Comments by "Edmund Bell-King" (@edmundbell-king4538) on "AFP News Agency"
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@Dan210871 Except it wasn't detrimental. Not subsidising other EU nations and cancelling Freedom of Movement are two benefits. You can't argue that we put more money in than we got back out.Now we can decide where we want to put our money. BTW, so can the Welsh Government. Additionally, with the end of Freedom of Movement, a lot of those jobs taken by EU nationals willing to take much lower wages than Brits will again become available to UK workers - and average salaries will rise - as we are already seeing. That is pure economics. As an example, salaries for HGV drivers are on the rise, as they we artificially pushed down by lower cost EU workers who have exited the country. There are currently around 80,000 HGV qualified UK drivers that left the sector as salaries were pushed down by foreign workers in the past. There will be a period of re-balancing, and that is what we're entering now. However, market forces will push up salaries in sectors with shortages of workers. These businesses have little choice now, as they don't have the lever of importing cheaper labour any more. I call that another Brexit benefit. If you are in any way on the side of the average UK working class, you should not be expecting them to compete with low cost imported workers just to stay in the EU club which works against the interests of our working class. Labour didn't understand that point and sat on the fence at the last election in regards to Brexit. They just couldn't understand why the 'blue wall' in the North massively voted for the Tories. You seem to be similarly confused.
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@debugstore Not subsidising other EU nations and cancelling Freedom of Movement. That is two two benefits. You can't argue that we put more money in than we got back out.Now we can decide where we want to put our money. BTW, so can the Welsh Government. Additionally, with the end of Freedom of Movement, a lot of those jobs taken by EU nationals willing to take much lower wages than Brits will again become available to UK workers - and average salaries will rise - as we are already seeing. That is pure economics. As an example, salaries for HGV drivers are on the rise, as they we artificially pushed down by lower cost EU workers who have exited the country. There are currently around 80,000 HGV qualified UK drivers that left the sector as salaries were pushed down by foreign workers in the past. There will be a period of re-balancing, and that is what we're entering now. However, market forces will push up salaries in sectors with shortages of workers. These businesses have little choice now, as they don't have the lever of importing cheaper labour any more. I call that another Brexit benefit. If you are in any way on the side of the average UK working class, you should not be expecting them to compete with low cost imported workers just to stay in the EU club which works against the interests of our working class. Labour didn't understand that point and sat on the fence at the last election in regards to Brexit. They just couldn't understand why the 'blue wall' in the North massively voted for the Tories. You seem to be similarly confused.
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@Threxis So, by your logic, who do you think worked in our fields and drove our commercial vehicles before low-cost European workers pitched up? Back before Freedom of Movement was a thing, those jobs provided a reasonable living wage and far more security. If you thought about it at all (which obviously you haven't) you'd make the connection between Freedom of Movement, Zero Hour Contracts and lower pay. If you thought about it at all, you'd consider that when a large work-force of low paid EU workers left in a short period of time, because of Brexit, it was inevitable that there would be a short-term hiatus in our supply-chains. However, by your argument, all UK workers should still have to compete with low-cost workers from across Europe, just to satisfy your EU socialist dream which ensures long-term low-wages for British workers. If you thought about it at all, you'd wonder was the EU socialist dream really meant to deliver lower wages, far worse job security and fewer 'in-kind' benefits to UK workers, because that is EXACTLY what did happen. If you really think that our continued membership of the EU was worth all that hardship, then you're just another left-wing Oikophobe who cares nothing for the ordinary people of this country.
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