000,000 in combat trainers
$15,600,000,000-$31,200,000,000 in attack helicopters
$10,000,000,000 in helicopters
$4,000,000,000-$20,000,000,000 in special type aircraft
$2,380,000,000-$4,760,000,000 in manpads
$3,560,000,000-$10,680,000,000 in ATGMs
$10,000,000,000 in RPGs
Equipment costs
$1,145,510,000,000 - $2,310,510,000,000
Logistical Costs
$13,000,0000,000 - $37,000,000,000
In fuel costs
$2,606,400,000 - $7,819,200,000
Soldiers training costs
$208,000,000
Munition costs
$8,200,000,000 - $44,080,000,000
Ammunition costs
$12,000,000 - $30,000,000
Total costs
$1,170,644,400,000 - $2,399,137,200,000
Somehow I don't think the United States or European Union will be willing to pay this much in one year and I don't think they would be willing to seriously weaken themselves by handing over so much military equipment to Ukraine remember I'm not even including naval assets, drones, utility Vehicles, armoured Vehicles, food, housing or the massive maintenance costs but realistically this is what it would take to completely defeat Russia and drive them out of Ukraine and Crimea for good (as long as Russia doesn't commit to total war and mass mobilization with war economy if that happened then only the full force of either the United States or European Union could defeat them) the pentagon said this in the leaks, so I think Brussels and Washington knows that this isn't a war Ukraine is going to win but rather try to pressure Russia into accepting terms that are somehow beneficial to Ukraine and the west. so my final assessment is I think this war will end with a Russian victory and Ukraine and Russia making a peace deal likely 2024-2025.
Stats
RUSSIAN FEDERATION & DPR/LPR
Statistics
Operational Victories 4
Major Battles Won: 32
Minor Battles Won 32
Skirmishes Won 93
Metropolis held 1
Major Cities held 2
Cities Held 10
Small Cities Held 33
Towns Held 26
Territory Held 110,031km2
Population Held ~4,604,062
Fatalities ~32,926-100,000
Wounded ~150,000-330,000
Confirmed Visual losses
Fighter Jets 88x
Bomber 1x
Supersonic Bombers 2x
Recon Aircraft 2x
Transports 6x
Helicopters 43x
Attack Helicopters 88x
Tanks 3,918x
Infantry Fighting Vehicles 1,222x
Armoured Personal Carriers 6,408x
Self Propelled Artillery 910x
Towed Artillery 834x
Rocket Artillery 316x
Air Defence Missle Systems 188x
Air Defence Autocannons 47x
Vehicle losses 3,564x
Engineering Vehicle losses 675x
Electronic Warfare system losses 392x
Drones 389x
Cruiser 1x
Corvette 1x
Submarine 1x
Patrol Boat 7x
Landing Craft 6x
Landing Ship 1x
Operational Victories
Annexation of Crimea
Donbas Offensive
Ukraines 2023 Counter Offensive
Ukraines 2022 Zaporozhia Counter Offensive
Major Battle Victories
Battle of Izyum
battle of Konotop
battle of Kherson
Battle of Horlivka
Battle of Chernobyl
Battle of Mariupol
Battle of Volnovakha
Battle of Enerhodar
battle of Trostianets
Battle of Berdiansk
Battle of Shakhtarsk
Battle of Slavutych
Battle of Hlukhiv
battle of Kreminna
Battle of Ivankiv
Battle of Ilovaisk
Battle of Donetsk
battle of Sviatohirsk
battle of Rubizhne
Battle of Novoazovsk
Battle of Stakhanov
Battle of Tokmak
Battle of Debaltseve
Battle of Antonov
Battle of Kupyansk
battle of Balakliia
battle of Lysychansk
battle of Sievierodonetsk
Battle of Melitopol
Battle of Soledar
battle of Bakhmut
Battle of Marinka
Minor Battle Victories
Battle of Serhiivka
Battle of Staromaiorske
Battle of Novoselivske
Battle of Robityne
Battle of Opytne
Battle of Izvaryne
Battle of Donuzlav Bay
Battle of Luhansk Border Base
battle of Davydiv Brid
Battle of Donetsk Airport
battle of Pisky
Battle of Tavilzhanka
battle of Toshkivka
Battle of Novoluhanske
Battle of Staromlynivka
battle of Popasna
Battle of Dubovo Vasylivka
Battle of Pavlivka
Battle of Pokrovske
Battle of Bucha
Battle of Klishchiivka
Battle of Novohryhorivka
Battle of Paraskovivka
Battle of Berkhivka
Battle of Stroivka
