Comments by "bla ba" (@615bla) on "Hague-based ICC accepts Palestine's status" video.
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John Doe u have asked:
"How many Israeli civilians have died from suicide bombers? "
I don't really understand whey do u ask this question.. u can just use google or wiki to find the sad answer
wiki page: "List of Palestinian suicide attacks"
go and read it yourself.
2.1 1993 (2 bombings)
2.2 1994 (5 bombings)
2.3 1995 (4 bombings)
2.4 1996 (4 bombings)
2.5 1997 (3 bombings)
2.6 1998 (2 bombings)
2.7 1999 (2 bombings)
3.1 2000 (5 bombings)
3.2 2001 (40 bombings)
3.3 2002 (47 bombings)
3.4 2003 (23 bombings)
3.5 2004 (17 bombings)
3.6 2005 (9 bombings)
3.7 2006 (3 bombings)
3.8 2007 (1 bombing)
3.9 2008 (2 bombings)
the sad numbers of dead and injured is listed on the wiki page. almost everyone civilians. only a few attacks were not aimed at civilians.
also... I don't really understand the point in this question.. do u live in a world where the side with the most people dead is the right side?
don't get me wrong.. any innocent death is horrible both arab and Israeli, but this is not how u know who is right and who is wrong, especially not while one side is using its own people as human shields
youtube search "Hamas Spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri: Human-Shield Policy Is Effecive"
or even more chilling: youtube search: "When we die as martyrs - Palestinian Children"
or: "Hamas using Palestinians as human shields: We desire Death as you desire Life"
u see, Israel does everything in its power to avoid civilian casualties on both sides, while hamas does everything in its power to maximize death on both sides in order to manipulate ignorant people like u into outrage, well done, u have been manipulated by a terror organization.
u continue:
"since I'm not in your synagogue "
I am not religious.
also... when u talk about Israeli death or injures u use the term "only"... saying stuff like.
"only 11 Israeli civilians died"
"only 42 Israelis "
as if u were wishing for more to die..
I don't know what u want Israel to do... maybe if it executes some of its own civilians u will be more happy with the numbers?
maybe if more Israelis then arabs will die u will be happy?
maybe if more Israelis then arabs die u will side with Israel?
even one death is horrible and it doesn't matter if it is arab or Israeli, those numbers are horrible and that's the kind of numbers u get when the arab side chooses this bloody path of constant war.
u posted a link, what are u trying to say with it?
yes I agree, war is terrible, but u don't seem to notice it is the arab side who is choosing this path.
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John Doe
u say
u have asked "How many Israeli civilians have died from suicide bombers?"
I did answer u with the wiki page: "List of Palestinian suicide attacks"
and then stated I don't understand why would u ask this question.
to that u answered.
"lot's of people, like YOU, like to pretend that Israeli civilian casualties aren't given enough attention"
when did I say anything like that?
at what point did this issue become relevant to this discussion? u asked this question out of the bloom.
next u have a logical failure
u said "lot's of people, like YOU, like to pretend that Israeli civilian casualties aren't given enough attention"
and to 'prove it' u say "white supremacist state of Israel murders more civilians
there is a lot of wrong in these two sentences but lets start with the logical failure
what does attention has to do with numbers of deaths?
and your next sentence says exactly the opposite of what it is your are trying to prove,
".. human rights organizations document the IDF's ....."
mentioning organization that monitor the idf,
who monitors hamas?
I see almost zero logical flow in these sentences
and to top this all I have already told u..
most Israelis are not 'white'
Israel never target civilians
u continue with "you give me the tired excuse of human shields"
probably referring to these videos I have shown u:
youtube search "Hamas Spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri: Human-Shield Policy Is Effecive"
"When we die as martyrs - Palestinian Children"
"Hamas using Palestinians as human shields: We desire Death as you desire Life"
then u cite Amnesty International as the all knowing god with statement that merely mean we didn't notice hamas using human shields, as if they have the ability to notice those things, as if they know of everything going on in gaza during war times. they don't.
well I can give u proofs, u can use the videos I have shown u above to see the mentality of the gaza people and in these videos as proofs
youtube search: "Hamas Terrorists Fire Rockets from a Gazan School"
"IDF Soldiers Uncover House Rigged with Explosives"
"IDF Soldiers Find Gaza House Rigged with Explosives"
"12 Examples of Hamas Firing Rockets from Civilian Areas "
there is more if u ask for it,
u can see this method in action, when u shoot rockets from schools or from within civilian population u actively use civilians as human shields since they are used to stop retaliation from Israel.
in other cases, Israel is not aware of civilians on the site from witch the fire came from, and civilians are getting killed because hamas was hiding and shooting from among them.
but u choose to trust the all might all knowing Amnesty International,
here is a quote taken from the wiki page: "Criticism of Amnesty International"
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University of Illinois professor of international law Francis Boyle, who spent several years as an Amnesty International USA Board member, claimed that aspects of organisational continuity and survival came ahead of human rights aims. He stated " Amnesty International is primarily motivated not by human rights but by publicity. Second comes money. Third comes getting more members. Fourth, internal turf battles. And then finally, human rights, genuine human rights concerns ."[1]"
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u continue with the claims of idf using human shields, well yes, we cannot ignore these incidents, they did happen by some rouge soldiers, they were trailed and jailed for it.
this is not the idf method of operation, unlike hamas that is using it as a method.
google search: "Captured Hamas Combat Manual Explains Benefits of Human Shields" by idfblog
u continue to use the phrase "not in your synagogue" and I already told u I am not religious.. so I don't see what u are trying to do here..
u have said:
"according to the OCHA-OPT it seems as if though more Palestinian civilians were killed in one year versus Israeli civilians killed in 15—or even more"
more arabs die in this conflict then Israelis, there is no debate here, it is a fact there is no point in proving.
every innocent death is a sad horrible thing, but the arabs having more deaths does not mean they are on the right side of morals.
