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Comments by "Thor Jørgensen" (@Thor.Jorgensen) on "VICE News Daily: Deadly Fire at Factory in the Philippines" video.
NokturnalTimes Communism is too extreme left wing, just like feudalism is too extreme right wing. What is need is something to motivate people to work (right) and at the same time keep people satisfied (left). A proper balance between left and right wing politics is what is needed, and it may vary in locations depending on culture, but even then there is a need to deal with corruption and greed in some way, as there will always be those individuals. Regardless, this is not much in a matter of environment as in history, communist countries were part of creating the highest air and sea pollution per capita in history, although it is unrelated to the political ideals.
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telsah1 Problem is when you could make the same as a doctor or a highly educated scientist. You could spend half of your life studying hard to reach the required education, and then do these extremely difficult jobs.. Or you could just start working as soon as you become 16 and start making the same money for low effort.
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telsah1 Not only that. A modern society NEEDS doctors and other highly educated workers to function. It's not like we should go back to the stone age to be able to live peacefully. Humanity would be in much higher distress than it is now.
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NokturnalTimes If you get rid of state, then there is nothing to organize people to get food or other materials. That is called anarchy. Military is not mentioned as being present or not within communism, the topic isn't touched. You're dreaming of something that isn't real. You can't change the personalities of every individual in the world to be a good samaritan and always do what is needed without the notion of jealousy or greed.
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NokturnalTimes What is a man without productivity? How will a man feed himself if he is not producing food for himself or having anyone else to do it, in exchange for other work?
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NokturnalTimes And what will prevent anyone from just going all lazy and all be street sweepers, without any real needed productivity? No matter what you do, you're going to get paid, so why not just do what is easiest? There is no motivation.
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NokturnalTimes But the problem in countries such as the GDR and Soviet Union was that hardly anyone wanted to do the hard jobs for the same pay. it's not that they were crazy, they also knew that they needed it. Trust me, standing in line for two hours for a loaf of bread (like is happening right now in many places, in DPR) does make people realize that something is wrong with their system. it's not like they wanted to stand in line, but it happened, and continued to be like that for decades, until the people have had enough.
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NokturnalTimes You've still not answered my question of who will be distributing food, electricity, medicine and everything else that the people needs to not return to a stone age society. And you've also failed to convince anyone that people would hold their duties of some doing harder work than others, and how it would even take care of greed or crime.
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NokturnalTimes You're complaining a lot, yet coming with no solution or direct answer to any of the problems you mention. And when you do suggest something, you can't answer the followup questions. Are you not wondering if some of those things you mention are not very much related to economy?
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