Battle of Krasna Hora
Battle of Urozhaine
Battle of Kurdiumivka
Battle of Pyatykhatky
Battle of Novoselivska
Battle of Krasnohorivka
Battle of Khromove
UKRAINE
Statistics
Operational Victories 3
Major Battles Won: 24
Minor Battles Won 16
Skirmishes Won 98
Metropolis held 4
Major Cities held 4
Cities Held 20
Small Cities Held 122
Towns Held 119
Territory Held 493,587km2
Population Held ~28,515,038
Fatalities ~100,000-400,000
Wounded ~400,000-700,000
Confirmed Visual losses
Fixed Wing Combat Aircraft 179x
Helicopters 76x
Attack Helicopters 22x
Tanks 1,202x
Infantry Fighting Vehicles 1,128x
Armoured Personal Carriers 382x
Self Propelled Artillery 454x
Towed Artillery 273x
Rocket Artillery 106x
Air Defence Missle Systems 371x
Air Defence Autocannons 215x
Vehicle losses 1,663x
Engineering Vehicle losses 336x
Electronic Warfare system losses 108x
Drones 269x
Frigate losses 1x
Gun Boat losses 5x
Patrol Boats 16x
Operational Victories
Russias Special Military Operation
Kharkov Counter Offensive
Kherson Counter Offensive
Major Battle Victories
Battle of Hostomel
battle of Okhtyrka
Battle of Kharkov
Battle of Kherson
Battle of Kiev
battle of Balakliia
Battle of Lyman
Battle of Kramatorsk
Battle of Sloviansk
battle of Irpin
Battle of Brovary
Battle of Mykolaiv
battle of Vasylkiv
Battle of Trostianets
Battle of Lebedyn
battle of Voznesensk
battle of Siversk
battle of Sviatohirsk
battle of Krasnyi Lyman
Battle of Izyum
Battle of Kupyansk
battle of Sumy
battle of Siverskyi Donets
Battle of Chernihiv
Minor Battle Victories
Battle of Andriivka
Battle of Robotyne
Battle of Urozhaine
Battle of Stramomayorske
Battle of Opytne
Battle of Vulhedar
Battle of Topoli
Battle of Bile
Battle of Donetsk Airport
battle of Romny
battle of Makariv
battle of Orikhiv
Battle of Karlivka
Battle of Stroivka
Battle of Maiak
Battle of Olenivka
Sources: Russian Ministry of Defense, Mediazona, Bloomberg, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Oryx, Wikipedia, Defence Politics Asia, Telegram, History Legends, United24, Weeb Union, TASS, International Institute for Strategic Studies, War Spotting, Armed Forces of Ukraine
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Russia Vs United States Military Record
Part 1
1. US military It's nothing to do with US hegemony, it's to do with the fact that unless it's a unbelievably pathetically easy enemy like Panama, Grenada, Nicaragua, Haiti etc. they will always get help even countries as a ridiculously easy as Iraq they had to get help and in Afghanistan when USA and allies lost more people in the war than Taliban and their allies did with US & allies losses at 76,951 and Taliban & allies losses 57,293 lmao and Countries only join the USA in their imperalist wars are the ones morally bankrupt enough to help because they get a cut of the pie like UK with USA in Iraq or USA getting NATO to help France get rid of Gaddafi for threatening their currency in the region turning lybia into a hell hole where as equal opponents as Iraq and Afghanistan, Georgia, Dagestan and Chechnya Russia did all the logistics on their own and all the military work in Dagestan and Chechnya and 90% of the military work in Georgia and crushed it within 5 days, it's exactly as Putin says, if Ukraine wasn't receiving weapons then they would have either A. Not had enough weapons and ammunition to fight their rebellion or B. They would have crumbled within a few months due to lack of ammunition, weapons and training and the embarrassing thing for USA is that it's doing better against Ukraine who is better funded than NVA was and only lost a fraction of the aircraft the US lost lmao in a lot less time
2. Russia won in Dagestan, Chechenya, Georgia and is winning in Ukraine, the Soviet war in Afghanistan was a military success, it's akin to USA war in Afghanistan, where they defeated conquered the country but failed to defeat the enemy.