I have already explained it, Israel is doing everything in its power to avoid civilian deaths on both side, and hamas is doing everything in its power to have as many deaths as possible.
besides I have already asked u.
does the side with the highest number of deaths necessarily on the right?
is that how your morals work?
u have said:
"I'm pointing out that the claims of massive Israeli deaths is sheer fantasy"
I never claimed 'massive Israeli deaths' why do u argue against it? go argue about it with the people who do call it 'massive', I personally live in Israel and don't know anyone who is talking about 'massive Israeli deaths',
there are deaths on both sides, and they are all sad.
"white supremacists want me to only focus on the HAMAS side"
focus on whatever u wish, criticize Israel as much as u want, I have yet to have heard u say a single word of criticism about hamas.
and again... most Israelis are not 'white' nor they are 'supremacists'.
u say
"stop killing civilians" (referring to what u want Israel to do)
Israel never aims at civilians, during wars civilians die, there was never a war in history where it was not true, this is a sad truth in this world, Israeli is doing everything in its power to avoid civilian deaths, phone calls to targeted location, text massages, leaflets, warning shots and cancelations of strikes.
blame hamas for making gaza into a warzone, blame hamas for starting this war in the first place, blame hamas for refusing/breaking more then 11 cease fires, blame them for hiding men arsenal and launch pads within civilian population.
"Also, I'd like Israel to accept the internationally backed 2-state settlement "
Israel does accept the two state solution, but not at the cost of its civilians safety, Israel will leave the west bank when it has a guarantee it will not become a second gaza like fortress of terror.
u then mention yet again the resolution called "Peaceful Settlement of the Question of Palestine" and mention Israel is voting against it, and even give reference..
well my friend, there is no need for this reference, this issue is not disputed, it is a fact
Israel does reject the motion called " "Peaceful Settlement of the Question of Palestine" and I already explained why in a different conversation we have, so I will just quote myself:
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the fact that a resolution is called 'peaceful' or is titled as such does not mean it is really peaceful.
that particular resolution is calling for the formation of an arab state and Israel leaving the west bank.
if Israel leaves the west bank today hamas will take over the west bank and fire rockets and missiles at Israeli cities from the west bank, hiding its fighters and arsenal inside civilian population and creating a second gaza like fortress of terror, facing this, Israel will be obligated to respond and that will lead to even worse wars and conflicts.
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I don't understand why u bother going through this all over again.. I have already answered this issue and u have yet to posted a response to my response...
also, for some reason, u have chosen to copy paste your comments on other videos, this is just stupid, we will just copy paste our responses...
it is as if u are not really here for a conversation but in some way deluded to think the entire world is reading these walls of text, so u use those cheap tricks thinking anyone will fall for it when in actuality no one's probably reads all this, that only makes me copy paste my previous responses to u.
this is amusing really,
now I will go copy paste this comment since u decided to post yours several times, and u will do the same later.
pointless but amusing.
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John Doe this is kinda stupide.. I have alrady answered the issue u have just raised, all u did is copy paste..
well I will do the same and just copy past the answer I have already given u
u have said:
"....amnesty Internationals...... found no evidence that Hamas or other Palestinian fighters directed the movement of civilians to shield military objectives... "
youtube search: "Hamas Terrorists Fire Rockets from a Gazan School"
"IDF Soldiers Uncover House Rigged with Explosives"
"IDF Soldiers Find Gaza House Rigged with Explosives"
"12 Examples of Hamas Firing Rockets from Civilian Areas "
there is more if u ask for it,
u can see this method in action, when u shoot rockets from schools or from within civilian population u actively use civilians as human shields since they are used to stop retaliation from Israel.
in other cases, Israel is not aware of civilians on the site from witch the fire came from, and civilians are getting killed because hamas was hiding and shooting from among them.
but u choose to trust the all might all knowing Amnesty International,
here is a quote taken from the wiki page: "Criticism of Amnesty International"
"
University of Illinois professor of international law Francis Boyle, who spent several years as an Amnesty International USA Board member, claimed that aspects of organisational continuity and survival came ahead of human rights aims. He stated " Amnesty International is primarily motivated not by human rights but by publicity. Second comes money. Third comes getting more members. Fourth, internal turf battles. And then finally, human rights, genuine human rights concerns ."[1]"
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***** John Doe Jun Hyung Lee lol u clowns are great.
***** u have said: "You still got nothing on your prime minister turning Hitler mode, eh? "
I asked u for quotes, date and location, where is it? why cant u admit u distribute a lie?
John Doe: I have answered everything u have said, u have yet to respond to any of it, I am still waiting.
I never just say google it, to idiots like u I tell exactly what to google, I always give the exact phrases that will get u to the exact webpage I want u to find.
it is safer then posting links since sometimes al Jazeera blocks comments with links.
Jun Hyung Lee no, I don't feel safe since the guy I came to live next door never stops screaming he wants to slaughter me and my family, I didn't stole anything from anyone, all the wars were started by my next door, I do everything possible to keep his family out of the line of fire, and he in the best case scenario doesn't care about his own family and in the worst case, uses them as human shields.
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Jun Hyung Lee *****
***** there is a huge difference between national rights and civil rights, national rights mean, flag anthem army the right of jews to live in Israel, it does not mean anything against the civil rights of minorities, in Israel everyone are equal under the law.
besides... the law you are talking about, did not pass
Jun Hyung Lee Israel did not steal anyone home, from the start of this conflict to this day, all we ask is to live peacefully side by side with the arabs, they refuse and go to wars, they lose them, and then cry about it.
imagine rockets flying on California from Canada after a failed invasion
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