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@huawafabe You're doing a comparison with high German, like this guy is doing as well.
If you take the Nedderdüütsch/Lower Saxon language, then you'll see, where parts of English are coming from.
Nedderdüütsch is still spoken here all along the coast lines (North Sea and Baltic Sea), by about 4 million Germans.
E the, LS de, G der, die, das
E water, LS water, G Wasser
E school, LS school, G Schule
E he, she, me, you/ LS he, se, mie, yi/ G er, sie, mir/mich, du/Sie
E clock/ LS klock/ G Uhr
So "ten o'clock" would be "klock tein" or "zehn Uhr"
Ah, and the origin "bone" in old German is "Bein/Knochen", this is, why it's called "Eisbein".
Groetens ut Bremen
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@StoutProper Bremen here 😉
Lots of todays English language is based of the Lower Saxon and Frisian languages, when the Anglo-Saxons arrived in todays England. Of course other were addited to that, and about 1200 years change every language, but, there are still lots of words in common, like:
E school/LS school/ G Schule
E water/ LS water/ G Wasser
E clock/ LS klock/ G Uhr
E sister/LS soster/ G Schwester
E the/ LS de/ G der, die, das
E he, she, me, you/ LS he, se, mie, yi/ G er, sie, mir/mich, du/Sie
E ten/ LS tein/ G zehn
So "ten o'clock" = "klock tein" =
"zehn Uhr".
In case, you're Welsh?!
Thats also a Saxon word, and the meaning is "the other ones, the ones from abroad, the strangers".
When the Saxons arrived in todays England, they were calling all tribes, living to the west of their territories " de Welschen/ the Welsh".
Btw, if you're moving into another town/ village in the North of Germany, you're still "de Welschen".
Groetens ut Bremen
Greetings from Bremen
Gruesse aus Bremen
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Yes.
Infact todays English is based on Lower Saxon language...not so much on todays high German !!
Lower-Saxon = English
he, se, mie, yi = he, she, me, you
dat/wat = that/what
de = the "d " = "th"
(no der, die, das)
us = us
open = open
water = water
school = school
broken = broken
clock tein = ten o'clock
Lower Saxon language gets pronounced "German style" but with a "rrr" rolling "r" 😊
About 4ish million Germans living along the coast lines of the North Sea and Baltic Sea are still speaking Lower-Saxon language..
Lower Saxon = Nedder Düütsch
Lower Saxony = Neddersassen
Todays English term "Welsh" origins from the ancient Saxons, which were living in todays England, they were calling ALL tribes living to the west of their territory (todays England) = de Welschen/the Welsh, and the meaning is "the other ones, the strangers, the ones from abroad".
The Dutch from the Holland regions and Germans speaking Lower-Saxon language can easily chat as well ...
Greetings from Bremen 👋
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@frankhooper7871 Northern German here. But not in the Nedderdüütsch/Lower Saxon language, there you still see:
E water/LS water/G Wasser
E father/LS fadder/G Vater
E sister/LS soster/ G Schwester
E one, two, three/LS een, twee, dree/G eins, zwei, drei
E clock/LS klock/G Uhr
E school/ LS school/ G Schule
E he, she, me, you/ LS he, se, mie, yi/ G er, sie, mir/mich, du/Sie
E the/LS de/ G der, die, das
The English origins partly from the Lower Saxon and Frisian languages, and not from the high German language family.
Ten o'clock = klock tein = zehn Uhr
Groetens ut Bremen 😉
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@Bjowolf2 You compare todays English language with todays high German, which doesn't work like that.
If you compare it with the Lower Saxon/ Nedderdüütsch and Frisian languages, you'll see, that there is much more in common.
Both languages are still spoken by about 4 million Germans all along the coast lines (North Sea and Baltic Sea).
Like:
E that/ LS dat/ G das
E water/ LS water/ G Wasser
E school/ LS school/ G Schule
E the/ LS de/ G der, die, das
E sister/ LS soster/ G Schwester
E he, she, me, you/ LS he, se, mie, yi/ G er, sie, mir/mich/ du/Sie
E clock / LS klock/ G Uhr
E ten/ LS tein/ G zehn
Ten o'clock = klock tein = zehn Uhr
Groetens ut Bremen
Greetings from Bremen
Grüße aus Bremen
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@Bjowolf2 All correct, but I was talking about the (still) visible simmularities between Lower Saxon language and English, as most people tend to compare "Hochdeutsch/High German" with English, and of course there the "roots" of both languages are not as visible.