3. A good bit propoganda is the T-55 MBT myth, people who watch this just screams they're just a average mainstream media/United24 watcher, the T-55s were brought out to use up as artillery as Russia has thousands in storage, I challenge you to find me a single video of Russia using a T-55 as an MBT, you won't because it's nonsense, it's nonsense because even when you look at Oryx losses of Russian MBT (which is funded by dutch government and legitimacy has been questioned) they say Russia has only lost around 2,501 (I have it at nearly 3,000) in Ukraine, Russia had around ~800 2nd Geb T-62, ~6,000 3rd gen T-72B+, T-80, T-64B+ and T-90 in active service with a few hundred 3.5 Gen T-80BVM and T-90M and a few dozen 4th gen T-14 tanks, they also had over 7,000 3rd gen T-72B, T-64B and T-80s in reserve and thousands upon thousands of T-64, T-72, T-55 and T-62 in storage from the collapse of the Soviet Union, yet you unironically think they have to use a T-55 as a MBT when even by biased estimates they've only lost less than half of their pre invasion active service (which according to my research they now have over 12,000 tanks in active service in Russia and Ukraine and only around 5,000 left in reserve), so yeah what's more likely that Russia decided to use up some old equipment as artillery or fire support or maybe to test it's combat effectiveness against modern systems (as again only ONE T-55A was ever seen) or russia has magically lost over 14,000 tanks and needs to use old 1st gen ones despite having vast air and Artillery superiority
4. My argument proves that united states military is vastly overrated, it's two wars (post WWII) were it faced tough opponents (with SUBSTANTIAL help aswell) they lost and got beat by china (China's goal was to liberate north Korea but they hammered the US so bad they kept going) what other fights has the US fought ? They fought in WWII, they fought well in the Pacific campaign but again they had a lot of help by Netherlands, Britain, British India and China. In north African campaign it was UK that did Majority of fighting and in European campaign the USSR did the vast majority of the work so much so that the USA, UK and other allies didn't fight a single seasoned soldier on western front as every single one was either on the eastern front or died in north Africa or eastern front, so what else, Iraq? This gets brought up all the time as if it's some great achievement, it's actually embarrassing it took them over a month to gain air superiority against a country who's majority air Force was made up of 2nd gen fighters that didn't even have modern avionics and who's air defence systems were mostly Autocannons
5. Standard cope for Vietnam is US held back in Vietnam lmfao, millions of soldiers, most of their air force, half their navy and over a trillion dollars adjusted for inflation lmfao, that's some premium cope, South Vietnam was under the control of The US backed dictatorship and the irony that they dropped more Munitions in the Vietnam war than all of WWII, also the USA tried land operations with south Vietnam dictatorship in mid 60s but poor success due to unfamiliarity with terrain and getting beat by better NVA commanders and overall poor results they turned to an air campaign but thanks to bunkers and great soviet air defence systems which resulted in USA losing close to 10,000 aircraft in 9 years, that's an average of over 1,000 aircraft a year or to put in perspective thats around 10x the aircraft Russia has lost 😭 and what's even more laughable when you account for the aid Vietnam had when accounting for inflation it clock out at $53,525,238,402-$61,556,312,076 in estimated military supplies over the period of war from 1964-1973 from china and USSR 🤣🤣 Ukraine has received just in military supplies, from 01/2022-07/2023 ~€34 billion from EU, ~$45 Billion from USA, ~£6 billion from UK and around $20 billion from various others, in a around a single year Ukraine has received over double the amount NVA received in ten times less time and yet Russia has only lost around under 200 aircraft in the whole 20 month war lmfao yet American fanboys claim Russia doesn't have air superiority because they lost around 150 in a year yet the USA was losing around 1,000 every year in Vietnam lmfao and remember can't claim I'm biased as this is from WESTERN SOURCES oryx 😭.
