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Comments by "Kenneth Dean Miller" (@kennethdeanmiller7324) on "HMS Caledonia - Guide 383" video.
Yes, but when you build a very large ship sometimes it doesn't sail particularly well. And when you build a very large ship, that is bigger than most but has excellent sailing abilities then you tend to want them to copy that design. And because of the expense of a first rate, if you have a design that you know works very well, it makes more sense to copy that one rather than design a new ship from scratch that may not sail very well & ends up having to be cut down into a 2nd or 3rd rate. Hence the saying "If it ain't broken then don't fix it!" And when you are paying vast amounts of money for these ships, you want them to be right the first time & copying a ship that works well makes a lot of sense cuz it means that those ships should also work well. I'm sure a lot of the shipbuilders wanted to consider there job as an art. And building a similar ship in today's world COULD BE considered an art. But back then those ships were needed for a purpose and copying ships that were best suited to perform that purpose was more important than trying to sail an "artwork" into battle. I think that is where the French and Spanish messed up. A fighting ship is going to take damage, but can mostly be repaired. Sail an artwork into battle and you may get your artwork surrendered to the enemy with a lot of lives lost in the process.
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@williestyle35 Well nowadays, everything is so complicated you have to plan everything out. Just like building a house. You've got to know what you want and draw it out on paper to be able to purchase & assemble all you need to build it. But a house doesn't have to worry about sailing through the ocean. Once they had created a ship that had all the qualities that they wanted and it would sail better than most others of that size then they tended to want it copied. But the thing about it too is that sometimes it was hard to find timber large enough to copy a ship of that size. I imagine it took A LOT OF oak trees to build a Navy the size of the Royal Navy back then. And I imagine some ship builders wanted to build a ship from seasoned wood from timbers nearby & easy to cut & haul rather than to pay for timbers from someone else that cut & let it season. Hence trying to make something from what you already have at hand rather than copy a tried & true method that they know works well. Back in 1990 my stepfather Billy got a small workers comp settlement of $60,000. It wasn't much compared to the damage to his back but he was determined to make the best of it. He bought a 5 acre property in South Carolina for $900 an acre. Spent $8k having a deep well drilled & another $2k for electricity to a temporary pole & light. And my Mom drew the plans and ordered most of what we needed. And Billy & I built a house there with very little left over. And the only thing left unfinished was a bit of drywall. It had a 16' x 32' basement & footings x 1.5 the size of the basement. He laid the block while I mixed the mortar in a bathtub and carried him the cinder blocks. They had the basement dug out and a slab laid before I went up there from Atlanta. After he did the basement we had the footings poured and laid the block to make it even with the basement. Then it didn't take long to do the floor & frame it. We needed 4 people to get the roof started cuz you gotta have someone on each corner to be able to do the middle beam that you attach the ceiling joyces to. To help save on wood and to have extra head room we had the living room go from 8' to 14' & it gave him extra space to hang his deer head trophies and large fish trophies. He had 3 deer heads. 2x 8 pointers & a ten pointer. But one of the 8 pointers was as big or bigger than the 10 point. But all 3 were beautiful typical style racks. Oh, that reminds me. After they left for South Carolina I was still staying near Atlanta working. And I noticed 2 mornings in a row a buck came up to the back of the trailer just pawing the ground & blowing real loud. I was like wtf is up with this deer? I got a good look at him and he was at least a big 8 point. And I had a double barrel 12 guage shotgun right there too. But I was like "Damn, I gotta go to work I don't have enough time to even field dress this deer." Which if you don't then it's dangerous to eat if you don't gut it within about 3 hours. But after I got to work I called Billy & told him about it. I had never killed a deer & had the perfect chance but I couldn't do it. It didn't feel right. At the time we had a black Labrador Retriever named Chevis. And Billly said "No, you can't shoot THAT deer. He's looking for Chevis. Every morning he comes up pawing the ground and blowing wanting Chevis to come out & play! So I get up & let Chevis out & they go running together." I of course after LMAO was VERY GLAD and I have still have never killed a deer. OMG, I helped Billy carry numerous deer outta the woods. Luckily he got a 4 wheeler & could manage it himself after that. For some stupid reason South Carolina brought in some coyotes to the area. And so they ended up having coyotes running around causing a lot of trouble. Why they wanted to "re-introduce" coyotes to the area was cause they weren't around to know what a pain in the ass coyotes were & that was why they all got killed off. Duh. They didn't kill them for the fun of it. Imagine a pack of hungry wolves. Now imagine that you let your dog out to go pee and all of a sudden your dog is getting eaten by a pack of wolves. Same thing but coyotes are just a tad smaller. Now imagine that was your 5 year old daughter getting eaten instead of your dog. All of sudden nature ain't so friendly anymore. There are reasons humans kill other predators. Cuz our children, pets, chickens & our live stock are vulnerable. Anybody hear about the old lady & or little kids that got eaten by an alligator? The kid that was eaten was on Disney property. I think the parents set that one up! "Damn, we got too many kids! I know how we can get rid of the one we don't like & get rich in the process." Disney & alligators. Now who saw that coming? OK let's go down by the creek and see the new alligator ride.
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@williestyle35 Building a ship that sails good when loaded down with crew & cannons and every thing a ship needs to take the fight to the enemy was a "craft" that the English learned quickly out of necessity to protect their way of life and their homeland from invasion. Living on an island all of your threats at that time had to come by sea, except for the Scott's. And the English tended to be more plentiful than the Scottish so it was usually in their best interest to help back the British so the sea lanes were open to them. And a vessel that sails good when loaded down was also what merchant sailors needed as well. Ie: The East India Co & the tea, spice & opium traders. People tend to prefer to live in peace but back then I guess there was less to go around and I guess the French just wanted more than what they were getting so war with the English was the only way to get equal footing but never really happened. When, if they had just tried to haul as many goods & give people good deals on stuff they could have just competed with the British economically instead of all out war.
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