Btw, I do speak the Lower Saxon language and (fun fact 😊) could have a nice chat with my Dutch collegue from Groningen, where they speak the "Groningen dialekt" (language!).
You shouldn't forget that languages don't stop at a "border", but "softly" mix, therefor at some parts there even exists a
"mix" of Frisian/Lower Saxon language and of course, like all languages they have their regional dialects on top of that, sometimes even from village to village (as in the old days without the todays infrastructure 20 km was a huge distance).
Btw, my London born spouse doesn't understand the Lower Saxon language 😄
Groetens ut Bremen to Danmark
Greetings to Denmark from Bremen 😉
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@moonhunter9993 Bitte schön, gern geschehen 😉
Kleiner Hinweis: Friesisch und Nedderdüütsch sind anerkannte Sprachen, und als "Minderheiten Sprachen geschützt und eingetragen als UNESCO Weltkulturerbe", und haben natürlich, wie alle Sprachen, auch ihre eigenen Dialekte.
Falls Interesse bestehen sollte: die Uni Göttingen bietet das Studienfach "Nedderdüütsche Spraak" an, und es gibt das "Institut für Niederdeutsche Sprache Bremen", dort kann man ebenfalls Infomaterial etc bekommen.
The funny thing is, that I thought, that "my" London born spouse would "sort of" easily understand the Lower Saxon/Nedderdüütsch language, when I'm talking with our neighbours, but it doesn't work like that, as the pronounciation is too different.
Forgot to say, there are "West Frisia/Holland/NL, East Frisia/Lower Saxony/Germany, Frisia/LS/Ger, and North Frisia/Schleswig-Holstein, Ger. They can talk to each other easily, but of course with their regional dialects.
Groetens ut Bremen
Greetings from Bremen
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@moonhunter9993 Me too, as for some decades they were a bit "forgotten, not in favour", now they get supported again, also at school, and people, applying at public jobs, like at a bank, civil service or peoples homes, get prior employed, when able to speak "High German as well as Nedderdüütsch or Frisian".
Have a nice day 😉
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@satyr1349 Frisian and Lower Saxon/Nedderdüütsch language are partly the roots of English language, both languages are still spoken over here in Germany all along the coast lines (North Sea and Baltic Sea) by about 4 million Germans.
Like:
E the/ LS de/ G der, die, das
E water/ LS water/ G Wasser
E that/ LS dat/ G das
E school/ LS school/ G Schule
E he, she, me, you/ LS he, se, mie, yi/ G er, sie, mir/ mich, du/ Sie
E sister/ LS soster/ G Schwester
E ten/ LS tein/ G zehn
E clock/ LS klock/ G Uhr
So ten o'clock = klock tein = zehn Uhr.
Groetens ut Bremen
Greetings from Bremen
Grüße aus Bremen
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@diegomartinez7180 Yes.
It' origins on the ancient Germanic tribes, like the "Alemannen", todays federal state of Baden-Württemberg, bordering todays France...
Depending on which ancient Germanic tribes where located to their neighbours, todays Germany's neighbouring countries are calling Germany = Saxion, Prussian, etc = Germany is the country with the most different names 😂
Greetings from Deutschland 👋🍻
Btw, the term "deutsch" origins from the term "Thiutisk = us people", and then evolved over the last 2.000ish years to = tuisk, tysk, duits, dutch, teutsch, düütsch, deutsch" 😂
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The Romans called ALL tribes living to the right side of the river Rhine "Germanic", while those tribes which were living there didn't even call themselfes that.
The term "Deutsch" origins from the term "Thiutisk = us people", which evolved over the last 2.000ish years to "tysk, duits, dutch, teutsch, düütsch, deutsch ".
Germany is the country with the most different names, given by the neighbouring ancient tribes, which were living to the ancient "Germanic tribes....like the "Alemannen, todays federal state of Baden-Württemberg", bordering todays France....etc 😊
Greetings from Deutschland to Canada 😊👋
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@12tanuha21
The Romans left Britannia at 410 AD (written down by them).
The ancient Saxons arrived first at about 450 AD in todays England, at that time they were pagan, no church people had been around there in todays federal states of Lower Saxony, Bremen, Hamburg and partly Saxony-Anhalt (only the Saxony part).
Wilehad, a monk from Lindisfarne, was missioning the ancient Saxons on behalf of Charlemagne, while the ancient Saxons were still fighting against the ancient Franks/Charlemagne troops, Wilehad was the first Bishop of Bremen in 789 AD.
This is, why I wrote "Lower-Saxon language/then", but of course over here it's Low German /de Nedderdüütsche spraak ...