6. So why does the United States military have this Uber image, I'll tell you why, because of propoganda, lack of research, fanboyism, just pure good old fashioned copium and much like you just sheer ignorance
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,*Russia Vs United States Military Record*
Part 2
7. Russia isn't even using close to its full strength, at my estimates and, Russia has around 30-60% of total Russian military assets are in Ukraine, it's so blatantly obvious you get your information from the western media, Russia literally only has it's black sea fleet in Ukraine which is 1 of its 5 fleets it has in strike group's around the world which only consisted of 1 Cruiser, 9 Frigates, 18 Corvettes and 7 Submarines whilst in Iraq (a far far far inferior military) USA and allies had 8 aircraft Carriers, 22 Helicopter Carriers, 2 battleships, 18 Cruisers, 30 Destroyers, 36 Frigates, 26 Corvettes and 4 submarine yet it still took them around a month to gain air superiority Not only that but Iraq had 890 fighter jets with over 50% being 2nd Gen J-6, Su-7 and MIG-21s and only having THIRTY SEVEN 4th gen fighters and they had 2,954 Air Defence Systems with over 70% of those being pre WWII to Korean war flak guns 🤣 against the coalitions 1,423 with over 60% 4+ gen aircraft and over 30 stealth fighters yet still took a month to gain air superiority and lost 43 aircraft lmao, that's only half of what Russia lost in a year 😂
8. Another argument American fanboys use, "we Outclassed Germany" You mean the severely weakened Germany in 1944 who most fighters simply surrendered, and before you use the lend lease cope
Lend lease delivered
Year. Ton. Per.
1941 360,778 2. 1%
1942 2,453,097 14%
1943 4,794,545 27.4%
1944 6,217,622 35.5%
1945 3,673,819 21%
USSR made
Heavy Tanks 80%
Fighters and bombers 70%
Small arms and ammunition 70%
Trucks 66%
Railway 15-30%
Agriculture 40-50%
Total USSR production by lend lease 18-31%
Direct quote from stats
Lend-Lease contributed to the Allied victory. Even after the United States forces in Europe and the Pacific began to attain full strength during 1943–1944, Lend-Lease continued. Most remaining Allies were LARGELY SELF-SUFFICIENT in frontline equipment (such as tanks and fighter aircraft) by this time but Lend-Lease provided a useful supplement in this category and Lend-Lease logistical supplies (including motor vehicles and railroad equipment) were of enormous assistance.
The USSR stopped German advance in in 41, and in late 41 to early 42 USSR began recapturing territory and this was when the amount of lend lease supplies given was just at 1% then in 42 it rose to 14%, so by the time the majority of the supplies were arriving the USSR already had Germany on the Backfoot, as for allied bombing and air campaigns, there was and I quote turning point in the bomber offensive was reached in March 1943 with major effectiveness resulting in reduced oil and armaments production reached in spring 44 as the USSR was pushing Germany back for 1-2 years at that point, so by the time British and American bombings had any real effect (seriously effecting manufacturing and logistics) in January 43, the USSR had began pushing Germany all the way back to Berlin, the beginning of the end of Nazi Germany in Europe after victory at Stalingrad in Feb 43 and this was a whole year before British and American bombings began to actually cripple German war production
Literally 70-90% of total German fighters, bombers, tanks, half tracks, horses, trucks, light vehicles, field guns, heavy artillery, flak guns, surrenders, wounded and Fatalities were on eastern front, more tanks were lost in some battles of eastern front than the whole north Africa campaign or western front
So the fact anyone brings up Germany as if it's a boast is ridiculous
9. Another cope, is that Russia Vs Ukraine is a Stalemate? 🤣 Russia has won more major and minor battles than Ukraine, controls nearly a quarter of the country, has air superiority, Ukraines counter offensive has failed with its goal territory being around 44,000km2 it only managed to capture less than 400 and their last major battle they won was last year and their last minor battle victory was months ago whilst Russia last major was their victory in Bakhmut and Soledar in January and march and last minor victory was in Krasnohorivka a few weeks ago and are preparing to assault Stepove anf and coke plant, Russia has captured nearly a 1,000 this year and is launching numerous offensives across the frontlines whilst Ukraine has been reduced to sending actual pregnant women to frontline, around start of November adviivka was 30% encircled now it's close to 80%, this is nothing like a stalemate, this is a clear case of one for side winning and the other losing
