Comments by "Jim Taylor" (@jimtaylor294) on "HEIC Nemesis - Guide 320" video.

  1. For those confused by the EIC's name choice for this ship: Nemesis is the name of the ancient Greek goddess of Vengence (or Retribution; same thing really); specifically toward the sin of Hubris; arrogance before the gods. She's also perhaps the most well known of the many Oceanids , and is typically associated with the sea & rivers. Royal Navy ships called Revenge & Vengence have been a classic staple (alongwith Terror , Terrible , Furious & many others), as was Erebus , the Greek god of darkness (and Nemesis's father). At least two of the other Oceanids have had actual RN Warships named after them; HMS Calypso & HMS Acaste . Really; it's an historical oddity that Nemesis hasn't been the name of a Royal Navy ship (yet).
    100
  2. ^x2 Hardly. Association with a ship that obliterated an entire enemy fleet by herself is if anything a selling point for a name :P . In reality the reason is the same for why the RN didn't name more than two of her Battlecruisers after big cats: the potential name catalog was simply too vast already (royals, admirals, personal qualities, ancient gods or dieties, famous battles, abstract concepts, etc; the RN has never had a shortage of names).  @johnjephcote7636  Good point (and snippet of history). I admit I'd forgotten about Sub's, which is ironic as Thetis is one of the named Sub's I've long known of.
    8
  3. Nemesis is the name of the ancient Greek goddess of Vengence... quite a good name for a warship really ^_^ .
    5
  4.  @timothyhouse1622  They did in that era; thus I fail to see a point in your - decidedly ill mannered - remark. That; and merchantmen having at least some armaments was the norm' for most of history, to protect the ship from pirates, but also to be of use to the host state as lesser warships in time of war.
    5
  5.  @magnemoe1  Still good for defending transports from pirates & other countries' warships though, which the EIC did have to do at various points in history. Granted the RN was supposed to do that; but the EIC likely saw it as prudent not to be overly-reliant on an external organization for defending their interests.
    4
  6.  @jmantime  Agreed re' salvaging her, or at least recovering a significant part of her (one of the turrets perhaps) for a museum on land.
    4
  7. Nemesis is the name of the ancient Greek goddess of Vengence. The most well known of the Oceanids . Royal Navy ships called Revenge & Vengence have also been a classic staple (alongwith Terror , Terrible , Furious & many others), as was Erebus , the Greek god of darkness (and Nemesis's father).
    4
  8. Companies today try to virtue signal. The EIC - as in many things - did it before it was fashionable.
    3
  9.  @MrSinny  For a time at least; apparently the vessels were all sold as barter, as the Soviet Ruble was non-convertable, and ships are worth a fair bit as scrap.
    3
  10.  @ronmaximilian6953  Agreed ^_^ . Though needless to say the RN named at least one of theirs Vengance , which is certainly fitting given the primary mission .
    2
  11. Peace; through Superior Firepower Certainly would be satisfying to see the RN commission a new class of Cruiser, and name the lead ship Nemesis ^_^
    2
  12. Seconded. Have wanted to build a scale model of her for a long time ^_^
    2
  13. #EpicSarcasmFail
    2
  14. ^ Not a clue what that was supposed to mean.
    1
  15. ^ Nah; the British had tried to sell the Chinese other goods, without success. Trading Tea for gold & silver was unsustainable (unlike agrarian goods, Gold & Silver are damn hard go replace once sold away) and China had refused repeated offers to buy Tea plants & knowhow from China. The Indians were really good at growing Opium, and the Chinese really wanted it; the result was inevitable. Eventually the British got around the Chinese government and got Tea plants & knowhow anyway, making India, Ceylon & East-Africa into Tea growing powerhouses. Moral of the story: don't be like China's Qing regime. If you refuse to trade sensibly with someone, they will find a way to cirvumvent you, likely to your detriment. Had the Qing made a deal with the British over Tea plants, there would've been no mass Opioid influx, nor wars over it.
    1
  16. Nah. The Indians had made the Opium possible, and China had refused to just sell the British some Tea bushes. The UK simply took the expediant option. Eventually the Chinese Tea monopoly was broken anyway; mooting the issue and making India - and later Ceylon & East-Africa - a Tea growing powerhouse.
    1
  17. Veterans of British Humour: You must be new here
    1