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Comments by "John Fisher" (@johnfisher9692) on "Battlecruisers F2 & F3 (NB) - Guide 378" video.
@alexalbrecht5768 IMO Germany only ever built ONE Battlecruiser Von Der Tann. From the Moltke class onward the ships of 1stSg were designed to supplement the Battle line and were built far more on the scale of Battleships rather than as ships designed to hunt down and kill enemy cruisers, which was the original concept. They should more properly be called Light Fast Battleships not battlecruisers. But that argument rill rage till the end of time.
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@alexalbrecht5768 As I said, my opinion and the German ships were NOT designed to hunt cruisers as was the original concept, they were essentially second line BATTLESHIPS and build like that. Also not that the first battlecruisers the British built were the Lions. The six I class were conceived designed and built as Dreadnought Armoured Cruisers and were misused by putting them against ships with guns there were not built to face. The Lions proved well able to stand against Hippers ships and were still at sea ready to fight the next day while 1stSG ran whimpering for home unfit for battle. The loss of Queen Mary is less due to poor design than good and very lucky shooting by the Germans in hitting turrets and unstable propellant. German designs were nowhere near as great as you think and had many shortcomings that other Navy's couldn't tolerate such as overly cramped conditions for the crew as they were designed for very short deployments. There is more to a warship than simplistic comparisons of guns, speed and armour and German sea trial speeds were usually exaggerated
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It would have been a different WW2 if these BC's had been built and the Germans would not have enjoyed it
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@alexalbrecht5768 Oh so typical Wehraboo selective fact picking garbage overlooking many facts they don't like. 1stSG were very brave when bombarding undefended seaside towns but their first action when sighting ships capable of putting up a fight was RUN AWAY. German near Battleship level armour against defective shells and they are wrecks. British ships with thinner armour hit by nearly as many shells whcih worked as designed and they are still at sea, combat capable and looking to renew the fight. Which ships are superior??? Only winning with superior numbers hmm, 2nd Narvik when 5 British DD's outfought twice their number. Glowworm crippled a ship 10 times her size in a heroic battle. Barrents Sea when much smaller cruisers fought off a ship which out gunned them and should have won/ Hood was sunk by the luckiest shot in naval warfare which PoW was sunk under an air attack which would have sunk ANY BB of the time and was hit OUTSIDE her torpedo protection. The KGV's, (ton for ton) were the best of the3 WW2 Battleships and far better than the illegal, treaty breaking Bismarck. And wasn't that ship crippled by ONE small torpedo carried by obsolescent aircraft? What a rubbish design. And yes treaty violating, do some real research. German ships only ever won when the odds were heavily in their favor.
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@alexalbrecht5768 So Wehraboo with the policy of cherry picking facts and posting distortions. 1stSG was hit by shells with poor fuses with caused minimal damage yet were hors de combat and were lucky to get home. SMS Seydlitz hit bottom due to proressive flooding caused by combat damage and should count as sunk but salvaged, though I can imagine the screams of outrage already. The British BC with their lighter armour were hit by almost as many shells which worked as designed but next day were still at sea, still combat capable and looking for a fight. So much for "superior" German design. Hood was sunk by a galaxy level lucky shot, but that happens in war, it nearly happened to Seydlitz at Dogger Bank except for the courage of some of her crew. PoW was hit Outside!! the torpedo protection and the hit broke the A bracket of the propeller shaft which opened the ships hull. Anywhere else and she would have shrugged the hit off. And wasn't the much overpraised Bismarck crippled by a single small aerial torpedo? And destroyed as a fighting unit by poor design choices in her armour design? All this on an illegal, oath breaking ship 20% over the limit in the treaty agreed to by German. So much for German honor. And the British have a long history of fighting and winning when out numbered, Trafalgar ring a bell? 2nd Narvik. Many of the actions of the Dover patrol? The list goes on and on and on but I guess if it isn't German propaganda you haven't read it. German ship only fight when the odds are heavily in their favor, otherwise they cower in harbor. Even when the odds are in their favor they lose, Barrents sea ring a bell.
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