10. Another hilarious cope is "Russia is using old tanks" rubbish The T-72B and T-64B are 2.5 gen and 2nd gen upgraded to the 3rd gen with both having armoured upgrades with Rolled homogeneous armour with composite armour and ERA and T-64B has a 1V517 ballistic calculator, a 1G21 sight with laser telemetry and a 1B11 cross-wind sensor, whilst the T-72B has 9K120 Svir guided missile system, upgraded hull composite armour consisting of high-hardness steel plates and improved composites in the turret armour and the T-80 and T-90 are production 3rd gen and the Irony being the M1 Abrahams was designed in 70s and put in production in the 80 and even more irony consedering an old 2.5 gen T-72M destroyed an M1 Abrahams in gulf war, directly from Exact words of documents about bravo 23 from US Center of Military History
The battle had suddenly turned grim. A T-72 had hit bravo 23 in the rear exhaust exists. Bravo 23 took another hit from it's ambusher in the back of its turret the Iraqi Sabot blew through the armour and into the compartmented ammo storage area and set off an enormous explosion. The blast escaped through the blow out panels in the top turret, venting the explosion away from the Crew compartment, the halom suppression system kept fire out long enough for surviving crew to escape to safety before more ammo started to cook off and bravo 23 starting burning in earnest
11. In conclusion, the United States has a worse military record than Russia/USSR and the difference between Russia and the United States is that Russia doesn't need substantial help from others in both logistics and military matters and has actually won wars on its own
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@Stephen-bq4nq
1. I've already explained Iraq, Vietnam and Korea and given plenty of evidence your opinion is irrelevant, the point was Iraq's air force and air defence capabilities were a joke, far far far far vastly inferior to Ukraine, similar to Georgias, who Russia beat within LESS THAN a week.
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A. Ukraine does have a navy they had 1 Frigate that was scuttled during start of invasion and they had numerous patrol craft and mine ships but it's irrelevant because the Moskva was destroyed by an anti ship cruise missile, not sure if you know what how missles work but they are these rockets with explosives that can travel really far
B. Lmfao how was the black sea fleet defeated you utter r*tard ? It was literally just the Moskva, you realise the black sea fleet is made up of 1 Cruiser, 9 Frigates, 20 corvettes and 3 Submarines. You literally lost an aircraft Carrier in Vietnam to a country vastly inferior than Ukraine lmfao 🤣
3. I've already explained how Russia did the majority of the fighting again you've provided no counter arguments
4. Really show me a single video of Chinese, north Korean and Iranian soldiers and logistics helping Russia I'll wait, there's a difference between buying ammunition and Munitions and getting help with logistical issues and military service. If you can't understand that then you are even dumber than I think
5. Again Russia has captured numerous cities this year again I've already posted the stats with evidence
6. Afghan forces fought with you, so they are counted, that would be like ignoring British or french casualties in WWII for the allies just cherry picking at its finest and you're not including American supplied and trained Mercenaries
7. China's goal was to secure north Korea, they succeeded again I've already explained it and provided the stats
8. Phahahahahaha 😭😭😭😭😭 by 1944 the only soldiers on western front were conscripts, this is shown by the data, literally millions of German soldiers had already died on the eastern front
9.again I've already explained how much Ukraine is better, Ukraine has had double the worth in military supplies in a year than Vietnam did in 9 years lmfao 😅😆😆 and it's nit more expensive because i adjusted it for inflation
10. Us lost an average of 500 Helicopters a year and 100-300 planes a year, that's more than double what Russia has lost in nearly two years 😭😭😭😭
11. Russia literally has air superiority, they launch countless sorties every single day
So In conclusion you haven't rebuttedd a single thing I've said.
