Comments by "TheThirdMan" (@thethirdman225) on "The Most Powerful V8 Engine Ever (Naturally Aspirated) - 2023 Corvette Z06" video.
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@vincebenego8548
"You're no longer trying to use stats to justify it here, you're saying that it will be lobbied out of existence."
No, read what I said. The economics of electric vehicles will have established themselves well and truly before ICE is eventually banned.
"At that point it should be clear to anyone that it's not because of any statistical advantage, or for scientific reason. It's pure marketing, which I think is okay. I just think it's weird to market electric over ice under the guise of as you say statistical advantages when there aren't any."
Ask anyone who drives an electric car. The economics make ICE look ridiculous. Even charging off the power grid still costs about 1/5 of the aggregate cost of fuel. Then imaging the cost saving when solar and storage batteries are factored in On top of that, Tesla, for example, have no maintenance schedule. There's no 15,000 km service. It just tells you when it needs something. That means the vast majority of the basic running costs is simply replacing consumables like tyres and brake pads.
And you're telling me there are no statistical advantages?
"When cars are parked they're not always parked or can't always be parked in convenient locations to where they will be able to be charged."
They're not normally parked in fuel stations either.
"The thing about Scandinavia, is that it's a small place in general. There just aren't that many places to go to run out of juice. If it were Australia's undeveloped territories, then ice has the clear advantage. Rapid is the only thing that's practical, but that's in theory. "
In outback Australia, electric can make even more sense. The opportunities for setting up solar arrays are almost limitless. Rapid charging would only be necessary for transit stuff. When the vehicle is parked at home, it can be virtually constantly trickle charging. You can't do that with ICE. My cousin lives in one of the less populated parts of South Australia and he just bought a Tesla Model Y. He has more than a hundred solar panels on his roof - which have been there for a couple of decades because that's what we do. His running costs are going to be next to zero. There are already plenty of examples of people driving across the Nullabor Plain in electric cars. You should look that up. It's entirely possible.
"Like I said Evs have their place, and uses, but it's not taking out ice.'
I know there are holdouts who still want their 10 litre trucks. The fact is that, sooner or later, all major manufacturers will move to EV. It's inevitable. I pointed out earlier that even Ferrari are on the verge of phasing out their V12s. In ten years, the only ICE cars still being produced will be hybrids.
"Manufacturers are pressured by lobbyists and law makers."
Most of all they are responding to the market. That's simple economics. Supply and demand.
"As in morally correct which has everything to do with the left wing and nothing to do with making cars."
This is almost exclusively an American point of view. I'm not the one politicising it. The rest of the world knows what the science has already shown. Now they're going to reap the economic benefits. America is one of the very few places on the planet where the science is not accepted and has been turned into a political football.
"Do you get how this works?"
I've already shown that the economics will drive this. It gets better. Once you get of the ICE merry-go-round, the next thing you're no longer talking about how 'gas prices used to be under $2 and now they're $7'. The costs of running an EV instantly get you off the dependence on oil companies.
"Like I said, it's disingenuous pushy leftist lead philosophical marketing."
Since when is economic viability an lefty matter? And why are you so determined to politicise it?
"I'm just saying it's not worth it, and it won't make our lives better."
And I've already shown that it already is. Furthermore, in terms of transport costs, they can only improve cost of living. When transport costs less, products cost less. It's a significant component and a major contribution to the inflation problems of the las year.
"Electricity prices fluctuate too, just not as much as gas."
Not when you're charging off grid and not nearly as much as fuel, especially when the cost of running an EV is already 1/5 that of the average family car.
"Eliminating gas distribution is not a business case, because gas is used used beyond cars, which is why full electrification is so unrealistic, impractical, and unnecessary."
Keep telling yourself that.
"You can't go out fair, and square, so you pay some guy to change the rule book."
I don't need to . The economics speak for themselves.
"Range anxiety, slow fill up time, no gas bottle, no towing, the ultimate expenses when the battery, and motors have to be replaced?"
ICE vehicles are no less immune. Probably more so, in fact.
"MANDADING A CAR LIKE THAT BE PRODUCES BY ALL MANUFACTURES, BECAUSE PARTISAN LEFIST IDIOLOGY DEEMS IT MORALLY ACCEPTABLE?"
I'm finally going to say this: I don't care. I really don't.
I have never cared for politicising this matter. It just doesn't work on me. Furthermore, it's not remotely relevant and places an obstacle in the way of rational discussion. Governments will do what governments will do. I am not particularly interested in that. By the time it happens, the ICE will be irrelevant except for places like Africa, where infrastructure is poor and few people can afford cars anyway. Everywhere else, the ICE will be dead, save for a few holdouts and conspiracy theorists.
This has nothing to do with ideology and everything to do with economics. How is that 'leftist'? It's not: it's straight up Adam Smith.
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