Hol di fuchtig met Groetens ut Bremen 😊
All the best with greetings from Bremen 🍻
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@Bjowolf2
Well, German language has "der, die, das", while Lower-Saxon and English just have "de/the" and so on.
Btw, by language scientists there are the West- Germanic languages: English, Dutch, Flamic, German.
And the East Germanic languages: Danish, Swedish, Norwegian
Just saying
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@xaverlustig3581
Correct, and my answer was and still is = Lower-Saxon language still is in use until today....by about 4ish million Germans living along the coast lines of the North Sea and Baltic Sea 😊...and the simularity still is VERY visible 😅
Lower-Saxon = English
he,se, mie, yi = he,she, me, you
dat/wat = that/what
de = the (no : der, die, das)
us = us
as = as
water = water
school = school
broken = broken
open = open
beer = beer
soster = sister
modder = mother "dd" = "th"
klock tein = ten o'clock
etc, etc... 😊
Greetings 🖐
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@WaterShowsProd
The Lower-Saxon language doesn't have noun genders either.
It also has just "de" = "the", the "e" in "de" gets pronounced like the "e"in "the".
Unfortunately high German always gets compared with English and the other Germanic languages, instead it should be compared with the Lower-Saxon language, as that is the root of todays English...
Lower-Saxon language still gets spoken by about 4ish million Germans living along the coast lines of the North Sea and Baltic Sea.
Lower-Saxon = English
he, se, mie, yi = he, she, me, you
dat/wat = that/what
de = the "d" = "th"
us = us
as = as
water = water
school = school
broken = broken
open = open
beer = beer
soster = sister
modder = mother "dd" = "th"
klock tein = ten o'clock
etc, etc
Lower-Saxon gets pronounced the "German" way, but the "r" gets rrroled ...which might sound a bit "Scottish" 😁
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Well, "de Welschen/the Welsh" the ancient Saxons were calling all those tribes which were living to the west of their territory (todays England), the meaning is "the other ones, the ones from abroad, the strangers".
Btw, the Romans were calling ALL tribes living to the right side of the river Rhine "Germanic", while those tribes which were living there didn't even call themselfes that.
Like you are calling yourself "Cymry", the "Germans" are calling themselfs "Deutsch"...
The term Deutsch origins from the term = Thiutisk = us people....and over the last 2.000ish years changed into tysk, duits, dutch, teutsch, düütsch, deutsch 😊
There you go...😅
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@MartialArtUK
Nope, they're speaking gaelic..
But high German is NOT Lower-Saxon language, so in Lower Saxon it still would be Welsch/Welsh...
Btw, you Brits are calling us how the Romans were calling us = German...and the English language gave Cymru the term "Wales" 🥳
The term "deutsch" origins from "Thiutisk = us people", and it evolved over the last 2.000ish years to = tuisk, tysk, duits, dutch, teutsch, düütsch, deutsch 😂
So you're calling the Dutch = deutsch...😁
Btw, nice vids at your channel...used to do Tae Kwon Do 😎
Cheers 🍻
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In case you're English, then about 30ish % of your DNA is Saxon DNA, all the other people coming over into todays England didn't leave any notable DNA in the English DNA.
About 10ish % of the English DNA is shared from ancient tribes from Danish/Jutes, Belgians, Dutch, Frisians, Normans.
The Lower-Saxon language is partly the root of todays English ...
Lower-Saxon = English
he,se, mie, yi = he, she, me, you
dat/wat = that/ what
de = the "dd" = "th"
us = us
as = as
water = water
school = school
broken = broken
open = open
beer = beer
modder = mother
klock tein = ten o'clock ...etc, etc...
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@silvertbird1 Officialy there are the "Western Germanic" languages, like English, Dutch, Flamic, German and the "Eastern Germanic" languages, like Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, as ALL of them are based on the "Indogermanic language roots".
Not to forget, opposit to an Island, over here on the Continent the "language borders" are not nessesarily where a country border is, apart from each country's official language. Therefor in most (country border) regions the languages are "swapping" into the other country 😉
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The Romans were calling ALL tribes living to the right side of the river Rhine "Germanic", while those tribes which were living there didn't even call themselves that, instead they were calling themselves "Thiutisk = us people ", and then evolved over the last 2.000ish years to = tuisk, tysk, duits, dutch, teutsch, düütsch, deutsch 😂
Btw, the today English term "window" is Lower-Saxon language and the meaning is "wind eye".
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@WitchVillager
Well, the "old English" is closer towards "Lower Saxon/German language ", which still exists today all over the North of Germany along the coast lines (North Sea and Baltic Sea), and is spoken by about 5ish million Germans.