1. Russia is winning in Ukraine based on the stats
2. USA lost in Vietnam despite trying very hard
3. US military might is largely a myth as again the only countries they beat on their own doing most of the logistics and fighting post WWII is
Grenada
Nicaragua
Guatemala
Panama
Haiti
That's it, Iraq was a pathetic military yet the USA still needed massiv help and yet USA and allies still lost more aircraft in a month than Russia did in a month against Ukraine lmfao 😂
4. Even during WWII the only bit they really done was the Pacific campaign but again they had a lot of help by Britain, Netherlands, India and China, they did very little in Europe, in fact statistically speaking 70-80% of German
Artillery
Fighters
Fatalities
Surrenders
Wounded
Horses
Tanks
Half tracks
Bombers
Were all lost on the eastern front, literally nearly two thirds of total military forces on western front surrendered to USA and Britain and that's the other thing even on the western front they had massive help from Britain
WWII was basically
European theatre
Germany 70%
Italy 30%
USSR 80%
Britain 15%
USA 5%
North Africa Campaign
Britain 70%
USA 30%
Germany,90%
Italy 10%
Pacific campaign
USA 70%
Britain 25%
Others 5%
Japan 100%
5. In regards to Vietnam and Korea I really don't know why I have to repeat myself all the facts are in my part 4 argument, but US tried land operations early on but little success and failures meant they switched to defensive/minor offensive operations on ground and air campaign above, but thanks to soviet air defence systems and fighters the US wae losing 2-4x what Russia is losing in aircraft and when you look at what the US used in Vietnam how they never crushed Vietnam i will never know, suppose its just a combination of incompetence and better military commanders amd soldiers in Vietnam
Even in Afghanistan lmao the Taliban took over within a week of the USA leaving when the USSR left Afghanistan it's puppet government didn't collapse until a few months after the USSR collapsed years later 😂😭😭🤣
Honestly your military record is a joke, not saying the US military is weak or Russia is stronger, as Russia is the 4th most powerful military behind the USA which is 3rd, I'm just saying this idea that you are this invincible military that beats everyone is pure fantasy and based on lies
Your arguments are pathetic, I'm using stats, history, essays and Sources you're just crying and smoking copium and just saying the same things again and again and again yet providing no stats, history or evidence.
Pathetic, completely and utterly pathetic.
Just stop okay, take this moment to learn and stop pushing propoganda.
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@danielbwest they didn't abandon bakmhut or soledar though, I'm not downplaying anything, Ukraines last noteworthy gains were their counter offensive last year.
It's hilarious you talk about downplaying Ukraine, when the mainstream media literally glorifies any and all gains by Ukraine and minimises Russias, perfect examples, bakmhut, when Ukraine was fighting for it, it was of strategic value, when Russia won, suddenly it's not important and Ukraine was just using a trap (which is ironic because it was the other way around) another is this counter offensive, it's been going on for over a week, yet the MSM only started reporting when Ukraine took a couple villages that Russia left and Russia moved forces away from Kherson region.
There's also the ridiculous propoganda like Russia has no tanks, no weapons, no clothes and it's forces are all poorly trained, then there's the demonizing of Russia, showing all the bad things Russia does but not showing what Ukraine does, like shelling civilians, terrorist attacks in Russia and war crimes by it's troops and then literally ANYTHING that's even remotely critical of Ukraine (regardless even if you condem Russia aswell) is dismissed as rUsSiAn pRoPogAndA, it's honestly hilarious how people trust the media and governments when those same entities made up blatant lies about Iraq and lybia so that they could invade.
There's three things that are certain in life, death, taxes and western hypocrisy.
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@danielbwest show me where I glorified Russia once ? Thought not, strawman argument.
Lmao they abandoned them because they got beat by Russia lmao honestly the copium is hilarious.
What ammunition difficulties, I've been watching multiple telegram videos and independent journalists, no such issues, there was supply line issues last year regarding Artillery shells but Russia hasn't had an issue since then, you're just regurgitating what you read in the mainstream media, like the debunked Russia is running out of tanks and ammunition, it's actually Ukraine that's running out of anti air systems, it's largely reliant on NATO countries now, you think because western governments say something that it must be true lmao
I don't support Russia because actual unbiased people know that both Russia and Ukraine are equally guilty, I support Russia in taking the donbas regions, because Ukraine has been killing those people since 2014, even to this day they still shell civilian areas and launch terrorist attacks, I don't support Russia invading further or it's barbaric actions against civilians, sounds like you just can't admit that Russia is currently winning, which is why you're smoking ridiculous amounts of copium
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