As it's its own language and quite different to "High German/Hoch Deutsch" you still had to learn the "High German ", because nobody would understand you in the "rest" of Germany 😊
Btw, my London born spouse doesn't understand "Lower Saxon language " at all (including my married on English family), but they all think it sounds quite nice and not as "hard" as "High German " 😊.
Some examples:
Lower Saxon = English
he, se, mie, yi = he, she, me, you
dat, wat = that, what
de = the
as = as
us = us
water = water
school = school
broken = broken
talk = talk
melk = milk
soster = sister
klock tein = ten o'clock
Of course the pronounciation is different to the English language...
Greetings from Germany 🙂
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@DougRayPhillips
West -Germanic languages are: English, Dutch, Flamic, German
East-Germanic languages are:
Danish, Swedish, Norwegian
Lower-Saxon language = English
he, se, mie, yi = he, she, me, you
dat, wat = that, what
de = the
as = as
us = us
broken = broken
talk = talk
school = school
water = water
soster = sister
tell = tell
klock tein = ten o'clock
modder = mother (dd = th)
"De Welschen/the Welsh " the ancient Saxons were calling all those tribes which were living to the west (todays England) of their territory and it means " the other ones, the ones from abroad, the strangers ".
Until today you're "de Welschen/the Welsh " when moving into another town or small village in Lower Saxony.
Btw, there are still about 5ish million Northern Germans speaking the Lower Saxon language all along the coast lines (North Sea and Baltic Sea), and the Lower Saxon language is under Unesco world heritage protected as a "minority language", same as the Frisian language.
Greetings from Germany
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@ami443 NO.
The Romans called ALL tribes living to the right side of the river Rhine "Germanic", while those tribes which were living there didn't even call themselfes that.
The term "Deutsch" origins from the term "Thiutisk = us people", and evolved over the last 2.000ish years to "tysk, duits, dutch, teutsch, düütsch, deutsch".
The Celts were originally living at todays areas of Austria, Bavaria and Baden-Württemberg/Germany, Switzerland and partly France, about 1.000 years later the Celts moved on towards todays Ireland and the UK.
West Germanic languages are English, Dutch, Frisian, Lower-Saxon and German languages.
North Germanic languages are Norwegian, Swedish and Danish.
Greetings 🖐
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Tiny correction please = "Germanic" are all languages like = English, Dutch, German, Frisian, Lower-Saxon...Danish, Swedish, Norwegian ..
But German are the people...Germanic were all ancient tribes, like the Franks, Saxons, Jutes, Belgians, Dutch, Frisians, Vikings etc
So your Royals are very German...like all English, as all English people have by one third ancient Saxons DNA 😂
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@augth NO.
You can't compare todays German language with the English language, you have to compare the English language with the Lower Saxon/German language...as the High German language isn't comparable with the Lower Saxon/German/Nedderdüütsch language...
Lower Saxon = English
he, se, mie, yi = he, she, me, you
dat, wat = that, what
us = us
de = the (dd = th)
(no : der, die, das)
water = water
school = school
broken = broken
modder = mother
soster = sister
open = open
klock tein = ten o'clock
etc, etc, the "r" is "rolled" like the Gaelic "r"
Even the todays "English word/term" Welsh origins from the Saxons, which were calling all those tribes, which were living to the west of their territory (todays England) "de Welschen/the Welsh", and the meaning is "the other ones, the ones from abroad, the strangers ".
One still gets called "de Welschen" in Lower Saxony/Germany, when moving into another town/village 😊
The Lower Saxon/German language is still spoken by about 4ish million Germans living in the North of Germany, all along the coast lines of the North Sea and Baltic Sea, and is a "Unesco world heritage protected minority language", like Frisian, Scottish or Welsh languages.
Apart from that : English, Dutch and German are West Germanic languages.
Norwegian, Swedish and Danish are North Germanic languages.
Hol di fuchtig met groetens ut Bremen 🖐
All the best with greetings from Bremen 😊
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@CasabaHowitzer 😁
Yes, this guy, you responded to always write fact free stuff ..
About "Saxony" =
the federal state of Saxony is by name only Saxon, as it got its name due to in those days usual wedding politics, the people of todays Saxony are the descendants of the ancient Slavic tribes = the Sorbic people...and yes, they speak euther high German or the Sorbic language.
The territories of the ancient Saxons were living in todays federal states of Lower Saxony, Bremen, Hamburg and partly Saxony-Anhalt (only the Saxony part), the Lower-Saxon language is still spoken by about 4ish million Germans living along the coast lines of the North Sea and Baltic Sea.
Lower-Saxon language = Low German, so yes, the language still exists, and is a Unesco world heritage protected minority language, same as the Frisian, Sorbic, Scottish and Welsh languages 😊
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@WaterShowsProd 😊
Well, the ancient Saxons were living in todays federal states of Lower Saxony, Bremen, Hamburg and partly Saxony-Anhalt (only the Saxony part).
Todays federal state of Saxony is by name only Saxon, as it got its name due to in those days usual wedding politics, the people of todays Saxony are the descendants of the ancient Slavic tribes = the Sorbic people.
The territories of the ancient Saxons didn't have "sound shift" like the rest of todays Germany, hence it never "discarded" the gender, since it never existed in the Lower-Saxon language 😊
When my English sister in law visited us over here in Bremen, one of the shop had a sign outside the shop "wi hept open"
pronounced like "ve hapt open"
= we are (have) open, she looked quite confused when I read it out to her 😁
Sett yi daal, wullt yi een Koffie or
(sit you down, want/would you (like) a Coffee or)
een Tee or wullt yi wat anners
(a Tee or want/would you (like) what else)
drinken?
(drink?).
Those sentences above might sound confusing to you, but when spoken and pronounced properly, you can here the simularity 😊
Just writing it here without hearing it sets limits, unfortunately...
My London born spouse and people speaking high German only = don't understand Lower-Saxon language, but the Dutch living at the two Holland regions can easily chat with people from north-west Germany when speaking Lower-Saxon language 😁
And reading Dutch, Norwegian, Swedish and Danish is easy as well ...probably all related to the times of the Hanseatic League...as Lower-Saxon language was the official language at that time...
Btw, todays English term "Welsh" origins from the ancient Saxons, as they were calling ALL tribes living to the west of their territory (todays England) "de Welschen/the Welsh", and the meaning is "the other ones, the strangers, the ones from abroad".
Knowing, that the English get called "sassenachs", even there you're using Lower-Saxon language, as Sassen = Saxons.
Hence = Lower Saxony = Neddersassen...
"dd" = "th" =
Netherlands = Lowlands 😁
And Dutch = well, you're actually calling the Dutch = German...
It origins from the ancient term "Thiutisk = us people", which is what the ancient tribes living in todays Germany were calling themselves, and it evolved over the last 2.000ish years to = tuisk, tysk, duits, dutch, teutsch, düütsch, deutsch 😂
Greetings to Cymru from Bremen 😊🍻
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@WaterShowsProd 😊
No, high German and Lower-Saxon have the same roots = Indogermanic, but developed differently due to the sound shift, which happened all over Germany at 375/376, when the Huns arrived, not though in the regions, where the ancient Saxons used to live = as there the "Continental transmigration" didn't happen, when looking at a map, the people simply did a "short cut", moving rather south in a "straight line", considering the circumstances ...
I've looked up about the German language, and Wikipedia has a very good description about it in English 😊 Very recommendable !
Btw, in Germany 5 languages get spoken =
high German/the official language !!
Lower-Saxon language/spoken all along the north sea coast/Baltic Sea coast lines
Sorbic = spoken in some east parts of Germany /ex territories of the ancient Slavic tribes/Sorbic people
Bavarian = Bavaria
All of those languages have their regional dialects as well, like all languages have that.
Wow, learning Asian languages sounds tough, as that includes learning the different writing as well ...
I wish you all the best with very foggy greetings from Bremen 👋 🍻
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@kgbgb3663
Well, Frisian language same as Lower-Saxon language, both are the roots (partly) of todays English...and like all languages, they have their regional dialects as well...
As I'm speaking Lower-Saxon language, I see lots of simularities to todays English...
The words are very simular, or even the same, but get pronounced different, like
Lower-Saxon = English
he,se,mie, yi = he, she, me, you
dat/wat = that/what
de = the (no der, die, das)
us = us
as = as
water = water
school = school
broken = broken
open = open
modder = mother "dd" = "th "
beer = beer
klock tein = ten o'clock
etc, etc...
While Dutch people from around Groningen would understand Lower-Saxon language, English people won't get a word due to the very different pronounciation 😅
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@kgbgb3663 😊
Well, going through all those different languages, just to learn high German, would be quite a challenge...
Difference is, that high German language has
"the = der, die, das"
.......= male, female, neutral
best thing to learn that is straight away, and not "around the corner" by learning other languages first, which might be simular...could get a bit confusing 😊
Have a nice weekend with greetings from Bremen 👋
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